EPT
Most Overhyped?
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Shield
Bulgaria4824 Posts
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pripple
Finland1714 Posts
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538
Hungary3932 Posts
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Crunchums
United States11143 Posts
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ninazerg
United States7291 Posts
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21242 Posts
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Misrah
United States1695 Posts
easy. | ||
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RyanS
United States620 Posts
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GeneralStan
United States4789 Posts
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
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tyr
France1686 Posts
My vote goes to Skyhigh though. He was pretty much in Hyuk's position a few months ago and now is just .. not good. | ||
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XsebT
Denmark2980 Posts
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FirstBorn
Romania3955 Posts
Everyone's so hyped about Leta's amazing mechanincs and his amazing solid play but he's still nothing more than a good proleague player. I've always been skeptical about him and actually all prodigies and I have been right up till now. If he didn't win a league these seasons he was actually really solid in PL, I think there's little chances he'll win one at all. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
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Lucid90
Canada340 Posts
Hyuk is currently playing better but he isn't really considered anyone special so I don't think he's overhyped. Fantasy, skyhigh, effort and even zero are not overhyped IMO. | ||
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
though neither have won an individual league, both have produced outstanding results for some time now | ||
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Horiz0n
Sweden364 Posts
All though I agree with the previous poster that Hyuked is more of a joke that someone lost to a T1 zerg, even though many people have been Hyuked recently :> | ||
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Boundz(DarKo)
5311 Posts
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Ideas
United States8096 Posts
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EpiK
Korea (South)5757 Posts
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littlechava
United States7218 Posts
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polarwolf
924 Posts
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Harem
United States11390 Posts
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Tom Phoenix
1114 Posts
However, I do not think Hyuk is overhyped. I just think that after being ridiculed for so long, people have still not gotten over the shock of Hyuk actually starting to perform decently well (especially considering that historically, most of the SKT1 Zergs have been mediocre players that remained mediocre for their entire careers) Obviously, he still has ways to go (especially with his ZvT) before he can be considered a top player, so very few people actually consider him a top player at this point in time. | ||
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HaXXspetten
Sweden15718 Posts
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SkelA
Macedonia13032 Posts
Zero needs more hype ... he is top 3 zerg for me he has the skill + entertaining .as hell . Pwning Bisu with queens and Hwasin with infested terrans ! How can you not like this guy ! | ||
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
On November 05 2009 05:37 polarwolf wrote: Leta by far imo. Little cheating, cheesing weasel-look-a-like. agreed. WEASEL | ||
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GinNtoniC
Sweden2945 Posts
People saying Fantasy - are you daft? For real? Where were you this summer? | ||
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yukido
Germany102 Posts
both leta and fantasy were extremeley hyped to be the next big ultra-creative terran after flash. | ||
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Ethelis
United States2396 Posts
Fantasy, overrated? lol? i dont think zero should be on the list either but bleh | ||
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RelZo
Hungary397 Posts
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ZooG
Sweden618 Posts
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honey_badger
Djibouti46 Posts
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oob
Sweden630 Posts
On November 05 2009 04:29 Carnivorous Sheep wrote: Hyuk, Effort, Leta, in that order. I very much agree with this. | ||
tree.hugger
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
 Hyuk, based on current hype, because he's a respectable player, but he has proven nothing yet. In reverse order: -  fantasy has played stunning starcraft, made two OSL finals, and one pseudo-final, and was huge for SKT1 in proleague finals. fantasy is the real deal, and has already proven it. - EffOrt went 25-3 for a stretch last year, got third in GOM (which really didn't matter) and also came up huge for CJ in the proleague playoffs. EffOrt is absurdly strong right now, I can't even imagine how he would be overhyped. He's #7 in the PR after being sniped by Hyuk and rolling everyone else. - ZerO is woefully underhyped, if it weren't for his ZvZ, he'd have been in a starleague semi-finals by now. - Leta is looking bad now, but he was the ACE match bonjwa last year, and looked very strong for a while. - sKyHigh really hasn't gotten that much hype recently, his WL All-kill was his peak so far. Where are the protoss? Where is Calm? Calm is the most overrated player in BW. | ||
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Itachii
Poland12466 Posts
i'd go with skyhigh | ||
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
Leta not so much. and Hyuk is just well hyuk | ||
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Zerum
Sweden348 Posts
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FaCE_1
Canada6172 Posts
I never got any hype for Hyuk and all others are good player. | ||
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thopol
Japan4560 Posts
In reality I should have voted Fantasy because he's been considered the best terran by some and that's totally ludicrous. Also I don't like him. | ||
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
Hyuk is gonna prove himself. He IS playing on the most celebrated teams in esports with some of the best players in the world. He'll live up to the legend Leta on the other hand was just a flash in the pan man. | ||
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Frits
11782 Posts
All the others on the list have been playing extremely well at some point and zero and skyhigh didn't even receive a lot of hype, way less than hyuk but for some reason everyone is talking about him. | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
On November 05 2009 06:54 thopol wrote: I voted Hyuk thinking of it in terms of who is the worst. In reality I should have voted Fantasy because he's been considered the best terran by some and that's totally ludicrous. Also I don't like him. Fantasy was the #1 Terran on Kespa rank, while Flash was in a tough period. He was a genuine Royal Road candidate and the Fantasy Build was the real deal. He debuted with a bang and he is still amongst those who are closest to the top. I don't see how Effort is overhyped. The guy is very consistent and is delivering great games. I know that Zero received some hype after he used queen to defeat Bisu and Infested Terran to take out Protoss...But what he received is an outcry in comparison to some other players on this list. I don't think Hyuk is overhyped. I think he got a lot to prove here and he can do it. Leta and Skyhigh are before my time. But I heard that Leta was hailed as the Son of God for a while... | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On November 05 2009 06:56 DreaM)XeRO wrote: Leta BY ALOT. Hyuk is gonna prove himself. He IS playing on the most celebrated teams in esports with some of the best players in the world. He'll live up to the legend Leta on the other hand was just a flash in the pan man. You can't deny the amazing results Leta has achieved. He was overhyped at some point (when he was completely dominating Pro League) but now people know he's not the greatest Terran, people know he fails in indivdual leagues, but still he has achieved so much more than hyuk, the guy carries a team, while hyuk is being hyped mostly just for finally not sucking anymore. (And ok, for having pretty sick zvz) Zero is probably more underrated than overrated cause he really doesn't get that much credit, but the results represent that so it's fine. Despite being a CJ fanboy I can kinda understand skyhigh being 2nd simply because he is pretty inconsistent, but he's still obviously a very strong player. | ||
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Jakalo
Latvia2350 Posts
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Realpenguin
8253 Posts
Funny how back then I was hyping him up (as a joke), and now I think the hype has gone a bit too far. | ||
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seRapH
United States9756 Posts
the only matchup i've seen live up to the hype is his ZvZ. Jaedong wouldnt be Jaedong if he were 25% ZvT, 50% ZvP, and 80% ZvZ | ||
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ReketSomething
United States6012 Posts
Just cuz hes a streaky bastard =D | ||
p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
I could see arguments for Leta/sKyHigh but it's almost laughable that anyone could pick fantasy, EffOrt, or ZerO instead of Hyuk in this poll. | ||
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
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dekuschrub
United States2069 Posts
skyhigh may turn out to be amazing still though... but right now hes sucking | ||
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
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hefty
Denmark555 Posts
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Essence
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iSiN
United States1075 Posts
On November 05 2009 04:32 Misrah wrote: F A N T A S Y easy. I agree with misrah the more I see fantasy play the less I think of him as a good player. Sure he's innovative but once his builds are figured out he just goes back to the middle of the road progamer he can't really keep up once his strats have been studied. His bio v zerg is pretty bad imo. | ||
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Obzy
United States525 Posts
Skyhigh got super hyped after the Winners League finals, and I haven't seen him be particularly amazing since then. Zero was hyped for what, like a week or two? Then he crashed back down. Leta feels like the same - he had a lot of hype around when I got into progaming last January, and since then, I see way more anti-hype than hype. It's sort of depressing since Leta is one of my favorite players ._. When everyone hates someone, it doesn't mean that they're hyped up.. t_t Effort and Fantasy aren't overhyped. I don't like Fantasy, but he's really good. The hype is totally deserved. And Effort - Well, we'll have to see. At the moment he's sort of Leta-ish, but I doubt he'll get BBS'd out of the OSL again. Notes - + Show Spoiler + I think all of these players are really fucking good+ Show Spoiler + except Hyuk The word hype has lost all meaning with me typing it this many times T_T | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
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KnightOfNi
United States1508 Posts
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Vasoline73
United States7801 Posts
lol... jkjk... I'm gonna vote Hyuk. Leta is overhyped, but can live up to it on occasion. | ||
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StylishVODs
Sweden5331 Posts
How can fantasy be overhyped he made it to 2 back to back OSL finals ffs. | ||
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iLoveKT
Philippines3615 Posts
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ssystem
United Kingdom337 Posts
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selboN
United States2523 Posts
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Marine50
Australia1764 Posts
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ToN
Canada245 Posts
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MountainDewJunkie
United States10341 Posts
sKyHigh. He all-killed Oz once upon a time, but more recently, got destroyed by Mind and wraithed by RuBy, which is no crime, but it shows that his TvT is particularly overhyped.But more importantly: he got 2-0ed by freaking ggaemo in this OSL.Leta is way overhyped, but he's still a good player. I think his gimmicky 2-port wraith needs be put to rest. Otherwise, FireFist will just knock him down again. We've seen that his straight-up bio play produces better results, don't you agree, ZerO?Speaking of whom, Zero is a very entertaining player, and he'd probably have a title by now, were his ZvZ not unspeakably horrid. His hype meter will rise throughout the season, because he'll pretty much become for Stars what Jaedong is for Oz. I fear he will be unable to deliver. At which point, he will be overhyped. fantasy just made 3 consecutive OSL semi-finals (including two finals). I don't like him at all, but I don't argue with results. Why the hell is he in this poll...EffOrt his good, but I doubt he wins even one starleague. He's hyped for the same reason fantasy is hyped: he's the apprentice of a bonjwa.Hyuk's ZvT is even worse than Casy's TvP. However, as long as he keeps running into more zergs, he'll be very useful for SKT. | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
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mrdx
Vietnam1555 Posts
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prOxi.Beater
Denmark626 Posts
Voted Hyuk, the guy still sucks | ||
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PH
United States6173 Posts
Sure, he's on a roll, but I doubt anyone's thinking he'll keep it up. We all know his past. -_- | ||
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On_Slaught
United States12190 Posts
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calvinL
Canada416 Posts
Take a look at the most recent hyuk match on liquibet. I don't understand how most people thought hes the favourite against pure, and pure is a very decent toss. | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
What I DO expect from Hyuk is the emergence of a solid Zerg player for SKT T1. If SKT T1 has a solid Zerg in the lineup, SKT's lineup will be almost flawless. Even Best's slump would seem inconsequential. | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
Skyhigh is my choice cause I'm a CJ fan and I've seen him flop too many times. He is great, he has insane skill. That is where the hype comes from. But IMHO he will continue to fail because he is too overconfident, and loses to small details a player of his level should NEVER overlook. | ||
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tirentu
Canada1257 Posts
I voted Fantasy, however, because of the many times people have called him the number one terran over the course of the past year or so. Yes, his builds are cute. No, he's not nearly as strong a player as Flash or even Leta. | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
On November 05 2009 12:16 tirentu wrote: I voted Fantasy, however, because of the many times people have called him the number one terran over the course of the past year or so. Yes, his builds are cute. No, he's not nearly as strong a player as Flash or even Leta. NOT NEARLY? Leta? | ||
JWD
United States12607 Posts
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17726 Posts
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MageKirby
United States535 Posts
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p53
297 Posts
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
On November 05 2009 08:36 hefty wrote: It's cool that Jaedong isn't even an option =) instavote | ||
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konadora
Singapore66159 Posts
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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oo_xerox
United States852 Posts
Most Overhyped? : Huyk Make your goddamed mind | ||
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jalstar
United States8198 Posts
apparently some people see one impressive win and think a player's good at all matchups. | ||
MrHoon
10183 Posts
Leta on the otherhand.... Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh I voted for leta lol and HYUK IS AWESOME | ||
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fnaticNoname
India858 Posts
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Ferago
41 Posts
On November 05 2009 13:51 jalstar wrote: i never got the impression that hyuk would be anything more than a red sniper apparently some people see one impressive win and think a player's good at all matchups. What are you talking about, "one impressive win"? He 4-0'd STX in that tournament, he's beaten the god of ZvZ twice in a row, (and in the last one he completely out-microed him off a mirror build), and then went on to beat effort. And this is after recently beating kwanro, stork, great (2-1), and quite a few other players (some notable, some not). He has won 28 of his last 36 overall games. Yeah. | ||
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samachking
Bahrain4949 Posts
On November 05 2009 06:23 tree.hugger wrote: - ZerO is woefully underhyped, if it weren't for his ZvZ, he'd have been in a starleague semi-finals by now. Lol This made me really sad as a big Zero Fan, he even made a SL Semis and noone has any idea, he is a top 3 ZvT/ZvP player with sick out of the world mechanics + creative play yet noone gives him any cred because of his mediocre zvz, hes even considered a boring player which is pretty fucked up since noone even watches his games. Zeros ZvP/ZvT stats dont do him justice due to his crappy start and lack of games to make up for it, his muta control is really sick too in all 3 mus As for Hype -Fantasy is the real deal for sure -Leta is good TvP/TvT, but his gimmicky TvZ is figured out -Effort is hyped up to succeed, but not skill wise, he has real sick skill in all 3 mus -Skyhigh is overhyped out of proportion for cheesing JD and defending a 4pool,apparently noone even watched the games since that fact is never mentioned + many many players can all kill YOUNG/SPEAR/ and a hiya that choked, his tvt is good Ill give him that -Hyuk blowed and still blows and this is the most retarded T1 bandwagon ever | ||
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Athos
United States2484 Posts
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ryuu_
United States1266 Posts
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gnr9292
90 Posts
Hyuka player that can't beat a toss in hbr should not get this amount of attention | ||
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chongu
Malaysia2585 Posts
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cunninglinguists
United States925 Posts
i can't understand if some people voted for fantasy, effort or zero if the poll is presenting all of these other easy pz choices. all three of those players are absolutely fantastic (barring zero's meh zvz; though to be honest, it is improving nowadays). fantasy is pretty damn fucking good. a lot of us (myself included) expected him to crash and burn after getting stomped by dinotoss in osl finals, yet he proved himself to be unbelievably resilient and rock his way to become the forefront of skt's two-punch knockout (bisu + fantasy). effort is just fantastic. maybe this is because he is an alien. zero has jawdropping zvp and incredible zvt. he has also a creativity and flourish that makes him incredible to watch only because of his skill but also because of his ingenuity and creativity. i think a lot of the hate that he gets is from his debut defeat of savior during savior's msl comeback where he straightup owned bisu and then defeated upmagic. i saw so many hateful comments on that lr thread after zero solidly trampled over savior's return-to-the-limelight msl that were unmerited. i swear to you, if zero had beaten anyone else other than savior to advance to the final four, he'd be loved by the masses now. unfortunately, rabid maestro lovers have tainted his image and as a result his fanbase is actually small compared to how much he deserves. that said, for me the choice is skyhigh because you would have to be sky high not to pick him. very solid tvt (though even that's been slipping nowadays) and mediocre to decent tvz (3 in his last 10) and tvp, yet many hail him as the next big terran. maybe when he looks more solid in his other matchups and actually make it into the starleagues i'll start taking note. until then, however, skyhigh is gonna be another good but not great terran in my book. hyuk came close though, but i feel sorry for the guy so i casted my vote elsewhere. | ||
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pronoob5
United States90 Posts
Hyuk is really important for SKT. | ||
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MisteR
Netherlands595 Posts
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Camlito
Australia4040 Posts
Voted Hyuk. | ||
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MrHoon
10183 Posts
haha talk about irony Netizen man American fans are cold. They're calling hyuk 'Trash' and stuff T.T why are they so mean Netizen They're too hard on hyuk! I mean considering that he got so much better they shouldn't call him an hype Netizen Effort is too low on this list. Considering how hes never been to semifinals in... Everything Netizen well Effort still has a win streak and does really well in SPL. Netizen lol Americans also find Hyuk to be hype kekekekekekekekekek Netizen Lol SKFail Netizen Leta never sucked, everyone just hates him Netizen I don't think Fantasy is a hype... I mean he has won 2 silvers Netizen SKZerg lol | ||
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kvilx
Poland198 Posts
On November 05 2009 05:16 EpiK wrote: Zero and effort should not be on that list... Zero deserves more hype. The kid is a monster I agree, I would rather see  Movie here.EDIT: Voted sKyHigh, he played terribly in every MU other than TvT. | ||
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Presony-Boy
Israel812 Posts
gotta go with hyuk/skyhigh, voted hyuk. | ||
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Shauni
4077 Posts
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raga4ka
Bulgaria5679 Posts
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Loanshark
China3094 Posts
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
Especially Leta Skyhigh is pretty overhyped too, he's little more than a one matchup wonder. lmao ok you 2-1 Best when he starts sucking like crazy and you can have a snipe-jaedong build, whatever. | ||
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omg.deus
Korea (South)150 Posts
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QibingZero
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Kyo Yuy
United States1286 Posts
On November 05 2009 13:48 oo_xerox wrote: This season's breakout player? : Hyuk Most Overhyped? : Huyk Make your goddamed mind It's called "SKT1 autovote." Remember when people voted Bisu no matter what the poll question was? :D I would say Effort is the most overrated. Neo Savior and he hasn't been able to really accomplish anything that Savior did in 2006. Zero is overhyped? I wasn't even aware that Zero HAD hype... o_o Though I think some players rightfully deserve hype for their Proleague performance but then tend to do badly in individual leagues. Some players are just really good at Proleague but then don't do well in the individual leagues. Leta seems to be one of those, and sadly, it seems Bisu has been showing signs of being one of those lately as well :| | ||
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oN_Silva
197 Posts
i would want to see fbh on that list, for his crap attitude / crap playstyl and still hype. hes the prototype of an overhyped b00n tossgirl as well, even tho she deserves her hype aswell for being a girl and touching a computer game at all fantasy, leta, effort, hyuk deserve all their hype for they gained it by pure skill and tactics. | ||
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
On November 05 2009 14:37 Ferago wrote: What are you talking about, "one impressive win"? He 4-0'd STX in that tournament stopped reading right there...lmao | ||
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miseiler
United States1389 Posts
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MutaDoom
Canada1163 Posts
Oh wait, I mean Leta. | ||
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qrs
United States3637 Posts
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GHOSTCLAW
United States17042 Posts
I think that Hyuk has been performing beyond expectation right now, so he's not necessarily overhyped, but I expect him to fall before doing too much else. Leta was the most hyped T last season, and now he had trouble beating the weakest of players. Leta gets my vote | ||
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BlueStar
Bulgaria1166 Posts
On November 05 2009 04:22 pripple wrote: Skyhigh gets my vote, the guy plain sucks :| | ||
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UGC4
Peru532 Posts
last OSL everyone was saying "oh effort is gonna go far this time" the boy never made it out of his group, neither did flash, fantasy 3-0 that shit WITH STORK in it. the guy is a beast when it comes to individual leagues, if anything i'd say he is underhyped by most ppl. i understand he has haters, but how is he third from last when he shouldnt even be in this list? | ||
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MrHickoryHam54
United States208 Posts
On November 05 2009 04:23 538 wrote: Hyuk, hands down:-p Skyhigh for second. The rest are all players capable of exceptional plays from time to time, while I dont see anything exceptional in these two. (though I hate Effort, I must admit he is scary decent, might be something big? Hope not though:-p) dude effort is a badass but i do agree with the hyuk (only wins because he doesnt suck at zvz) and skyhigh (sucks, period) | ||
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synapse
China13814 Posts
Leta / Fantasy are just slumping, and noone REALLY expects Hyuk to win anything other than a ZvJ. Zero and skyhigh are awesome. | ||
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zazen
Brazil695 Posts
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Kentor
United States5784 Posts
Hyuk (830) 56% Movie (298) 20% Shine (191) 13% Roro (89) 6% Ruby (78) 5% Most Overhyped? : Hyuk (521) 33% Leta (295) 19% Skyhigh (292) 18% Fantasy (215) 13% Effort (140) 9% Zero (131) 8% hyuk wins !!! | ||
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StorrZerg
United States13919 Posts
and i agree, he is the most over hyped player this season. | ||
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
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bITt.mAN
Switzerland3693 Posts
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
I voted SkyHigh, but that's just because I felt like I had to vote for something. Edit: wait a minute... By voting that someone is "overhyped"... doesn't that mean that the winner of this poll will have to be the LEAST hyped? Speaking of which, it seems to me more like everyone hates Leta than that he's hyped up a lot. | ||
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venture
United States3 Posts
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Djabanete
United States2786 Posts
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Loffeman
Sweden105 Posts
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Zozma
United States1626 Posts
sure, he accomplished a lot back in the day, but what has he done RECENTLy other than beat washed-up players like flash and fantasy lol | ||
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wifebeater
178 Posts
I regret so much picking him for my Fantasy team... Expensive and shitty.. | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On November 06 2009 05:36 Loffeman wrote: Bisu, hasn't won shit in like 2 years and there are still a lot of people who think that he's the best He's not the best, but he's by far the best Protoss on the scene these days. Most consistent definitely, and probably still Top 3 in terms of overall play. Crushed his way through his MSL win earlier this year and did the same in GOM Season 2. Yes, he might suck ass in OSL, but the guy plays some high quality games. Skyhigh on the other hand is vastly overrated and isn't even that good. Inconsistent as hell and doesn't show up in Starleagues. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On November 06 2009 06:34 Roffles wrote: He's not the best, but he's by far the best Protoss on the scene these days. Most consistent definitely, and probably still Top 3 in terms of overall play. Crushed his way through his MSL win earlier this year and did the same in GOM Season 2. Yes, he might suck ass in OSL, but the guy plays some high quality games. Skyhigh on the other hand is vastly overrated and isn't even that good. Inconsistent as hell and doesn't show up in Starleagues. Bisu is not ''by far the best Protoss on the scene''. Stork is pretty damn close. | ||
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tedster
984 Posts
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Loffeman
Sweden105 Posts
On November 06 2009 06:34 Roffles wrote: He's not the best, but he's by far the best Protoss on the scene these days. Most consistent definitely, and probably still Top 3 in terms of overall play. Crushed his way through his MSL win earlier this year and did the same in GOM Season 2. Yes, he might suck ass in OSL, but the guy plays some high quality games. Skyhigh on the other hand is vastly overrated and isn't even that good. Inconsistent as hell and doesn't show up in Starleagues. Yeah Bisu can play really really good but he tends to loose when it matters and that's his big problem. It's no point beeing one of the best in r32 if u suck in r16 | ||
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dukethegold
Canada5645 Posts
On November 06 2009 07:40 tedster wrote: Zero is incredibly underhyped, how in the world is he even on this list? I am more curious why 146 people voted for him. I know he received some hype when he defeated Bisu with queens and was the first to use Infested Terran effectively. But nobody called him Bonjwa or anything, and he is a very powerful player who simply suck at ZvZ. | ||
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Mikilatov
United States3897 Posts
Also, I wouldn't consider Fantasy or Zero to be overhyped at all. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On November 06 2009 04:09 Pulimuli wrote: have no freakin idea who Hyuk is so im voting on him If you don't even know who he is then how can you say that he's overhyped? | ||
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LetMeShine
979 Posts
Leta is somewhat overhyped with all the bonjwa talk but he generally shows good results in proleague - people just seem to hate him for some reason thus are voting him for that reason, Hyuk isn't really overhyped because its simply the same people spewing the same rubbish over and over and no one really talks about Zero so he's probably underhyped if anything. Really the best option is Skyhigh who simply performs poorly against zerg, with some of the worst medic marine control of any 'high level' player, and protoss despite people claiming how amazing he is. One good matchup doesn't make an ordinary player awesome. | ||
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meegrean
Thailand7699 Posts
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Sc2ggRise
United States607 Posts
Leta & Skyhigh on the other hand... T_T | ||
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MrHickoryHam54
United States208 Posts
On November 06 2009 07:15 koreasilver wrote: Skyhigh no contest. skyhigh is bad, but hes not that hyped to begin with (i think its because ppl realize hes bad lol) hyuk is probly a better choice because i heard a lotta buzz about how he was like "the best player ever" and all that crap. in reality, hes done nothing but zvz (does 20% zvt ring a bell?) and his other 2 matchups suck more than ppl like tazza and doctor k lol | ||
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MrHickoryHam54
United States208 Posts
On November 06 2009 07:48 dukethegold wrote: I am more curious why 146 people voted for him. I know he received some hype when he defeated Bisu with queens and was the first to use Infested Terran effectively. But nobody called him Bonjwa or anything, and he is a very powerful player who simply suck at ZvZ. yes, i completely agree with this. zero has pulled off some solid victories, and its not about beating the best players, but rather about keeping your team afloat as zero has done to the stars. it gets the morale going and ur team will win more | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On November 06 2009 13:01 MrHickoryHam54 wrote: skyhigh is bad, but hes not that hyped to begin with (i think its because ppl realize hes bad lol) hyuk is probly a better choice because i heard a lotta buzz about how he was like "the best player ever" and all that crap. in reality, hes done nothing but zvz (does 20% zvt ring a bell?) and his other 2 matchups suck more than ppl like tazza and doctor k lol He was hyped up as all hell after he beat Jaedong twice in a row. I clearly remember some people getting all hot and bothered saying he had one of the best TvZs or something retarded like that. | ||
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FireGuyX
United States1712 Posts
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Camlito
Australia4040 Posts
On November 05 2009 21:50 Kyo Yuy wrote: It's called "SKT1 autovote." Remember when people voted Bisu no matter what the poll question was? :D I would say Effort is the most overrated. Neo Savior and he hasn't been able to really accomplish anything that Savior did in 2006. Zero is overhyped? I wasn't even aware that Zero HAD hype... o_o Though I think some players rightfully deserve hype for their Proleague performance but then tend to do badly in individual leagues. Some players are just really good at Proleague but then don't do well in the individual leagues. Leta seems to be one of those, and sadly, it seems Bisu has been showing signs of being one of those lately as well :| EffOrts been in like 1 MSL and 2 OSLs, no one has dominated like savior had in 2006. Not even Jaedong can say that yet (although he is very close) I still don't understand how EffOrt/Zero/Fantasy are even ON the list, let alone getting voted. Fantasy has made 2 finals and a semi, winning a tournament is so hard these days that you can't simply win if you are on a streak. (Tell me nowadays who would beat jaedong/stork in a final handily, or a pissed off jaedong in a semi?) EffOrt has never slipped off, he's been consistent in proleague, made it to the upper stages of his first few tournaments, and is a monster overall in the making, compared to when he started and went 2-1 vs tossgirl. ZerO never gets hyped, and when he does, he loses a ZvZ and people bash him and say "lol zero is ment to be good?" | ||
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Ferago
41 Posts
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IdrA
United States11541 Posts
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
And I think Hyuk is getting really decent. | ||
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Kare
Norway786 Posts
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writer22816
United States5775 Posts
On November 06 2009 01:29 UGC4 wrote: im sorry, but how is a 2 times OSL FINALIST + one time semiFINALIST, ALL IN A ROW, an OVERHYPED PLAYER? LOLOLOL. last OSL everyone was saying "oh effort is gonna go far this time" the boy never made it out of his group, neither did flash, fantasy 3-0 that shit WITH STORK in it. the guy is a beast when it comes to individual leagues, if anything i'd say he is underhyped by most ppl. i understand he has haters, but how is he third from last when he shouldnt even be in this list? agree about fantasy but that doesn't mean effort is overhyped, he was in the group of death whereas fantasy only had stork and two other scrubs | ||
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
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thunk
United States6233 Posts
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
On November 06 2009 09:04 koreasilver wrote: If you don't even know who he is then how can you say that he's overhyped? Because he's in the poll? | ||
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iG.SwOrD
Bulgaria183 Posts
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miseiler
United States1389 Posts
On November 05 2009 21:07 QibingZero wrote: Voting for fantasy because he deserves #2 on this poll. Hahahahahha cute. | ||
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538
Hungary3932 Posts
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
I don't think you quite understand the meaning of the term. | ||
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Virtuoso
United States119 Posts
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Noxide
United States2870 Posts
On November 06 2009 09:34 LetMeShine wrote: I'm not sure why Effort and Fantasy are on there. You can make an argument that Fantasy is overrated but they're definitely not overhyped because they generally perform very well both in individual leagues and in proleague. They definitely live up to their hype. Leta is somewhat overhyped with all the bonjwa talk but he generally shows good results in proleague - people just seem to hate him for some reason thus are voting him for that reason, Hyuk isn't really overhyped because its simply the same people spewing the same rubbish over and over and no one really talks about Zero so he's probably underhyped if anything. Really the best option is Skyhigh who simply performs poorly against zerg, with some of the worst medic marine control of any 'high level' player, and protoss despite people claiming how amazing he is. One good matchup doesn't make an ordinary player awesome. Performs well in proleagues but when it matters he always fails. He will never win anything. | ||
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TryThis
Canada1522 Posts
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DreaM)XeRO
Korea (South)4667 Posts
On November 06 2009 15:47 IdrA wrote: effort is underhyped i kinda agree with this. Effort is gonna be the next biggest thing on the broodwar scene Nobody pays that much attention to him b/c of the top zerg as of now (jaedong) | ||
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roronoe
Canada1527 Posts
On November 07 2009 05:04 DreaM)XeRO wrote: i kinda agree with this. Effort is gonna be the next biggest thing on the broodwar scene Nobody pays that much attention to him b/c of the top zerg as of now (jaedong) I'm glad all these people are agreeing with this. Effort is the real deal! Fantasy has too many haters : / | ||
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FalliNinLove
Slovakia865 Posts
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Ferago
41 Posts
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MorroW
Sweden3522 Posts
then a while later ppl relised how simple it actually was to beat his builds, in short words they were cheesy and i agree with that jaedong really is that good, hes so fucking amazing (talking about his zvt cause thats the only vods i see of z match ups) | ||
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inertinept
Bangladesh1195 Posts
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Assymptotic
United States552 Posts
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Ferago
41 Posts
On November 07 2009 09:57 MorroW[MB] wrote: and i agree with that jaedong really is that good, hes so fucking amazing (talking about his zvt cause thats the only vods i see of z match ups) If you think his ZvT is good, you need to watch the rest of his games. His ZvP is better and his ZvZ is just absurd (75-80%). | ||
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SkepTicAL
Canada872 Posts
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ReketSomething
United States6012 Posts
On November 07 2009 13:55 SkepTicAL wrote: Why is hyuk on there, he's 4-1 in PL lol And hence overhyped. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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Mykill
Canada3402 Posts
On November 07 2009 17:56 TwoToneTerran wrote: Haha if this thread were made a few months ago we'd have Violet/Great/Movie/Baby all over it. The fads will pass, guys. Most of the 'omg overyhped' players will end up being pretty solid A-level peeps. yes but none of these are solid A level players Baby and Great? Violet is 4-6 in his last 10 Movie has been decent but even as a CJ fan i wouldnt say he's solid. Its overhyped because none of these players become A level. Effort and Fantasy should be taken off this list. they keep delivering results | ||
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din
Hungary27 Posts
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din
Hungary27 Posts
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Ferago
41 Posts
On November 08 2009 04:21 din wrote: Why does not JD on the list?? His KESPA point is just a nonsense. You people make me sick. | ||
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SkepTicAL
Canada872 Posts
He's beatin jaedong and effort (the 2 best zergs at the moment) while skyhigh is like 0-4 lol. THAT is real over-hyping. | ||
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Abyzou
Sweden209 Posts
 Voted Leta. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On November 07 2009 22:20 Mykill wrote: yes but none of these are solid A level players Baby and Great? Violet is 4-6 in his last 10 Movie has been decent but even as a CJ fan i wouldnt say he's solid. Its overhyped because none of these players become A level. Effort and Fantasy should be taken off this list. they keep delivering results Apparently you've never seen Violet play. The guy is definitively a solid player. Most of his losses are hard fought (Vs Light and Shine, specifically. The game vs Shine is one of the best of the year). Yes, great is an A class zerg. Obviously worse than Calm and Jaedong but about the same level, give or take, as everyone else. I'll give you Baby, but he's like 14 so I think he deserves a little more time to be solid. He's good, but inconsistent. | ||
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leoxander
Poland4 Posts
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Subversive
Australia2229 Posts
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