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flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
February 01 2011 08:17 GMT
#21
On February 01 2011 17:10 corumjhaelen wrote:
I would have placed Jaedong higher, and Fantasy lower, cause seriously, the only thing he has done well was his serie against Stork (great play against a psychologically weakened Stork unable to adapt).
His play against Clam should score negative points, I still can't forgive him for that.
I'd have gone with Jaedong/Flash Stork Bisu Fanta I guess.
Can't really blame you though^^

Ahh I wish Ver were here. I actually forgot to quote Ver, but Ver really wanted me to put Fantasy at rank 1 before the SKT-KHAN match.

(5:47:04 AM) Ver uh
(5:47:07 AM) Ver fantasy #1 obviously

Just throwin' the name out there^^
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
February 01 2011 08:19 GMT
#22
I guess StylishVOD-s and Holgerius must feel as if their lobbying paid off. :D
+ Show Spoiler +
I kid, I kid, I agree with the placing.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8091 Posts
February 01 2011 08:22 GMT
#23
i feel like JD should be higher but then im pretty used to JD getting under-ranked in the PR lol

its hard to argue the top 5 very well, but it just feels weird having someone knocked out in the Ro32 and Ro16 go back to #1 so soon.
Free Palestine
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
February 01 2011 08:28 GMT
#24
On February 01 2011 17:17 flamewheel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2011 17:10 corumjhaelen wrote:
I would have placed Jaedong higher, and Fantasy lower, cause seriously, the only thing he has done well was his serie against Stork (great play against a psychologically weakened Stork unable to adapt).
His play against Clam should score negative points, I still can't forgive him for that.
I'd have gone with Jaedong/Flash Stork Bisu Fanta I guess.
Can't really blame you though^^

Ahh I wish Ver were here. I actually forgot to quote Ver, but Ver really wanted me to put Fantasy at rank 1 before the SKT-KHAN match.

Show nested quote +
(5:47:04 AM) Ver uh
(5:47:07 AM) Ver fantasy #1 obviously

Just throwin' the name out there^^

Ok, ok, I completely agree with Fanta placement then :p
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
Assymptotic
Profile Joined February 2009
United States552 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-01 08:31:18
February 01 2011 08:29 GMT
#25
As a bigger Bisu fan than a Stork fan, I'm pleased with your placement of the two. I agree completely with your justifications.
So close, and yet so far
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
February 01 2011 08:35 GMT
#26
Everyone knew that no matter what, few would fully agree with the rank. Because of that, you are probably going to get lot less hate than you otherwise would by just offsetting one popular player by a single spot most other moths, even from people who do not agree with the top 5 at all. So that's cool.

Anyway, good PR. I feel Jaedong is underestimated, but it's still fully understandable that he is where he is. Huge props for realizing Stork is still better than Bisu.
Elefanto
Profile Joined May 2010
Switzerland3584 Posts
February 01 2011 08:41 GMT
#27
Was a difficult time this month, but i think i can live with it.
Personally i wanted bisu higher, but flash #1 is acceptable (although i don't like flash -_-)
He just has the biggest aura, he's the favorite against everyone.
Fantasy played a spectacular OSL final, other than that, he didn't do much.
Still, he won the OSL in a 3-0 fashion against the best TvPer, justified.

Stork over Bisu, wellllllllllll, if you compare head to head, storks higher, but overall
"power" display right now, bisu seems hotter.

Jaedong 5 and hydra 6 i agree with.

Good PR after such a month, where many players showed us amazing starcraft.
wat
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
February 01 2011 08:43 GMT
#28
On February 01 2011 17:41 Elefanto wrote:
Was a difficult time this month, but i think i can live with it.
Personally i wanted bisu higher, but flash #1 is acceptable (although i don't like flash -_-)
He just has the biggest aura, he's the favorite against everyone.
Fantasy played a spectacular OSL final, other than that, he didn't do much.
Still, he won the OSL in a 3-0 fashion against the best TvPer, justified.

Stork over Bisu, wellllllllllll, if you compare head to head, storks higher, but overall
"power" display right now, bisu seems hotter.

Jaedong 5 and hydra 6 i agree with.

Good PR after such a month, where many players showed us amazing starcraft.

How so? =/ Similiar WL record and a heavily slanted head to head record in favor of Stork..
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
February 01 2011 08:47 GMT
#29
I agree with most of this. I think Fantasy is a little high, I mean he played well against Stork and clenched the OSL but I don't think he's the second best player on Brood War. Honestly, I was expecting Fantasy to be #5 this week...

Still, great PR and as a Bisu fanboy I'm just glad that he's still staying pretty consistent.
mnesthes
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
5433 Posts
February 01 2011 08:47 GMT
#30
Woohoo! Power Rank out even before Kespa rank!
<+LighTofHeaveN> Ppl call this "Indigo Children"
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4838 Posts
February 01 2011 09:08 GMT
#31
On February 01 2011 17:43 ShadeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2011 17:41 Elefanto wrote:
Was a difficult time this month, but i think i can live with it.
Personally i wanted bisu higher, but flash #1 is acceptable (although i don't like flash -_-)
He just has the biggest aura, he's the favorite against everyone.
Fantasy played a spectacular OSL final, other than that, he didn't do much.
Still, he won the OSL in a 3-0 fashion against the best TvPer, justified.

Stork over Bisu, wellllllllllll, if you compare head to head, storks higher, but overall
"power" display right now, bisu seems hotter.

Jaedong 5 and hydra 6 i agree with.

Good PR after such a month, where many players showed us amazing starcraft.

How so? =/ Similiar WL record and a heavily slanted head to head record in favor of Stork..

Some folks are penalizing Stork for losing 0-3 in two Bo5s instead of rewarding him for reaching those Bo5s. I agree that isn't fair.
My strategy is to fork people.
Evs
Profile Joined December 2008
Philippines330 Posts
February 01 2011 09:14 GMT
#32
Not a fan of how the quantifier for ranking changed (hotness > achievements) just so Flash comes up ahead of Fantasy this month.

On the term "hotness"
Flash is pretty hot in WL because he has an amazing winning record right now. On the other hand
no player managed to knock out Fantasy in an entire league (OSL). Isn't that considered being "hot" in its own right? Isn't a string of victories in BoX's equally valuable to a string of BO1? Heck I'd say Fantasy's run is more valuable since it resulted in an actual gold medal.

Why is being hot in one league suddenly favored over the other? Sorry if I question you so much on this but I have a feeling that had it been any of the TaekBang LeeSang who had won a league then they wouldn't have been ranked under a player who only has proleague wins to show. (Even if they did show average WL performance)
Faraday
Profile Joined April 2009
United States553 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-01 09:18:11
February 01 2011 09:17 GMT
#33
Wow a Power Rank I can agree with completely....! Well done!
what happened, happened...
SirKibbleX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States479 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-01 09:36:56
February 01 2011 09:20 GMT
#34
I guess my personal power rank did better than expected!

http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=189057

Take that, haters. But seriously thouoh, flame, your writeups are always so impressive and your defense of your claims always sound! Great job!
Praemonitus, Praemunitus.
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
February 01 2011 09:25 GMT
#35
On February 01 2011 18:14 Evs wrote:
Why is being hot in one league suddenly favored over the other? Sorry if I question you so much on this but I have a feeling that had it been any of the TaekBang LeeSang who had won a league then they wouldn't have been ranked under a player who only has proleague wins to show. (Even if they did show average WL performance)


Maybe not. But that's because they didn't suck last month. Jumping from not being on the PR to #2 is almost unprecedented, and its not the first time someone who won a starleague isn't #1 either. Fantasy's achievement in the OSL is very well represented on this PR imo.
Goragoth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
New Zealand1065 Posts
February 01 2011 09:27 GMT
#36
First up, props for giving ZerO a reasonably high spot, loved his play this month (in his good games). He deserves some recognition for his great series against Stork and for taking down Flash.

Secondly, I feel like Jaedong has been getting criticised for "losing his edge" almost since the time he first burst onto the scene, so I'm not too worried. He always has some great stretches and then some merely good ones (and only very rarely bad).

I don't think that the quality of opponents that Flash faced this month was much higher than Bisu on the whole, but that's always debatable. I think people are discounting his Zerg opponents entirely although he won against players with traditionally very strong ZvP, even if their other match-ups aren't so strong (Calm, Shine, Hero). Overall I think their records are very similar and I would have liked to see them together on the rank (either Flash/Bisu or Bisu/Flash, it's too close to call). Placing Flash first based on his WL play and then having Bisu all the way in 4th place seems really odd to me. Seeing them 1st and 2nd would have been okay, or seeing both further down would be fine too but whatever. I know it's a tough call.

I'm pretty happy all of the bottom 5 spots, looks spot on (better than last month, where Hogil should never have had a place in my opinion).
Creator of LoLTool.
Demand2k
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Norway875 Posts
February 01 2011 09:38 GMT
#37
Very nice PR, good arguments too
Hope you're here to stay for a long time, flamewheel!
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
February 01 2011 09:39 GMT
#38
So for this month, Fantasy is the kid in the class that doesn't do so well on these pop quizzes, but managed to study and study and study to ace the test. As such, what would his grade be? I wish I knew--if percentages were easy to assign, this Power Rank would be so much easier to write.


Actually, fantasy's win rate in team leagues went from 59% to 65% when matchups started getting assigned the day of the match (and thus he was no longer able to prepare for them).
Scaramanga
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia8090 Posts
February 01 2011 09:57 GMT
#39
Sweet rank, thanks flamewheel
Loda talked about the fun counter, it's AdmiralBulldog on his natures prophet
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-01 11:10:12
February 01 2011 11:00 GMT
#40
Good morning. Ah great the new PR is here!
I like it, and I think it's fairly accurate to the situation.
One thing I'd change is dropping fantasy abit more. He came from not even CBNC and most likely will drop several spots again next rank, he just doesn't seem to fit the #2 PR profile in terms of power.

Flash is the favourite to win over anyone, even stork, and he did show in january that he is still the same Flash he was 2010.
So even though you might fault him for his lack of achievements you cannot really be that dissapointed to see him at first spot.

As is shown from todays WL games(and the skt1 vs khan), bisu have trouble going against the other top players on PR and fantasy's PR will most likely drophard next month.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
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