EPTHe won the game no matter how. Nobody was wining because of Nal_rA making som much cheese stuff (and winning with it
).Is Boxer A Pansy?
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proTOSS[GER]
858 Posts
He won the game no matter how. Nobody was wining because of Nal_rA making som much cheese stuff (and winning with it ). | ||
Legionnaire
Australia4514 Posts
Boxer on the other hand did the same thing 3 times in a row giving him the title of making the shittest ever semi finals on OGN. I'm sure OGN are annoyed. Now the reason for the Poll is, i can't remember, since the beginning of time, long before the dinosaurs roamed the world, of there ever being a big match where i've told people its not worth watching. Sure often there is a game or two that you tell them to skip. Often its still fun to see what devious things happened, but this one is in a super pansy league of its own. | ||
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pinbaLL
Sweden1711 Posts
But he'll get raped by oov! | ||
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DoubleStormIII
Korea (South)2610 Posts
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SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
On November 12 2004 07:25 DoubleStormIII wrote: My friends started learning Warcraft 3 after watching today's games :O LOL yeah, boxer's a pansy... | ||
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JudasT
Spain2226 Posts
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
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HowitZer
United States1610 Posts
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RaiZ
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Piece_Of_Pie
Australia169 Posts
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sundance
Slovakia3201 Posts
On November 12 2004 07:31 JudasT wrote: Yellow didn't know how to stop that rush... it is his fault I think Why Boxer should use another strat if this worked pretty well for him. | ||
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HowitZer
United States1610 Posts
On November 12 2004 07:56 SuNDAnce wrote: Why Boxer should use another strat if this worked pretty well for him. Exactly. What motivation does he have to try something else that he thinks won't work as well? That's why I don't see how you can blame him. | ||
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iCmB
France525 Posts
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
Thank you, Next. | ||
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Schnake
Germany2819 Posts
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Legionnaire
Australia4514 Posts
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PoP
France15446 Posts
On November 12 2004 07:22 Legionnaire wrote: It was reach not nal_ra, and the games were entertaining as the builds were all different. Boxer on the other hand did the same thing 3 times in a row giving him the title of making the shittest ever semi finals on OGN. He did the same thing three times in a row because Yellow did the same thing three times in a row. Simple as that. Now the reason for the Poll is, i can't remember, since the beginning of time, long before the dinosaurs roamed the world, of there ever being a big match where i've told people its not worth watching. Sure often there is a game or two that you tell them to skip. Often its still fun to see what devious things happened, but this one is in a super pansy league of its own. Kingdom vs Junwi (MyCube semis) were the same kind of games. Yellow deserved to lose exactly like Junwi did. Which doesn't change the fact that the games were boring as hell. | ||
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SoMuchBetter
Australia10606 Posts
boxer was betting on yellow hoping that boxer wouldnt bunker rush him again whilst yellow was betting that boxer wasnt going to bunker rush him again and yeah, the games were as boring as hell, thanks to the bunker rushes happening and working thrice | ||
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Sublime
United States79 Posts
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Hoops
417 Posts
 Oh and artists are pansys too, so there you go | ||
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TojsteR
16 Posts
ooV will rush Boxer | ||
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Nal_Testie
Canada1257 Posts
Boxer has 0 pansiness. Everyone except me (because I don't watch reps) has surely seen his large balls. When you have balls the size of his, you are not allowed to be questioned as a panzy. | ||
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AzuRE[LighT]
United States2 Posts
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Elvin_vn
Vietnam2038 Posts
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ahk-gosu
Korea (South)2099 Posts
boxer did something smart not somthing pansyish. yellow did not need to expand every single game. the standard build can be exploited. like rushing dragoon tech with marine medic. the only problem i had with boxer is that he is an entertainer as well as a competitor so he should have tried to entertain the crowd and not just think of winning. like his medic blinding observers. he lost the game but did something innovative which he was remembered for. winning isnt everything. boxer did need to win this game to be a hat trick but , although it worked nicely, he should have been more creative. btw i voted yes. | ||
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1024MB
United States1455 Posts
He's not a "pansy" whether the people on here think so or not. GET IT IN YOUR HEAD PEOPLE. PROGAMER's FIRST PRIORITY IS TO WIN. IT's HOW THEY GET THEIR MONEY. IF HE TRIED TO ENTERTAIN AND LOST, YOU'D BE WHINING ON HERE. In fact, I find that just as entertaining as a longer more "played out" game. It shows BoxeR's true skill. BoxeR has been around playing SC for SO LONG. He's done SO MUCH stuff. He's been VERY ENTERTAINING. He's VERY GOOD. The fact that you would now call him a pansy just shows some real ignorance and bad manners here. I have an idea. First get up to the top 10. | ||
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Elvin_vn
Vietnam2038 Posts
Boxer laid down on his bed, thinking "oh shit, i'll be playing yellow next several days and i didn't do shit". Then Boxer began to think of all the possible alternative strategies he could go against yellow "damn, there's no way I can beat this guy, the only way is to cheese him. Hmm the comp can do 8 rax, hey, i can do it better than the comp, let's perfect this strat" | ||
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ChApFoU
France2982 Posts
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ChApFoU
France2982 Posts
edit : all in all cheese is just part of the game, ok it was not entertaining, ok the maps blew for yellow but this is the results : 3-0, Boxer raped yellow period (and i'm a big fan of yellow so don't say it is biased ) | ||
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DevilZbOy
United States36 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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1024MB
United States1455 Posts
"Oh no, BoxeR, one of the TWO players, didn't risk his chance of survival (in which case if he lost you'd all be mad too) to stretch the game out so I could spend 20 more minutes of my life watching a VOD. So this means he's a pansy!" How selfish is that? | ||
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Legionnaire
Australia4514 Posts
On November 12 2004 10:19 1024MB wrote: A Pansy? What the!?!?!? Now we're on to degrading BoxeR because of the fact he chose victory over risking loss just to entertain? How low can you go? He's not a "pansy" whether the people on here think so or not. GET IT IN YOUR HEAD PEOPLE. PROGAMER's FIRST PRIORITY IS TO WIN. IT's HOW THEY GET THEIR MONEY. IF HE TRIED TO ENTERTAIN AND LOST, YOU'D BE WHINING ON HERE. In fact, I find that just as entertaining as a longer more "played out" game. It shows BoxeR's true skill. BoxeR has been around playing SC for SO LONG. He's done SO MUCH stuff. He's been VERY ENTERTAINING. He's VERY GOOD. The fact that you would now call him a pansy just shows some real ignorance and bad manners here. I have an idea. First get up to the top 10. A simple "No" would suffice. | ||
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1024MB
United States1455 Posts
A simple "No" wouldn't show people how silly it is to even be considering to call him a "pansy." I would do the same if someone called you a "pansy" if you beat someone fast as well. | ||
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Radule
Serbia15 Posts
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PoP
France15446 Posts
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1024MB
United States1455 Posts
GAH. The more I look at that definition, the more I see how stupid some people can be. | ||
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Geval
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taDa
575 Posts
BoxeR is too skilled to be called a pansy. | ||
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Geval
788 Posts
On November 12 2004 10:12 ahk-gosu wrote: well yellow didnt expect to get rushed by the same thing 3 times but thats why it worked. boxer did something smart not somthing pansyish. yellow did not need to expand every single game. the standard build can be exploited. like rushing dragoon tech with marine medic. the only problem i had with boxer is that he is an entertainer as well as a competitor so he should have tried to entertain the crowd and not just think of winning. like his medic blinding observers. he lost the game but did something innovative which he was remembered for. winning isnt everything. boxer did need to win this game to be a hat trick but , although it worked nicely, he should have been more creative. btw i voted yes. Come on. this time Boxer Aimed for the time record. the shortes bo5 ever. Thats why I love him. Hes unexpected. A true master of sc | ||
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Ready2[ESC]
Hungary1436 Posts
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1024MB
United States1455 Posts
On November 12 2004 11:09 taDa wrote: BoxeR is too skilled to be called a pansy. AMEN! Someone see's the light! | ||
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nitram
Canada5412 Posts
On November 12 2004 07:42 HowitZer wrote: Boxer stirred up all this discussion with his play in a computer game. He is art, not pansy. No, he is pansy | ||
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Meat
Netherlands3751 Posts
On November 12 2004 10:19 1024MB wrote: A Pansy? What the!?!?!? Now we're on to degrading BoxeR because of the fact he chose victory over risking loss just to entertain? How low can you go? He's not a "pansy" whether the people on here think so or not. GET IT IN YOUR HEAD PEOPLE. PROGAMER's FIRST PRIORITY IS TO WIN. IT's HOW THEY GET THEIR MONEY. IF HE TRIED TO ENTERTAIN AND LOST, YOU'D BE WHINING ON HERE. In fact, I find that just as entertaining as a longer more "played out" game. It shows BoxeR's true skill. BoxeR has been around playing SC for SO LONG. He's done SO MUCH stuff. He's been VERY ENTERTAINING. He's VERY GOOD. The fact that you would now call him a pansy just shows some real ignorance and bad manners here. I have an idea. First get up to the top 10. Starcraft is so populair because of the entertaining factor, with doing this kinda shit he could have lost more money than when he lost the matches | ||
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1024MB
United States1455 Posts
On November 12 2004 11:25 Liquid`Meat wrote: Starcraft is so populair because of the entertaining factor, with doing this kinda shit he could have lost more money than when he lost the matches But to many true BoxeR fans, the fact that he could pull those off is entertainment enough. | ||
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Bard
Jamaica898 Posts
Last poll people voted for Boxer's winning, the percentage was 62%:38% Now you (some of you) people switching side and saying Boxer is cheesy pansy meany blah blah blah. He cheese / bunker rushed BECAUSE HE IS THE BOXER. Who else can cheese / bunker rush YELLOW THREE TIMES IN A ROW?? Only Boxer can, because he knows Yellow better than any other gamers in the world. GG BOXER and GG YELLOW. | ||
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1024MB
United States1455 Posts
On November 12 2004 11:27 Bard wrote: http://www.teamliquid.net/poll/ Last poll people voted for Boxer's winning, the percentage was 62%:38% Now you (some of you) people switching side and saying Boxer is cheesy pansy meany blah blah blah. He cheese / bunker rushed BECAUSE HE IS THE BOXER. Who else can cheese / bunker rush YELLOW THREE TIMES IN A ROW?? Only Boxer can because he know Yellow othere than any gamers in the world. GG BOXER and GG YELLOW. Exactly. This in itself is plenty entertaining. Go BoxeR! | ||
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Spiffbane
United States16 Posts
It's easy to criticize from the viewpoint of an outsider, and really difficult to truly place yourself in that position. What would you have done if you were playing a match at that level with those stakes against that player... | ||
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Ack1027
United States7873 Posts
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ManaBlue
Canada10458 Posts
You should all be pissed at Yellow for being such a pansey and getting bitch slapped three times in a row by the same strat. Nuff' said. | ||
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proTOSS[GER]
858 Posts
On November 12 2004 07:22 Legionnaire wrote: It was reach not nal_ra, and the games were entertaining as the builds were all different. I said Nal_rA was the the one who is famous for playing risky/cheesy strats and winning with it. Reach didn't won vs oov afaik. Boxer beat Yellow - it doesn't matter how. | ||
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LumberJack
United States3355 Posts
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
Anyone could have fucking built a barrack at 8 and rush with 5 scvs. The only difference between Boxer and his fanboys is that he chose to do it 3 times. Whoopteedo, some ingenious strategy huh? I bet nobody but boxer could beat 8-9 drones using 2 marines and 5 scvs, wow, incredible micro!!! And he did it THREE times too!!! OMG!!! WHAT A GENIOUS!! Stop treating this series as a series to remember for its ingeniousness, or tough mental battle, or whatever. It is what it is, a boring ass series with rushes. If everyone started to practice starcraft the way boxer does, this game will produce the most heap of crap games ever. Even OGN admits this series sucked ass. | ||
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Camila_br
Brazil529 Posts
On November 12 2004 11:13 Geval wrote: Come on. this time Boxer Aimed for the time record. the shortes bo5 ever. Thats why I love him. Hes unexpected. A true master of sc lol anyone remember 2003 winner finals? boxer won just 1 game, with this same strat I think... | ||
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GrooVe
Finland196 Posts
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HowitZer
United States1610 Posts
On November 12 2004 12:46 Tien wrote: Thats why I have respect for terrans like Nada and now Iloveoov who play straight up with you. They may cheese you once but the rest of the games is straight up. Anyone could have fucking built a barrack at 8 and rush with 5 scvs. The only difference between Boxer and his fanboys is that he chose to do it 3 times. Whoopteedo, some ingenious strategy huh? I bet nobody but boxer could beat 8-9 drones using 2 marines and 5 scvs, wow, incredible micro!!! And he did it THREE times too!!! OMG!!! WHAT A GENIOUS!! Stop treating this series as a series to remember for its ingeniousness, or tough mental battle, or whatever. It is what it is, a boring ass series with rushes. If everyone started to practice starcraft the way boxer does, this game will produce the most heap of crap games ever. Even OGN admits this series sucked ass. lol yeah I could beat yellow now too. Thanks for letting me know because I bet im in the top 100,000 terrans. Do you even play competitive starcraft? The reason Boxer can win with these strategies is because he understands the game and his opponent. He's a master. No way could anyone else do what he did unless they knew the game as well as he does. Did you read the interview of boxer after the game? Ponder this: do you think yellow is pissed at Boxer for "stooping so low" or pissed at himself for not being more clever. In the end it can only be the second one if you want to improve your game. You can't blame the other guy if he didn't do anything wrong. | ||
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paniK.
Canada233 Posts
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paniK.
Canada233 Posts
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dork_of_death!!
United States374 Posts
On November 12 2004 13:04 GrooVe wrote: This is coming very intresting... Next time Yell0w will learn 4pool and do it 3 times. Veeery intresting... learn to play Boxer. If u cant win, quit ok? lmao i'd love to see you go against boxer 1v1 i will relish the moment when boxer beats oov and all of you noobs switch gears to proclaiming how much boxer owns | ||
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
The reason why starcraft is still being watched by hundreds of thousands of people is because of straight up games which are fun to watch, not because of 5 minute cheese fests Im pretty disgusted that some people actually enjoyed watching these 3 games. | ||
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Jansports
United States80 Posts
First: I will grant first game retardation, Boxer was Extremly lucky in positions and Yellows Horrible Scouting. Game two I beleive Yellow mad a bad mistake. He scouted wrong and now its 50/50 whether Boxer can efectivly rush him out again. The map allready favors terran over zerg and this Should have put yellow on conservative mode, IE 9 Pool over 12 Hat. He tests the waters though to see how hell bent on Cheesing boxer is and he finds out Boxer will stop at nothing to Cheese for his Victory. Game three Yellow Scouted Correctly STILL knowing close spots again terran favored map and BoxeR showing Bunk Rush Twice(BRT for short?) Yellow either has a tumor infecting the logical part of his brain or is a machine programmed to 12 Hat all day long, or he himself(like boxer) refuses to try any new strat. And it costs him the game Second: Boxer has some Sexy SVC Micro I must give him the props. This BO is dangerous 8 Rax could be Murder again 9 pool sunk expo because your econ will drop behind and Lurk Ling could start to be a problem, Theory but not far off, Try Bunk rushing(with or without Boxers timing and micro) against 9 Pool to Sunk(s) it just makes you cry! POINT BEING: Boxer Was not using some sortf of new magic build that makes terran win for free, nor was he hacking, I also did not hear him shouting taunts and pelvic thrusts at yellow for losing. He used a strat that has strengths and weaknesses, and its stregths preyed on Yellows weaknesses. Third: If you're upset because Yellow lost, Be Upset at Yellow! not Boxer. Yellow ATE the same Rush over and over and over Doing incresingly worse against it each game (He lived the longest game 1) Blame his Lack of a learning curve! As a Progamer his JOB is to not lose, which he did not do Im sure someone in charge of something is excedingly pissed at him right now. Fourth: Its a Progame! I dont think I'd call anyone in any progame a pansy ever, they are better then me, I am not bitter I can improve my skills like they do only less fast because I have other responsibiltys. It would be nice if my occupation was progamer Im sure within a Month the amount of practice would greatly up my skill level. Lastly: Cheese is a part of the game. They say survival favors the strong but this is not completly true, Survival favors the Fit! and if you are weaker but cunning enough to overcome someone stronger then you then you deserve your victory not Bad Manner Polls | ||
ToKoreaWithLove
Norway10161 Posts
He could have played at least one straight game for entertainment, tho | ||
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
Which games do you enjoy watching more? Cheesefests Straight up games I think it is important to please the fans. Without the fans this game wouldnt exist. Saying "FU, im doing this for money" to the fans will only make them turn away from the game. | ||
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HowitZer
United States1610 Posts
On November 12 2004 13:22 Tien wrote: Im pissed at boxer for turning this fantastic rivalry based on good straight up games in the pass, into a fucking cheese rush. The reason why starcraft is still being watched by hundreds of thousands of people is because of straight up games which are fun to watch, not because of 5 minute cheese fests Im pretty disgusted that some people actually enjoyed watching these 3 games. I define a good straightup game as two players starting with a nexus, cc or hatchery and 4 workers. The reason people watch starcraft is because the game has many different strategies that can be used and it takes lots of skill to execute them well. Why are you disgusted? | ||
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hasuwar
7365 Posts
On November 12 2004 08:32 Legionnaire wrote: A fuckin men. There's a lot of people on this site that simply do not fuckin' understand that today. I wanted boxer to win, my only disappointment was with the patheticness of the games. | ||
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Geval
788 Posts
On November 12 2004 10:25 ChApFoU wrote: at least now we are sure OGN is not rigged coz they must have been pissed by what they saw :D Im not sure about that. Owning Yellow in record timming might atract a lot of attention | ||
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Jansports
United States80 Posts
On November 12 2004 13:32 HowitZer wrote: I define a good straightup game as two players starting with a nexus, cc or hatchery and 4 workers. The reason people watch starcraft is because the game has many different strategies that can be used and it takes lots of skill to execute them well. Why are you disgusted? 100% Agree | ||
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kuwakJai
Thailand198 Posts
On November 12 2004 13:22 Tien wrote: Im pissed at boxer for turning this fantastic rivalry based on good straight up games in the pass, into a fucking cheese rush. The reason why starcraft is still being watched by hundreds of thousands of people is because of straight up games which are fun to watch, not because of 5 minute cheese fests Im pretty disgusted that some people actually enjoyed watching these 3 games. hmm.... do you seriously think that boxer is thinking to himself..... gee, i wonder if this will be good for our fantastic rivalry..... straight up games, this is as straight up as it can get. if u ask me all the definition of straight up games if getting fucking boring. sc needs something like this. and who else better to deliver it. boxer is a legend. at this point he has nothing else more to prove except that he can win. everything else, he's already proved time and time again... | ||
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Locked
United States4182 Posts
On November 12 2004 13:32 HowitZer wrote: I define a good straightup game as two players starting with a nexus, cc or hatchery and 4 workers. slightly modified: I define a good straightup game as two players starting with a nexus, cc or hatchery and ovie, 50 minerals, and 4 workers on a legit map. kekeke >_> and i voted No of course... boxer is not a pansy ~_~ | ||
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LetMeBeWithYou
Canada4254 Posts
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HowitZer
United States1610 Posts
On November 12 2004 13:41 hasuwar wrote: A fuckin men. There's a lot of people on this site that simply do not fuckin' understand that today. There is a difference of opinion between the two sides that will not go away. Some people wanted action packed games with drops, flanks, lots of expos and big battles. As long as they both start from equal terms I will be interested in any outcome from that point on. In this case I am intrigued at how the outcomes happened and not dissappointed that I didn't get to see any of the stuff I mentioned before. So I do understand your point of view, but I don't feel the same way. | ||
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S.Unclean
Colombia331 Posts
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Geval
788 Posts
On November 12 2004 14:00 kuwakJai wrote: hmm.... do you seriously think that boxer is thinking to himself..... gee, i wonder if this will be good for our fantastic rivalry..... straight up games, this is as straight up as it can get. if u ask me all the definition of straight up games if getting fucking boring. sc needs something like this. and who else better to deliver it. boxer is a legend. at this point he has nothing else more to prove except that he can win. everything else, he's already proved time and time again... Agreed I though Boxer has proved everything he could, but I was wrong. Now he did (beating Yellow in record the time) and I wonder if Im not wrong again. Boxer for king... ... nvm I forgot he's already an emperor On November 12 2004 14:03 LetMeBeWithYou wrote: i want if yellow is fucking pissed about it =o He's probably not pissed off at Boxer alhough he should be pissed of at himself. He knew who was better today. | ||
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DevilZbOy
United States36 Posts
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
It's not like some ppl just want to lose a bit of their disappointment over games that they had been longing for years. GOGO ARGUE! | ||
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Monsen
Germany2548 Posts
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kCiNNiCk
United Kingdom313 Posts
It also shows that BW needs to have a new patch bringing SCV health down from 60 to 50, or maybe 40. Dissapointed... | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
On November 12 2004 13:28 ToKoreaWithLove wrote: Since Boxer beat Yellow without breaking much of a sweat in the challenge league finals leading up to this osl I don't think he have to prove anything at all. He could have played at least one straight game for entertainment, tho yellow beat boxer pretty bad sometime in the near past, it was on luna but i dont remember what it was for | ||
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likeboxer
Korea (South)465 Posts
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Painbringer
Norway446 Posts
Jesus christ stup blaming boxer for owning yellow. | ||
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[CS]Pablo
Brazil338 Posts
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baal
10533 Posts
but Boxer is a pansy too, just look at his face for gods sake. | ||
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ToKoreaWithLove
Norway10161 Posts
On November 12 2004 16:46 [CS]Pablo wrote: If ilnp had ever had the chance to go to Korea this wouldn't have happened. He would've teached the Korean zergs that nine-pool is the only viable strat, in any match-up, in any map. I think chojja did this a long time ago. | ||
Arbiter[frolix]
United Kingdom2674 Posts
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Splinter
United States188 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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booooo
Singapore372 Posts
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ajian
China56 Posts
It's boxer,he always know what yellow is thinking | ||
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Tien
Russian Federation4447 Posts
Yet if you ask these fans which games they would rather see if they had to choose one of the two: cheesefests lasting 5-8 minutes each or longer games lasting 20-30 mins, most of them would choose the latter. If Yellow 6 pooled boxer three games in a row and won I'd be fucking pissed aswell and lose respect for Yellow. Give the fans what they want, the survival of Starcraft depends on games of entertaining value, not these three pieces of garbage. | ||
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ManaBlue
Canada10458 Posts
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DevilZbOy
United States36 Posts
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ky[Z]
China1730 Posts
On November 12 2004 13:22 Tien wrote: Im pissed at boxer for turning this fantastic rivalry based on good straight up games in the pass, into a fucking cheese rush. The reason why starcraft is still being watched by hundreds of thousands of people is because of straight up games which are fun to watch, not because of 5 minute cheese fests Im pretty disgusted that some people actually enjoyed watching these 3 games. it would have been a fantastic series if yellow can defend those rushes. blame yellow. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On November 12 2004 18:35 DevilZbOy wrote: slaughter)bio, you sound like a chobe...sad for saying what u did T_T; What dose my Starcraft skill have to do with what boxer dose in a game? Nothing so lets cut the low level jabs to try to make your lil hero boxer seem like hes just awesome for doing bunk rush 3x. | ||
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mrdx
Vietnam1555 Posts
On November 12 2004 07:22 Legionnaire wrote: It was reach not nal_ra, and the games were entertaining as the builds were all different. Boxer on the other hand did the same thing 3 times in a row giving him the title of making the shittest ever semi finals on OGN. I'm sure OGN are annoyed. Now the reason for the Poll is, i can't remember, since the beginning of time, long before the dinosaurs roamed the world, of there ever being a big match where i've told people its not worth watching. Sure often there is a game or two that you tell them to skip. Often its still fun to see what devious things happened, but this one is in a super pansy league of its own. No offence, but I think you'll never be able to play gosu like them if you still have this kind of thought. The 1st concern is victory, and even if the strat is just a cheese, Yellow still deserved to lose cos he couldn't fight against it. If you think it's unfair, then STOP PLAYING STARCRAFT! | ||
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DevilZbOy
United States36 Posts
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Painbringer
Norway446 Posts
On November 12 2004 17:59 Tien wrote: If Yellow 6 pooled boxer three games in a row and won I'd be fucking pissed aswell and lose respect for Yellow. first of all I think Boxer would have been able to defend that rush 1 or 2 times at least. And if not I would have been disapointed in BOXER for not beeing able to stop such an easy strat. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On November 12 2004 19:44 DevilZbOy wrote: all you need to understand Slaughter)biO is that, Boxer is the greatest player EVER in Starcraft Broodwar so dont diss him t('-'t) he is one of a kind. If he can beat Yellow 3 times by doing the samething, whos fault is that? i wouldnt blame Boxer, only one to blame here is yellow for not changing his style of play. Im sure most people would agree that, if you could beat someone 3 times in a row by doing the samething, why not keep doing it? esp at there level, let the Terran Emperor return ok? Its not his fault he outsmarted Yellow ^^ just because hes a bw legend dosent mean hes prone to not being a dick once in a while. You give him this higher status that really is annoying. | ||
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hasuwar
7365 Posts
On November 12 2004 14:10 Honk2000 wrote: This guy gets it. Although I don't think Yellow would have continued to play like that vs Silent_Controlwhat if silent_control gamed like that vs yellow? would everybody also call him a strategic genius? | ||
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Locked
United States4182 Posts
yes i'll probably lose them all but it doesn't matter >_> it really is yellow's fault for not switching strats... atleast on the third match, he even scouted it -_- i'm not hailing this as some sort of strategic geniusery by boxer... its just him taking advantage of a weakness in yellow's build (after all no strats are 100% failsafe) and yellow refusing to switch even when it was apparent it wouldn't work... EDIT: i am also fucking sick of posts all over the forum that say boxer sucks boxer should've done it "for the entertainment, for the fans, for the good of SC" and "do you want all games to be 10 minutes long and full of 'cheese' ?" i won't mention any names to hopefully avoid flames but thats a realy fucking stupid opinion... IMO >_> i mean guess fucking what, face the reality, boxer KNOWS he is at a much higher advantage doing an 8rax build bringing the focus into early game than if he were to play a "straight - out" match of SC that would force him to macro more against YellOw, someone who's on fire lately. This isn't even a choice between boxer humiliating yellow (which i don't even think it was humiliating) by doing 3 rushes in a row out of spite instead of playing a prolonged game for no reason at all except to please some random "fans", where he would PROBABLY LOSE. get that through your heads -_- and a big  to those that say boxer is going to kill SC because of this or w/e....[/rant] | ||
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Geval
788 Posts
On November 12 2004 21:08 Locked wrote: I challenge everyone who voted yes to a BO3 !!! yes i'll probably lose them all but it doesn't matter >_> it really is yellow's fault for not switching strats... atleast on the third match, he even scouted it -_- i'm not hailing this as some sort of strategic geniusery by boxer... its just him taking advantage of a weakness in yellow's build (after all no strats are 100% failsafe) and yellow refusing to switch even when it was apparent it wouldn't work... EDIT: i am also fucking sick of posts all over the forum that say boxer sucks boxer should've done it "for the entertainment, for the fans, for the good of SC" and "do you want all games to be 10 minutes long and full of 'cheese' ?" i won't mention any names to hopefully avoid flames but thats a realy fucking stupid opinion... IMO >_> i mean guess fucking what, face the reality, boxer KNOWS he is at a much higher advantage doing an 8rax build bringing the focus into early game than if he were to play a "straight - out" match of SC that would force him to macro more against YellOw, someone who's on fire lately. This isn't even a choice between boxer humiliating yellow (which i don't even think it was humiliating) by doing 3 rushes in a row out of spite instead of playing a prolonged game for no reason at all except to please some random "fans", where he would PROBABLY LOSE. get that through your heads -_- and a big to those that say boxer is going to kill SC because of this or w/e....[/rant] I think he did not kill but enchnce starcraft by another great bo which will bring more diversity to the game. BWT. Boxer has a right to kill sc cuz he creates it. I and probably many other ppl would not go to this forum if boxer would retired. | ||
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subtle
United States187 Posts
Boxer does not play Broodwar for your entertainment. | ||
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Degussa
Singapore108 Posts
Just got to face the facts that bunkers or should it be 8rax, will now be used in ways it hasn't been used before. | ||
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Yautja
Romania25 Posts
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DoubleStormIII
Korea (South)2610 Posts
But there are too many Boxer fans here who think it's okay just because Boxer won :O Well yeah Yellow lost and Boxer won. That doesn't change. But the fact that this was the worst OGN Semifinals in whole history doesn't change either. July, probably the best ZvT ever in world lost to that build 5 times in a row at practice games. | ||
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Minam_Lee
Korea (South)59 Posts
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PoP
France15446 Posts
On November 12 2004 23:58 DoubleStormIII wrote: But the fact that this was the worst OGN Semifinals in whole history doesn't change either. Well, I think everyone will pretty much agree with that. Doesn't change the fact that this poll is a complete joke, though. | ||
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Zoom
1111 Posts
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Elvin_vn
Vietnam2038 Posts
On November 12 2004 19:41 mrdx wrote: No offence, but I think you'll never be able to play gosu like them if you still have this kind of thought. The 1st concern is victory, and even if the strat is just a cheese, Yellow still deserved to lose cos he couldn't fight against it. If you think it's unfair, then STOP PLAYING STARCRAFT! yeah why not. I think some people will lost their interest in SC after this match (read yellow's side of the story) | ||
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Addicted`To`Zerg
Bulgaria1353 Posts
of course he is not-he just played awesome and that is all. very good job ,lim u rock | ||
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Legionnaire
Australia4514 Posts
On November 12 2004 22:55 Yautja wrote: Legionnaire ur in no position to judge him ! U are a nobody and he is the Emperor , most popular progamer in korea , most popular gamer of all time , winner of countless tournaments wich includes two StarLeagues ! Ban me , kick me , i dont care but no matter what Boxer did or will do from now on is great ! To win a OSL semi-final in 15 minutes against Yellow is fantastic and everybody talks about it so it shocked the worldwide broodwar community again with his game ! Any Terran player is using what Boxer invented with small personal adjustments ! He is a gaming God end of story ! Nice poll by the way ! U really are sucky-noobish-lame gamers with no respect for the work of other people ! By the way Legionnaire when u come up with some new broodwar strat or win anything mail me so i can kill myself ! - Yes i am, just as you are in a position to defend him. - I dont abuse my admin powers, you are entitled to your opinions why would i care? I ban on merit not on opinions. - I agree boxer is awesome. - Yes it is a nice poll, i actually think its the best one ever made for this forum? why? because people are actually commenting on it (1/5th of users) 2 polls ago, it was never used and thus i am hoping it will continue on into the next few polls. Contraversy creates strife, strife is the breeding ground of invention, thus my poll is the saviour of this site.. uhh.. yeah...:S hee hee I won a game vs a computer today, so whats your address, i expect to see your name in the obituary soon ^_^ Next poll will be up tommorrow, i'll let this one do its work until then, it will be the same as the previous one but for the finalists. | ||
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USMCgamer
Korea (South)255 Posts
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MaGnIfIcA
Norway2312 Posts
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3LvIs
Australia10 Posts
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Travin
Sweden672 Posts
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MPXMX
Canada4309 Posts
1. Used as a disparaging term for a man or boy who is considered effeminate. 2. Used as a disparaging term for a homosexual man. | ||
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Yautja
Romania25 Posts
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Shockwave
Germany92 Posts
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xG-James.cz
Czech Republic88 Posts
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Locked
United States4182 Posts
On November 12 2004 23:58 DoubleStormIII wrote: Well yeah Yellow lost and Boxer won. That doesn't change. But the fact that this was the worst OGN Semifinals in whole history doesn't change either. can anyone explain how that is boxer's fault.... for winning? instead of yellow for not defending? and if it is not yellow's fault because its imbalanced thats still not boxer's fault for abusing imbalance to win just one person plz explain that -_- i mean if this is the worst OGN semifinals ever why is it boxer's fault? i actually thought it was pretty cool he managed to beat yellow, probably the best zerg evar (whom i like a lot), in like 15 minutes 3-0 at a major semifinal bo5. plz stfu about how professional SC is an entertainment business and it will die because boxer is winning with imbalanced strats so he should suck it up and lose EDIT: i'm not attacking doublestorm, just pointing out a statement from one of his paragraphs, i have no idea what dsIII thinks about it as he didn't state an opinion etc. | ||
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Geval
788 Posts
On November 13 2004 02:25 Legionnaire wrote: - Yes i am, just as you are in a position to defend him. - I dont abuse my admin powers, you are entitled to your opinions why would i care? I ban on merit not on opinions. - I agree boxer is awesome. - Yes it is a nice poll, i actually think its the best one ever made for this forum? why? because people are actually commenting on it (1/5th of users) 2 polls ago, it was never used and thus i am hoping it will continue on into the next few polls. Contraversy creates strife, strife is the breeding ground of invention, thus my poll is the saviour of this site.. uhh.. yeah...:S hee hee I won a game vs a computer today, so whats your address, i expect to see your name in the obituary soon ^_^ Next poll will be up tommorrow, i'll let this one do its work until then, it will be the same as the previous one but for the finalists. Wow I wanted to flame leg for what he said before but I have to say I do agree with everything in this post though. This poll was in fact necessary since there is a huge controversy on the game. Furthermore, this poll proves that BOXER is not a pancy in the eyes of most ppl since >60% voted no. BTW good poll leg, i apology for what i said before. A poll only ask you for an opinion. The bad poll is the one that does not attract ppl. And if you think this or any other poll sux dont post anything and let it dies | ||
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rz
Lithuania2 Posts
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thelucas
Slovakia285 Posts
Boxer has big balls to do it 3 times in a row. I will call him mr. BigBalls | ||
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Elvin_vn
Vietnam2038 Posts
On November 12 2004 15:55 kCiNNiCk wrote: Pretty pathetic...I was looking forward to all of these, so was everyone else. The fact he can cheese all 3 games and be a n00b sending 2 marines and 5 scv's is just pathetic. It also shows that BW needs to have a new patch bringing SCV health down from 60 to 50, or maybe 40. Dissapointed... the thing is SCV has cool down of 15 while drone/probe has cool down of 22 | ||
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drc
Finland261 Posts
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Geval
788 Posts
On November 13 2004 14:09 Elvin_vn wrote: the thing is SCV has cool down of 15 while drone/probe has cool down of 22 What is the cool down thing? | ||
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Elvin_vn
Vietnam2038 Posts
Time between attacks :O I thought this is basic stuff. | ||
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AMDme
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On November 12 2004 22:55 Yautja wrote: Legionnaire ur in no position to judge him ! U are a nobody and he is the Emperor , most popular progamer in korea , most popular gamer of all time , winner of countless tournaments wich includes two StarLeagues ! Ban me , kick me , i dont care but no matter what Boxer did or will do from now on is great ! To win a OSL semi-final in 15 minutes against Yellow is fantastic and everybody talks about it so it shocked the worldwide broodwar community again with his game ! Any Terran player is using what Boxer invented with small personal adjustments ! He is a gaming God end of story ! Nice poll by the way ! U really are sucky-noobish-lame gamers with no respect for the work of other people ! By the way Legionnaire when u come up with some new broodwar strat or win anything mail me so i can kill myself ! This is a perfect example of a boxer fanboy gone bad -.- This kind of person would be bitching if yellow had "cheesed" and won 3-0. This person is a hypicrite. | ||
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TheSlowHand
Korea (South)177 Posts
If you were expecting entertainment, go watch WWE. | ||
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sushiman
Sweden2691 Posts
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sacrificetheory
United States98 Posts
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Geval
788 Posts
On November 13 2004 15:20 Elvin_vn wrote: Time between attacks :O I thought this is basic stuff. :O thats why my 40ph probe loses to 35ph SCV..... and it wasnt an accident | ||
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name
1 Post
for example, if i want to know ppl's opinion about Legionnaire, i can start a poll like: "Is Legionnaire a bitch? choise 1:yes, choise 2:no" or i can start it like: "What u think about Legionnaire? choise 1:angel, choise 2:bitch". which poll is better? of course the 2nd, because the poll itself doesn't show any bias. | ||
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on.sp33d
134 Posts
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cav
Pitcairn514 Posts
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Geval
788 Posts
On November 13 2004 22:39 name wrote: i think Legionnaire's poll is not as nice as he thinks. yes, attention is very important for a poll. but fairness is the key. for example, if i want to know ppl's opinion about Legionnaire, i can start a poll like: "Is Legionnaire a bitch? choise 1:yes, choise 2:no" or i can start it like: "What u think about Legionnaire? choise 1:angel, choise 2:bitch". which poll is better? of course the 2nd, because the poll itself doesn't show any bias. Agreed, the poll should be more like "pancy/nothing changed/I love him even more" but anyway if did the job. The majority support Boxer and thats count. | ||
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Geval
788 Posts
On November 13 2004 23:47 cav wrote: he could have gave him real games for games 3 and 4, then just did that gay rush again on pelennor for game 5. there should be an option "boxer and yellow are both pussies" But the game would not go to the history.... and or even if it would me another Boxer vs Yellow serie | ||
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