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emanresU
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany393 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-29 22:29:57
May 29 2013 22:29 GMT
#41
1.First
2.MarineKing
3.True
4.Hurricane
5.Bang

True is a little underrated imo. Also LG-IM has the sickest Protoss line-up.
There is nothing more cool than being proud of the things you love. -Sean "Day[9]" Plott
dustinth
Profile Joined September 2012
China205 Posts
May 29 2013 23:53 GMT
#42
What? TRUE at the first place? This is a curse or something?
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
May 29 2013 23:53 GMT
#43
Really, True is #1? The guy with a 35% win rate who doesn't even get sent out in Proleague anymore?
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 30 2013 00:28 GMT
#44
On May 30 2013 08:53 GolemMadness wrote:
Really, True is #1? The guy with a 35% win rate who doesn't even get sent out in Proleague anymore?

They probably have no idea and have decided to go with the common all-Kespa heuristic (TM). Seems to work well enough these days. That's how I usually liquibet. :D
Mistakes
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1102 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 00:40:28
May 30 2013 00:39 GMT
#45
On May 30 2013 04:31 Targe wrote:
#MKP2013

Believe.


I bet on my fanboyism for each group. So #MKP2013 !
(Look, my fanboyism got Soulkey to the finals!)

Edit: MKP and First advance.
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CrazyHunter
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
United States83 Posts
May 30 2013 01:09 GMT
#46
#MKP2013

GO GO MKP!
2nd place can go to First or True; I don't care.
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eXeMarc
Profile Joined June 2012
Netherlands50 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 01:30:25
May 30 2013 01:30 GMT
#47
#MKP2013
Don't let that Nestea award slip away MKP :D
We do what we must because we can!
Emzeeshady
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Canada4203 Posts
May 30 2013 02:05 GMT
#48
--- Nuked ---
LastDance
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
New Zealand510 Posts
May 30 2013 03:31 GMT
#49
Gogo MKP!!!
Benzzro
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia167 Posts
May 30 2013 03:59 GMT
#50
Hurricane is the best player in the group if he doesn't choke, don't know how MKP is favored over him when Hurricane has already all-killed prime easily, PvT is his best matchup IMO. First is also beastly, I think them 2 are getting out unless Hurricane choked like he did last match
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 30 2013 04:26 GMT
#51
On May 30 2013 12:59 Benzzro wrote:
Hurricane is the best player in the group if he doesn't choke, don't know how MKP is favored over him when Hurricane has already all-killed prime easily, PvT is his best matchup IMO. First is also beastly, I think them 2 are getting out unless Hurricane choked like he did last match

hurricane has never all killed prime lol
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Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
May 30 2013 04:42 GMT
#52
Poor Golden.

MKP has been so down lately, I think it's about time I started cheering for him again.
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Lorning *
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgica34432 Posts
May 30 2013 05:59 GMT
#53
Gogo MKP

#MKP2013
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Benzzro
Profile Joined August 2011
Australia167 Posts
May 30 2013 06:16 GMT
#54
On May 30 2013 13:26 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 12:59 Benzzro wrote:
Hurricane is the best player in the group if he doesn't choke, don't know how MKP is favored over him when Hurricane has already all-killed prime easily, PvT is his best matchup IMO. First is also beastly, I think them 2 are getting out unless Hurricane choked like he did last match

hurricane has never all killed prime lol


Uhh crap must of been thinking of First, switch Hurricane with First in my post . I still think Hurricane is getting out though.
Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-30 07:42:01
May 30 2013 07:34 GMT
#55
This is an interesting group where the gap between first and last doesn't appear to be too wide. But I'm not sure how much I agree with the preview. TL thinks a guy (MVP.Bang) who's never played a game in the GOMtv booth is going to go straight up to code S, nearly two years from his first attempt? I'm sorry I don't see that happening.

True and MKP are the only two players in this group who've played in code S. In theory, they should be your two favourites to advance. But T8's True is far removed from the elite. He got knocked out in the first round this GSL and is a bit player in Proleague. That said, although his zvz is pretty bad, his zvp is alright and his zvt is pretty good. With no zergs to face, he looks like he could be set to renew his code S membership another season.

In MKP's case, he's one win away from the Nestea award. With his consistency, this code S seat is reserved for MKP's bum until proven otherwise. However, MKP it has to be said, has looked like shit lately. Luckily, this WCS-Korea (Starleague) doesn't count for or against the Nestea award. Like the previewers, I don't think he's going to make it over the line this time. Only one thing's for certain in this group: MKP will open with a low-ground cc-first and/or fast triple-orbital and True will chump him with a baneling or roach all-in.

If not MKP, which of the remaining 3 will achieve their first breakthrough into code S? Will it be Bang, the guy who's just broken into GSL for the first time ever? Will it be Hurricane, aka Tear, the guy who's spent most of his career on the margins of code A and code B? Or will it be First, the guy who won IEM Katowice, came 2nd at IEM Worlds, who's shown a formidable PvT if nothing else, including his all-kill of MKP's team just a couple weeks ago?

Yeah, I'm gonna go with True and First, but it won't be much of a surprise to see MKP pull himself together long enough to reclaim that code S seat reserved for him.
CursivE
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia317 Posts
May 30 2013 08:26 GMT
#56
Let's go MKP. You got this.
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d_runk
Profile Joined March 2013
124 Posts
May 30 2013 09:11 GMT
#57
On May 30 2013 06:55 Hakkesshu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2013 06:27 opterown wrote:
On May 30 2013 06:23 sitromit wrote:
Interesting that MKP chose to start laddering on his own ID before the up-and-down matches. Even more interesting is that according to his ladder history, most of his losses are in TvP and TvZ is his best matchup.

wow it's been so long since i checked ladder he's literally the highest ranked terran there atm wat


Do people generally don't take into consideration that MKP is the TOP terran (#8) on ladder atm? Especially since Up/Down is Bo1.


Yeah, I think if he manages to be so strong on ladder that should imply he'll be fine with BO1s.

But as Artosis said in a cast some time ago, his micro early game is often so good that he reaches a position in the midgame where he isn't supposed to be which in turn leads him to become overconfident and derp around the map with a handful of bio and then get wiped out. I'm not saying this happens every game but this is what has defined most of his tournament play as of late.
"You just offended like 90% of the world -I'm fine with that. 90% of people are pretty stupid" Jinro
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
May 30 2013 10:00 GMT
#58
This is shaping up to be the worst prediction ever. But really I have to thank you guys. People read those threads and make stupid bets because of them and I can get more money
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
Mefano
Profile Joined December 2011
Sweden190 Posts
May 30 2013 12:06 GMT
#59
LOL this prediction was cursed haha so glad I followed Aligulac on this one ^^
Yo
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9223 Posts
May 30 2013 12:15 GMT
#60
One of the worst TL prediction ever. Aligular all the way!
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
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