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fjjotizz
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden153 Posts
July 19 2013 09:24 GMT
#21
Only SortOf coming to defend the reign of successful Swedes. I hope he performs well - GL HF SortOf. Fighting!
"I'm a creepy guy. Tasteless, if it would make my units move faster, I would peek in everyones window in Seoul."
Rhaeide
Profile Joined November 2008
Spain304 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 09:58:58
July 19 2013 09:45 GMT
#22
I don't think LucifroN needs to suddently prove his status by winning DH Valencia as an "ultimatum". Speaking only of HoTS, since he has started being a full progamer, It's true he has had bad luck in major tournaments (the sample is quite small btw only 3 tournaments -.-"), but he has been constantly getting good results, almost always leading the European Ladder, achieving multiple wins and even almost all-kills in team leagues (he's currently 4th in ATC statistics), going far in most of the tournaments he has participated (1st IPL DICE, 1st Vasacast, 1st EIZO, 2nd Ritmix 4), and normally beating top koreans here and there (for example HerO, Taeja, HyuN, MVP) or at least taking games of them (50% record vs koreans in HoTS, not bad at all). He also beated recently DH Summer winner's Stardust in the tournament.

He only needs time, and I'm sure he will succeed the expectations, and he'll win a big tournament this year. And even if he doesn't achieve that, he will still get high placings in individual leagues while giving mouz many valuable wins, and of course, he'll be increasing his level until the oportunity comes.
♪ www.youtube.com/Rhaeide ♫ LucifroN/VortiX/herO/Scarlett/Flash/EffOrt/BoxeR/Kingdom/Nal_rA
DavoS
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States4605 Posts
July 19 2013 12:18 GMT
#23
On July 19 2013 09:50 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 19 2013 09:35 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
However, (T)mouz.LucifroN is still very much affected by all this proving yourself business. There may not have ever been a player in StarCraft II history, not even one from Korea, who has been as hyped as Lucifron without having won a single major* tournament.

Flash
*hides*

Yet it seems hiding was unnecessary. A pleasant surprise.
These write ups are cool, and I completely agree with the Stephano summary
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Paljas
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany6926 Posts
July 19 2013 12:24 GMT
#24
great writeup.
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nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3753 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-19 15:39:54
July 19 2013 13:38 GMT
#25
On July 19 2013 11:43 stuchiu wrote:
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On July 19 2013 11:33 Shellshock1122 wrote:
*Feel free to try and argue how The Gathering and IPL Dice were major tournaments.

The Gathering is listed as a major tournament on liquipedia. Checkmate


Beat Liquipedia in TLMC so our word is better than theirs. Checkmate checkmate.

Yea, but it wasn't in major tournament. Checkmate checkmate checkmate.
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
July 19 2013 13:50 GMT
#26
I love the little tangent for the players that are irrationally liked. I chuckled so much, good writing and humor!
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
July 19 2013 17:46 GMT
#27
+ Show Spoiler +

(Z)d.Tefel: NaNiwa calling him 'the worst player in the world' has convinced us that Tefel is good.


this made my day
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
July 19 2013 20:44 GMT
#28
On July 19 2013 14:36 Cattlecruiser wrote:
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On July 19 2013 09:35 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
Casters are constantly telling us how he's the best Terran in Europe, if not the best player, period.

Best Terran in Europe? possibly. Best player period? Not even remotely close.
I get the hyperbole but it is borderline blasphemy.

On topic, Valencia looks great. Looking forward to some great Dreamhack content.
Not very many in shape Koreans attending, maybe some one will break out like Stardust.


Agreed. Foreigners, including Europe, have been very lackluster playing terran ever since SC2 began. I'd be very skeptical of Europe's best terran being considered its best player.
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
July 19 2013 22:50 GMT
#29
On July 19 2013 17:34 HystericaLaughter wrote:
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On July 19 2013 14:17 Dodgin wrote:
Lucifron needs to ask MC where he can get some of those rigged dice, he's got pretty shit luck.


More like a rigged coin!


Don't you dare trying to alter history. It was pieces of paper!
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
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