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namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
October 16 2011 21:31 GMT
#41
No it hasn't, never felt there was any imbalance going on anyway. Just good and bad play.
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
Dbla08
Profile Joined March 2011
United States211 Posts
October 16 2011 21:31 GMT
#42
Figuring out what people think that vote No will be very hard because..

-No and im not a whiner
-No and im still a whiner

I think its balanced and have thought so before


interesting thought, and if you (albeit arbitrarily and without any real backing other than that it seems to work) figure that to be a roughly 50-50 split between those that answered No, there'd be a nearly even spread between the 4 answers
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10700 Posts
October 16 2011 21:38 GMT
#43
Yea I think once Terran gets removed from StarCraft the game will be perfectly balanced. lol jk ^_^ I think the balance is pretty good right now but there is a reason we see majority Terrans in GSL... and is not because "all the good players play Terran". :-P
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
October 16 2011 21:50 GMT
#44
My previous opinion was that the game was pretty balanced.

This tournament confirmed that more than changed it.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
gentile
Profile Joined August 2007
Switzerland594 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 21:52:30
October 16 2011 21:50 GMT
#45
No it hasnt changed my view. I still QQ after every loss, no matter the race, the opponent and so on../s
Fus
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1112 Posts
October 16 2011 22:04 GMT
#46
I think the game is fine, just make pvp a bit more dynamic and it's good game =D
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WebsblobTwo
Profile Joined August 2011
13 Posts
October 16 2011 22:04 GMT
#47
Terran is still better than the other races IMO.
dashmode
Profile Joined August 2011
60 Posts
October 16 2011 22:10 GMT
#48
Does anyone also think that these maps used lately in tournaments are super imbalanced in zerg favor? Some of them would work with close spawns from my point of view, but with cross spawns it is so unbelievable hard for terran or protoss army to keep up with speed of the zerg that it is almost unwinnable for them. They have to defend all the time and at the same time they can't keep up with macro of zerg. The only thing that could help terran in these situations is medivac-drop play so I would like to see how MMA would handle it, but if even he would fail to it then I don't know what to say.

Also, I cannot believe how maps are underrated in balance discussions and maps are imo main reason why zerg is doing so well lately.
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
October 16 2011 22:20 GMT
#49
No protoss is still too weak
"The White Woman Speaks in Tongues That Are All Lies" - Incontrol; Member #37 of the Chill Fanclub
Tsuki.eu
Profile Joined May 2011
Portugal1049 Posts
October 16 2011 22:23 GMT
#50
2 more expansions people.
Marksofshame
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada41 Posts
October 16 2011 22:27 GMT
#51
One tournament with 2 toss in top 6 isn't going to change my mind. Once code s has somewhat near equal race distribution, my mind will be changed.
Oreo7
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1647 Posts
October 16 2011 22:30 GMT
#52
The Sase puma series hurt my feelings.
Stork HerO and Protoss everywhere - redfive on bnet
FlamingTurd
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1059 Posts
October 16 2011 22:30 GMT
#53
I saw a 2 trends while viewing the TP vs Z games at MLG which I found very disheartening. 1) Bunker rushing seemed to be far too easy and successful. 2) blink stalker games almost always ended in victory for the P.

Whenever I saw either of those 2 strategies used while watching the couple hundred games over the weekend they ended in a victory against the Zerg player like 80% of the time. The few times that I saw the Z defend it they were typically too behind to make a serious comeback. The times I saw the Z win it happened when the T or P clearly made a mistake.
Nerf MMMT!!! Liquid`Ret Hwaiting!!!
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 16:47:32
October 16 2011 22:33 GMT
#54
On October 17 2011 07:30 Oreo7 wrote:
The Sase puma series hurt my feelings.


This. As long as that kind of thing happens all the time (thank you for that Puma), Protoss will remain weak to my eyes.

Although, if all races decide to play macro fair and square, I think it's pretty balanced. Early game protoss is just too fragile. And one base terran too strong.
LHR
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada81 Posts
October 16 2011 22:37 GMT
#55
protoss still up
NexCa
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany954 Posts
October 16 2011 22:42 GMT
#56
not really, PvZ is still freakn hard, and Terran is still OP
Best Protoss Player 4 ever - Bisu[Shield] || http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=326242 || THIS IS WHERE WE STAND, THIS IS WHERE THEY FALL, GIVE THEM NOTHING, BUT TAKE FROM THEM EVERYTHING ! || SKT FIGHTIIING
sjschmidt93
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2518 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-16 23:11:01
October 16 2011 23:10 GMT
#57
nope... foreigner zergs are just really good
My grandpa could've proxied better, and not only does he have arthritis, he's also dead. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
Raambo11
Profile Joined April 2011
United States828 Posts
October 16 2011 23:12 GMT
#58
On October 17 2011 05:35 green.at wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2011 05:06 mrRoflpwn wrote:
protoss is still weak


protoss is fine, protoss player on the other hand .....


Protoss players learn't how to deal with terran, 1-1-1 was never op, nothing Terran players has is, people slowly learn to adapt every time there is QQ and its happening again.
XRaDiiX
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1730 Posts
October 16 2011 23:13 GMT
#59
Hrmm i feel Protoss has a bit of advantage in PvZ.

TvP Protoss a little bit underpowered if Terran Micros well. (But Recent Tournament Results)(Fast double Forged Builds) Changed my mind a bit... i'm starting to think its more balanced.

Then we have TvZ.. I think TvZ is definitely the most Balanced Match-up by Far.

Never GG MKP | IdrA
ChewbroCColi
Profile Joined July 2009
Denmark108 Posts
October 16 2011 23:14 GMT
#60
No game is fine. And besides.. We still got two expansions to go so no whining please.
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