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On February 02 2010 05:00 4Servy wrote: These power rank comments are hilarious lol, I really enjoyed reading.
Nothing better than a good old troll war between people with no clue about the game or esports in general.
Plexa made this rank, this is what he thinks about the current top 10 players, and he states the reasons why he thinks so. Some people take this all way to serious, and go into useless troll wars about something that will always be subjective.
If you want a totaly objective rank, go watch the player elo chart, no emotions, no analyses just pure ruthless math based on win/lose ratio's and we all know nothing is more fair than that.
Why does Plexa get to have all the fun. Shit, I'll make my own power rankings and then there will be a real troll war.
;-)
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On February 02 2010 07:03 TwoToneTerran wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2010 06:36 cz wrote:On February 02 2010 06:35 TwoToneTerran wrote: I was sarcastically pointing it out. It is my thing. No, you don't like the fanboy back and forth and were thus legitimately complaining about it. If you had said "I love all the fanboy back and forth, it's terrific, please keep it up." that would be sarcasm. There isn't one way to do sarcasm? like, pointitively, I noticed the complaining infinite circle and intentionally added to it in a sarcastic manner to show the ridiculousness of it.
But you didn't add to it in a sarcastic manner. You are saying that simply adding to it in a normal manner is sarcasm: I've already shown that your addition, in isolation, is not sarcasm.
Adding to the complaining cycle with regular complaining is also not sarcasm. That would be parody. Your parodied the complaining by adding to it.
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Power rank is always a little inconsistent. Sometimes just the performance for the month is considered. Sometimes it's looked at in the longer context. Keeping in mind those inconsistencies, I'm ok with Flash over Jaedong. Although, winning an MSL dropping just 1 game is somewhat unprecedented. GOM doesn't count.
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On February 02 2010 09:06 70107 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2010 05:00 4Servy wrote: These power rank comments are hilarious lol, I really enjoyed reading.
Nothing better than a good old troll war between people with no clue about the game or esports in general.
Plexa made this rank, this is what he thinks about the current top 10 players, and he states the reasons why he thinks so. Some people take this all way to serious, and go into useless troll wars about something that will always be subjective.
If you want a totaly objective rank, go watch the player elo chart, no emotions, no analyses just pure ruthless math based on win/lose ratio's and we all know nothing is more fair than that. Why does Plexa get to have all the fun. Shit, I'll make my own power rankings and then there will be a real troll war. ;-)
You may have something there. Maybe TL can give us the ability to each make our own ranking with the rankings being weighted towards how long one has been a member of the community. And then have a popular PR to go with Critics choice PR which is what PR currently is. What do you think?
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On February 02 2010 10:22 WWJDD wrote: Power rank is always a little inconsistent. Sometimes just the performance for the month is considered. Sometimes it's looked at in the longer context. Keeping in mind those inconsistencies, I'm ok with Flash over Jaedong. Although, winning an MSL dropping just 1 game is somewhat unprecedented. GOM doesn't count.
1) Dropping a single game isn't unprecedented in a final. Many finals have been 3-0, in fact.
2) Flash got 1st place in OSL, 2nd in MSL. Jaedong Got 1st place in MSL, out in quarters of OSL (by Flash). How can Jaedong be considered above Flash? Winning a circus of an MSL isn't anywhere near close enough.
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On February 02 2010 10:59 cz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2010 10:22 WWJDD wrote: Power rank is always a little inconsistent. Sometimes just the performance for the month is considered. Sometimes it's looked at in the longer context. Keeping in mind those inconsistencies, I'm ok with Flash over Jaedong. Although, winning an MSL dropping just 1 game is somewhat unprecedented. GOM doesn't count. 1) Dropping a single game isn't unprecedented in a final. Many finals have been 3-0, in fact. 2) Flash got 1st place in OSL, 2nd in MSL. Jaedong Got 1st place in MSL, out in quarters of OSL (by Flash). How can Jaedong be considered above Flash? Winning a circus of an MSL isn't anywhere near close enough.
I think he means that JD dropped a single game the whole MSL
also I think flash should be above JD just because he's beat the crap out of more opponents
though maybe he had more opportunities to do so...
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forget this,
look at the next post
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What would this guy's Power Ranking be?
+ Show Spoiler +
I ask because I think he's a fucking truck. Fuck Boxer.
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On February 02 2010 10:10 cz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2010 07:03 TwoToneTerran wrote:On February 02 2010 06:36 cz wrote:On February 02 2010 06:35 TwoToneTerran wrote: I was sarcastically pointing it out. It is my thing. No, you don't like the fanboy back and forth and were thus legitimately complaining about it. If you had said "I love all the fanboy back and forth, it's terrific, please keep it up." that would be sarcasm. There isn't one way to do sarcasm? like, pointitively, I noticed the complaining infinite circle and intentionally added to it in a sarcastic manner to show the ridiculousness of it. But you didn't add to it in a sarcastic manner. You are saying that simply adding to it in a normal manner is sarcasm: I've already shown that your addition, in isolation, is not sarcasm. Adding to the complaining cycle with regular complaining is also not sarcasm. That would be parody. Your parodied the complaining by adding to it.
Parodies by nature are sarcastic? Non serious, mocking etc etc. You're dwelling too hard on sematics.
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Power Outage plays (R) not (Z) cuz hes so random.
/joke
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I dunno, I always felt preparation and intelligence are a big part of Starcraft. JD beat Flash in a bo5 starleague finals, the biggest possible test of skills between two players. Doesnt matter if you think he cant repeat a win with the same build cus in fact he didnt win only because of these exact builds, but because of his superior understanding of the metagame which made him come up with the better builds and won the mind game. Next Bo5 theyd meet, hed still have the advantage of better mind games/metagame understanding and would still be able to prepare better builds. Maybe you can argue that flash owns other people harder and more consistently than JD does right now, but if you directly compare Flash and JD its kinda ridiculous not to give JD the edge when he just steamrolled Flash 3-1 in a friggin SL finals...
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On February 02 2010 18:44 damenmofa wrote: I dunno, I always felt preparation and intelligence are a big part of Starcraft. JD beat Flash in a bo5 starleague finals, the biggest possible test of skills between two players. Doesnt matter if you think he cant repeat a win with the same build cus in fact he didnt win only because of these exact builds, but because of his superior understanding of the metagame which made him come up with the better builds and won the mind game. Next Bo5 theyd meet, hed still have the advantage of better mind games/metagame understanding and would still be able to prepare better builds. Maybe you can argue that flash owns other people harder and more consistently than JD does right now, but if you directly compare Flash and JD its kinda ridiculous not to give JD the edge when he just steamrolled Flash 3-1 in a friggin SL finals... But dont forget flash won the "other" final jaedong wasnt even in, because flash knocked him OUT! 2 starleague finals at the same time happens like once in billion times a you want to give edge to JD. Sorry, no.
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On February 02 2010 18:44 damenmofa wrote: I dunno, I always felt preparation and intelligence are a big part of Starcraft. JD beat Flash in a bo5 starleague finals, the biggest possible test of skills between two players. Doesnt matter if you think he cant repeat a win with the same build cus in fact he didnt win only because of these exact builds, but because of his superior understanding of the metagame which made him come up with the better builds and won the mind game. Next Bo5 theyd meet, hed still have the advantage of better mind games/metagame understanding and would still be able to prepare better builds. Maybe you can argue that flash owns other people harder and more consistently than JD does right now, but if you directly compare Flash and JD its kinda ridiculous not to give JD the edge when he just steamrolled Flash 3-1 in a friggin SL finals...
It was a butchered finals, and Flash won 2-0 in OSL. Therefore putting them at 3-3, + the recent WinnersLeague game that Flash won, I would say Flash even has the head to head edge. I realize that OSL was in late December, but the thing is that Flash's elimination of Jaedong allowed him to easily go on and win the tournament.
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Yep, looking at the big picture Flash totally deserves his place on the PR.
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On February 02 2010 07:53 SuperArc wrote: Jaedong is on a 17 game ZvP winning streak. I love how Plexa didnt mention that at all.
Its about to surpass Flash's TvT superiority since like Flash's TvT I just cant see a protoss beating Jaedong. And it has long surpassed Flash's TvZ dominance.
Yes, but ZvP is slightly imbalanced compared to TvT or TvZ.
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T>Z just as much as Z>P. It doesn't really matter though, it's still very impressive because no one else is able to abuse this slight imbalance as well as Flash and JD are doing.
I think Flash's TvT dominance is the coolest and really proves how much better than all other Terrans he is because TvT is a mirror MU which means that there is no map imba or anything like that to take into account, it has very little to do with luck and allows epic comebacks which means the better overall player generally wins. It's a little sad that JD has to play ZvZ which has that element of luck in it, or else his winrate would probably be even more insane than it already is.
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Really is playing very solid imo but.. idk if FBH should be so high
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Assuming he's been winning some games, in my eyes FBH is welcome on the PR at any time just because.
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FBH gets to play so much in Khan that he HAS to win some times... like his 6-2 record recently, he will probably be able to do that again, in a year or something. I mean statistically speaking it's not that strange, he actually wins one third of his games lol.
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The power outage took down flash why isn't it #1 D:
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