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DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4353 Posts
June 20 2011 12:57 GMT
#361
On June 20 2011 21:51 Dakkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 20 2011 21:40 DropBear wrote:
For your consideration, Power Rank for the month of June!
+ Show Spoiler +

1. [image loading] (P)Horang2

2. [image loading] (P)Movie

3. [image loading] (Z)Hydra

4. [image loading] (T)Leta

5. [image loading] (P)Snow

6. [image loading] (T)sKyHigh

7. [image loading] (T)BByong

8. [image loading] (Z)EffOrt

9. [image loading] (Z)Where

10. [image loading] (T)XellOs



Why do you have a Fox team logo?

Because FOX are awesome! CJ are scary good right now though. SCARY good.

In all seriousness, I could easily see Horang2, Movie, Hydra and Leta in the power rank this upcoming month.
Sucker for nostalgia
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
June 20 2011 13:55 GMT
#362
Slumps left and right
Bisu knocked out again.

Powa rot rank
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Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
June 20 2011 14:13 GMT
#363
On June 19 2011 09:48 Soap wrote:
Also KT plays CeeeeeeeeJay next, Flash is toast


+ Show Spoiler +
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
June 20 2011 14:28 GMT
#364
Flamewheel, what ever you do, do not put Bisu or Jaedong at the top. Put in Flash again.

cue evil laughter..... ^_^
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
June 20 2011 14:30 GMT
#365
On June 20 2011 23:28 c3rberUs wrote:
Flamewheel, what ever you do, do not put Bisu or Jaedong at the top. Put in Flash again.

cue evil laughter..... ^_^

no-no

bisu CLEARLY deserves it.

if loosing to hyvaa was the start... MSL qualifieres are within next month too right ?
In the woods, there lurks..
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
June 20 2011 14:38 GMT
#366
Erase the hate please.
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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
June 20 2011 15:27 GMT
#367
Haha, can't believe Flash lost again. He's totally still #1 though. Remember when JD went 0-3 in the PL finals, proceeded to get knocked out of MSL a couple of days later, but won the Golden Mouse/second consecutive OSL and was pretty much undisputed at the top of the PR anyway? That was sort of like this, except Flash's losses are less important games and his achievement is even greater in a historical perspective.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
June 20 2011 15:48 GMT
#368
It's sad that Flash's play has fallen but no one has risen to take up the mantle. Who else could be #1 besides Flash at this point?

Bisu? Knocked out of OSL.
Jaedong? Just had a slump. Still looking fragile.
Hydra? Not after getting dominated by Flash 0-3
Zero? See Hydra
Horang2? Knocked out of OSL.
Bogus? Still an up and comer. What has he done to match MSL finals domination? Nothing.

So yeah, Flash seems to still easily be the #1 pick this month. No need to worry Holgerius.
darkness overpowering
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
June 20 2011 16:25 GMT
#369
I think the upcoming OSL match will decide once and for all if Flash should be #1 or not. If he makes it out, he should be #1. If he doesn't, he shouldn't be #1. Flash's losing streak won't be too big of a factor if he can prove that he can still when it counts (which I believe he will). These proleague matches aren't particularly relevant as far as the top 3 teams are considered.

On the other hand, if Flash is eliminated and if Jaedong destroys his group the same way he did with the MSL group of death and also goes on to help his team make the playoffs, I would give the #1 spot to Jaedong despite how he did at the beginning of this month (and the MSL elimination was already accounted for in the last month).
Gescom
Profile Joined February 2010
Canada3409 Posts
June 20 2011 16:59 GMT
#370
^ I was just coming in here to post the same thing. I think that the OSL group A qualifiers are going to cement who belongs where (as much as possible) for this month. I'm really shocked at Flash losing 5 pl games in a row...
Jaedong Hyuk || Bisu Jangbi || Fantasy Flash
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
June 20 2011 17:38 GMT
#371
As much as I've been forced to argue for Horang2, there is no way, NO FUCKING WAY he deserves #1.

What I don't understand is... what the hell is going on in KT house? They have 30 wins in PL. The #4 ranked team has what, 24 wins? That means unless they lose every single match they are going to end the season as #3. In terms of what that means for the playoffs, there's no difference between ending as #3 and ending as #4 - #6 and there is mathematically NO WAY for them to drop out of the top 6. Likewise, they are not going to move up. Not when CJ is playing this strong and SKT1 is playing this strong. Not happening. So again, WHY are they playing Flash? Either the coaching staff has lost all its sense or Flash's wrist problems are a lie. Because you don't play someone who is injured in a game that doesn't actually matter.

As far as ranking, still a bit early to give anything too precise. I'm thinking of something like this:

1. Flash - MSL winner, even if he's playing like garbage in PL, there's no one in the world more dangerous
2. Bisu - the new #1 ranked by ELO, would be #1 had he made it past the OSL offline prelims
3. Hydra - kid is TEARING IT UP. #1 ranked Zerg by ELO and rising.
4-8. Soulkey, Movie, Horang2, Jaedong
(you may notice that is only 7 names... I'm allowing for some overlap of categories)
6-10. Best
(this is only 8 names, leaving two spots blank TBD based on rest of month)
9-10 + CBNC: Bogus, Stats, Jaehoon, Soo, Zero, Light, Roro

Things I'm looking to see from certain players:
-Zero I've put in CBNC for now. I feel awkward doing this to a finalist but other than a win over Fantasy there's nothing of note on his record and Fantasy is struggling at TvZ right now.
-Best and Soo need to show me they aren't just one match wonders.
-Movie's PvZ right now is absolutely stellar and I think his PvT may be a bit stronger then it looks on paper (consider WHO he's lost to and hows been playing), but I have some concerns over his PvP.
-Roro has been tearing through.... weak players. To his credit he 2-0'd Movie to secure his ODT spot. But other than that... 4 wins over scrubs after a 5 game loss streak?
-Jaehoon at first glance has been ripping it up, but the players he's been beating (e.g. Midas, Free, Calm) have been struggling a bit against Protoss right now. If this were a few months ago it would be a different story.
-Light has been actually doing well against Protoss lately. Unfortunately he's dropping the ball on Terran. I want to see more strength demonstrated in TvT.
-Zero hasn't really been bad this month despite what his record looks like and it's kind of unfair to hold his record against him when Flash was in God Mode.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 18:15:50
June 20 2011 18:14 GMT
#372
Hydra #3? No, just no. Apart from his victory against a slumping Flash on a zerg favored map with the best possible map positions, he's beaten Princess, ggaemo, Hyun and Mind. Mind is decent but the rest are all pretty bad/mediocre at ZvZ. Let's not forget that he's just coming out of a 0-3 loss against Flash. To his credit, he's still in the OSL which is not something that can be said for several of the other PR contenders this month, but that's because he didn't have to go through the preliminaries. Also, he's got the advantage of being part of an extremely strong and varied lineup of players.

I would much rather see Jangbi in the #3 spot who is 12-2 with a perfect PL record and also making it out the qualifiers beating Zero and Leta in the process. It's true that his stats are padded up a bit by beating not so great players like Roo, Sang, and Sharp but it's not like they're amateurs or unknown B team players.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
June 20 2011 18:21 GMT
#373
Hydra is actually on a 10 game winning streak.

Ya, I don't think it's fair to count games vs Flash in God-mode.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
scrubtastic
Profile Joined May 2009
1166 Posts
June 20 2011 19:20 GMT
#374
What about something like this?

1) Hoejja. Who deserves PR #1 anyway? Bisu getting killed in prelims while Flash getting killed repeatedly in Proleague? Screw that, neither of these guys is worthy. PR#1 should clearly go to Hoejja who has suddenly gone on a 5-win vP streak and is getting wins in PL while all his teammates are failing in one way or another. Such an improvement!
2) Yellow. Later dude, GL in life
3-4) Flash and Bisu, I really don't care what order. Maybe if Flash 2-0s his OSL group...
5-10) Probably some CJ folks go here, in some order, and JD? Best? Maybe SK?
lyAsakura
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1414 Posts
June 20 2011 19:41 GMT
#375
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/977_Wooki

P7GAB's been beasting it up, maybe not power rank level yet, but he's getting up there. Maybe a serious contender for a lower spot in the upcoming months!!
WeMade FOX would be a deadly SC2 team.
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
June 20 2011 19:51 GMT
#376
On June 21 2011 04:41 lyAsakura wrote:
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/korean/players/977_Wooki

P7GAB's been beasting it up, maybe not power rank level yet, but he's getting up there. Maybe a serious contender for a lower spot in the upcoming months!!

No.
Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 20:44:31
June 20 2011 20:43 GMT
#377
Jangbi deserves some props for escaping as a wildcard, but other than a couple bo1 wins over Zero and Leta to earn that spot he has done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. The only other remotely competent vP player he has faced was Hyuk.

Don't pad resumes with prelim matches. Prelims are a total crap-shoot.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
June 20 2011 23:00 GMT
#378
Jaehoon for PR imo
WriterXiao8~~
aupstar
Profile Joined June 2007
Australia912 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-20 23:06:22
June 20 2011 23:04 GMT
#379
I'm pretty sure the reason Flash isn't doing so well in PL is because he's resting his wrist and not practising so much.

He did say his wrist starts hurting after 3 matches so I wouldn't be surprised if he decreased his training schedule significantly after his MSL win.

Can't blame him though. He's so young and still has so much potential. I'm sure after his wrist has healed a bit he'll go back to pwning it up.

We don't want what happened to ggplay happen to Flash so I'm with him on this one.

Flash still deserves #1 PR for his historic win..

This season's MSL was extra hard too imo because there was no OSL to practice for.
Firebats, the natural enemy of octozerg
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
June 20 2011 23:39 GMT
#380
On June 21 2011 08:04 aupstar wrote:
This season's MSL was extra hard too imo because there was no OSL to practice for.


I'd say it was a bit easier for that reason. Few people besides Flash usually get deep in both tournaments, so he's often at a disadvantage due to that in the later stages. But not this time.
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