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MrRammstein
Profile Joined May 2008
Poland339 Posts
July 22 2008 01:03 GMT
#21
THANK YOU SO MUCH, this is all I need ^^
account abandoned:P RIP
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
July 22 2008 01:39 GMT
#22
This is the best writeup tl.net has ever done
PhotographerLiquipedia. Drop me a pm if you've got questions/need help.
jingXD
Profile Joined May 2007
United States283 Posts
July 22 2008 01:55 GMT
#23
On July 22 2008 06:34 Neo Elemental wrote:
Hey, here's an idea I've had for a while...How about some sort of player expose--small (or large) articles of big SC players past and present: nicknames, strats, strengths, weaknesses. I think that would be hotttttt.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=33197

link from the Ultimate Progaming FAQ

shizi
Profile Joined February 2008
United States210 Posts
July 22 2008 02:23 GMT
#24
much needed ty
obloquy
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States265 Posts
July 22 2008 02:28 GMT
#25
Thank you very much. Keep up the good work!
That was an unknown unknown.
riotjune
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States3394 Posts
July 22 2008 03:22 GMT
#26
Thank you for the guides~
useLess
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States4781 Posts
July 22 2008 03:48 GMT
#27
way nice. this is the exactly the kind of stuff that shows us how far we've gone

great graphic pieces btw
Moonlight Shadow
SpiralArchitect
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2116 Posts
July 22 2008 08:52 GMT
#28
Zomg pure win right here, though I know all this stuff already it took me a long mother fucking time to figure it out the first time. I knew I could watch live SC like 6 months before I finally really put my mind to it. Plexa great job man I am sure this will help thousands of noobs now and down the road you truly are an Advocate of the Noob (complimentary of course).

Three cheers for Plexa!
TeamLiquids #1 illiterate writer, writin dem wordz is de hardz.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 22 2008 12:25 GMT
#29
don't complement me! complement these people;
Carnac, jkillashark, Orome, PoP, ToKoreaWithLove, Manifesto7, thedeadhaji, SonuvBob, GTR-2-Go, Plexa, Daigomi, Pachi as well as most of the other staff who pitched in as well

this was a group effort, it was just my honor and privilege to deliver the news
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Neo Elemental
Profile Joined June 2007
United States19 Posts
July 22 2008 14:15 GMT
#30
On July 22 2008 10:55 jingXD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2008 06:34 Neo Elemental wrote:
Hey, here's an idea I've had for a while...How about some sort of player expose--small (or large) articles of big SC players past and present: nicknames, strats, strengths, weaknesses. I think that would be hotttttt.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=33197

link from the Ultimate Progaming FAQ



I stand corrected--didn't expect it to be so deep. I think that for something as character driven as SC that sort of thing would be emphasized more. I'm more interested in write-ups like that than how the survivor round of the MSL works (although that info is welcome too--great job to everyone who wrote these up).

Plus, that list is not exactly up-to-date...Not trying to nitpick, but I think this would really be an awesome addition.

Maybe something integrated with the database on TL--like, imagine a timeline that tracks players and as they perform better (kespa rank maybe) their line gets bigger...hmm, my explanation seems very poor.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-07-22 14:31:41
July 22 2008 14:31 GMT
#31
dw there will be features like that in the future, albeit not part of the progaming faq
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
July 22 2008 15:06 GMT
#32
Quick question: Does a progamer have to stick to 1 race or can they switch around throughout a league/tournament? For example, a progamer that only plays ZvP TvZ and PvT. I'm guessing the answer is no but i just want to make sure.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 22 2008 16:22 GMT
#33
On July 23 2008 00:06 FortuneSyn wrote:
Quick question: Does a progamer have to stick to 1 race or can they switch around throughout a league/tournament? For example, a progamer that only plays ZvP TvZ and PvT. I'm guessing the answer is no but i just want to make sure.
A progamer can play any race they want. The only limitation is that they must inform whoever the host of the event at least 1 week before the match. Off-racing (ala Savior vs Gorush) or race picking is strongly discouraged in proteam houses because of the extra work you need to do on those matchups.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
July 22 2008 18:08 GMT
#34
cheers for the info, and the guide!
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
July 23 2008 08:25 GMT
#35
I'm sure this will be a very useful response, well done to everyone who put it together. I also second a brief Tl.net history, it would be a nice idea.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
July 23 2008 13:28 GMT
#36
On July 23 2008 01:22 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2008 00:06 FortuneSyn wrote:
Quick question: Does a progamer have to stick to 1 race or can they switch around throughout a league/tournament? For example, a progamer that only plays ZvP TvZ and PvT. I'm guessing the answer is no but i just want to make sure.
A progamer can play any race they want. The only limitation is that they must inform whoever the host of the event at least 1 week before the match. Off-racing (ala Savior vs Gorush) or race picking is strongly discouraged in proteam houses because of the extra work you need to do on those matchups.

How about playing Random?

Does the player just say "Hey, I will be playing random" and then when the match comes, he picks Random?
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
July 23 2008 13:47 GMT
#37
Yup random included; just tell them one week ahead of schedule and viola! you can play random
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
ZenDeX
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Philippines2916 Posts
July 23 2008 15:55 GMT
#38
On July 23 2008 22:47 Plexa wrote:
Yup random included; just tell them one week ahead of schedule and viola! you can play random

Imagine the pressure on your opponent if you were really good at all races.

Random: *yawn* Zerg..., guess I'll do 3-hatch
Protoss: $%^& wtf am I fighting against?!

Protoss player gets really paranoid and sends 3 probes to scout 3 starting positions immediately...
Durak
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Canada3685 Posts
July 23 2008 16:43 GMT
#39
On July 24 2008 00:55 lolaloc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2008 22:47 Plexa wrote:
Yup random included; just tell them one week ahead of schedule and viola! you can play random

Imagine the pressure on your opponent if you were really good at all races.

Random: *yawn* Zerg..., guess I'll do 3-hatch
Protoss: $%^& wtf am I fighting against?!

Protoss player gets really paranoid and sends 3 probes to scout 3 starting positions immediately...


That's why I always wanted to play random. The problem is that it's really hard to practice nine matchups and be good in all of them. Plus, most people won't play against you if you're random.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
July 24 2008 04:14 GMT
#40
very cool
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