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Power Rank 01/31/2010 - Page 15

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Katsuge
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Singapore7730 Posts
February 03 2010 08:14 GMT
#281
nothing beats power outtage imba
김태연 | 정은지 | 아이유 |  한효주 | 이민정 <3 -|||- 소녀시대 에이핑크 사랑해!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 03 2010 09:11 GMT
#282
On February 03 2010 15:31 TwoToneTerran wrote:
And so is a power outage that leaves only a 2-1 conclusively.

Well, to me it doesn't matter too much if Flash decides to hold on GGing for 20 seconds longer or not. Doesn't really change anything for me. Also, JD was winning in proleague before he forgot consume(same trend that was in game 2 in finals), so that's actually a pretty amazing thing(stupid mistakes easy to fix are a lot better way to lose games than just being outclassed normally because the mistakes can be polished off with a little bit of time and after that JD will just defeat Flash every game). You can choose to not believe players far better than you if you're blinded by your fanboyness, not my problem really.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
February 03 2010 09:47 GMT
#283
Or you can choose to get off your damn high horse and realize that it's not a clear cut month, no matter what side of the argument you're on.
Remember Violet.
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
February 03 2010 12:16 GMT
#284

Uh, wasn't that like exactly the point he was trying to make?
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
February 03 2010 13:16 GMT
#285
No effort? :O
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-03 13:48:14
February 03 2010 13:45 GMT
#286
On February 03 2010 21:16 Cpadolf wrote:

Uh, wasn't that like exactly the point he was trying to make?


He spent the entire post pointing out how right it is to think Jaedong should be #1, and how much of a better player Jaedong is, so any middle ground he proposed is a bit of a sham. And did so on top of being a dick about it ("you can choose to not believe players far better than you about it" and the blind fanboy garbage, despite the fact he can't apparently admit Flash, too, happens to be good at Starcraft).
Remember Violet.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
February 03 2010 14:03 GMT
#287
Leta all-kill, fuck yeah! I hope he can keep it up so he remains high on the PR next month as well.

Jaedong = Flash skillwise atm. Flash>Jaedong in terms of accomplishments this season, hence Flash at #1.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Lebesgue
Profile Joined October 2008
4542 Posts
February 03 2010 14:49 GMT
#288
On February 03 2010 12:41 Goragoth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2010 11:55 Lebesgue wrote:
On February 03 2010 10:25 Shikyo wrote:
And even with that, Jaedong still defeated Flash in a Bo5! On the most imbalanced maps since Arena MSL. All these things considered, even if the score was something like 3-3, hell, even 4-3 in the favor of Flash, I still would consider that a plus for Jaedong on his ability to overcome such map imbalance, in his weakest match-up, in a historically imbalanced match-up. It also helps that Jaedong's vP is far superior to that of Flash.



Regarding map imbalance:
On February 02 2010 02:30 roMAD wrote:
(T)Miracle's opinion on the maps:
Match Point: Z>T
Fighting Spirit: Z>T
Odd-Eye: T>Z
Ultimatum: T>Z


While it is certainly possible that this is true, I don't think that quoting a Terran on TvZ map imba is really valid. I'm sorry but I've followed what pros have said about maps and they always skew the imba so that it's against whatever race they play (not surprising). Find me a quote from any Zerg pro that any of the maps favour Zerg and it would have much more meaning.


Well, the same argument applies to Zerg players as well when they say T>Z on a particular map.

KnightOfNi
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1508 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-03 16:49:45
February 03 2010 16:49 GMT
#289
YES REALLY FINALLY GETS RECOGNIZED !!!!!! LETA/REALLY FIGHTING!!!!

Oh and Upmagic had a winning record a few months back, so he has had a career positive winrate in the past (and is right about at .500 right now).
RIP eSTRO :(
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-03 17:17:06
February 03 2010 17:12 GMT
#290
On February 03 2010 23:49 Lebesgue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2010 12:41 Goragoth wrote:
On February 03 2010 11:55 Lebesgue wrote:
On February 03 2010 10:25 Shikyo wrote:
And even with that, Jaedong still defeated Flash in a Bo5! On the most imbalanced maps since Arena MSL. All these things considered, even if the score was something like 3-3, hell, even 4-3 in the favor of Flash, I still would consider that a plus for Jaedong on his ability to overcome such map imbalance, in his weakest match-up, in a historically imbalanced match-up. It also helps that Jaedong's vP is far superior to that of Flash.



Regarding map imbalance:
On February 02 2010 02:30 roMAD wrote:
(T)Miracle's opinion on the maps:
Match Point: Z>T
Fighting Spirit: Z>T
Odd-Eye: T>Z
Ultimatum: T>Z


While it is certainly possible that this is true, I don't think that quoting a Terran on TvZ map imba is really valid. I'm sorry but I've followed what pros have said about maps and they always skew the imba so that it's against whatever race they play (not surprising). Find me a quote from any Zerg pro that any of the maps favour Zerg and it would have much more meaning.


Well, the same argument applies to Zerg players as well when they say T>Z on a particular map.


Oh I even missed this, but I believe that his statement can be translated to T > Z on MP T > Z on FS, T >>> Z on OE and T >>> Z on Ulti.

Fighting spirit is the most even imo, match point still seems to definitely favor terran if not for the harrassins possibilities which still aren't too amazing, and those 2 others are just ZvT graveyards.

On February 03 2010 22:45 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2010 21:16 Cpadolf wrote:

Uh, wasn't that like exactly the point he was trying to make?


He spent the entire post pointing out how right it is to think Jaedong should be #1, and how much of a better player Jaedong is, so any middle ground he proposed is a bit of a sham. And did so on top of being a dick about it ("you can choose to not believe players far better than you about it" and the blind fanboy garbage, despite the fact he can't apparently admit Flash, too, happens to be good at Starcraft).

? Look, I could put together a similiar post about Flash as I did about Jaedong. It doesn't have to be my opinion, but those are just reasons for why people who like that specific player might believe that JD deserves to be #1. What's hard to get? Have you never tought objectively without regarding your opinion on the matter?

And yes, I believe the players I was referring to are better than you, better than me as well.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
dnosrc
Profile Joined May 2009
Germany454 Posts
February 03 2010 19:54 GMT
#291
kinda funny that msl is suddenly more important than osl when jaedong wins it ...
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
February 03 2010 21:00 GMT
#292
On February 04 2010 04:54 dnosrc wrote:
kinda funny that msl is suddenly more important than osl when jaedong wins it ...


It isnt, beating super Flash in a bo5 on imba maps is.
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
February 03 2010 21:44 GMT
#293
"Oh I even missed this, but I believe that his statement can be translated to T > Z on MP T > Z on FS, T >>> Z on OE and T >>> Z on Ulti. "

what?

how can Z>T on matchpoint and fighting spirit be translated to T>Z on both.
im confused.

Miracle is right. Thats what i've been trying to say before romads post.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
haevd
Profile Joined November 2007
Korea (South)2 Posts
February 03 2010 23:21 GMT
#294
power outage? haha. very, very appropriate.
Starcraft fan since '99
DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
February 04 2010 00:10 GMT
#295
On February 04 2010 06:00 SuperArc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2010 04:54 dnosrc wrote:
kinda funny that msl is suddenly more important than osl when jaedong wins it ...


It isnt, beating super Flash in a bo5 on imba maps is.

+1
cw)minsean(ru
jakel
Profile Joined January 2010
36 Posts
February 04 2010 00:51 GMT
#296
Sorry for writing four posts I was being very stupid. However, my point remains. If we are to look at this month's games, Jaedong should be above flash. The author himself says that one of the reasons flash is over jaedong is because he feels that in another best of five Flash would win.

This completely misses the point. IN THE FUTURE, flash may win, but for now, Jaedong won. And instead of revealing his Flash fanboyism why not put Jaedong over Flash because right now, Jaedong deserves it.

Oh and which is more reliable? Map statistics, or two terrans regarding a map imbalance?
asdd
Jonten
Profile Joined April 2009
Sweden5 Posts
February 04 2010 01:49 GMT
#297
IMHO, let Shikyo and jakel do next months power rank!! Flash who? I think we will see Jaedong from spots 1-10! TBH he sure deserves it, I mean come on he totally outplayed all his opponents in all matches but falling on his own mistakes in the few matches he lost =(
slash (/ <---(slash)) Sarcasm

I must admit though that it's pretty amusing to read all the arguments for or against Jaedong/Flash as #1. The arguers are trying so desperately to display their point of views in a way to show that it's the only right view on the matter. At the same time they are trying to make their whole argue look so unbiased as possible. 15 pages argumentation, in only three days!?
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11552 Posts
February 04 2010 02:09 GMT
#298
On February 03 2010 22:16 SubtleArt wrote:
No effort? :O


EffOrt really hasn't done much recently has he? :/
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
February 04 2010 03:25 GMT
#299
On February 02 2010 12:33 70107 wrote:
What would this guy's Power Ranking be?

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I ask because I think he's a fucking truck. Fuck Boxer.



What? And why would you be stupid enough to randomly insult one of, if not the, greatest SC player of all time?
At least thats what I gather by your post.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 04 2010 10:58 GMT
#300
On February 04 2010 10:49 Jonten wrote:
IMHO, let Shikyo and jakel do next months power rank!! Flash who? I think we will see Jaedong from spots 1-10! TBH he sure deserves it, I mean come on he totally outplayed all his opponents in all matches but falling on his own mistakes in the few matches he lost =(
slash (/ <---(slash)) Sarcasm

I must admit though that it's pretty amusing to read all the arguments for or against Jaedong/Flash as #1. The arguers are trying so desperately to display their point of views in a way to show that it's the only right view on the matter. At the same time they are trying to make their whole argue look so unbiased as possible. 15 pages argumentation, in only three days!?

I can write a(n unofficial) power rank for next month.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
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