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NuKedUFirst
Canada3139 Posts
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Raelcun
United States3747 Posts
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
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hacpee
United States752 Posts
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36374 Posts
On August 31 2010 09:57 hacpee wrote: I can't believe they forgot about the GSL. Nobody "forgot" about GSL, it just hasn't really started. There have been no streams or detailed information, so it's probably not fair to put it in the poll until users can actually see the games and quality of coverage. We'll have another poll later during or after GSL. | ||
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Vokasak
United States388 Posts
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
On August 31 2010 10:07 Vokasak wrote: IEM had our beloved Day9. oh wow | ||
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chekthehek
United States279 Posts
even though the times were quite early | ||
Antoine
United States7481 Posts
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Vokasak
United States388 Posts
I should have been more specific. It had MORE Day9 and less what I would call "filler" casters. Like personally I find HD a bit hard to listen to. | ||
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DMXD
United States4064 Posts
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
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deo1
United States199 Posts
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CScythe
Canada810 Posts
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Al Bundy
7257 Posts
1. I loved the casters, and the mixing of the two casting teams, really nice to see Day[9] and HD side by side. 2. I like the fact that it was open because to me that is one the BEST opportunities for unknown players to really shine and make a name for themselves. 3. Compared to the IEM , the MLG organization and setup was much better quality overall, and I wanted to emphasize on the stream's excellent quality: free, visually pleasant to watch and above all, free of lag. I live in France which is really close to Germany but the IEM stream was kind of awful compared to MLG's. | ||
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Nutrimentia
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Taekwon
United States8155 Posts
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scottyyy
United Kingdom796 Posts
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Ascorius
Norway275 Posts
And I see several people seeing MLG as more professional and less drawn out etc. I think it was the exact opposite. In MLG they always had problems getting players into games, so there were alot of awkward pauses... the casters never really knew what was going on, and the games they chose to cast always seemed pretty random. Overall IEM was more streamlined, and the coverage with the players was alot more interesting. | ||
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Rinrun
Canada3509 Posts
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celious
United States195 Posts
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Jonoman92
United States9103 Posts
Didn't vote, but I had to pick I'd pick MLG though because IEM streams always happened while I was asleep. | ||
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sNes.
United States377 Posts
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Highways
Australia6103 Posts
Better crowd, better players and more exciting matches. | ||
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Monokeros
United States2493 Posts
On August 31 2010 10:14 Vokasak wrote: I should have been more specific. It had MORE Day9 and less what I would call "filler" casters. Like personally I find HD a bit hard to listen to. My list goes Husky < HD < That one guy who looked like Sean < Day[9] < BiggerT you can't beat BiggerT | ||
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Butcherski
Poland446 Posts
On August 31 2010 11:36 Highways wrote: IEM Better crowd, better players and more exciting matches. This + player interviews is what made IEM so much better. | ||
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InToTheWannaB
United States4770 Posts
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captainwaffles
United States1050 Posts
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JWD
United States12607 Posts
Both tourneys were really enjoyable though and generally well-run. Good sign for future of SC2 outside of Korea! | ||
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Ichabod
United States1659 Posts
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
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firalol
United States51 Posts
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Telcontar
United Kingdom16710 Posts
, good zerg showing.MLG: Variety of casters, better crowd / atmosphere, socke vs drewbie, return of the toss and of course the first glimpse of the HuK pillows. all in all, both were great for SC2 and esports in general. edit: i forgot day9's troll face. | ||
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deL
Australia5540 Posts
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Grobyc
Canada18410 Posts
On August 31 2010 11:45 Monokeros wrote: My list goes Husky < HD < That one guy who looked like Sean < Day[9] < BiggerT you can't beat BiggerT I believe BiggerT noted that shit would get unreal of BiggestT arrived, so I'm not sure if I agree with you on that one. | ||
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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
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Ownos
United States2147 Posts
On August 31 2010 10:14 Vokasak wrote: I should have been more specific. It had MORE Day9 and less what I would call "filler" casters. Like personally I find HD a bit hard to listen to. oh god | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
On August 31 2010 10:33 Nutrimentia wrote: Yep! And HDH1 still. The main reason is probably the timing of the schedules. It's more exciting to have just a couple of matches per day. Then analyze the results deeply, theorize possibilities, make polls for the expectations etc etc. The hype grows and grows and grows. The semi-finals and finals of such events were way more exciting and memorable. IEM and MLG may have had better rosters, better prize pool, better stream quality, live audience, better commentary, even better games - but they are mass events, done very fast, as part of a bigger event machine, and it's not the same.King of the Beta? Between IEM and MLG, I vote IEM>MLG, because the upper/lower bracket system, used in MLG, is a bit annoying, and reduces the clarity of value throughout the event. However, I suspect MLG has been the most fun for the participants / visitors, who were there. If I was one of the players I would have enjoyed this kind of event probably more. | ||
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Entropic
Canada2837 Posts
On August 31 2010 12:57 Grobyc wrote: Gonna have to said MLG. Canada fighting! I believe BiggerT noted that shit would get unreal of BiggestT arrived, so I'm not sure if I agree with you on that one. The day BiggestT comes around, shit will get real indeed. Still awaiting a Chill+Day9 casting combo (like TSL2). | ||
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Blaxe
Germany16 Posts
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3FFA
United States3931 Posts
wait... why are we cheering for the one that has been making our days boring same old same old again? Thats how I felt during IEM. I actually stopped watching after half of the vods of just seeing reapers being used. Plus I <3 HD and Husky  | ||
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Titusmaster6
United States5937 Posts
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Erzz
Canada184 Posts
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Musoeun
United States4324 Posts
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sas01
Canada303 Posts
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kojinshugi
Estonia2559 Posts
On August 31 2010 14:11 sas01 wrote: IEM had the booth babes so they get my vote I don't see what the appeal of skinny nerds looking awkward next to paid models in short shorts feigning interest in the event is, but to each their own I guess. IEM had better players and less toss. MLG was better hosted, but there was a lot of downtime. So I voted IEM. | ||
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Wolf
Korea (South)3290 Posts
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ShadowDrgn
United States2497 Posts
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bakesale
United States187 Posts
1. Videos were in regular Flash 2. Videos were made immediately available for those who didn't catch live casts 3. IEM announcer switched from talking English to shouting in German (gave me a laugh each time) | ||
GTR
51446 Posts
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FragKrag
United States11552 Posts
MLG was fucking amazing as well though, and probably had the better quality games IMO. | ||
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Xerrea
Denmark41 Posts
On August 31 2010 10:13 Antoine wrote: I picked mlg because the free stream was much much higher quality wtf? who cares about the free stream? just buy the HQ stream to support Esport. i bought the HQ to MLG but i didn't have the time to watch it (saw abit ofc) | ||
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Sprouter
United States1724 Posts
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Gackt_
335 Posts
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OnFire
324 Posts
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Piski
Finland3461 Posts
Also it had more familiar players to mee as they were a lot more europeans | ||
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zul
Germany5427 Posts
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Keitzer
United States2509 Posts
On August 31 2010 11:45 Monokeros wrote: My list goes Husky < HD < That one guy who looked like Sean < Day[9] < BiggerT you can't beat BiggerT lawl... BiggerT ftw. edit: on topic... IEM had better games and was a lot more exciting ... idk why, but it just was | ||
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Merikh
United States918 Posts
ESL it is, got to love Dennis lol | ||
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FaCE_1
Canada6172 Posts
Side note, I can't wait for HDH2 | ||
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Nightmarjoo
United States3360 Posts
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Fimbulwinter
United States24 Posts
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Arnu
Canada96 Posts
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FlashIsHigh
United States474 Posts
On August 31 2010 10:07 Vokasak wrote: IEM had our beloved Day9. So did MLG...... lol | ||
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mcneebs
Canada391 Posts
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TheZentry
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But i voted for IEM. | ||
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Koukalaka
United Kingdom80 Posts
In terms of perks, IEM had Take which obviously made the event, it felt much more of a spectacle and an event in comparison to MLG, which just felt like another online tournament with no sense of interaction with players and the crowd. MLG's free stream was better, but IEM's high quality stream was worth their price easily and easily better/on par with the MLG "HD" stream. I disliked having to have random caster's at MLG, although at IEM it was a choice between high quality stream or Day[9], where I could pick my favorite commentator, at MLG I was forced to endure commentator's I personally don't like so much, and more so with bad observer work, at IEM most of the action was never missed whereas loads of action was missed at MLG, which is always frustrating as a spectator. | ||
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QueueQueue
Canada1000 Posts
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Yurie
11822 Posts
1. Time zones. 2. Games, IEM just had more fun games that I watched. That and watching 2 streams from them increased the chance of a good game by a lot. Basically I feel IEM lucked out and was better due to that. ^^ | ||
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Gaxton
Sweden2328 Posts
Worst part about MLG was the first day when they showed gold/platinum level players on the stream insteard of matches like NonY vs InControl </3 | ||
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NukeTheBunnys
United States1004 Posts
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Enth
Sweden5 Posts
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StarStruck
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
Nothing really to do with the organization of either event. | ||
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
MLG: Much better detailed, longer running(a + for me), more FUN(Casters doing random shit \m/ ) more Drama and upsets(good players getting KO'ed) ect they both had their pros and cons i think, but overall i enjoyed IEM more, but that's not to say MLG wasn't a blast to watch | ||
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Noxie
United States2227 Posts
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Vykenos
United States56 Posts
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Klive5ive
United Kingdom6056 Posts
MLG was better in other aspects; better interviews, more shots of the players enviroment, better atmosphere (no pathetic rapper/kids jumping for T-shirts). For me watching the stream though the better quality games/casting matter the most. | ||
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Jameser
Sweden951 Posts
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Gnial
Canada907 Posts
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houck
United Kingdom102 Posts
I like MLG cos HuK was playing better I'm a fan. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.somethingaintright.com/Images/room%20fan.jpg) lol, wasn't IEM HuK's first LAN tourny? so doesn't that make MLG his 2nd? | ||
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Aikin
Austria532 Posts
Also I knew/liked the playerpool at IEM better and the post game interviews where just godlike. And the crowd was awesome, and Dimaga! | ||
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my0s
United States193 Posts
For a variety of reasons, which I suppose I will list on the off chance that a tournament host ends up reading this thread. 1) The Casting IEM had Day[9] casting the entire event which is about as ideal as it gets. Also his co-caster for the event was moderately well spoken and had relevant things to say, but also was aware enough to let Day9 set the pace and take the lead casting role, as lets face it...its whats expected. The MLG caster shuffle was ok at first, but eventually the novelty wore of and I personally found myself disinterested in a lot of games HD/Husky casted. Don't get me wrong I think they are good guys and doing an amazing job for the community with their VODs and media, but just overall lack the depth and high level commentary required to cast these major events. ( sorry )2) The Games IEM had the stronger lineup and overall just more exciting games. Thats not really something that can be controlled, but its just how it worked out. Also the quality of casting contributes to this in indirect ways. 3) The Event IEM felt very big and exciting. There was great shots of the players, the stage, and the event. MLG focused heavily on the casters, lacked a real stage, and just overall had a "local lan" feel to it. 4) Coverage This is probably the only place MLG came out on top. Great quality free stream with great bandwidth and the option to even upgrade to HD. Very well done by MLG, props. Thats about it. Overall both events were great and very exciting to watch and im thankful for both events. | ||
Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
On September 01 2010 01:31 my0s wrote: Id have to say IEM. For a variety of reasons, which I suppose I will list on the off chance that a tournament host ends up reading this thread. 1) The Casting IEM had Day[9] casting the entire event which is about as ideal as it gets. Also his co-caster for the event was moderately well spoken and had relevant things to say, but also was aware enough to let Day9 set the pace and take the lead casting role, as lets face it...its whats expected. The MLG caster shuffle was ok at first, but eventually the novelty wore of and I personally found myself disinterested in a lot of games HD/Husky casted. Don't get me wrong I think they are good guys and doing an amazing job for the community with their VODs and media, but just overall lack the depth and high level commentary required to cast these major events. ( sorry )2) The Games IEM had the stronger lineup and overall just more exciting games. Thats not really something that can be controlled, but its just how it worked out. Also the quality of casting contributes to this in indirect ways. 3) The Event IEM felt very big and exciting. There was great shots of the players, the stage, and the event. MLG focused heavily on the casters, lacked a real stage, and just overall had a "local lan" feel to it. 4) Coverage This is probably the only place MLG came out on top. Great quality free stream with great bandwidth and the option to even upgrade to HD. Very well done by MLG, props. Thats about it. Overall both events were great and very exciting to watch and im thankful for both events. Couldnt have said it better myself | ||
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sleepytime
Denmark122 Posts
On August 31 2010 10:07 Vokasak wrote: IEM had our beloved Day9. so did MLG | ||
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darr3n
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hadoken5
Canada519 Posts
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NexUmbra
Scotland3776 Posts
On August 31 2010 10:10 chekthehek wrote: iem was a lot better in my opinion. streams were better, games were better, casters were better, and it was really enjoyable to watch, especially when they had an interview after EVERY game even though the times were quite early Pretty much agree with all this :/ | ||
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Elevenst
Canada249 Posts
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FliedLice
Germany7494 Posts
On September 01 2010 02:06 darr3n wrote: IEM. why? because I was there one day! this. also i have no clue about the american sc2 scene | ||
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Therapist..
United States57 Posts
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xilaratu
United States233 Posts
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Twaxter
Canada190 Posts
at the IEM, just 5 rax reaper ,were the finals. and at the MLG, poor slush kicked out early, and were left for a mirror match up. I'd like the IEM a tad better. | ||
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ZaaaaaM
Netherlands1828 Posts
On August 31 2010 10:10 chekthehek wrote: iem was a lot better in my opinion. streams were better, games were better, casters were better, and it was really enjoyable to watch, especially when they had an interview after EVERY game even though the times were quite early Can't agree more, well- times were no problem here in europe | ||
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AgentMulder
United States54 Posts
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Marou
Germany1371 Posts
Althrough MLG stream was far better quality and appeared to run much smoothly. | ||
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Klapdout
United States282 Posts
Watching the crowd behind the casters, and all the stage shots also made the event feel more exciting. Plus the quake live matches were amazing, and I ended up liking them more than SC2's games. | ||
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Xerrea
Denmark41 Posts
On September 01 2010 01:31 my0s wrote: 4) Coverage This is probably the only place MLG came out on top. Great quality free stream with great bandwidth and the option to even upgrade to HD. Very well done by MLG, props. you know.. you could also upgrade the IEM stream to HD! MLG didn't have as much Day9 as IEM had | ||
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QQmore
Sweden12 Posts
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Kralic
Canada2628 Posts
Last but not least the ask the caster thread MLG always does is awesome + the day9 attempt at standup. | ||
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Madawc
Sweden36 Posts
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Geniuszerg
Canada454 Posts
tho nada was pretty up there cept he had to leave | ||
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YunhOLee
Canada2470 Posts
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Dionyseus
United States2068 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
IEM has better games and casting imo things seemed smoother etc. MLG just had better quality streams which really helps i mean the stuttering on the IEM and poor quality hurts but nothing quite breaking and at the end of the day it's about the players and the casters not how good you can view them. | ||
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Poobah
England91 Posts
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Stuv
Netherlands942 Posts
On August 31 2010 16:04 GTR wrote: IEM had a Denis that MLG didn't. Exactly _O_ | ||
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harenzo
United Kingdom36 Posts
IEM had the better games streamed, which I suppose it was to be expected with 16 invitees only compared to MLG's 64 with open signups. | ||
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harenzo
United Kingdom36 Posts
On September 01 2010 07:40 Poobah wrote: IEM, because I could actually watch it live since it was in Europe. I missed most of the MLG matches because of the time difference, alas. Friday's times were quite bad for EU but Saturday's midday start was fine imo. | ||
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Art_of_Kill
Zaire1232 Posts
not only had iem way way way better player, it had awesome dennis, for some funny interview | ||
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Rakasha
Canada71 Posts
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Tazza
Korea (South)1678 Posts
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Bear4188
United States1797 Posts
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jax1492
United States1632 Posts
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Takkara
United States2503 Posts
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groms
Canada1017 Posts
IEM had NaDa play in a showmatch vs TLO. nuff said. | ||
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SichuanPanda
Canada1542 Posts
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
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Spiffeh
United States830 Posts
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beradical
United States38 Posts
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