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Last Edited: 2008-10-14 06:31:33
October 12 2008 21:24 GMT
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Revenge Club
Groups F, Group D, and Ro16 Preview


I'm taking over the MSL from DeadVessel, so you guys are stuck with me until next season. This will be the first time I've ever covered a league by myself, and the first time I've written an official news summary in over one and a half years. I even spent some time and made a bracket (which makes me appreciate even more what our FX guys have to do). Even though Savior is eliminated from this MSL, I'm still super excited to cover it.

Note: this newspost contains both MSL and OSL spoilers, so reader beware!

Newspost Teaser:
- Preview of the Ro16, and the nightmarish possibility of an all Samsung semifinals
- The epic disaster that was Group D
- Why this is the Revenge Club (Day Online) MSL
- Stork-face sightings and OGN's bizzaro Zerg matchups
- Club Gay Online MSL: Possible QF between (P)Pretty and (T)CuteAngel
- Why FBH might be destined to win this MSL
- How I can work Savior winning Blizzcon into an MSL newspost
- Many, many HUQs (HotBid's Unrelated Question, translated to Korean as HUK??) and footnotes



Group F
1. (Z)type-b[s.g] 2-0 ► Advances to Round of 16
2. (T)Memory 2-1 ► Advances to Round of 16
3. (T)Lomo 1-2 ► Eliminated
4. (T)Canata 0-2 ► Eliminated
+ Show Spoiler [Full Game Results] +
Game 1: (T)Lomo < (Z)type-b[s.g] on Byzantium 2
Game 2: (T)Canata < (T)Memory on Medusa
Winners: (Z)type-b[s.g] > (T)Memory on Destination
Losers: (T)Lomo > (T)Canata on Destination
Final: (T)Memory > (T)Lomo on Athena 2

"Type-b changes id to type-gg; Memory refuses to be Lomowned"
+ Show Spoiler [My Thoughts] +
Who is type-b? He's an OGN Zerg who has yet to officially lose ZvT (6-0). I don't know what they feed the Zergs at the Sparkyz house, but type-b is the 348957th good ZvT player to come from that team. As you may have guessed, he also has typical disaster-level OGN ZvP. However, that didn't stop him from beating Stork in a critical Ace match last week in Proleague with a lurker-ling natural bust. I was cheering for type-b not only because he was one of the few Zergs left in this MSL, but also because anyone that forces the Stork Face™ to come out earns my support.¹

Regardless, type-b looked impressive in his two games, with well planned and unique strategies that were well executed.. He did an ultralisk rush in Game 1 against Lomo, cutting off reinforcements and making his muta-ling force count by only engaging when he had the advantage. All his decisions were smart and decisive, and in addition to the trademark OGN muta micro, he just displayed an overall good understanding of the matchup, delaying Lomo's ball until he had upgraded ultras ready. In his winners match against Memory, type-b never took a third gas, instead just drop harassing until Memory ran out of scans.

Memory also advanced. He made the Ro8 three seasons ago in GomTV3, losing in a close series to eventual champion Mind. But he didn't make it out of the Ro32 the last two seasons, so this is a pretty good step for him. Plus, he's CJ so we know he a) works hard, b) isn't racist against white people, and c) is worth cheering for.

However, the other two guys were disappointments. Canata is SKT1's TvT ace yet ended 0-2, both games being TvT. Remember when this guy was the next big SKT1 Terran? That seems like so long ago, and Canata is now just a mediocre Terrans in a sea of mediocre Terrans. Lomo pushed Flash to the limit in the Arena MSL Ro8 and Jaedong to the limit in GOM S1 Ro8. These results made him seem like a real up and coming player. This Ro32 loss is a big step backward, but at least Lecaf now has another player that can be dedicated to ProLeague.

If you want a detailed recap of the TvTs check out the footnotes at the bottom of this newspost.²


Group D
1. (T)firebathero 2-0 ► Advances to Round of 16
2. (P)Bisu 2-1 ► Advances to Round of 16
3. (P)Much 1-2 ► Eliminated
4. (P)BackHo 0-2 ► Eliminated
+ Show Spoiler [Full Game Results] +
Game 1: (P)Much < (T)firebathero on Destination
Game 2: (P)Bisu > (P)BackHo on Athena 2
Winners: (P)Bisu < (T)firebathero on Byzantium 2
Losers: (P)Much > (P)BackHo on Byzantium 2
Final: (P)Bisu > (P)Much on Medusa

"Much gets heartburn; FBH dances into the Ro16; Bisu avoids worst weekend ever"
+ Show Spoiler [My Thoughts] +
Wow. I was so sure firebathero was going to get destroyed in this group. Instead, he goes 2-0 and helps eliminate his rival Much. As much as I hate FBH, I have to admit this was a ballsy and amazing performance by him, and yet another reason why we can't underestimate just how quickly a progamer can turn around his worst matchup (see Jaedong's ZvP for more proof). It kills me to say this, but FBH backed up his ridiculous talk in the Group selection. FBH, this doesn't change anything between us. I still hate you, but you've earned my respect (at least temporarily).

The MSL was correct to put this group last, as the drama and games were predictably epic. FBH played decisively and aggressively in the first set, successfully bunker rushing Much's 14nex and then using dropships to harass while pushing. The intentional D-Matrix on Much's dragoon was a funny and deserved move given the history between these two guys.

FBH faced Bisu in the Winners match after Bisu dispatched BackHo with superior reaver control in a less than interesting PvP. The FBH-Bisu game was amazing, turning into a late game elimination race. Throughout the game FBH was relentless with his drops, and this impacted Bisu's economy that FBH was able to defend one final Bisu attack on his last mining base. With these two wins, FBH qualified for the Ro16 and also crushed a legion of haters, myself included.

In the Losers' match, both players go dark templars, but Much manages to block BackHo's ramp with a hold position DT and thus gets his expansion up earlier. Much would ride this advantage to victory, doing a cool gateway block to help stop BackHo's last desperate attack.

Thanks to FBH, one of the two players I wanted to advance out of this group would fall. As a CJ fan I was pulling for Much, but Bisu had more at stake. Bisu was playing in the OSL, MSL, and GOM leagues this weekend, and had just lost to Stork in the OSL despite having a decisive advantage in Game 3. The FBH loss was bad, but if Bisu lost the final match here, he'd be eliminated from both major leagues in less than 24 hours. We'd likely see a drunken, incoherent Bisu on Monday.

The finals were decided again by Bisu's superior reaver control. Bisu harassed better with his reavers and in the critical battle at his natural, used his shuttle to force Much's reavers to waste many shots. Much lost his entire army while all three of Bisu's reavers survived the battle. Bisu wins shortly after and breathes a big sigh of relief.

(Poor Much! T.T)





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Bracket by Hot_Bid


This is the Revenge Club MSL because there are so many big grudge rivalries already with the potential for many more. We had Nada beating Savior for Shinhan3, FBH getting Much back for the heart, and the potential for more drama in the Ro8 with Stork-Iris and Jaedong-Frozean matchups possible.

The weakest part of the bracket is clearly the bottom left, and Jangbi should advance easily from there. However, every other quadrant is nuts, and nobody has an easy road. Jaedong looks to have the most difficult path to the finals, running a gauntlet of players that are good against Zerg, including a possible semifinals matchup with Bisu–but only if he can get through his nemesis Frozean first.

We could see four Samsung players reach the semifinals. We could see a rematch of Arena (ForGG vs Jaedong), a rematch of Ever 08 (Stork vs Jaedong), a rematch of GomTV4 (Jaedong vs Kal), a rematch of the GomTV2 (Stork vs Bisu), or even NaDa winning his seventh major title. Whatever happens, it's going to be dramatic and exciting.

If it is the same as last season, the format for the Ro16 will be Bo3 with the higher seed allowed to thumb-down one of the four maps.³



(P)Stork vs (T)fOrGG
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Player / Matchup / Last 10 / Last 3 Months / Head-to-Head
(P)Stork / PvT / 9-1 / 9-0 / 2-1
(T)fOrGG / TvP / 5-5 / 3-4 / 1-2

Defending champ with ridiculous macro against the best PvT on the planet with ridiculous macro. These two met in WCG Korea back in August and Stork came out on top 2-0. Since Stork is again going strong in both the OSL and MSL, and we're in Stork-territory (not the Finals), I have to give a pretty big edge to him. He's on a ridiculous PvT streak while ForGG has lost his last 5 TvPs.

HUK?? if Stork played ForGG in MBS-enabled SC2, would the computers explode from macro overload?



(P)Kal vs (T)Iris
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Player / Matchup / Last 10 / Last 3 Months / Head-to-Head
(P)Kal / PvT / 5-5 / 4-4 / 0-0
(T)Iris / TvP / 6-4 / 4-3 / 0-0

These two are poster children for the competitive and cutthroat nature of the Starcraft progaming scene in Korea. Three seasons ago Iris was one game away from the OSL title and two seasons ago Kal was in the MSL finals. Both are trying to recapture past magic. Neither have played many TvP/PvT games recently, save for Kal beating Sea to get to the Ro16. I'd say Iris has a bit of an edge here just in overall momentum, having barely missed the OSL.⁴

Unfortunately I wouldn't give either of these two guys much of a chance against whoever comes out of Stork-ForGG, but this series is still critical as its for a seed.

HUK?? How mad is FakeSteve that his two most hated Protoss players, Kal and BackHo, combined to eliminate Sea from the MSL?



(P)JangBi vs (T)Memory
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Player / Matchup / Last 10 / Last 3 Months / Head-to-Head
(P)JangBi / PvT / 3-4 / 6-4 / 1-0
(T)Memory / TvP / 1-0 / 4-6 / 0-1

Jangbi looked invincible in his 2-0 steamrolling of Nada in the quarters of Blizzcon, then choked pretty badly in the LB Semis when $5000 was riding on it. In case you were wondering, Savior won the whole thing. Anyway, with a grand total of 10 TvPs and only one in the past few months, Memory's strength in that matchup is a giant question mark. I think Memory's 12 hours of practice a day⁶ makes this match close, but he's still the underdog. Jangbi can basically taste the Semifinals with two OGN Zergs as possible future opponents.

HUK?? How is it possible that Samsung has one guy in the OSL Semis, four guys in the MSL Ro16, and they are 0-2 in Proleague? How does this even remotely make sense?



(Z)type-b[s.g] vs (Z)YellOw[ArnC]
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Player / Matchup / Last 10 / Last 3 Months / Head-to-Head
(Z)type-b[s.g] / ZvZ / 3-1 / 0-0 / 1-0
(Z)YellOw[ArnC] / ZvZ / 3-7 / 1-0 / 0-1

Ever since Luxury bolted to KTF, do you think type-b has been Yarnc's new best friend? Now they face each other. Who are they going to practice with? I want type-b to advance so we can see his version of the lurker/spore/sunken OGN turtlefest ZvP. Anyway, Yarnc's been 3-7 in his last 10 ZvZs, but his last two games were wins over Jaedong and July. Type-b has played only one official ZvZ in the past year, and four total in his career (wins over Orion, HyunJun, and Ever)Z(Maru).

I'm sure these two play each other a ton in practice so anything can happen. At this point, type-b is playing with house money. He has nothing to lose and that makes him dangerous. Hilariously, either of these two Zergs can be easily bounced out of the next round if they face Jangbi, but both could also reach the finals if the Terrans line up the bracket correctly. Can you imagine a Jaedong vs Type-b MSL Finals? Contemplate this as the MSL sponsors collectively light themselves on fire.

HUK?? Luxury leaves for KTF and Yarnc 2-0's KTF's only hope for a title this season (Flash). I heard Lux and Flash were being buddy buddy on battle.net before the trade, and I bet Yarnc was jealous as hell. Did fake Yellow have extra motivation in his MSL group!?



(T)firebathero vs (P)Tempest
+ Show Spoiler [Show Stats] +
Player / Matchup / Last 10 / Last 3 Months / Head-to-Head
(T)firebathero / TvP / 5-5 / 2-2 / 0-0
(P)Tempest / PvT / 4-2 / 3-2 / 0-0

FBH's TvP looked especially strong when he incorporated dropships into his build. However, Tempest will have undoubtedly watched the Group D matches and be more prepared for this style. The big question is will Tempest's inexperience (less than 10 total TV games) cost him?

It kills me to say this, but after advancing, FBH's emphatic dance in front of the bright lights and colorful Club Day logo is the defining moment of the MSL so far. He is that little red dancing man. Since I am a fair and balanced news reporter, I won't let my anti-FBH bias get in the way. Thus I have rewarded FBH with a special icon in the bracket.

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Could this be the final image after the MSL finals? I certainly hope not. While FBH has momentum, his road lies through Bisu, Hwasin, Jaedong, and Stork. While he will have a tough time against those guys, he won't against Tempest. If he plays like he did in Group D, FBH will go to the Ro8.

HUK?? What is that special feeling surrounding the two new guys Tempest and Fantasy (in the OSL)? The answer could be that they follow in the footsteps of legends: Tempest is a KTF Protoss and Fantasy an SKT1 Terran.



(P)Bisu vs (T)Hwasin
+ Show Spoiler [Show Stats] +
Player / Matchup / Last 10 / Last 3 Months / Head-to-Head
(T)Hwasin / TvP / 2-8 / 0-1 / 4-8
(P)Bisu / PvT / 3-7 / 3-9 / 8-4

I laughed out loud as soon as I read this pairing. These two guys hate each other. Bonjwa Bisu called Hwasin his "insurance" pick during the Daum OSL group selection and even used scouts against him. Amazingly they are meeting again in an MSL, with Hwasin still looking for revenge.

The bad news for Hwasin is that he's only played one TvP in the last three months, and is 2-8 in his last ten. The good news for Hwasin is that Bisu's record is equally bad. However, Bisu has a decisive lead in head-to-head matches. More importantly, Bisu is 2-0 in BoX matches against Hwasin, with both series going to the last deciding game. That is likely what is going to happen here, Bisu taking a close series 2-1.

HUK?? Does anyone else think that we're getting dangerously close to Hwasin-snaps-and-kills-Bisu-irl territory? Just one or two more series losses...



(T)FrOzean vs (T)NaDa
+ Show Spoiler [Show Stats] +
Player / Matchup / Last 10 / Last 3 Months / Head-to-Head
Frozean / TvT / 6-4 / 4-0 / 0-0
Nada / TvT / 3-7 / 3-3 / 0-0

Frozean's TvT has traditionally been a week point, but recently he's on a 4-0 streak. Despite the disparity in career achievements, Frozean is the better player and the favorite. Nada is not going to overwhelm him with force and mechanics like a Jaedong or Stork type player. Yet Nada is still capable of doing a few smart plays to take a series.⁷ Nada will play solid but it's Frozean's series to lose.

I find this series uninteresting, but it has huge implications for the next round. The winner of this will likely face Jaedong in the next round. Frozean's TvZ record is mediocre but somehow he manages to beat Jaedong in single game sets. For this reason I actually want Frozean to win so we can see him in a Bo5 against LJD.

For the record, I will never, ever refer to Frozean as "CuteAngel" unless its to make fun of him. You simply cannot call yourself "CuteAngel" and expect to be taken seriously.

HUK?? How does everyone on Samsung find a way to get me to dislike them? FBH, Stork, Frozean, and even Odin just annoy me for one reason or another. Even Jangbi does, and I can't even explain why. Here they are with four players in the MSL, and CJ has no Savior and no Much to stop them. Pardon me while I take a bat to my roommate's Samsung monitor.



(P)free vs (Z)Jaedong
+ Show Spoiler [Show Stats] +
Player / Matchup / Last 10 / Last 3 Months / Head-to-Head
Free / PvZ / 6-4 / 5-3 / 5-5
Jaedong / ZvP / 9-1 / 12-1 / 5-5

Poor Free. Poor, poor Free. He always finds way to be eliminated in the most heartbreaking ways possible. He's a veteran now, forced to carry a sub-par Stars team in Proleague while Hanbit withdraws their sponsorship. Free still fought and clawed his way into the Ro16, and Woojin stepped in to secure the team's future. Boy, things are finally going great! Free thought to himself, still excited after advancing in his group 2-0. All he needs is to win one Bo3 against go.go, Frozean, or UpMagic and Free will earn a seed into the next MSL.

Can you imagine Free watch Jaedong drop a game to Frozean, and now he has to play the best ZvP player ever? Poor free. Yes, Free and Jaedong have plenty of history, meeting in Survivor, Proleague, and recently WCG Korea. The record looks even at 5-5, but it doesn't even begin to describe how big a favorite Jaedong is in this series.

Free's been solid in PvZ, as always. But it's not going to matter. Jaedong could be playing Jesus himself and still win. Jaedong is a hilarious 16-3 in ZvP since winning the GomTV4 MSL against Kal. He's done it against the best P's in the world too. 2-1 Bisu, 4-0 Much, 2-0 Free, 3-1 Best, 2-0 Stork. It will take a miracle for Free to win this series.

HUK?? Hwasin is basically the Terran version of Free, with a solid, conservative style but zero title wins. Who is the "Zerg Free"? Is it even possible?



That's all for now. Next week we'll see the first game in all eight sets. The real drama happens the week after with the deciding games. See you then!



1 – The "I can't believe I'm losing in a critical situation... AGAIN" face made by Stork every time this happens. Also known as the face Stork has on for the entire duration of any Starleague Final he's in. Formerly known as the YellOw Face.

2 – There were lots of tanks goliaths dropships and wraiths built, and generally the guy with more of these came out ahead.

3 – Did Samsung just like collectively decide to stop practicing for PL and focus on individual leagues? Because they got one guy in the OSL Semis, four guys in the MSL Ro16 and they are last place in Proleague. Editors note: they managed to win last night.

4 – Athena 2, Byzantium 2, Destination, Medusa

5 – Iris barely missed the Incruit OSL Ro16. He beat Pusan 2-1 but lost to Bisu 1-2.

6 – See IdrA's Blizzcon interview about CJ practice methods

7 – See Nada's LB Finals win against Jangbi
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rA.Hippie
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Denmark714 Posts
October 12 2008 21:34 GMT
#2
Awesome writeup. NIce read !
I love teh shisha.
illeszt
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States350 Posts
October 12 2008 21:35 GMT
#3
LOL I LOVE THE FBH ICON IN THE BRACKETS!!
DownMaxX
Profile Joined August 2008
Canada1311 Posts
October 12 2008 21:36 GMT
#4
That was a really fun writeup! Thanks Hot_Bid.
parasite
Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
October 12 2008 21:39 GMT
#5
Loved your footnotes.
AIV_Funnytoss and sGs.Funnytoss on iCCup
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14893 Posts
October 12 2008 21:40 GMT
#6
pulling for the protoss players as always
ray1234
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada679 Posts
October 12 2008 21:40 GMT
#7
GOGO DANCING FBH!!!

please make that icon available as a team logo or mood emoticon! or at least use it for TLPD-izing
go OVERSKY MODE!
noname_
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
457 Posts
October 12 2008 21:40 GMT
#8
Great writeup!
GrandInquisitor *
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
New York City13113 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-12 21:43:22
October 12 2008 21:42 GMT
#9
your newspost rocks

That seems like so long ago, and Canata is now just a mediocre Terrans in a sea of mediocre Terrans

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
What fun is it being cool if you can’t wear a sombrero?
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10828 Posts
October 12 2008 21:43 GMT
#10
i'd have to disagree with your predicted result of nada vs frozean.

seeing nada play tvt vs xellos live... it really made me believe in him. how the hell does someone move that quickly and accurately? absolutely ridiculous. and then he blocked an all-in rush against xellos when he had FE'd. they both started with 3 tanks, xellos ends up with zero, nada has all 3 remaining. WTF?
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spydernoob
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada1066 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-12 21:49:07
October 12 2008 21:48 GMT
#11
fbh to win msl ( unless he faces stork) but stork may choke
wraiths go pew pew
TheTyranid
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Russian Federation4333 Posts
October 12 2008 21:50 GMT
#12
I like both Savior and Firebathero.
Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-12 22:01:17
October 12 2008 21:57 GMT
#13
I post pretty rarely but this time I feel compelled to say that this is a very, very good writeup.
RamenStyle
Profile Joined September 2004
United States1929 Posts
October 12 2008 21:59 GMT
#14
I'm not particularly a fan of FBH(although I don't hate him like many here) but if he wins the whole thing and makes the crotch dance... well, Club Day sponsorship for next season will be a go. "FBH Club Day MSL 2: The Crotch Battle".

Anyways, my money is on Jangbi or JD. I don't think they will be both finalists, but one of them will, and whoever it is, will take the title.
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
October 12 2008 22:02 GMT
#15
BEST NEWSPOST EVAR

oh man I cracked up so many times... and let's hope that samsung players all lose in the first round
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
Realpenguin
Profile Joined December 2006
8253 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-12 22:06:36
October 12 2008 22:05 GMT
#16
Really nice newspost. This Ro16 looks like it will be great, bunch of players that I love watching.

On October 13 2008 06:24 Hot_Bid wrote:
- Club Gay Online MSL: Possible QF between (P)Pretty and (T)CuteAngel

ROFL (and they are 2 of my favorite players, does that make me gay?)
<Wolfpox> i remember when MVP beat that one guy, and everyone was like 'whoa' except that penguin dude.
Lenwe
Profile Joined March 2008
Netherlands757 Posts
October 12 2008 22:11 GMT
#17
Jeadong vs Bisu semifinals please!

And nice write-up.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
October 12 2008 22:13 GMT
#18
Great write up, would read again
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and again.
SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-12 22:15:31
October 12 2008 22:14 GMT
#19
Great writeup, but I gotta call you out on this. :p

Here they are with four players in the MSL, and CJ has none.

Iris and Memory?

(And both play Samsung players. Gooo CJ!)
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Kitkatzy
Profile Joined May 2008
United States213 Posts
October 12 2008 22:17 GMT
#20
I really enjoyed reading your write up, even though you hate samsung so much

great job FBH!!
Curse Kitkatz
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9103 Posts
October 12 2008 22:18 GMT
#21
Nice write up Hot_bid. I enjoyed the HUK comments lol.
ilovejonn
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada2548 Posts
October 12 2008 22:20 GMT
#22
wow this is really nice, i liked the HUKS!!
Snowflakes in January, Heart warm like February, I wouldn't ordinarily..
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Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Sweden585 Posts
October 12 2008 22:23 GMT
#23
Awesome update! How big of a majority will be girls in the audience on Bisu vs Hwasin?
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-12 22:32:06
October 12 2008 22:28 GMT
#24
On October 13 2008 07:14 SonuvBob wrote:
Great writeup, but I gotta call you out on this. :p

Show nested quote +
Here they are with four players in the MSL, and CJ has none.

Iris and Memory?

(And both play Samsung players. Gooo CJ!)

oh shit ill edit rofl wtf

well iris plays kal
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Pangolin
Profile Joined March 2008
United States1035 Posts
October 12 2008 22:32 GMT
#25
On October 13 2008 07:02 Sunyveil wrote:
BEST NEWSPOST EVAR

oh man I cracked up so many times... and let's hope that samsung players all lose in the first round
It's easier not to.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
October 12 2008 22:33 GMT
#26
Eensy little nitpick ---

"2-1 Bisu, 4-0 Much, 2-0 Free, 3-1 Best, 2-0 Stork. It will take a miracle for Free to win this series."

Nice write-up! I liked how you went to the trouble of talking about each individual matchup. Thanks!
May the BeSt man win.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
October 12 2008 22:34 GMT
#27
On October 13 2008 07:33 Djabanete wrote:
Eensy little nitpick ---

"2-1 Bisu, 4-0 Much, 2-0 Free, 3-1 Best, 2-0 Stork. It will take a miracle for Free to win this series."

Nice write-up! I liked how you went to the trouble of talking about each individual matchup. Thanks!

thanks, edited
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
October 12 2008 22:36 GMT
#28
Thanks for writing up about your predictions for every matchup- It was a lot more entertaining to read than most of the smaller newsposts.
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thunk
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States6233 Posts
October 12 2008 22:43 GMT
#29

HUK?? How is it possible that Samsung has one guy in the OSL Semis, four guys in the MSL Ro16, and they are 0-2 in Proleague? How does this even remotely make sense?


Very easily. Samsung is bad and they played against OGN and SKT1, both decent proleague teams (I acknowledge that they beat KTF, but KTF without Flash is like Woojin without Free). The MSL is comparatively is easier to get into than the OSL, and Stork isn't going to lose until the finals.

If Samsung was a square knot, SKT1 is Gordian's knot: SKT1 is 1-2 (Losing to Estro), had 4 players in the Ro8 (the harder of the individual leagues to get into), and has 2 players in the Semi-finals, probably more than Samsung will have in the semi-finals of the MSL, and only has one player in all of the MSL.

I'm glad that you acknowledge that Tempest and Fantasy follow in footsteps of legends. It haven't been mentioned in a TL.net newspost yet.

Nice write up.
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DhakhaR
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United Kingdom721 Posts
October 12 2008 22:43 GMT
#30
On October 13 2008 06:24 Hot_Bid wrote:
In case you were wondering, Savior won the whole thing.


LOL, nice mention

Very nice write-up overall, especially since its your first one is quite a while. Nice bracket too, loving the firebat hero logo :-D
DanceCommander
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1808 Posts
October 12 2008 22:48 GMT
#31
great writeup man, cant see why you would ever stop writing
lakrismamma
Profile Joined August 2006
Sweden543 Posts
October 12 2008 22:48 GMT
#32
Really great written!
I dont get why you spoil OSL BIsu vs Stork though. That was like only 2 days ago.
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nujabes
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States286 Posts
October 12 2008 22:57 GMT
#33
bisu vs hwasin hypeeeee
wswordsmen
Profile Joined October 2007
United States987 Posts
October 12 2008 23:00 GMT
#34
Why didn't you have Jaedong's ZvP stats start at Ever07 finals? He has been 25-6 since he beat stork and is suspected of throwing a couple of the games. I would argue that 25-6 is more impressive than 16-3 since it is harder to hold such a high percentage for a long period of time.
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
October 12 2008 23:02 GMT
#35
Dude this newspost is amazing
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-12 23:03:33
October 12 2008 23:02 GMT
#36
On October 13 2008 07:48 lakrismamma wrote:
Really great written!
I dont get why you spoil OSL BIsu vs Stork though. That was like only 2 days ago.

sorry T.T

i can't really spoiler it because it's still obvious given the entire paragraph, and would have to spoiler the title and everything too
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
October 12 2008 23:04 GMT
#37
On October 13 2008 08:00 wswordsmen wrote:
Why didn't you have Jaedong's ZvP stats start at Ever07 finals? He has been 25-6 since he beat stork and is suspected of throwing a couple of the games. I would argue that 25-6 is more impressive than 16-3 since it is harder to hold such a high percentage for a long period of time.

because i didn't want to reach back into last year for stats, especially since Jaedong's ZvP has changed from when he played stork in Ever07
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dinmsab
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Malaysia2246 Posts
October 12 2008 23:14 GMT
#38
One of the most interesting things i've read on the front pages of TL. Good work!!
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useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
October 12 2008 23:20 GMT
#39
i like those green banners and brackets

and group D def looked like a great set. i gotta find and watch those games
Moonlight Shadow
NiGoL
Profile Joined September 2008
1868 Posts
October 12 2008 23:22 GMT
#40
type seems really strong nowdays.
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Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
October 12 2008 23:30 GMT
#41
lovely read.
.risingdragoon
Profile Joined January 2008
United States3021 Posts
October 12 2008 23:40 GMT
#42
HotBid you really need to write more often
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SonuvBob
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Aiur21549 Posts
October 12 2008 23:47 GMT
#43
Oh hm, I thought Kal was on Samsung.
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ahole-surprise
Profile Joined August 2007
United States813 Posts
October 12 2008 23:54 GMT
#44
Please write more of these. Awesome article.
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anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
October 12 2008 23:56 GMT
#45
Nada > all plz.
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MCMcEmcee
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1609 Posts
October 12 2008 23:59 GMT
#46
very nice write-up, hope CJ knocks Samsung's MSL title hopes down a peg, even if I'm not a huge fan of Memory.
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
October 13 2008 00:04 GMT
#47
On October 13 2008 08:40 .risingdragoon wrote:
HotBid you really need to write more often

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R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
October 13 2008 00:17 GMT
#48
excellent write up

making deadvessel run for his money

and... freakin FBH
ggyo...
ScarFace
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1175 Posts
October 13 2008 00:18 GMT
#49
I agree with virtually all that was written here [except that jaedong is the best zvp ever, that is saviors territory] and congratulate you on a very well written article, that is both informative and unique in style.

Can you dig it?
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
October 13 2008 00:22 GMT
#50
LOL Stork Face - it's so true.

'How is it possible that Samsung has one guy in the OSL Semis, four guys in the MSL Ro16, and they are 0-2 in Proleague? How does this even remotely make sense?'

I think the loss of the 2v2 games really hit Samsung hard this season, They had one of the strongest team play squads (TT + Jihyun with Cuteboy on back up.) and often during proleague matches it was the 2v2 victory that allowed them to take the advantage or even the score. The win on Sunday was a boost, plus Hades' win earlier in the week, but their zerg line up is still somewhat weaker in comparison to having a strong front with the other races.
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Felagund
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Philippines504 Posts
October 13 2008 01:04 GMT
#51
Damn, I love it every time Hot_Bid comes out and writes something. The Top 10 ShinHan-3 OSL moments, the GOMTV3 Preview, and now this.

Oh, a little nitpick, Bisu used Hwasin as an insurance in Daum, not in an MSL.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-13 01:20:13
October 13 2008 01:06 GMT
#52
On October 13 2008 10:04 Felagund wrote:
Damn, I love it every time Hot_Bid comes out and writes something. The Top 10 ShinHan-3 OSL moments, the GOMTV3 Preview, and now this.

Oh, a little nitpick, Bisu used Hwasin as an insurance in Daum, not in an MSL.

oh ok, changing

edit: also, thanks for the compliment
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PanoRaMa
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States5069 Posts
October 13 2008 01:09 GMT
#53
that was a fantastic write up, loved many of the lines in that one. great work
only_human89
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States212 Posts
October 13 2008 01:11 GMT
#54
Hey im kinda new and Iv'e been having trouble locating live streams of these games or even vod's. Where do the majority of you watch these games anyways?
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ShmotZ
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States581 Posts
October 13 2008 01:37 GMT
#55
+ Show Spoiler +
Jaedong could be playing Jesus himself and still win.


i beg to differ, jesus plays ZERG.
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Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
October 13 2008 01:43 GMT
#56
Amazing Write-Up!

Good work Hot_Bid
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Augury
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States758 Posts
October 13 2008 01:45 GMT
#57
Great write up, thanks a bunch
dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
October 13 2008 02:00 GMT
#58
this msl is delcioussss
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
October 13 2008 02:10 GMT
#59
the fbh icon owns

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FreeDoM[YA]
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Canada855 Posts
October 13 2008 02:53 GMT
#60
Very very nice writeup!
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
October 13 2008 03:01 GMT
#61
Cheers, HB.
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HonestTea *
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
5007 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-13 03:02:49
October 13 2008 03:02 GMT
#62
See, if it were up to me, I'd just put this into the FE, news or not

(and yeah I'm reading Martin~)
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economist_
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Vietnam719 Posts
October 13 2008 03:03 GMT
#63
Great write up, cant wait for the revenge Stork vs ForGG.
Bisu vs Hwasin? hahaha
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xxsaznpride
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States506 Posts
October 13 2008 03:39 GMT
#64
On October 13 2008 06:57 Matoo- wrote:
I post pretty rarely but this time I feel compelled to say that this is a very, very good writeup.

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mtmf
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Brazil420 Posts
October 13 2008 04:15 GMT
#65
On October 13 2008 08:02 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2008 07:48 lakrismamma wrote:
Really great written!
I dont get why you spoil OSL BIsu vs Stork though. That was like only 2 days ago.

sorry T.T

i can't really spoiler it because it's still obvious given the entire paragraph, and would have to spoiler the title and everything too


Well, you could add a warning at the beginning of the post that it contains spoilers from both OSL and Proleague recent games (and maybe Blizzcon in case anyone was in the moon this weekend...)

I really wanted to watch KTF vs Samsung without knowing the final results...
And you managed to spoil that in an edited footnote... hehehe
Amazing write up anyway!!! Thanks!!!
Good to know we are stuck with you till the next season!!!
(–_–)
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36375 Posts
October 13 2008 04:23 GMT
#66
ok i added a warning in
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Tianx
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States1196 Posts
October 13 2008 05:10 GMT
#67
Your write-up is the best thing I've read all week. Thank you for making the world a better place.
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BlinkNudie
Profile Joined May 2008
Malaysia49 Posts
October 13 2008 05:57 GMT
#68
<3 FBH LOL sorry to annoy you like samsung players xD! Have fun writting for the rest of the season!

Good job
=)~ Newbie
brie.mihai
Profile Joined April 2007
Romania95 Posts
October 13 2008 06:04 GMT
#69
very nice writeup. cheers
DeepGray
Profile Joined October 2008
United States214 Posts
October 13 2008 06:24 GMT
#70
Jaedong could be playing Jesus himself and still win.

Especially since our Savior decided to make Jaedong his role model recently!
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
October 13 2008 06:45 GMT
#71
On October 13 2008 15:24 DeepGray wrote:
Show nested quote +
Jaedong could be playing Jesus himself and still win.

Especially since our Savior decided to make Jaedong his role model recently!


good thing too- I'm hoping that it looks like savior is going to make a july style comeback.
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foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
October 13 2008 07:08 GMT
#72
Great write-up. :D
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luiohh
Profile Joined February 2008
Bangladesh78 Posts
October 13 2008 08:23 GMT
#73
On October 13 2008 06:57 Matoo- wrote:
I post pretty rarely but this time I feel compelled to say that this is a very, very good writeup.


Same. I actually went to the trouble of getting a new password because i forgot mine so i could log on and praise your writeup. The footnotes and the HUKs are icing on the cake. More please!
Jaeden
Profile Joined September 2008
Romania1489 Posts
October 13 2008 08:42 GMT
#74
On October 13 2008 Hot_Bid wrote:
But it's not going to matter. Jaedong could be playing Jesus himself and still win.


Awesome writeup! THANK YOU!
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darkemperor
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Turkey725 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-13 09:24:36
October 13 2008 09:23 GMT
#75
WOW That was amazing Hot_Bid ^_^ !!

F.king FBH , I hate him so much like Cartman hates Kyle ... This guy is totally stupid and if I could I put a bullet in his head , and Stork is too I hope Bisu will crush him in Ro8 and take revenge for what he did in group matches.

P.S: Waiting from Bisu to dance against FBH and Stork after he defeats them
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SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
October 13 2008 09:44 GMT
#76
=)
Nice~
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kpcrew
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1071 Posts
October 13 2008 13:35 GMT
#77
great job
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Showtime!
Profile Joined November 2007
Canada2938 Posts
October 13 2008 15:07 GMT
#78
FBH icon is sick and I love the footnotes HB.
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Sprite
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1015 Posts
October 13 2008 22:40 GMT
#79
On October 13 2008 18:23 darkemperor wrote:
WOW That was amazing Hot_Bid ^_^ !!

F.king FBH , I hate him so much like Cartman hates Kyle ... This guy is totally stupid and if I could I put a bullet in his head , and Stork is too I hope Bisu will crush him in Ro8 and take revenge for what he did in group matches.

P.S: Waiting from Bisu to dance against FBH and Stork after he defeats them



Bisu got eliminated from OSL by Stork LOL WUT.
And this is FBH's MSL their isn't a Zeus to meet him in finals to have a dance off.
Firebathero is still the best!
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
October 14 2008 01:00 GMT
#80
forGG can take this title if he just gets past Stork now. Although he hit a bit of a rough spot in his TvP, it really was against the world's best PvTers. For an Arena MSL rematch, I couldn't say who would take this.
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Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
October 14 2008 02:35 GMT
#81
It would be so appropriate if FBH wins this MSL.
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XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2270 Posts
October 14 2008 05:39 GMT
#82
evry single win of FBH is not appropiate imo...
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darkemperor
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Turkey725 Posts
October 14 2008 12:53 GMT
#83
BISU will rock !!! I hope FBH can make it to Ro8 and face with BISU .

C'MOOON BISU , you can beat the crap out of him !!!
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Fx_
Profile Joined April 2008
503 Posts
October 19 2008 11:06 GMT
#84
fOrGG must be well prepared to a meeting Stork....
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