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[WCS KR] Innovation vs. Symbol Semi-final Recap - Page 3

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Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
May 24 2013 04:34 GMT
#41
On May 24 2013 08:47 HaRuHi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 08:07 Wingblade wrote:
More Innovation auto-winning versus Zerg for the Finals. Hooray...

Honestly though, won't be watching this. Innovation will crush some more face I'm sure though.


Honestly, do what ever you like.
But I think most people bet on the wrong horse.
Innovation rides momentum and got incredibly lucky in some of his recent games, especially vs Flash.

Soulkey however, might be the closest to a perfect player since savior.

+ Show Spoiler +
AAAAAND REALLY? WOuld you have rather watched another ZvZ Final?


Please be joking. Please.
Pillowpants117
Profile Joined April 2011
33 Posts
May 24 2013 04:41 GMT
#42
On May 24 2013 06:49 Shady Sands wrote:
Innovation's new nickname:

The Atheist

who's with me?


Vouch this may the Atheist Terran go undefeated from here on and forever.
Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 05:09:53
May 24 2013 05:07 GMT
#43
On May 24 2013 08:47 HaRuHi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 24 2013 08:07 Wingblade wrote:
More Innovation auto-winning versus Zerg for the Finals. Hooray...

Honestly though, won't be watching this. Innovation will crush some more face I'm sure though.


Honestly, do what ever you like.
But I think most people bet on the wrong horse.
Innovation rides momentum and got incredibly lucky in some of his recent games, especially vs Flash.

Soulkey however, might be the closest to a perfect player since savior.

+ Show Spoiler +
AAAAAND REALLY? WOuld you have rather watched another ZvZ Final?


I wanted sOs to win. Hasn't been a Protoss in a final since that PvP final. I wouldn't have watched either to be honest.

Also you forget, Flash is a Terran. Innovation has looked almost human against Terran. But Innovation was pretty much rolled every Zerg he's played this season and now he has experienced basically every good Zerg all-in. Soulkey MIGHT win a game. MIGHT.
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
Marshall_D
Profile Joined November 2008
United States196 Posts
May 24 2013 05:24 GMT
#44
I think the series will be close. I think Soulkey might be one of the only zergs than can stop innovation's 3 base pushes, with his good micro. BUT I think Innovation will break him down eventually in the series. Bogus is stone cold.

Bogus is Iceman.
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
May 24 2013 05:53 GMT
#45
I think Innovation, Soulkey and Flash are the only three players for me that still warrant an almost magical belief in their abilities. sOs had disappointing play in high-profile matches, Parting never quite convinces me he is on the same level as the best of the best, Life and Roro have both faltered lately.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
iloveav
Profile Joined November 2008
Poland1478 Posts
May 24 2013 06:15 GMT
#46
but unfortunately for them STX_INnoVation is an atheist.
Well played sir :D.
aka LRM)Cats_Paw.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
May 24 2013 06:29 GMT
#47
So, two Kespa players in the finals. Elephants have finally arrived?
samurai80
Profile Joined November 2011
Japan4225 Posts
May 24 2013 06:54 GMT
#48
Soulkey is at least as good as Bogus. This should be awesome finals !
xsnac
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Barbados1365 Posts
May 24 2013 07:05 GMT
#49
On May 24 2013 15:29 -Archangel- wrote:
So, two Kespa players in the finals. Elephants have finally arrived?


ST.Life skill is over bogus+soulkey together . he just need a couple more years . now that esf have the future . keep hyping your elephants. they will all enter the slaughterhouse soon enough .
1/4 \pi \epsilon_0
Targe
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom14103 Posts
May 24 2013 07:11 GMT
#50
That nydus all in was one of the coolest things I've seen, shame he tried it versus Bogus.
11/5/14 CATACLYSM | The South West's worst Falco main
Aserrin
Profile Joined October 2011
Uruguay231 Posts
May 24 2013 07:36 GMT
#51
Innovation has had an amazing run so far. He's simply beaten the best of the best: Life, Flash, Rain, SymboL, RorO. All of them manhandled, especially the Z. I don't think I've seen a GSL run this impressive in a long time, if ever.

Soulkey on the other hand had his best foes as sOs and PartinG, both which were extremely close series. Lost against Flash, beat Maru 2-1 twice and also Yoda and Flying 2-0. Those are nowhere near as strong as Innovation's foes, though.
Spacekyod
Profile Joined December 2010
United States818 Posts
May 24 2013 07:37 GMT
#52
Love me some Bogus and i hope that he wins, but Soulkey is no push over. People shouldn't be counting this as a one sided stomp just yet.
Riders of the Plastic Groove. "When all-in fails, all-in again!" Finally... Make way for the real DONG!
Melliflue
Profile Joined October 2012
United Kingdom1389 Posts
May 24 2013 07:39 GMT
#53
The AZUBU Zerg ventured into macro territory in the first game, but quickly switched to doing what he did best and managed to take more games off Innovation than anyone (including GSL champions) else this season.

Except for Rain who also took two games off Innovation. Rain beat Innovation 2-1 in the Ro32 group. Innovation actually lost the first Bo3 he played this season :p

But Innovation did get revenge by beating Rain 2-0 in the deciding match of the group.
p14c
Profile Joined May 2010
Vatican City State431 Posts
May 24 2013 07:53 GMT
#54
Come on people! Innovation is not unbeatable. He went 2-2 with Rain, Soulkey beat him, he's 3-5 vs Flash etc. He was lucky Flash went for a stupid mech build. It's stupid to proclaim him as bonjwa. He needs at least 5 GSLs and years of play at high level to say he is a bonjwa. I still don't understand why Life played macro games against him..
Game Over, Man! Game Over!
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
May 24 2013 07:58 GMT
#55
On May 24 2013 16:36 Aserrin wrote:
Innovation has had an amazing run so far. He's simply beaten the best of the best: Life, Flash, Rain, SymboL, RorO. All of them manhandled, especially the Z. I don't think I've seen a GSL run this impressive in a long time, if ever.

Soulkey on the other hand had his best foes as sOs and PartinG, both which were extremely close series. Lost against Flash, beat Maru 2-1 twice and also Yoda and Flying 2-0. Those are nowhere near as strong as Innovation's foes, though.


That's interesting. Has any past winner or finalist beaten both finalists of the previous season before?
gg no re thx
RKC
Profile Joined June 2012
2848 Posts
May 24 2013 08:04 GMT
#56
Also, interesting that Innovation has won against all races - and not only that, but also against players who are in the Top 5 of their race - en route to the finals. If he does win the finals, it would be one of the best tourney runs in GSL/WCS.
gg no re thx
Blargh
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2102 Posts
May 24 2013 08:45 GMT
#57
Innovation made the games look bad by being so much better than Symbol. Sad truth!
Oddball28
Profile Joined May 2013
Denmark2121 Posts
May 24 2013 10:40 GMT
#58
The tank place in the last game at the third expansion was absolute sickness. I'm looking forward to the finals, it's gonna be crazy!
LaNm, Iceiceice, Mushi, BurNIng and MMY - DK 2013/2014 - What a ride it was...
nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-24 11:47:54
May 24 2013 11:47 GMT
#59
On May 24 2013 16:53 p14c wrote:
Come on people! Innovation is not unbeatable. He went 2-2 with Rain, Soulkey beat him, he's 3-5 vs Flash etc. He was lucky Flash went for a stupid mech build. It's stupid to proclaim him as bonjwa. He needs at least 5 GSLs and years of play at high level to say he is a bonjwa. I still don't understand why Life played macro games against him..

You mean WCS-KRs? I think 5 is a bit too much. Also the number is not as relevant as result in a row. If he wins all WCS-KR (GSL, OSL, GSL) then I guess Bonjwahood is around the corner, especially if he will add WCS-WC trophy to the list.

Then again - maybe even that won't be enough.

And he isn't at the moment champion of anything. Jumping into Bonjwa wagon at this moment is weird.
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4504 Posts
May 24 2013 12:22 GMT
#60
That guarantees a trophy for either of the tormented teams STX or Woongjin, their first in nearly six years.


First title for a STX player in 6 years?What the hell?
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
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