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revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
September 11 2010 12:44 GMT
#1101
On September 11 2010 21:42 Holgerius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 21:41 KristianJS wrote:
Justification for the no.1 rank can be made with a single word this time

Yup. It's official now.


I'm torn between wanting to open up PR thread and read just simply "Bonjwa" but at the same time I'll miss the paragraphs of how awesome Flash is. =/
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
September 11 2010 12:45 GMT
#1102
And this time last season all the CJ fan-staff were calling the bonjwa debate "over." Heh.
Remember Violet.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
September 11 2010 12:46 GMT
#1103
Does anyone else find it ironic that the fight for the title of bonjwa is decided by a series of 3 cheese games?
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
September 11 2010 12:47 GMT
#1104
On September 11 2010 21:35 Holgerius wrote:
I actually feel a little bad for JD. Losing three finals in a row to Flash like this might just break him. I want Flash to rule, but from now on I'd be happy if they could win one Starleague each every season so the rivalry lives on. Flash has pretty much dominated JD since his reign as bonjwa started in October last year.


Well to be fair, Jaedong did win Nate MSL under pretty bad maps (original odd-eye, ultimatum ...) even with the power outage I don't like taking things away from the winner (unless you're Effort; I really hate Effort). His win against Movie was also pretty much a gimme.

The last two seasons of Flash though have been the most impressive in the history of BW. Winning against the greatest zerg ever three straight times and going up 2-0 on Effort. It's unbelievable.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
September 11 2010 12:48 GMT
#1105
On September 11 2010 21:46 Lightwip wrote:
Does anyone else find it ironic that the fight for the title of bonjwa is decided by a series of 3 cheese games?


Poetic, really.
Remember Violet.
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
September 11 2010 12:48 GMT
#1106
On September 11 2010 21:46 Lightwip wrote:
Does anyone else find it ironic that the fight for the title of bonjwa is decided by a series of 3 cheese games?


Good point! Boxer's triple bunker rush. Flash JD triple cheese fight. That would be irony for you.
ChaosSmurf
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United Kingdom175 Posts
September 11 2010 13:07 GMT
#1107
Plexa I'll pay you $5,000 to put Jaedong at #1 and Flash at #2 and somehow justify it.
okum
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France5778 Posts
September 11 2010 13:09 GMT
#1108
Sometimes I almost start to feel sorry for Jaedong, that Flash is dominating too much. But then I recall 2009 and those feelings go away.
Flash fan before it was cool | Coiner of "jangbang"
ColdLava
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Canada1673 Posts
September 11 2010 13:09 GMT
#1109
I believe Jaedong should get #1 in power rank. His dominant wins over Flash in WCG were outstanding.
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
September 11 2010 13:22 GMT
#1110
Flash is a bonjwa.
Forever the best, IMMvp <3
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
September 11 2010 13:26 GMT
#1111
On September 11 2010 21:46 Lightwip wrote:
Does anyone else find it ironic that the fight for the title of bonjwa is decided by a series of 3 cheese games?


That's a bit of an oversimplification. Yes, in the end it comes down to a bunch of razor-thin things. But, to even be in the conversation you need to put yourself in the POSITION for that to even be possible.

Virtually every great sports dynasty had a ton of close calls. A lot of games decided by one point or one play or one lucky bounce. It's why they say "you make your own luck" - you gotta be in position to take advantage of it when it happens. No matter how lucky you are you can't be bonjwa if you don't just win a lot of games first.
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
September 11 2010 13:29 GMT
#1112
On September 11 2010 22:26 darktreb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 21:46 Lightwip wrote:
Does anyone else find it ironic that the fight for the title of bonjwa is decided by a series of 3 cheese games?


That's a bit of an oversimplification. Yes, in the end it comes down to a bunch of razor-thin things. But, to even be in the conversation you need to put yourself in the POSITION for that to even be possible.

Virtually every great sports dynasty had a ton of close calls. A lot of games decided by one point or one play or one lucky bounce. It's why they say "you make your own luck" - you gotta be in position to take advantage of it when it happens. No matter how lucky you are you can't be bonjwa if you don't just win a lot of games first.


I believe he's referencing 3x Bunker Rush Boxer v Yellow. I don't believe he's trying to demean Flash's accomplishment.
darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3016 Posts
September 11 2010 13:30 GMT
#1113
On September 11 2010 22:29 revy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 11 2010 22:26 darktreb wrote:
On September 11 2010 21:46 Lightwip wrote:
Does anyone else find it ironic that the fight for the title of bonjwa is decided by a series of 3 cheese games?


That's a bit of an oversimplification. Yes, in the end it comes down to a bunch of razor-thin things. But, to even be in the conversation you need to put yourself in the POSITION for that to even be possible.

Virtually every great sports dynasty had a ton of close calls. A lot of games decided by one point or one play or one lucky bounce. It's why they say "you make your own luck" - you gotta be in position to take advantage of it when it happens. No matter how lucky you are you can't be bonjwa if you don't just win a lot of games first.


I believe he's referencing 3x Bunker Rush Boxer v Yellow. I don't believe he's trying to demean Flash's accomplishment.


I suppose you're right, though I personally don't consider that ironic so much as an interesting coincidence, or fitting.
fallingdream
Profile Joined December 2004
Romania452 Posts
September 11 2010 14:00 GMT
#1114
Why do some Flash fans feel bad about jd? I don't. I hope he qualifies again for MSL and OSL and lose again, over and over and over and over... well you understand.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4722 Posts
September 11 2010 14:12 GMT
#1115
On September 11 2010 23:00 fallingdream wrote:
Why do some Flash fans feel bad about jd? I don't. I hope he qualifies again for MSL and OSL and lose again, over and over and over and over... well you understand.


You are such a nice person.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4722 Posts
September 11 2010 14:22 GMT
#1116
I bow in awe before you FlaSh. This year you truly have defeated the game and achieved, what only fools really thought was possible. You showed that you are the best at this game and overtook Jaedong within only one year, how is that even possible.


I am sure there will be another year of Brood War to come and although I cannot believe this kind of domination will continue, who am I to doubt this force of nature.


As a die hard Jaedong fan of course I feel sad, but really, Jaedong doesn't need us to feel sorry for him. He is a living legend, has five titles and is the best zerg ever. It's just that sometimes someone comes along and is just better than you. And who says this rivalry is over, next year everything could be different again.


PS: If anyone thought these finals were disappointing because of all the cheese, I don't know what to tell you. You people probably are very hard to please. I was sweating excitement.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Fumi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
529 Posts
September 11 2010 14:34 GMT
#1117
OMG he did it!
Flash, Stats, Reach, Tossgirl <> Boxer, Nestea, MC, Foxer fangirl | http://osu.ppy.sh/u/181432
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
September 11 2010 14:36 GMT
#1118
I'm so damn hyped for the new PR.... Now that Flash took both finals it looks so incredibly awkward to still see Jaedong at the top of this one...
"[Lee Young Ho] With this victory, you’ve risen to Bonjwa status."
alypse
Profile Joined May 2010
2771 Posts
September 11 2010 15:20 GMT
#1119
On September 11 2010 23:22 Malinor wrote:
I bow in awe before you FlaSh. This year you truly have defeated the game and achieved, what only fools really thought was possible. You showed that you are the best at this game and overtook Jaedong within only one year, how is that even possible.


I am sure there will be another year of Brood War to come and although I cannot believe this kind of domination will continue, who am I to doubt this force of nature.


As a die hard Jaedong fan of course I feel sad, but really, Jaedong doesn't need us to feel sorry for him. He is a living legend, has five titles and is the best zerg ever. It's just that sometimes someone comes along and is just better than you. And who says this rivalry is over, next year everything could be different again.


PS: If anyone thought these finals were disappointing because of all the cheese, I don't know what to tell you. You people probably are very hard to please. I was sweating excitement.


Jaedong looked very calm and composed after the match. Personally I think what was inside him at that time was REVENGE, a burning determination to crush Flash in the next season/year. JD is not the type who drops out or gives up easily, he's gonna come back! He will try his best to get what he deserves. So yeah I think the rivalry definitely does not die. It lives and we will get to see what Jaedong's fury will bring. Go Jaedong and Flash.
KT Violet 1988 - 2012
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
September 11 2010 15:45 GMT
#1120
Some retrospectively funny quotes

One of the key reasons why Flash got dropped this month is because he's been solved.
...it appeared as though other Terrans knew how to beat Flash.
Sadly, Flash's TvZ let him down.

But I'm aware making a PR is a hard job, you've gotta do a lot of calls which could turn out totally false, so don't take those quotes as a criticism. Plexa also made some very good calls:

I expect Flash to make the finals of both leagues, again. Similarly, I expect Jaedong to make the finals of both leagues as well..

and
And hopefully, by the end of September, we'll be able to definitively answer the question - who is the greater player?

Well, it took couple days more, but hell yes we are, and without a shadow of a doubt!
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