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Da Dopeman
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4 Posts
October 17 2011 23:25 GMT
#221
Nope. Scans and marines.

Nuff said
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 17 2011 23:46 GMT
#222
PvT is somewhat imbalanced I THINK.
The rest of the match-ups are fine with these maps.

I had a good night of sleep.
souLess419
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada11 Posts
October 17 2011 23:52 GMT
#223
I still think terran are a little too powerful right now, specifically the marine, the ghost and the mule. They also seem to have the most all in strats available to them, and all of these cheesy builds seem to be very strong.

Oh, the lack of Protoss in Code S right now is disgusting. 1-1-1 much?

Other than that, game seems okay.
Belial154
Profile Joined December 2010
United States48 Posts
October 18 2011 00:06 GMT
#224
I think that the game is actually ridiculously balanced for the amount of variety provided. Blizzard deserves so much credit for their work on SC2 and the balancing. Just wish I were better....can you buff me Blizzard?
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RetoX
Profile Joined October 2010
Hong Kong252 Posts
October 18 2011 00:14 GMT
#225
protoss needs to change their gamestyle, metaprotoss suxx atm, needs to be reviewed ^^
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HEROwithNOlegacy
Profile Joined June 2010
United States850 Posts
October 18 2011 00:58 GMT
#226
I don't know what to choose, I always thought the game was balanced since 1.04 and am glad to see more innovation in play. I think its decent how it is now
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aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
October 18 2011 01:16 GMT
#227
Nope, Protoss is still the most powerful.
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
October 18 2011 01:26 GMT
#228
Bio vs Protoss is the only thing I find imbalanced in Terrans favor. But only at the highest level of play where people actually have the multitasking skill to abuse drops and make perfect EMPs.

Protoss players should be more positive. Your race may suck against Bio, but its really strong against Mech. So were even kk?
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Kitaen
Profile Joined June 2011
Austria466 Posts
October 18 2011 01:53 GMT
#229
no other race can rip through bio as protoss lategame can

def in favor of protoss regarding the late game - but thank god this game is not all about 200/200

The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
October 18 2011 01:57 GMT
#230
On October 18 2011 07:14 highsis wrote:
No, Protoss is still significantly weaker than Terran. 1/1/1 is defensible now, but EMP still needs a fix.

Terran > Zerg > Protoss

What needs to be done:

1) EMP range nerf from 10 to 9 (for PvT)

2) Restore Khaydarin Amulet with research cost 300/300 (for PvT)

3) Nerf Terran reactor's production speed to 90% of the original. Build time buff from 50 - > 40 (for TvZ)


Khaydarin Amulet only makes sense as an upgrade if High Templar can no longer be warped in. They already have the most damaging spell and they build in 5 seconds anywhere on the map. They get enough energy about the same time that Ghosts or Infestors get enough energy with the upgrades, so really there's no need for it. People who complain about Khaydarin Amulet are just unwilling to admit that it is completely unfair. Won Protoss players a lot of games that they would have lost were they unable to storm anywhere on the map at 5 seconds notice.
itkovian
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1763 Posts
October 18 2011 02:39 GMT
#231
I feel like zerg are catching if not surpassing terran. I'm still a little worried about protoss but we'll see how things turn out in the next couple months. I'm hoping some new protoss talent rises to code S.
=)=
Kazbot
Profile Joined September 2011
United States4 Posts
October 18 2011 02:41 GMT
#232
I'm rock, scissors is fine, nerf paper.
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rS.eZrA
Profile Joined April 2011
United States39 Posts
October 18 2011 02:45 GMT
#233
I think Protoss need buffs, Zerg needs more stable units, Terran needs marine nerf.
"Where I Walk, You Will Die"
Netsky
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1155 Posts
October 18 2011 03:00 GMT
#234
Hasn't changed my opinion - Protoss is still overpowered.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
October 18 2011 03:07 GMT
#235
No. Ghosts are still messed up, but beyond that the game is ok.
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gurrpp
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States437 Posts
October 18 2011 03:52 GMT
#236
Thought it was balanced before, still think its pretty balanced.
hot fuh days
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 03:53:50
October 18 2011 03:53 GMT
#237
On October 17 2011 04:17 ae wrote:
Figuring out what people think that vote No will be very hard because..

-No and im not a whiner
-No and im still a whiner

I think its balanced and have thought so before


Yea that's the problem with the poll. I guess maybe if you were thinking+ Show Spoiler [race of mlg winner] +
protoss
was tremendously under powered then maybe this poll would change your mind?
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
October 18 2011 04:01 GMT
#238
On October 18 2011 10:26 GinDo wrote:
Protoss players should be more positive. Your race may suck against Bio, but its really strong against Mech. So were even kk?


Then there needs to be more fucking Mech v P
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Camail
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1030 Posts
October 18 2011 04:11 GMT
#239
This question means nothing. A person who was convinced that balance is not an issue can not be differentiated from the one who now thinks protoss is imba again.
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windsupernova
Profile Joined October 2010
Mexico5280 Posts
October 18 2011 04:27 GMT
#240
Hahaha , pretty ambiguous question.

Voted no, but its not like it means anything I could be voting:

-No, P was always OP and is now OP.
-No game is fine
-No P is UP and will always be UP
etc...

Personally I think the game is reasonably balanced, and metagames shifts do happen. But people are always impatient as fuck and they want their race getting back into shape NOW.
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