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vnlegend
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1389 Posts
January 25 2010 18:51 GMT
#661
JD is #1.

You have to beat the king to become the king, and JD is the KING.

Back to back gold + gold titles, BO5 heads-up victory >> gold + silver.
Marines > everything
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
January 25 2010 19:42 GMT
#662
On January 26 2010 03:51 vnlegend wrote:
JD is #1.

You have to beat the king to become the king, and JD is the KING.

Back to back gold + gold titles, BO5 heads-up victory >> gold + silver.

lol, I like what u say but...than nada should be first right?
Boxer: " Lee Jae Dong is the best player. He`s all about the micro; he`s the player which has the most amazing control"
Severedevil
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States4839 Posts
January 25 2010 20:13 GMT
#663
On January 26 2010 04:42 Jaeden wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 26 2010 03:51 vnlegend wrote:
JD is #1.

You have to beat the king to become the king, and JD is the KING.

Back to back gold + gold titles, BO5 heads-up victory >> gold + silver.

lol, I like what u say but...than nada should be first right?

Uh, no. Nada's been beaten hard since his last successful gold.
My strategy is to fork people.
Bwenjarin Raffrack
Profile Joined November 2008
United States322 Posts
January 25 2010 20:18 GMT
#664
On January 26 2010 03:51 vnlegend wrote:
JD is #1.

You have to beat the king to become the king, and JD is the KING.

Back to back gold + gold titles, BO5 heads-up victory >> gold + silver.


You make a good argument, but the fact of the matter is that (Z)Crazy-Hydra has won every game of his this month. You have to beat the king to become the king, and (Z)Crazy-Hydra proved that Jaedong was only a pretender to the throne.
I'm not as thunk as dreople pink I am.
nonduc
Profile Joined May 2009
Russian Federation405 Posts
January 25 2010 21:02 GMT
#665
On January 24 2010 19:10 Severedevil wrote:
A head-to-head Bo5 is the gold standard of comparative skill.

티라노사저그 렉스 화이팅~!
Loffeman
Profile Joined June 2007
Sweden105 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-25 21:07:04
January 25 2010 21:06 GMT
#666
On January 24 2010 23:07 johanes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2010 22:51 SuperArc wrote:
On January 24 2010 22:30 StylishVODs wrote:
Jaedong should be nr2.
Its really hard taking both titles. Flash almost did it, and had it not been for him playing 1000 games vs zergs recently and jaedongs ability to find weaknesses to his play he might have done it.
Game 1 and 4 wasn't really showing any skill from either player and that sadens me abit.

One thing about flash though it didn't seem as he had prepared anything risky/special in the series except for the bunkerrush in game 4 which he had done twice on that map already the last two games. Flash didn't play his normal abusive play and he was punnished for that since jaedong took every advantage he could by doing risky things such as no dronescout and 3hatch before pool etc.
I felt almost as flash didn't prepare for this finals and thats really wierd, coz im sure he did.
A predicting commentator said: Flash can throw anything at jaedong and he must try to beat it. But flash didn't throw anything at jaedong. It was jaedong who did these builds where flash had to adapt.

With that said, 1 gold + 1 silver when jaedong vs flash is 3-3 in recent games + the fact that flash has broken records left and right and peaked over 2400 elo is surely enough to give flash the first spot. but PR has been hard on flash before, i hope this time its not coz he deseves it.


Flash is not the only one whos been breaking records left and right. Thats why I said the fairest solution would be to award #1 to both players. They showed us this month that both of them are completely on another level than all others. Not even Stork or Bisu are close to them skill-wise.

I also kinda feel that Taek Bang Lee Ssang will soon change into Lee Ssang. Stork and Bisu's peaks are over, Jaedong's might be ending soon too and with SC2 close I pity Flash since he will most likely not have his chance to prove that he could have been the GOTA because he had to face Jaedong during his peak.

I doubt there is anyone who would argue that flash is GOAT skillwise...


Hope this is a joke? People seem to think u can be GOAT for being really dominating 1 or 2 seasons? Well Flash isn't the only who has done that =p
Mindcrime
Profile Joined July 2004
United States6899 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-25 22:19:10
January 25 2010 22:18 GMT
#667
guys, Jaedong should clearly be #3 at most

Stork has beaten stats, fantasy and fucking perfectman (the guy is perfect). how can you compete with that?
That wasn't any act of God. That was an act of pure human fuckery.
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2239 Posts
January 26 2010 00:03 GMT
#668
On January 26 2010 06:06 Loffeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 24 2010 23:07 johanes wrote:
On January 24 2010 22:51 SuperArc wrote:
On January 24 2010 22:30 StylishVODs wrote:
Jaedong should be nr2.
Its really hard taking both titles. Flash almost did it, and had it not been for him playing 1000 games vs zergs recently and jaedongs ability to find weaknesses to his play he might have done it.
Game 1 and 4 wasn't really showing any skill from either player and that sadens me abit.

One thing about flash though it didn't seem as he had prepared anything risky/special in the series except for the bunkerrush in game 4 which he had done twice on that map already the last two games. Flash didn't play his normal abusive play and he was punnished for that since jaedong took every advantage he could by doing risky things such as no dronescout and 3hatch before pool etc.
I felt almost as flash didn't prepare for this finals and thats really wierd, coz im sure he did.
A predicting commentator said: Flash can throw anything at jaedong and he must try to beat it. But flash didn't throw anything at jaedong. It was jaedong who did these builds where flash had to adapt.

With that said, 1 gold + 1 silver when jaedong vs flash is 3-3 in recent games + the fact that flash has broken records left and right and peaked over 2400 elo is surely enough to give flash the first spot. but PR has been hard on flash before, i hope this time its not coz he deseves it.


Flash is not the only one whos been breaking records left and right. Thats why I said the fairest solution would be to award #1 to both players. They showed us this month that both of them are completely on another level than all others. Not even Stork or Bisu are close to them skill-wise.

I also kinda feel that Taek Bang Lee Ssang will soon change into Lee Ssang. Stork and Bisu's peaks are over, Jaedong's might be ending soon too and with SC2 close I pity Flash since he will most likely not have his chance to prove that he could have been the GOTA because he had to face Jaedong during his peak.

I doubt there is anyone who would argue that flash is GOAT skillwise...


Hope this is a joke? People seem to think u can be GOAT for being really dominating 1 or 2 seasons? Well Flash isn't the only who has done that =p

i didnt write anything about domination, just about raw skill, and i do think flash is most skilled progamer ever. Ofcourse, some players can top him in certain areas, like jaedong in mental strenght, but his micro and macro combined are best ever
ppgButtercup
Profile Joined July 2009
United States159 Posts
January 26 2010 00:22 GMT
#669
Am I the only one that feels like this is a stale-mate until the WL match tonight?
If at first you do not succeed, burn everything and pretend it never happened.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
January 26 2010 00:42 GMT
#670
On January 26 2010 00:53 Bwenjarin Raffrack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 25 2010 20:57 adelarge wrote:
And it that case, for powerranking needs, Flash should be nr. 1 because he DID accomplish more than JD this month.


Pfft, what do you seriously think Flash accomplished this month? Hit 2400 Elo multiple times with a 70% lifetime win rate, won his 22nd consecutive TvT for the longest streak ever, passed iloveoov's monstrous TvZ peak Elo rating, won an OSL gold and a MSL silver while winning ace matches for his team in proleague? Lol, whatever. Jaedong dominated him in the most indisputable, uncontroversial way I've ever seen in the best starleague finals of recent memory. In fact, if Jaedong hadn't made any mistakes at all, he'd have won 3-0. Seriously, why are you Flash fanboys so blind to the fact that those MSL finals games told us all we ever needed to know?


Recognize the sarcasm.

End of thread.

People didn't want to acknowledge Flash as the clearly better player with his 2-0.. I don't think you should really acknowledge Jaedong as the better player with his 3-1 that was marred with a bunch of fucked up circumstances.

Jaedong and Flash are nothing more than 50:50 at the moment and if you take this month into account... Flash did better STILL. The end.
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
January 26 2010 00:46 GMT
#671
On January 26 2010 09:22 stormguy85 wrote:
Am I the only one that feels like this is a stale-mate until the WL match tonight?

Great point. Let's see what happens tonight.

Stork looked good last night; I was worried about him after some of these recent losses but he is playing well, especially considering the maps. He obviously has to drop in power rank, though, because Flash and Jaedong are gonna be in the top two spots. Not sure whether or not someone else should pass Stork...
Pokebunny
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States10654 Posts
January 26 2010 01:05 GMT
#672
On January 25 2010 20:57 adelarge wrote:
Wow...just wow. I can't believe some people are able to draw conclussion that JD > Flash based solely on the fucked up 3:1 MSL Final (fucked up becase of game 4, I actually believe JD was going to win game 3 anyway).

If something, it along with the 0:2 OSL game showed us how incredibely close these two are and how stupid is calling one of them better than the other right now.

And it that case, for powerranking needs, Flash should be nr. 1 because he DID accomplish more than JD this month.

Next month, with lots of games played in WL, it can be a totally different story.


qft. Flash took out Jaedong in OSL, Jaedong took out Flash in MSL.
Semipro Terran player | Pokebunny#1710 | twitter.com/Pokebunny | twitch.tv/Pokebunny | facebook.com/PokebunnySC
revy
Profile Joined September 2009
United States1524 Posts
January 26 2010 03:25 GMT
#673
I'm glad I agree with some people here, Flash definitely #1 next month. The kid played 100 million TvZs in the past 2 months for JD to go to school off of and has still managed a 3-3 score vs JD in Dec/Jan. I'm not trying to take anything away from JD, without a doubt he is closer to the B word right now than Flash. JD has won 3 straight major finals (Back to back OSL + MSL now) for his 5th career final victory. I think over the past 8 months he's shown B word material. However, since October it's been clear to me that Flash has been putting forward better stuff. If Flash can keep it up for as long as JD has will be his test as a player. We had what, about 3 years without a Bonjwa? It wouldn't surprise me if we're watching 2 right now.
ppgButtercup
Profile Joined July 2009
United States159 Posts
January 26 2010 04:25 GMT
#674
The funny thing to think about is this: if it wasn't for Flash, Jaedong would have won both the MSL and the OSL. And on the flip side: if it wasn't for Jaedong, Flash would have won both the MSL and the OSL.

It's almost a shame we have two overly-amazing players otherwise more history records would be getting broken.
If at first you do not succeed, burn everything and pretend it never happened.
Hinanawi
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2250 Posts
January 26 2010 06:19 GMT
#675
On January 26 2010 09:22 stormguy85 wrote:
Am I the only one that feels like this is a stale-mate until the WL match tonight?


This. Flash and Jaedong are so neck-and-neck that the WL match between KT and Oz could end up deciding who gets #1 and who gets #2
Favorite progamers (in order): Flash, Stork, Violet, Sea. ||| Get better soon, Violet!
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
January 26 2010 06:57 GMT
#676
--- Nuked ---
Ozarugold
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
2716 Posts
January 26 2010 08:10 GMT
#677
I'm gonna laugh so hard if neither Flash nor Jaedong plays in the Winners League match~
this is my quote.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
January 26 2010 09:58 GMT
#678
On January 26 2010 13:25 stormguy85 wrote:
The funny thing to think about is this: if it wasn't for Flash, Jaedong would have won both the MSL and the OSL. And on the flip side: if it wasn't for Jaedong, Flash would have won both the MSL and the OSL.

It's almost a shame we have two overly-amazing players otherwise more history records would be getting broken.

Ya, they're both really far ahead of all competition. So I'm having a great time (being a fan of both).
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
fallingdream
Profile Joined December 2004
Romania452 Posts
January 26 2010 11:57 GMT
#679
Well the race for nr.1 is done.
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
January 26 2010 11:57 GMT
#680
KT vs OZ spoiler

+ Show Spoiler +
I guess it's settled now?
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