Exactly. I remember him throwing around phrases like "I pretty sure I will beat anyone outside of Korea", etc. and then didn't even pass through the US Qualifiers....

Puosu

7111 Posts

February 21 2009 19:55 GMT

#1523

I already said it but I don't see anything wrong with IdrA saying he expects to win, nobody is going to take him seriously if he says he expects anything but a win, he is playing in a far more professional environment than F91 currently is so it should've been fairly obvious who is going to win.

Sadly something went wrong, maybe IdrA got too emotionally involved? Maybe F91 just is a very gifted player that with worse practice partners than IdrA he can still do well, maybe the top chinese aren't that different from the people IdrA gets to practice with regularly, how strong is the B-team after all? The chinese surprise me more all the time, I bet they're going to be a big force on the SC2 scene.

Obviously the hate against IdrA is completely understandable knowing his past, being arrogant and blunt about his views, but some of you are just being far too harsh here.

liger13

United States1060 Posts

February 21 2009 20:02 GMT

#1524

On February 22 2009 04:55 Puosu wrote:
I already said it but I don't see anything wrong with IdrA saying he expects to win, nobody is going to take him seriously if he says he expects anything but a win, he is playing in a far more professional environment than F91 currently is so it should've been fairly obvious who is going to win.

Sadly something went wrong, maybe IdrA got too emotionally involved? Maybe F91 just is a very gifted player that with worse practice partners than IdrA he can still do well, maybe the top chinese aren't that different from the people IdrA gets to practice with regularly, how strong is the B-team after all? The chinese surprise me more all the time, I bet they're going to be a big force on the SC2 scene.

Obviously the hate against IdrA is completely understandable knowing his past, being arrogant and blunt about his views, but some of you are just being far too harsh here.

YuMMie

Sweden46 Posts

February 21 2009 20:05 GMT

#1525

9 months in korea and what did Greg "Hey i have a large mouth" Fields accomplish.

From viewing the games

1. He didnt learn anything in 9 months, looked like c+ play, and if he chokes from playing liquibition how is he gonna do in a live tv match (IF he goes to the A-team, wich i doubt).

2. He is still very bad mannered.

so my question is: Why is a big team like CJ spending money and time on this loser?
he does not represent CJ in a good way.

Mooncat

Germany1228 Posts

February 21 2009 20:06 GMT

#1526

The problem is not that he expects to win. Imo he's always behaving as he was the absolute best "foreigner" out there. But as a matter of fact, he's quite far from it. Mondragon, Nony, F91, just to mention a few who totally outclass him imho.

True_Spike

Poland3434 Posts

February 21 2009 20:07 GMT

#1527

Idra's the american Mistrzz.

Except he's worse at BroodWar.

SkelA

Macedonia13092 Posts

February 21 2009 20:09 GMT

#1528

Waiting for youtube vod upload so i can watch the games or the reps soon pls !

Anyway Idra will never do anything in progaming first of all you must be very calm playing this game and his emotions are clearly affecting his game. On top of that even is he plays 25 hours a day he dont have even "T" from Talent or game sense like many top progamers have like Flash Bisu Savior so he is just waisting his time.

And being a big asshole is not helping him at all ...

Lycaeus

United States1420 Posts

February 21 2009 20:09 GMT

#1529

On February 22 2009 05:05 YuMMie wrote:
9 months in korea and what did Greg "Hey i have a large mouth" Fields accomplish.

From viewing the games

1. He didnt learn anything in 9 months, looked like c+ play, and if he chokes from playing liquibition how is he gonna do in a live tv match (IF he goes to the A-team, wich i doubt).

2. He is still very bad mannered.

so my question is: Why is a big team like CJ spending money and time on this loser?
he does not represent CJ in a good way.

I still think and even to this day that CJ wasn't really intending on finding absolute talent from the foreignors but rather an attraction. Face it, foreigner's playing starcraft is just more unique than the influx of koreans raping the scene over and over.

Megalisk

United States6095 Posts

February 21 2009 20:10 GMT

#1530

Hes always being a BM asshole here on the forums, he deserved it,

Too bad Nony isn't in Korea anymore

LuMiX

China5758 Posts

February 21 2009 20:11 GMT

#1531

wow haha F91 raped!

CursOr

United States6335 Posts

February 21 2009 20:15 GMT

#1532

u guys complain about someone being an asshole then u be an asshole?
dont be an asshole.
im sure anyone here would have gotten flattened by either of these guys.
dont talk shit. someone had to win. someone had to lose.

polarwolf

924 Posts

February 21 2009 20:16 GMT

#1533

idra is just a huge failure LOLZ

0xDEADBEEF

Germany1235 Posts

February 21 2009 20:17 GMT

#1534

On February 22 2009 05:05 YuMMie wrote:
so my question is: Why is a big team like CJ spending money and time on this loser?
he does not represent CJ in a good way.

They don't really need foreign players, they could choose any Korean amateur instead.
It's probably because their sponsors want to extend their advertising to outside Korea, so they want to extend the Korean SC scene to include foreigners too.
Maybe it's also an image thing... "hey look we got this 'awesome' player from the US, he's really talented so he can even play on B team and scrub our floors. We're open to foreigners, we're such a great team".
It also seems that they don't really care about who they invite... or else no one would have invited that "Toad" guy who's been in the news recently as the new foreigner who went to Korea - and no one heard of him, so he can't be nearly as good as the others. It's really more like a PR thing. They don't need foreigners, they don't care about their skill. They just want to reach more audience outside of Korea. They're lucky that at least a few of our top foreign players are still crazy enough to go there. And fail.

Well, at least they're all still young, so they can still change their life after they realize that progaming in Korea isn't as great as it looks from the epic showbiz.

Megalisk

United States6095 Posts

February 21 2009 20:17 GMT

#1535

On February 22 2009 05:15 cUrsOr wrote:
u guys complain about someone being an asshole then u be an asshole?
dont be an asshole.
im sure anyone here would have gotten flattened by either of these guys.
dont talk shit. someone had to win. someone had to lose.

We know we can't even touch these guys in SC, but Idra shouldn't have been a conceited douche before the games.

infinity2k9

United Kingdom2397 Posts

February 21 2009 20:18 GMT

#1536

If it was anyone else no one would have commented. But act like an asshole and have a reputation for it and people are going to say things ofc.

Not_Computer

Canada2277 Posts

February 21 2009 20:19 GMT

#1537

Ah, I missed the entire thing

But I was right! Suckers!

tdotkrayz

United States136 Posts

February 21 2009 20:22 GMT

#1538

Well, we've seen the same thing before at the TSL people. Again and again, it's been proven but nobody seems to notice...

Only asians can play starcraft.

Osmoses

Sweden5302 Posts

February 21 2009 20:25 GMT

#1539

Oh my, there seems to be alot of e-drama going on with this liquibition, could I have an ETA on the vods as I slept through the whole thing? =)