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Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
August 25 2011 03:22 GMT
#101
Definitely A, 2 Koreans and 2 of the best non-Koreans in the world. Incontrol is in for a rough time.
RileyCyrus
Profile Joined November 2010
United States14 Posts
August 25 2011 03:26 GMT
#102
DongRaeGu autovote
We make expand, then defense it. --White ra
Flonkkertiin
Profile Joined April 2011
United States24 Posts
August 25 2011 04:08 GMT
#103
Group A, although D is tough too. CoCa will probably take his group because his ZvP is just so good. even if he were to drop one to Huk he would still have enough to take the group i think. Rain and Naniwa are good too but Huk [GSL spoiler] looked extremely good versus Nada yesterday.[/spoiler] Then theres Incontrol...
"That Queen shouldn't be that far off creep. She should be back at the hatchery, barefoot and pregnant."
BradenKuntz
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada59 Posts
August 25 2011 04:17 GMT
#104
Waaa?? NaDa is coming to MLG? This is gonna be awesome!!!!
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45182 Posts
August 25 2011 04:54 GMT
#105
A... not even up for debate o.O
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
August 25 2011 05:32 GMT
#106
On August 24 2011 16:16 userstupidname wrote:
Voted A like many but it was a mistake..

after looking I noticed group C which is BEASTLY
, DRG - TLO (Coming strongly(!) back after carpal syndrome) TESTER, SLUSH, AND SELECT WHO FINALLY have some momentum to show of his full potential, This group is by FAAR the hardest group where everyone is determined to win



Idra just going to dominate his group :I

I don't know if you've ever heard of this guy named Bomber, but I think he might stand a chance against IdrA. I mean, he's only considered to be one of the best Korean Terrans in the world...

I doubt Machine or HayprO will stand much a chance against IdrA, and SjoW probably won't beat him either, but Bomber will most likely clean up that group. His play is so solid that I don't see any of those players beating him; plus he doesn't do idiotic things like IdrA. Every IdrA fanboy out there ready to flame me, listen up: he's great, he's super solid, and when he gets angry none of it matters. IdrA is a fantastic player, and if you gave him the mentality and determination of a Korean pro-gamer (basically if he kept his head up and kept fighting) he would dominate for sure. He just makes stupid decisions like going for the same stupid all-in against MC over and over or leaving a game early such as he did against HuK or MMA.

Regarding Group C, I can tell you that I doubt TLO or SeleCT will do well. If they prove me wrong and put up incredible games, then I'll be just as happy as anyone else, but their record in Group play at the last two MLGs seems to support me when I predict that neither will do well in their groups. Honestly, with two players who have managed to go 1-4 or 0-5 two MLGs in a row in a single group, it's hard to look at a group and say "Wow, that's a really scary group of death." Granted having both (P)TesteR AND (Z)DRG in a single group is kind of scary, and it makes me really look forward to their match. But honestly, I am willing to bet that DRG and TesteR will take first and second in that group. It's sort of the same with Group B where despite having some good talent, Bomber and IdrA will almost certainly take first and second.

Group A and Group D both seem to have a lot more spread but still ridiculously talented players. Group A is near impossibly to predict since there's SOOOOO much talent and ability. Think of Group A like this: fourth or fifth place (or maybe both if iNcontrol do well!) will be HuK, NaNiwa, Rain, or CoCa. That is crazy scary. Same with D, where Sheth, NaDa, or Ret all could very well win their group. That's what really makes a group of death.

On August 25 2011 00:50 GleaM wrote:
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On August 24 2011 02:07 sixfour wrote:
Voted B only on account of sorting by Protoss and picking whichever had the least



Lol this is hilarious! But kinda sad and true...

Koreans think 1-1-1 is too strong... and ZvP 3-4 hatch before gas is too strong... What does toss have at the highest level like this?

I agree, that certainly would explain:
  1. MLG Dallas 2011 1st. (P)NaNiwa 2nd. (P)KiWiKaKi
  2. DreamHack Invitational 1st. (P)MC 2nd. (P)White-Ra
  3. StarsWar Killer 6 1st. (P)MC 2nd. (P)Lovecd (Please note that in that tournament the final four were all Protoss and outside of PvP those four players lost a total of four games throughout the tournament)
  4. HomeStory Cup III 1st. (P)HuK 2nd. (P)NaNiwa
  5. Plus plenty of other touranments won by Protoss players such as DreamHack Summer 2011 ((P)HuK), IPL Season 2 ((P)White-Ra), or MC's two GSL victories...

Honestly, outside of Korea, Protoss do well in every tournament (and even in Korea, last Code A was PvP finals and MC continues to dominate except when he gets cocky). And if your proof was the last MLG, the reason was that most of the Koreans there were Terran or Zerg. The two top placing non-Koreans were both Protoss ((P)HuK and (P)NaNiwa) and the only two Korean Protoss were (P)Alicia and (P)Choya who both had to play through the Open Bracket. Now, why didn't they do better? Well Alicia lost to (P)ToD twice and Choya lost to (P)Tyler and (P)iNcontroL. Please take note that all three of those players play Protoss, so you can't really cry imbalance.

Really, I don't understand how suddenly Protoss is the weakest race in the game and if you try to say anything else you're an idiot who knows nothing about the game. Look at all that Green for Protoss above this. That's all Protoss players winning and succeeding despite the "imbalance" of the ENTIRE race. All those players are great, but frankly, I don't think a single one of them is SO mechanically talented or having such incredible game sense that despite playing through severe imbalances they still win tournaments. The game is not imbalanced. Stop complaining and saying stupid things like "Protoss will never win" because frankly outside of Korea, Protoss seem to consistently place if not win entire tournaments (I think that the reason why there's such a heavy Terran win percentage in the GSL is just simply due to the fact that there are more Terrans than there are any other race).
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
August 25 2011 06:06 GMT
#107
Voted A, but in my mind Geoff has a strong chance to have a good run through that group
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SIS7G
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden43 Posts
August 25 2011 08:47 GMT
#108
A - and HuK is in it as usual
Nestea - What a beast.
Dakota69
Profile Joined March 2011
United States51 Posts
August 25 2011 11:58 GMT
#109
incontrol is gonna have another bad mlg...shame
"My nipples are hard, I'm ready..I know your nipples are hard"--EGiNcontrol
nrv
Profile Joined April 2011
United States113 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-21 09:34:44
August 25 2011 12:09 GMT
#110
I voted B.
yes
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
August 25 2011 12:10 GMT
#111
I voted A because it has 3 strong players, while most groups have 2. I'm surprised C is last, if the right Select turns up he's the strongest '3rd best' player in a group.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-25 14:21:48
August 25 2011 14:21 GMT
#112
Group A is pretty sick. 4 strong players and iNcontrol, who is going to prove himself this MLG.
I had a good night of sleep.
clownzim
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Brazil267 Posts
August 25 2011 14:47 GMT
#113
D foe shoe
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
VoirDire
Profile Joined February 2009
Sweden1923 Posts
August 25 2011 18:40 GMT
#114
Group A for sure. It will also have the top seed from the open bracket. It's going to be super stacked.
Kpyolysis32
Profile Joined April 2010
553 Posts
August 25 2011 19:18 GMT
#115
C all the way. DRG and Select are both insane
Man, do I not keep this up to date, or what?
onedayclose
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1145 Posts
August 25 2011 20:27 GMT
#116
This poll results makes absolutely no sense. Obviously the group with two koreans will be the most difficult!
Shodanss
Profile Joined November 2010
Greece245 Posts
August 25 2011 21:40 GMT
#117
InControl man... if you want really to shine and show your training... this really is the time!
Google important phrases....ctrl+c,ctrl+v!!!
refmac_cys.cys
Profile Joined June 2010
United States177 Posts
August 25 2011 22:00 GMT
#118
Group D. Although there aren't really any groups that aren't deathlike. TLO is, I think, will only be playing better as time progresses. Select is really good, but often under-preforms at MLGs. Slush generally does well, and has really messy timings that mess with people. DRG and Tester, I think, speak for themselves.
my helicopter example is less stupid than your helicopter example - Liquid'Drone
sporei
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia24 Posts
August 25 2011 23:35 GMT
#119
Group D for sure, Nada man, he's going to win it, why is no one mentioning him, he's always crazy consistently great. Also Ret, I don't care which Korean he goes up against, he's way up there with the top of the Korean's right now.
shinal
akalarry
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1978 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-26 00:45:26
August 26 2011 00:45 GMT
#120
group A for sure...

i cant believe SO many of these guys STILL get seeded...

mlg fix your shit wow... this is just getting pathetic.
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