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Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-31 15:58:57
August 31 2003 13:34 GMT
#1
The culmination of yet another successful event by the TL.net staff and WGT has finally been completed. The final tournament had the best players outside of Korea (give or take a few) competing for the big lump sum of money. Though the tournament ended much differently than few could have possibly imagined.

Upset city. When Elky gets smacked around by a Canadian and anon you know something’s is very VERY wrong. Whether Elky just wasn't on his A game or was on drugs is a mystery only I know the answer to. Giyom got billabonked by everyone's favorite Aussie, Leg and the new school yet highly talented sYs(Dune) (Doombringer). Also, when you've got a handful of annoying Russians in a tournament, odds are one of them will get lucky and somehow manage to do well. Whelp this time it was Sleeping.RUS's lucky day. After getting hammered to sleep round one by Willet, he went on a blazing 4-0 (got a free win vs the absent Pride) streak in the losers bracket by beating Veg, Daaman, Androide(yeah he played for Oddy and was caught too late) and yours truly (Lag, Pausing, Hack, BM, Cheat, Disc, Glitch abuse, etc). Though how that happened, I don't know because he was definitely below the skill level of every single person he managed to beat.

After all the whining about the maps Nazgul and others chose from uneducated/ignorant gamers such as LoB.anon.hcn, how the maps are so heavily favoring P and they are "Nazgul's Favorites," Naz (the TL#3 Champion) lost to Doombringer and Lammerman early on and didn't manage to get top 8.

The winners bracket was dominated by everyone's “favorite” player, Smuft. NO IT WASN'T FENNEC-THE-FOX IN THE LADDER SEASON PLAYING ZERG, IT WAS SMUFT, OKAY RETARDS? I'm sure after getting scammed to shit by Smuft in WDT everyone loves seeing him winning a lot of money from something they all paid for. A bit ironic that he can take everyone’s money legitimately and illegitimately. He crushed Mondragon in the winners bracket finals even after

being at a 1 game disadvantage in a best-of-5 for his not so uncommon inability to show up on time (WDT final tourney, anyone?). Lego beat Willet in the loser’s bracket guaranteeing him 3rd place at least and placing Willet at in the honorable 4th place slot. Lego played Mondragon in the losers bracket finals like a complete idiot and gets stuck with 3rd place.

Smuft vs. Mondragon in the finals:
1-0 Auto lead for Smuft
2-0 Smuft wins on Vertigo
3-0 Smuft wins on Plains to Hill
3-1 Mondragon wins on Nostalgia
3-2 Mondragon wins on Charity
3-3 Mondragon wins on Neo Vertigo
4-3 Smuft wins on Neo Vertigo

From what I heard Mondragon played like crap in the winners bracket series vs. Smuft and also played like crap vs. Smuft in most of their games in the finals. Maybe Smuft just knew how to handle the pressure better? Or maybe Smuft is just far better than Mondy? You decide.

1st: Smuft - $750
2nd: ToT)Mondragon( -$400
3rd: Legionnaire - $250
4th: ToT)WiLLEt( - $150
5th/6th: Sleeping.RUS vs Doombringer (Winner gets 100$ Loser gets 50$)
7th: Rekrul[pG] - 50$
8th: ToT)aCe( - 50$

Ret and I didn’t play but I’m much better than him in Ping Pong so I get 7th.

Lessons learned for the next TLT:
1. Modify BWSentinel to automatically scan all IP's and tell where the people playing are from so admins don't have to scan through tons of IP's manually.
2. Don't let Russians play in the final tournament. They lag and are annoying and you can't tell who's who because they all play from PC Cafe's. The only thing they are good for is easy points in the ladder season.
3. Don't hold it at 3 PM Euro time because I don't like waking up at 8 AM.
4. Have a shorter Ladder season to promote activity.
5. Make the losers bracket best-of-3 for all rounds except for maybe the first round. It sucks losing to Russians and not being able to use your anger from your one loss to win the next two with ease, eh Naz? T_T

Congrats to Smuft for his amazing ability to fool people during the ladder season just by playing Zerg at a level no one thought he could and by owning the piss out of everyone in the tourney with Protoss.

LDone: WDT and TLT
LDone: All your money are belong to us.

p.s. special thanks to all the admins and JCA for bwsentinel

why so 진지해?
mensrea
Profile Joined September 2002
Canada5062 Posts
August 31 2003 13:41 GMT
#2
"Ret and I didn’t play but I’m much better than him in Ping Pong so I get 7th."


hahaha

GJ, Rek. Sexy summary.
actus non facit reum, nisi mens sit rea.
ShAsTa
Profile Joined November 2002
Belgium2841 Posts
August 31 2003 13:44 GMT
#3
haha, great tournament.
I bet ace could own ur ass in ping-pong rek.
If we hit that bull's eye, the rest of the dominoes will fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.
[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
August 31 2003 13:45 GMT
#4
LOL so will bw sentinel be released now?
I may not be the best player right now but I think I can beat any 'best' players. I'll beat all the best players and become the best player. Watch me. - Jju
Roman
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2595 Posts
August 31 2003 13:46 GMT
#5
hahaha russians own
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
August 31 2003 13:46 GMT
#6
On August 31 2003 22:44 ShAsTa wrote:
haha, great tournament.
I bet ace could own ur ass in ping-pong rek.


We will see at WCG. 20$ on the line. Rekrul loves free money.
why so 진지해?
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
August 31 2003 13:52 GMT
#7
So after all Smuft vs Mondragon 6:4 .
Uh they played 10 games !
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-08-31 14:23:38
August 31 2003 13:53 GMT
#8
That is almost more than Smuft had to play against all the other players.
Strafe[iR]
Profile Joined March 2003
Netherlands266 Posts
August 31 2003 14:08 GMT
#9
mondragon should have won;(
top 8 3 ToTs out of 3
^_^
Help me with my army. http://www.kingsofchaos.com/recruit.php?uniqid=wv63w278 . Thk you
Grotfang
Profile Joined May 2003
Belgium490 Posts
August 31 2003 14:17 GMT
#10
mondragon is truly amazing

i respect smuft's ability to steal my money
No plz only LT.. no not TvT.. no.. ok cancel?
Elsi
Profile Joined October 2002
United Kingdom8173 Posts
August 31 2003 14:23 GMT
#11
Jesus, Smuft is a wealthy man, nice report Rekrul, impressive
MyztiC`Terran
Profile Joined August 2003
United States374 Posts
August 31 2003 14:26 GMT
#12
SMUFT PENIS! Had everyone fooled
MaxPepper
Profile Joined January 2003
Sri Lanka298 Posts
August 31 2003 14:30 GMT
#13
are there replays of all this .?
Freedom is not something you live for, its something you die for.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28715 Posts
August 31 2003 15:05 GMT
#14
haha
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Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
August 31 2003 15:24 GMT
#15
rofl rek :D
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AsHRaK
Profile Joined November 2002
Poland250 Posts
August 31 2003 15:37 GMT
#16
hehehe nice summary, good job
come play my game.
HnR)hT
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3468 Posts
August 31 2003 15:43 GMT
#17
pride didnt play btw
Bizkit
Profile Joined October 2002
Sweden1137 Posts
August 31 2003 15:47 GMT
#18
:/
http://www.gosugamers.net
Destroyer
Profile Joined October 2002
Czech Republic937 Posts
August 31 2003 16:02 GMT
#19
sYs(DUNE) is real oldschool, your fool u dont know him
never too old for starcraft :)
Tien
Profile Joined January 2003
Russian Federation4447 Posts
August 31 2003 16:14 GMT
#20
what was sleeping.rus doing to deserve all this bashing?
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