On April 18 2008 04:08 3 Lions wrote:
now that jaedong is gone...
MA JAE YOON FIGHTING!!
now that jaedong is gone...
MA JAE YOON FIGHTING!!
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NathanSC
United States620 Posts
On April 18 2008 04:08 3 Lions wrote: now that jaedong is gone... MA JAE YOON FIGHTING!! | ||
KwarK
United States40728 Posts
In short Mani, you have missed what BackHo is about. Yes, he is awful. However I am not surprised that, when he does a build which is actually intended for PvZ and useful for the situation, he can destroy Jaedong. He is a very skilled player (albeit dependent on luck for which build he decides to use) and you underestimate him at the risk of your liquibet points. | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka26924 Posts
I obviously watched BackHo VODs, and I came to the conclusion that he is not a special player. Last night did nothing to change my mind. | ||
KwarK
United States40728 Posts
I must contest your conclusion that he is nothing special. He is unique in the same way that Boxer is. Boxer does innovative strategies that shouldn't work and somehow makes everything click. BackHo does bad strategies that simply do not work, combines them with insane multitasking, pushes his opponent to the brink and then implodes in a pile of 'epic fail'. While this hasn't proven effective he is definitely something special. Last night he played two games in which he didn't attempt a ridiculous strategy, the first was a perfectly executed rush against Jaedong. Sure, it was a rush build but there was absolutely nothing improvable about the way he used it. And that puts his record when using real build orders at a comfortable 1-0 which given it was against Jaedong isn't bad. The game against Casy wasn't long enough for him to hang himself with a display of awful strategy. Casy pushed him into a micro war and was just utterly outclassed. Admittedly he did scout Casy's bunker rush but even so, 3 zealots, a dragoon and some probes just wiped out those scvs and marines with no effort. I really believe that in a game where BackHo uses a real strategy there are very few players who could beat him. | ||
War_Minister
Canada86 Posts
I feel like watching his games again. I also felt something was wrong about his play despite his wins but I didn't fully grasp it. Maybe your explanation is right. | ||
MaZza[KIS]
Australia2107 Posts
meanwhile, JD and Casy can either grow from this experience, or perish.... Having Nada in his team should help Casy. | ||
Durak
Canada3684 Posts
On April 18 2008 09:41 MaZza[KIS] wrote: This sucks... unfortunatelly, that's starcraft! BackHo will probably fade away and never ever make it into another starleague again... meanwhile, JD and Casy can either grow from this experience, or perish.... Having Nada in his team should help Casy. I sure hope JD does. That must have been really frustrating for him. He probably should have scouted earlier vs. BackHo but everyone gets cheesed sometimes. Trick is not to get too upset over it. | ||
teamsolid
Canada3668 Posts
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
Legend Killer just got his name reversed on him oh well all the more chance for savior to take it... | ||
InfeSteD
United States4658 Posts
I see alot of comments about bakcho.. i dont think i payed that much attention to his games so I will go re watch again.. | ||
Umbrella
Taiwan936 Posts
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pindleskin
New Zealand199 Posts
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1133 Posts
On April 18 2008 07:42 Kwark wrote: I said he's awful because he does stupid strategies which nobody, no matter how good, could pull off. However it's a testament to how good he is that for a while when he does them you think that maybe he might actually win with it. I can't defend his game sense, he has none. I must contest your conclusion that he is nothing special. He is unique in the same way that Boxer is. Boxer does innovative strategies that shouldn't work and somehow makes everything click. BackHo does bad strategies that simply do not work, combines them with insane multitasking, pushes his opponent to the brink and then implodes in a pile of 'epic fail'. While this hasn't proven effective he is definitely something special. Last night he played two games in which he didn't attempt a ridiculous strategy, the first was a perfectly executed rush against Jaedong. Sure, it was a rush build but there was absolutely nothing improvable about the way he used it. And that puts his record when using real build orders at a comfortable 1-0 which given it was against Jaedong isn't bad. The game against Casy wasn't long enough for him to hang himself with a display of awful strategy. Casy pushed him into a micro war and was just utterly outclassed. Admittedly he did scout Casy's bunker rush but even so, 3 zealots, a dragoon and some probes just wiped out those scvs and marines with no effort. I really believe that in a game where BackHo uses a real strategy there are very few players who could beat him. Near same builds vs the same player: Bisu Backho Backho has decent mechanics..but lets not forget he lost to CUTEANGEL on KATRINA on A HUGE advantage. Seriously..and lets not forget this genius move: Backho is a Nal_rock reincarnate. This is a cruel joke from the bw gods, once Nal_rock is ousted another one steps in to eliminate our favorites and do jack shit at the ro32. | ||
Manifesto7
Osaka26924 Posts
On April 18 2008 11:53 Umbrella wrote: Who is Um Jae-kyung? =$ Check out an interview we did with him here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=23780 | ||
amorpheus
Bulgaria2144 Posts
On April 17 2008 22:48 Equinox_kr wrote: Sad but very very possible no way, just no way ... On April 18 2008 12:10 ._. wrote:Seriously..and lets not forget this genius move: http://youtube.com/watch?v=slwrJ54cDFM Such things can happen to anyone actually. | ||
bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
Casy is a messy haired terran and GGPlay is a neat trimmed zerg. This OSL was doomed to be unexpected. ROCK LEE FTW! | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32236 Posts
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17708 Posts
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MrOwMrOw
New Zealand48 Posts
pffffft he thinks he gansterrrrrr??? | ||
SuperJongMan
Jamaica11586 Posts
Sigh... | ||
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