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On July 29 2011 13:45 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2011 11:40 GGQ wrote:On July 28 2011 22:58 TwoToneTerran wrote:On July 28 2011 22:12 Mortality wrote:On July 28 2011 20:53 oldgregg wrote:On July 28 2011 01:09 Mortality wrote:
Even with a tie-breaker possibility, JD can at best be #4 on the PR, and that's assuming Hydra decides to suck. No way do I see JD being ahead of Zero or Bisu right now, let alone Flash. why should bisu be in the top 3? he's not in the OSL and has only played 3 games so far this month Why shouldn't he be top 3? What does the number of games he's played so far have to do with anything? Matters a lot. It's kind of an ongoing punishment that he won't get ranked as high as people in both the OSL and MSL because they play OSL games over him, and some dudes like flash sweep their OSL group. For instance, you could be one of the best players around it doesn't matter if you don't play a game for 6 months! (effort :D) If you punish Bisu for not playing much this month, you are punishing him for helping his team get first place in PL and seeded into the final. If SKT had to fight its way through the PL playoffs, we would have seen more games from Bisu for sure, and judging from his recent PL performances he probably would have done quite well. You can punish Bisu for not having OSL games to play, but you have to give him credit for not having to play any PL games. He's won what he had to win this month. I specifically pointed out how it's because he's not in OSL. He's gonna be top 5 because he dominated proleague and made it past MST. He'd have a shot at #1 if he was in OSL.
Personally if SKT wins the Grand Finals, and Bisu beat Flash at least once there (again IF).. I will nominate Bisu as number 1.
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Once again, can we remember that PR does not start over as a blank slate every month? There is absolutely NO POINT to doing a PR if all you want is to look at win/loss results for the past month since all you need to do is open up TLPD to find out.
Fantasy might have done more (so far) this month, but Fantasy is also starting from much farther behind. Fantasy has to PROVE that his slump is behind him. Bisu is not in a slump and has not been in a slump for a long time now. Bisu is SKT's star going into this playoff match with KT, not Fantasy, because Bisu has done more to prove his strength for months. Plural.
It's nice to recognize players that are on the way up, but there's no reason to be putting these people ahead of Bisu unless Bisu drops games in the grand final.
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
I'm so confused right now. I have no clue what's going on in the ESPORTS world of Brood War [though the sidebar tells me stuff isn't going so hot?] and China scares me.
Also Jaedong :[
But Harem are you happy?
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On July 29 2011 19:12 flamewheel wrote:
I'm so confused right now. I have no clue what's going on in the ESPORTS world of Brood War [though the sidebar tells me stuff isn't going so hot?] and China scares me.
Also Jaedong :[
But Harem are you happy?
MSL might be in its last season, depending on how things go within the company. Flash is raping everyone. Zero is super hot lately. JD is out. That's about all you need to know.
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It's 29th already , has anybody had any idea about what next month's PR will look like? 
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Waiting for PL Finals and, by proxy, a few MST/OSL games.
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Yeah but PL finals is like, next month =/
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everything is so hyuked up
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We will have to wait well into August. It will be probably published after proleague finals.
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On July 29 2011 22:57 mnesthes wrote:
Yeah but PL finals is like, next month =/
Posting things like that will not get Flamewheel back from China any faster. Please refrain from being a nuisance.
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Pitcairn19291 Posts
Yellow sucks.
Boxer #1 once he bunker rushes Yellow in SC2 as well.
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I think the next PR should be posted now, not next week, BEFORE all that games, because otherweise there will be some disadvantages for some players that didn't play many games this month but still deserve PR spot.
Example: after those games Bisu should be lowered and Fantasy and Movie got out of PR since they haven't played much. Also Snow made some brilliant vZ games but lost, so it's tricky...
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There's an argument either way. I'd put one out now if you also wanted to do a PR in august. Otherwise, wait for PL finals and make it July/August combo PR.
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If this was pokemon.... Flamewheel is paralyzed??? Time to sub in Mortality!!! gogogogo
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On July 30 2011 06:47 Phradamon wrote:
I think the next PR should be posted now, not next week, BEFORE all that games, because otherweise there will be some disadvantages for some players that didn't play many games this month but still deserve PR spot.
Example: after those games Bisu should be lowered and Fantasy and Movie got out of PR since they haven't played much. Also Snow made some brilliant vZ games but lost, so it's tricky...
If you want Flamewheel to write a Power Rank when HE HAS NOT SEEN ANY GAME because he is staying in a foreign country then you are out of your mind.
And your example does not make sense.
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On July 30 2011 13:00 ShadeR wrote:
If this was pokemon.... Flamewheel is paralyzed??? Time to sub in Mortality!!! gogogogo
I'm honored but I haven't seen that many games this month either. My ranking would be based largely on past data, comparing it to this past month's data, and then doing some interpolation. Well, at least #1 should be the same on every sane person's list...
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Yes, i do want an august PR, after all it's a monthly status...
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On July 31 2011 08:30 Phradamon wrote:
Yes, i do want an august PR, after all it's a monthly status...
Dear god, you want the players to be ranked even if the person ranking them HAS NOT WATCHED ANY STARCRAFT AT ALL? Do you even realize what you are saying or did you not understand the 4 or 5 previous times it has been mentioned in this thread? If all you want is raw numbers, go fucking open TLPD and take a look yourself.
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On July 31 2011 08:30 Phradamon wrote:
Yes, i do want an august PR, after all it's a monthly status...
It has never been strictly monthly...
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On July 31 2011 10:16 Mortality wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 08:30 Phradamon wrote:
Yes, i do want an august PR, after all it's a monthly status... Dear god, you want the players to be ranked even if the person ranking them HAS NOT WATCHED ANY STARCRAFT AT ALL? Do you even realize what you are saying or did you not understand the 4 or 5 previous times it has been mentioned in this thread? If all you want is raw numbers, go fucking open TLPD and take a look yourself.
To be fair, this sounds like the problem of the PR maker and it's not unfair for people to want a consistently dated PR writeup. Whenever the incumbent PR writer can't do it for a month they usually just hand it over for that month then come back, ala Manifesto.
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On July 31 2011 12:06 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On July 31 2011 10:16 Mortality wrote:On July 31 2011 08:30 Phradamon wrote:
Yes, i do want an august PR, after all it's a monthly status... Dear god, you want the players to be ranked even if the person ranking them HAS NOT WATCHED ANY STARCRAFT AT ALL? Do you even realize what you are saying or did you not understand the 4 or 5 previous times it has been mentioned in this thread? If all you want is raw numbers, go fucking open TLPD and take a look yourself. To be fair, this sounds like the problem of the PR maker and it's not unfair for people to want a consistently dated PR writeup. Whenever the incumbent PR writer can't do it for a month they usually just hand it over for that month then come back, ala Manifesto.
I dont know, i was under the impression that the PR never had a "monthly deadline" of any sort. It usually is on the whim of the writer that we get the PR at XYZ time. "PR must be up by the first of August" to me is just a misinformed selfish want from people, they arent promised that.
So whats wrong with waiting for some important result this month, especially if that coincides with some busy schedule on the writer's part?
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