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ZhenMiChan
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Netherlands1181 Posts
April 04 2008 08:52 GMT
#121
WoW he got banned lol
Studying Chinese~
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-04 09:08:08
April 04 2008 09:06 GMT
#122
I definitely can see all of your points..
And Trek dont get me wrong or take this personaly. Im not naming yours and testie's name to insult you or anything or to give you bad names. You can put in Selector ( i know he is a totally different case than you and testie ) or other hackers as well.

What im trying to say is that in my opinion we need ''clear/obvious'' rules. There cant be exceptions. You shouldnt ban someone because '' you feel he has hacked a bit more than somene else, was a bad more tad mannered and is in general an asshole ''

The only viable and fair option i see is to ban hackers by looking at the fact how often they were caught and when they did do it. Which is exactly what you do. So well im running in circles and basicaly you are probably right.

BUT

it's still a more complicated matter than some might think in the first place. Not saying you are doing the wrong this, not at all. But i at least imagine if i would be any of the banned hackers i would barely stand it if any other person who did one cheat or hack stayed in the ladder.

But i come to the conclusion u probably did the right thing.. still it feels a bit.. uh.. dunno

@Trek, Testie : Really no intention to offend you. Hope u didn get it wrong.

<3
hatred outlives the hateful
ionize
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Ireland399 Posts
April 04 2008 09:12 GMT
#123
Wow, what a competition. Go and get 'm guys!
I just love video games, what's your excuse?
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
April 04 2008 09:14 GMT
#124
What im trying to say is that in my opinion we need ''clear/obvious'' rules. There cant be exceptions. You shouldnt ban someone because '' you feel he has hacked a bit more than somene else, was a bad more tad mannered and is in general an asshole '
what exceptions are you talking about? they said their rule is anyone caught in the last year gets banned. the only person i see who was caught in the last year who isnt banned is haypro who was caught under very suspect circumstances. in his case he had a fairly believable excuse and theres very little reason to believe that he really is a hacker in the sense that mistrzzz, tt1, oldy, etc are.
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ProTech_MediC
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States498 Posts
April 04 2008 09:15 GMT
#125
With all of the work you guys have put into this tournament, I don't doubt that you scrutinized every angle of the MistrZZZ incident. I think you made the right decision on that one.

But...

Now you need to ban the rest of the "recent" hackers. The majority of the players are determined and legitimate . Don't forget that this tournament is for them.

@Trek: LoL, you show up in hacking threads because you hacked. Go figure. I don't feel bad for you.

MC Fighting!~
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
April 04 2008 09:37 GMT
#126
Talking of TT1..



well we will see..
hatred outlives the hateful
RaiZ
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
2813 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-04 09:55:02
April 04 2008 09:52 GMT
#127
To be out of the subject : When will this tournament thing start ? I see the time but he didn't mention which time zone it'd be. Nor do i see a clock in their site. It'd be pretty annoying for some of the ppl which i know they're so lazy to find the time in the site.

Edit : Fuk i'm even lazier than them. Sorry.
Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth. Oscar Wilde
Elric
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1327 Posts
April 04 2008 09:53 GMT
#128
Great news post with lots of juicy info. Very happy to see Mistrzz banned, his pathetic attitude to others was reason enough for the ban.

More <3 to Day[9] please?!? He's giving away $100 of his own bloody money.
TreK
Profile Joined August 2004
Sweden2089 Posts
April 04 2008 10:16 GMT
#129
On April 04 2008 18:15 Phoned wrote:
With all of the work you guys have put into this tournament, I don't doubt that you scrutinized every angle of the MistrZZZ incident. I think you made the right decision on that one.

But...

Now you need to ban the rest of the "recent" hackers. The majority of the players are determined and legitimate . Don't forget that this tournament is for them.

@Trek: LoL, you show up in hacking threads because you hacked. Go figure. I don't feel bad for you.


I HACKED? i clearly didnt!
Bergkamp ftw!
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3423 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-04 10:16:46
April 04 2008 10:16 GMT
#130
The fact that ICCup's head admin doesn't agree with your decision means a lot, I think.

Trek ;- )
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 04 2008 10:24 GMT
#131
On April 04 2008 19:16 True_Spike wrote:
The fact that ICCup's head admin doesn't agree with your decision means a lot, I think.

Trek ;- )
Scythe is out of the loop, at the moment he is a purely superficial leader analogous to the Queen in England. We are in the process of bringing him up to date. People who are in the loop are all staff at teamliquid and Snet/iCCup.Sn3t and possibly Raelcun
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
HaiVan
Profile Joined April 2005
Bulgaria1698 Posts
April 04 2008 10:29 GMT
#132
TL


All known hackers who are not banned yet will be closely watched no doubt.


Listen to The Special One
True_Spike
Profile Joined July 2004
Poland3423 Posts
April 04 2008 10:30 GMT
#133
On April 04 2008 19:24 Plexa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2008 19:16 True_Spike wrote:
The fact that ICCup's head admin doesn't agree with your decision means a lot, I think.

Trek ;- )
Scythe is out of the loop, at the moment he is a purely superficial leader analogous to the Queen in England. We are in the process of bringing him up to date. People who are in the loop are all staff at teamliquid and Snet/iCCup.Sn3t and possibly Raelcun


Oh, okay. That explains a lot.
iaretehnoob
Profile Joined June 2004
Sweden741 Posts
April 04 2008 10:31 GMT
#134
Thank You TL.net ! <3
Konni
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Germany3044 Posts
April 04 2008 10:48 GMT
#135
Yeah this thread needs more appreciation!! GoGo TL.net !!

Because of you I played some competitive games again after a looooong time and I love it
Coulthard
Profile Joined September 2005
Greece3359 Posts
April 04 2008 10:52 GMT
#136
How can you accuse a player for drophacking in a 4 min game when he even got the advantage?why would he disc?? :S
Krzycho
Profile Joined July 2007
Poland442 Posts
April 04 2008 11:03 GMT
#137
yea, that's really really strange, maybe because admins suck ??
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
April 04 2008 11:16 GMT
#138
maaaaybe
V6
Profile Joined February 2008
147 Posts
April 04 2008 11:36 GMT
#139
Ye this is god damn awsome. This is a mile-mark right here.. just tooo fucking awsome : ))
GL & HF everyone!
<3 TL.net

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TaHNe
Profile Joined April 2008
Poland3 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-04 11:38:31
April 04 2008 11:37 GMT
#140
Poles, stop asking because all answer will be like "shup up you stupid fanboy". IT IS TRUE , mistrzzz played 80games,and in one of them after 5minutes of game (with g5) he decided to use a drop hack : D
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