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MLG Raleigh hardest pool? - Page 2

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Cosmos
Profile Joined March 2010
Belgium1077 Posts
August 23 2011 19:39 GMT
#21
I voted group C because there is no CERTAIN 0-4, group A looks to be the hardest but there is a very obvious 0-4 in it.
http://www.twitch.tv/becosmos
MichaelDonovan
Profile Joined June 2011
United States1453 Posts
August 23 2011 20:14 GMT
#22
Haha incontrol got stuck in another group of death.
duk3
Profile Joined September 2010
United States807 Posts
August 23 2011 20:30 GMT
#23
A, easily.
Coca/Rain/Nani/Huk is just a terrible group to be in, everyone is skilled, and then add a player who had to make it through the open bracket, so probably another korean.
Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.
Cevari
Profile Joined February 2011
Finland74 Posts
August 23 2011 20:35 GMT
#24
I voted A, but very surprised to see C right at the bottom. My ranking would be A > C > B = D, definitely think DRG and Tester are the toughest #1 and #2 in all the groups, but the depth of A pushes it over with huk, rain and coca being three proven code S level players and nani not far behind.

Select is a bit hard to call since lately he seems a bit swingy, but if he's playing to his top level he's just as good as idra / ret / sheth / sjow. And the way I see it is that there is a number of players of clearly lower caliber in the pools spread out quite evenly, with only inc in group A but two in all the others (Moonan, Kiwi, Machine, Haypro, TLO and Slush), so if we assume these players only beat each other barring big upsets the top 3 of the non-A groups pretty much decides their order. That's why I put C over B and D.
Yamulo
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2096 Posts
August 23 2011 21:05 GMT
#25
On August 24 2011 02:07 Hellwitch wrote:
I voted for Group A
2 Koreans + 3 of the best non-korean Protoss = group of Death
Edit : grammar ¬¬

You mean 4 people with korean practice, and one good foreigner?
~~~Liquid Fighting (SC2)~~~
ZidaneTribal
Profile Joined September 2007
United States2800 Posts
August 23 2011 21:17 GMT
#26
i think group C is the hardest because it has 3 very solid players with 2 very unpredictable players
fuck lag
StarDustNA
Profile Joined June 2011
61 Posts
August 23 2011 21:27 GMT
#27
How is group C last? o.0
phyK
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany73 Posts
August 23 2011 21:48 GMT
#28
C and A imo
SxYSpAz
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1451 Posts
August 23 2011 21:51 GMT
#29
how is pool c so far down there? that is one beastly ass group. i don't think group A is THE death group. got strong players, but i'd say mostly c, and d are stacked. you guys be undermining players >_<
darklordjac
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2231 Posts
August 23 2011 22:04 GMT
#30
Group A, HuK and Naniwa are hard enough alone without the other three players
Murkinlol
Profile Joined August 2010
United States366 Posts
August 23 2011 22:14 GMT
#31
Easily A, 2 koreans, one being terran, and the two best foreigners
Ratchets, designer jackets
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
August 23 2011 22:25 GMT
#32
Group B:
(Z)IdrA: The Gracken himself, a guy who if he doesn't lose focus, can beat anyone with his super solid macro.
(T)Bomber: Considered one of the best Terrans in the world, and certainly one of the best players traveling to Raleigh, he's definitely a favorite to win this whole tournament.
(T)SjoW: The Blind Terran who won IEM Europe against some of the scariest players ((P)Manner Toss himself).
(Z)Machine IdrA's teammate, and a great Zerg. Though he doesn't have the best record at MLG's, he could definitely win.

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And then, the favorite to win the group and the entire tournament. Feared by players around the world, as the most godly Zerg in the world. World renowned, and while EG would have preferred to pick him up, they had to settle with his teammate HuK as no amount of money can purchase a god,
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The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 22:38:13
August 23 2011 22:33 GMT
#33
On August 24 2011 06:51 SxYSpAz wrote:
how is pool c so far down there? that is one beastly ass group. i don't think group A is THE death group. got strong players, but i'd say mostly c, and d are stacked. you guys be undermining players >_<

DRG will win that group. TLO and SeleCT haven't won a total of 3 sets in the last two MLG's during Group Stages. It's not undermining players if they perform horribly. Plus, out of CoCa, NaDa, Bomber, and TesteR, I think that TesteR may be the weakest Korean Invite. NaDa and Bomber both are fantastic players who I would definitely say are stronger then TesteR, and CoCa recently got traded to SlayerS so he has plenty of practice partners to make his lacking match-ups better (ZvT and ZvZ). CoCa has some of the best ZvP in the world, so I wouldn't be surprised to see him beat HuK and NaNiwa. TesteR is a great player, but he isn't as scary as other Koreans at the event. Then the last person is Slush, who's great, but isn't scary. I mean some of his games were really interesting to watch (I don't play Zerg, but I really liked his double Roach Warrens for both claws and speed really fast), but Pool C is far from the scariest.

Groups in order from easiest to hardest:
C: Slush, Select, TLO, DRG, Tester
D:Kiwi, Ret, Sheth, Moonan, Nada
A:Nani, Huk, Inc, Rain, Coca
B: Idra, Sjow, Haypro, Machine, Bomber
HAYPRO BONJWA FIGHTING :D
hejakev
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden518 Posts
August 23 2011 22:42 GMT
#34
I wanted to say DRG, but Korean terrans are gonna be there...
ThatGuy89
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom1968 Posts
August 23 2011 23:08 GMT
#35
i cant see how anyone can vote group B: Sjow machine and haypro have absolutely nothing on idra and bomber. It'd be a massive upset if idra and bomber didnt advance

HAS to be group A - 2 of the best toss players in the world, rain who fucking destroyed at last MLG. Coca who is the second best zerg attending after DRG (yea even better then idra unfortunately) and then inc - obviously the underdog but PvP is fucked so he could easily take out HuK and nani. Im going with inc (dick) rain (head) HuK (heart) lol
HoldenR
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands256 Posts
August 23 2011 23:22 GMT
#36
Despite not having any warm feelings left for incontrol, I do feel bad for him for ending up in the group that he did. Goddamn, that is without a doubt the 'group of death'.
Zeevo
Profile Joined June 2011
148 Posts
August 23 2011 23:42 GMT
#37
Bomber is going to win the whole thing so I guess B
Huggerz
Profile Joined May 2011
Great Britain919 Posts
August 24 2011 00:13 GMT
#38
C is the most interesting group to me. I don't think any group is more deadly than others
“It's like poker. You can play your best, but you've got to know when to fold your cards and take a rest, and know when to hold your cards, hold your breath and hope that nobody else is stacking the deck."
harhar!
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany190 Posts
August 24 2011 00:35 GMT
#39
WHY IS MACHINE STILL IN MLG?

apart from him group b for bomber, idra and sjow...
radim
Profile Joined October 2009
Czech Republic122 Posts
August 24 2011 00:38 GMT
#40
A! Two great koreans, two great foreigners and incontrol who can certainly make a splash if he comes to Raleigh in top form..
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