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GomTV3 MSL - Sept 22 - Group E

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Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-21 16:33:03
September 21 2007 16:20 GMT
#1
The season has official kicked off, with OSL finally gearing up, Proleague getting busy and MSL entering it's 4th group match.

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Group E: Sept 22nd – 18:30 Korean
Game 1 – (Z)sAviOr vs (T)RuBy @ Python
Game 2 – (P)SangHo vs (T)fOrGG @ Zodiac
Winners @ Blue Storm
Losers @ Blue Storm
Final @ Loki II


The only name in here that REALLY matters is obviously the Maestro. The rest are fairly new faces, with the exception of (T)fOrGG who's played in an OSL previously. The main focus is if the Maestro still has IT. It will be a lie to say that many fans have been worrying with his recent performance. 1-2 vs (T)Iris at Daum OSL, 2-3 vs FBH at GomTV2 MSL, 1-2 vs (T)Hwasin at WCG, and 0-2 to start the Proleague.

Fortunately, his group no group of death (although it nearly was). Neither (T)fOrGG nor (T)RuBy have shown any special strength in TvZ. And as for (P)SangHo, as long he's not (P)Bisu it really doesn't matter.



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sAviOr (Z) vs. Ruby (T)
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@ Python


Despite his recent performance, it is far too early to really worry about (Z)sAviOr yet. A below-par (Z)sAviOr is still an above average progamer. And it will take much more than a few losses to top-tier players to really shake the Maestro. And as the map is Python, I believe it's safe to
put my money on (Z)sAviOr.



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SangHo (P) vs. fOrGG (T)
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@ Loki II


There is not too much known about (P)SangHo. His only impressive performance would probably defeating (T)Iris in the MSL qualifiers. Otherwise, the only one's he's beaten are (Z)oDin and (T)go.go... not exactly an achievement one would boast about. (T)fOrGG, however, has a little more to fall back on. Having already some major league experience in OSL, and known for a killer TvP (3-0 against (P)Bisu), many would probably put their finger on this one.

There is one thing to consider though. The map is Loki II, which is being known to be favored for Protoss because of it's carrier-friendly terrains.



Remaining Games

I'm sure many are betting on (Z)sAviOr coming out of this group without too much problems. The real question is who out of (P)SangHo, (T)fOrGG and (T)RuBy will make it. I personally will be rooting for SanHo, because we already have 4 terrans out of 6 players already qualified. And there's still plenty of more terrans to advance. The more terrans eliminated early on, the better.
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
September 21 2007 16:23 GMT
#2
error in the title. Sept 22nd, not Sept 15th. If mod could fix, that would be great.
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
September 21 2007 17:28 GMT
#3
I'm going to be pretty shocked if Savior doesn't make it through this group. I suppose I could see him losing to fOrGG, but he'd really have to snuff it up to not make it through the other two...
Q(-_-Q)
Profile Joined August 2007
United States348 Posts
September 21 2007 18:09 GMT
#4
Savior, fOrGG
SC2 = Alpha = End Balance Speculations?
ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
September 21 2007 18:52 GMT
#5
predicting an upset for sangho
Don't believe the florist when he tells you that the roses are free
PhilGood2DaY
Profile Joined September 2005
Germany7424 Posts
September 21 2007 19:53 GMT
#6
forgg looked fucking strong sometimes.. ^^
hatred outlives the hateful
Muell
Profile Joined May 2006
Germany89 Posts
September 21 2007 21:58 GMT
#7
easy group for savior
i "predict": #1 savior
rest: doesnt matter
best sc:bw player alive: IPXZerg aka sAviOr
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
September 21 2007 22:22 GMT
#8
On September 22 2007 01:20 Live2Win wrote:
The more terrans eliminated early on, the better.


Amen.
<3's Mani and Seraphim, thx for the second chance. TSL Name: TSL-mSLeGenD
vstar
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Korea (South)693 Posts
September 21 2007 22:26 GMT
#9
LMAO yes
Deleted User 30223
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3104 Posts
September 21 2007 23:54 GMT
#10
On September 22 2007 01:20 Live2Win wrote:
The more terrans eliminated early on, the better.


hell yes. amen to that.
MarineHero
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada38 Posts
September 22 2007 00:01 GMT
#11
Go Savior but i dont know for which one to vote so i will vote for ermm ermm SangHo because he is Protoss xD
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32281 Posts
September 22 2007 01:51 GMT
#12
Ha!, nice write up L2W
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darktreb
Profile Joined May 2007
United States3019 Posts
September 22 2007 01:54 GMT
#13
And as the map is Python, I believe it's safe to
put my money on (Z)sAviOr.


Err, hasn't Python basically been a kiss of death (for reasons that are still unclear to most people) for Savior? Not that I don't think he's going to win, just thought it was interesting the way that was phrased.
NovaTheFeared
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States7232 Posts
September 22 2007 02:31 GMT
#14
TLPD has Savior 1-6 total on python vs. T, on a 5 game losing streak?
日本語が分かりますか
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
September 22 2007 02:33 GMT
#15
I would not be surprised if fOrGG manages to pull a win again savior (his tvz is so-so but his macro is absolutely amazing) and Saviro takes the other spot. I'd like to see Sangho/Savior go through however, way too many terrans.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37115 Posts
September 22 2007 05:11 GMT
#16
Nah, as a T user I still vote that T must win no matter what. Can't go against sAviOr though, go maestro!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Cranefly
Profile Joined February 2007
Germany184 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-22 09:29:40
September 22 2007 09:28 GMT
#17
I personally will be rooting for SanHo, because we already have 4 terrans out of 6 players already qualified. And there's still plenty of more terrans to advance. The more terrans eliminated early on, the better.
that's true!
My sporting heroes are Lim Yo Hwan, Neil Robertson, Peter Gade and Henning Fritz
HaXxorIzed
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Australia8434 Posts
September 23 2007 00:52 GMT
#18
Well, Forgg and Savior got through. My predictions were right, another terran and the maestro.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/HaXxorIzed
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
September 23 2007 05:54 GMT
#19
those were my predictions as well but i thought ForGg was gonna beat Sangho in the first match
w/e
paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13197 Posts
September 23 2007 08:49 GMT
#20
i like the facebook style banner lawls ;D
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