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[WCS AM] Heartbreakers and Dream Takers - Ro32

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[WCS AM] Heartbreakers and Dream Takers - Ro32

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May 6th, 2013 18:39 GMT

2013 WCS Europe

WCS America Season 1 - Premier League



Heartbreakers and Dream Takers
Koreans cruise in week 1


Ro32: Week 2 Preview
Scarlett, HuK, viOLet, Polt, IdrA, and more!


Brackets and standings on Liquipedia

Week 1 Retrospective:
Heartbreakers and Dream Takers

by Wunder

The first week of WCS America has come and gone, and 8 Americans have gone along with it, with 0 players from North, Central, or South America making it out of their groups.

While there weren't high expectations for foreigners going into the first week, fans still held out on a glimmer of hope for a few groups. However, those hopes were all dashed as the Korean Invasion of WCS AM ensued in full force. The first dropships landed in the form of (T)coL.TheStC, and Root Gaming’s (Z)ViBE was there to receive him, and while he managed to wound the Complexity Terran by taking a 1-0 lead in their series with a roach-bane timing, he was summarily thrown into the loser’s match as TheStC barreled forward, using MMMM to wear Vibe down until the American buckled under the pressure.

The following day, another ROOT gaming player came close to causing an upset, this time in the form of Chad “(P)Minigun” Jones, who faced off against Quantic’s (T)Apocalypse. Similarly to his Zerg teammate, he managed to start the series off with a 1-0 lead. In game two, he managed to push the Korean Terran’s advances back with a nexus cannon and a line of forcefields, but a rash decision to move out allowed Apocalypse to sneak a group of units into the Protoss’ base and without energy to recall, leading to a disappointing GG. Minigun tried to do a 2-base timing in the rubber match, but Apocalypse once again managed to wriggle a few marines into the base of Minigun while the main army was out and did enough economic damage that the rest of the game was just a clean-up job for Apocalypse.

Group F
kr TheStC2 - 0
no Snute 2 - 1
us ViBE1 - 2
us theognis0 - 2
Group E
kr Nestea2 - 0
kr Apocalypse2 - 1
us Minigun1 - 2
[image loading]Fenix0 - 2
Group H
kr Alicia2 - 0
au mOOnGLaDe2 - 1
us Illusion1 - 2
mx Maker0 - 2
Group A
kr HerO2 - 0
kr aLive2 - 1
cl KiLLeR1 - 2
mx MajOr0 - 2


The heartbreak continued as the next day (T)mouz.Illusion looked like he was right on the verge of beating (P)Alicia and advancing first in his group. With the series tied 1 - 1, he decided a proxy 2 rax would be his best shot. Having deduced that the Protoss did not make a starting zealot, his plan worked flawlessly in that regard, as the Protoss had no initial answer to marines as they marched up his ramp along with a train of SCVs. However, Illusion made some preventable errors, and Alicia defended the all-in and came out in a commanding position. From there the game was all but over as the Protoss waltzed two stalkers and a mothership core straight into the Terran’s base and crushed the dreams of many.

Last but certainly not least, was the most unexpected performance of Clarity Gaming’s (Z)c.KiLLeR. While his Latin American compatriots were getting eliminated by Koreans and Americans alike, the Zerg player from Chile stepped up his game and was the first foreigner to take an entire series from a Korean. In what was arguably the hardest group for the week, the Chilean Zerg managed to beat EG’s (T)aLive 2-1 with the power of roach rushes, and once more the flame of the Americas was kept burning. Unfortunately, it was extinguished in the next two sets, as (P)HerO bounced KiLLeR to a return match against aLive. This time around, the Korean Terran did not take any chances, beating the Zerg player 2 - 0.

While no one from the Americas managed to actually advance from their group, there will still be a foreign presence in WCS America. Liquid’s (Z)Snute and Nv’s (Z)mOOnGLaDe both advanced last week, both as their countries' sole representatives in the Premier Division. One could say they are in an even more dire situation than the 'Americans,' who still have four more chances ahead of them this week. Going into the Ro16, Snute and mOOnGLaDe will have to step up their game, as neither player managed to defeat a Korean and the next group stage will no doubt be filled with them.

Premier League Ro32: Week 2 Preview

by Pokebunny, Waxangel, and Wunder

May 6 - Group D: us (Z)EG.Suppy.RC, kr (T)AX.Heart, kr (T)AX.Ryung, us (P)Hellokitty

To open up week two, Group D continues the theme of week one: two Americans attempt to stave off the invasion of Koreans. Even worse, the two invaders are members of the StarCraft master race: Korean Terran. Historically, Korean Terrans have been the destroyers of foreign tournaments, somehow always managing to place within the top eight of any tournament they enter outside of Korea.

Things look grim for (Z)Suppy and (P)Hellokitty as they face off against Axiom's fearsome Terran duo of (T)Heart and (T)Ryung. Still, don't lose all hope just yet - even if HotS has limited the amount of suspicious ZvT upsets we saw in the last year of Wings of Liberty from foreign Zergs. If this was Wings of Liberty, I might be ready to call Suppy over Heart - but with HotS perfectly supplementing Heart's off-the-wall, super aggressive style with even more strange options to surprise Suppy with, I can't see a part-time American Zerg being prepared for everything Heart has to throw at him. Even should he get into comfortable macro games, ZvT is no longer what it once ways, and Heart is certainly no slouch in the mechanical skills department either. Look for some clever plays from Heart backed by solid macro to take quick victories over Suppy.

At first glance, (P)Kitty's chances appear to be even more slim - Ryung is a hardened veteran of Code S seasons past, while Kitty hasn't had the breakout performances in international tournaments that Suppy has had. Still, Ryung might be one of the better Korean matchups Kitty could draw - with Ryung being historically weak TvP and Kitty showing no hesitation in playing abusive or cheesy strategies to snatch up wins, it isn't entirely out of the question that he could pick up a game or maybe even two. Still, I must once again emphasize that there's a massive hill to climb for Kitty, whose invitation to WCS America was a head-scratcher to begin with.

It's hard to see either Korean failing to advance. Both are players experienced in both the GSL booth and the international scene, and while they may not be major championship winners, they have the skills to get the job done. Despite varying playstyles and possibilities, in the end we should see Ryung and Heart take their place among their Korean brethren in the Ro16 of WCS America.

Predictions:

Suppy < Heart
Hellokitty < Ryung
Heart < Ryung
Suppy > Hellokitty
Heart > Suppy

Ryung and Heart advance.


May 7 - Group B: ca (Z)Acer.Scarlett, us (P)State, kr (Z)Azubu.viOLet, kr (P)EG.Oz.RC


The one player from the Americas with probably the highest chance of advancing to the Ro16, (Z)Acer.Scarlett, takes the stage this week in what could be one of the hotly contested groups in the Ro32. Strangely, two North American players are playing each other to begin, something that hasn't occured throughout the rest of the groups, which means that at least one North American will make it to the winner’s match. While not much has been seen from (P)State after he dropped out of MLG Dallas losing 0 - 3 to PartinG, he did manage to qualify for SHOUTcraft America through his ladder position, which suggests he has kept up on his practice. Scarlett on the other hand, has been making multiple appearances in the Acer Teamstory Cup and the GSTL, picking up wins against Terrans such as Mvp and Apocalypse, and was even setting up to snipe ByuN last week in the GSTL in case Crank fell. She doesn’t have any recorded games against Protoss however, so it remains to be seen how strong her ZvP is in HotS.

On the other side of the group, EG's (P)Oz faces off against America’s Sweetheart (Z)Azubu.viOLet in another ZvP. While Oz has been playing often in Proleague, he hasn’t been doing too well, with losses to Zest and even Kop in the last round. He didn’t have a stellar Dreamhack Stockholm run either, with losses to Coca and teammate Jaedong knocking him out of the tournament before the Ro16 brackets. Regardless, he did qualify through the online qualifier, so he has fully earned his spot in this tournament. While Oz has been busy losing to other Koreans, viOLet has been quietly biding his time in HotS so far. Even though the captain of Azubu made his way over to Korea to help his teammates in the GSTL, he has yet to play a single game for his team. This means that he’ll have the element of surprise against Oz and could pull the wool over his eyes. It could also mean he hasn't been doing as well as expected, to be passed over in favor of (Z)BBoongBBoong.

This is a tough group to predict, with not many televised games across the four players, and there is always the lingering fantasy of a foreigner victory. With arguably the greatest chance before our eyes, it’s hard to resist giving into the dream and predicting both Scarlett and State to advance. Yes, the odds are stacked against them, and yes, Oz and viOLet are probably going to prove us wrong and crush the dreams of thousands. But, where there is hope, there is a way, and there is most definitely hope.

Predictions:

Scarlett > State
viOLet > Oz
viOLet > Scarlett
Oz > State
Scarlett > Oz

viOLet and Scarlett advance.


May 8 - Group C: us (Z)EG.IdrA.RC, kr (T)CMStorm_Polt, kr (Z)EG.Revival.RC, us (Z)Mill.Goswser


Group C brings brings a ton of star power to the table, and for those looking for an opportunity to chant "USA! USA!" there may be no sweeter opportunity than (Z)EG.IdrA.RC vs. (T)CMStorm_Polt. On the other side, (Z)Mill.Goswser vs. (Z)EG.Revival.RC brings another interesting matchup to the table, and while foreign Zergs appear to be struggling more in HotS than WoL, a ZvZ matchup could be a good chance for goswser to prove that he is the best American Zerg.

IdrA will forever be IdrA, and there isn't a whole lot more we can say about him. He has his ups and downs, he can look really strong on the NA ladder, he can look like a raging idiot on the NA ladder, he can beat a top Korean, and he can lose to just about anybody. IdrA never seems to be able to progress past the stage of inconsistently talented, despite showing flashes veteran savvy you'd expect from such an experienced player. If IdrA can be on his game and keep it together for an entire series, there aren't many people he can't beat. Unfortunately, he's going to have to be completely on his game to take out the now personally sponsored Polt. Perhaps the straight-up scariest of the band of Korean Terrans that have chosen to work their way through WCS America, Polt's list of achievements is long and illustrious, especially against foreign players. His strong multitasking and smart bio play should see him excel in the modern state of TvZ, and it wouldn't be surprising to see Polt go all the way in a WCS America field with not too many true superstars.

RevivaL vs. goswser looks like a far less interesting matchup on paper, but in reality, it's pretty difficult to pick a definite winner. RevivaL is certainly no slouch - the ex-TSL Zerg line players have all proven their worth time and time again for their new employers - but goswser is a truly dedicated player who won't back down from a challenge. With good mechanical skill and smart play, goswser is a well-rounded Zerg player that could challenge the Korean domination we've seen thus far. It's hard to get too excited about a ZvZ, but hopefully we at least get an interesting series with some suspense and excitement.

It would be a massive surprise to see IdrA beat Polt, but I wouldn't totally rule it out - history has shown that IdrA can truly rise to the occasion from time to time, despite those instances being far too infrequent for him to be considered a serious title contender. We've seen him take out players like MC and Bomber in their heyday just to fall flat a day later. Goswser almost represents the other side of the American Zerg coin, a skilled player who goes mostly unheralded even when he does manage to take names (at least, compared to IdrA). Once again, the Koreans will be the favorites, but this group could easily become very interesting to follow with just one upset to shake things up.

Predictions:

IdrA < Polt
RevivaL < goswser
Polt > goswser
IdrA < RevivaL
goswser < RevivaL

Polt and Revival advance


May 9 - Group G: tw (Z)Gammania.Sen, [image loading] (P)isurus.Capoch, ca (P)EG.HuK.RC, kr (P)AX.CranK


The final group of the Ro32 is one of the most diverse ones, featuring players from four different countries and three different continents.

It might sound shocking, but a non-Korean player actually has a case to be called the best player in the group. We rarely get to see (Z)Sen play outside of Taiwan, but whenever he does, he always brings top level play capable of taking down Korean players (his 4th place finish at least year's WCS finals was a big reminder). While it's probably a stretch to say he's Code S class, he's definitely shown us enough skill to make us think he could be a regular fixture in Code A and the Up/Down matches.

(P)AX.CranK is the resident Korean in the group, and is probably still the favorite to advance in the eyes of many. He's not a consistent player by any means, but you can give him a pass on that end considering he was deeply embroiled in the SlayerS drama in 2012, and is now juggling the responsibilities of being Axiom's manager-player-coach-captain-chef-driver. He started his HotS career poorly with a bad showing at the ESET UK Masters (losses to HeRoMaRinE, Tefel, and Sting), but has really picked things up since by becoming a vital part of Axiom's team league efforts.

The biggest star and biggest wildcard in this group is (P)EG.HuK.RC. It's easy to underrate HuK, as he has the misfortune of playing a lot of highly publicized matched against very good Korean players. Gumiho and Sniper stomped over him in Code S, Innovation 3 - 0'd him at MLG, and Brood War veteran Light handed him an embarrassing loss in the Proleague. Alright, we get it: HuK can't hang with top level Koreans. But it's not like many foreigners can.

When HuK got a chance to play against a more 'normal' level of competition at DreamHack Stockholm a few weeks ago, he was able to shine. He defeated fan favorites like Polt and Grubby as he went through the group stages, reaching the Ro16 before he was eliminated by Gumiho. Additionally, the reason he earned a Proleague appearance in the first place was because he performed well enough in internal practice, even if he crumbled horribly under pressure once he entered the booth. HuK at his best is definitely more than capable of making it through this group, ESPECIALLY with his vs. Korean match being a PvP.

Finally we have (P)isurus.Capoch, another player given a seed to WCS America due to being a national champion in WCS 2012 (as to why Brazil's Potiguar and Colombia's Adj didn't receive seeds, you'll have to ask someone else). So far in the tournament these seeds have amounted to little more than charity, with the American, Chilean, Mexican, and Peruvian champions all being eliminated. Capoch barely has a chance here at all, but with all the other Latin American representatives gone, he's the only one to rest your hopes on.

Predictions:

Sen > Capoch
Crank > HuK
Sen > Crank
HuK > Capoch
HuK > Crank

Sen and HuK advance.

Writers: Pokebunny, Waxangel, and Wunder.
Graphics: shiroiusagi.
Editor: Waxangel.
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llIH
Profile Joined June 2011
Norway2143 Posts
May 06 2013 18:49 GMT
#2
Polt and IdrA. Please advance both!
Rustug
Profile Joined October 2010
1488 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 18:52:52
May 06 2013 18:50 GMT
#3
Thanks for the write up.

F.Y.I. Alicia, Group H, has a US flag.
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torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
May 06 2013 18:51 GMT
#4
things not looking good for american players.
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
Phybe
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom21 Posts
May 06 2013 18:54 GMT
#5
HuK over CranK? Personally I think even with delay CranK can take it.
BnBTaurveus
Profile Joined April 2011
United States14 Posts
May 06 2013 18:54 GMT
#6
Nice write-up, IdrA in last place of the group and Sen in first I agree
BnBTaurveus
Profile Joined April 2011
United States14 Posts
May 06 2013 18:55 GMT
#7
I have to disagree with you with Suppy's group, I think he has a chance of advancing over Heart.
Master of DalK
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Canada1797 Posts
May 06 2013 18:56 GMT
#8
SCARLETT, SEN, HuK and Polt FIGHTING! Gogo Non-Koreans~!
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Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
May 06 2013 18:58 GMT
#9
There are way more hope for this second week than for the first for american players. Scarlett, Goswser, Suppy, HuK have good chances to qualify compared to their fellows.
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kollin
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom8380 Posts
May 06 2013 18:59 GMT
#10
Idra comeback 2013
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33388 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 19:00:34
May 06 2013 19:00 GMT
#11
IdrA is getting 5.230 odds against Polt, if I could legally bet from the USA that would be tempting!
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Zaphid
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1860 Posts
May 06 2013 19:01 GMT
#12
Not predicting Crank to advance ? Brave.
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33388 Posts
May 06 2013 19:04 GMT
#13
On May 07 2013 04:01 Zaphid wrote:
Not predicting Crank to advance ? Brave.


you never know, he could burn his right hand on the stove as he tries to cook for everyone
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Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
May 06 2013 19:05 GMT
#14
I could see Scarlett, Sen, and possibly Huk getting through... everything else is a longer shot.

Then again, Polt and ViOlet should definitely be american ^^
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felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
May 06 2013 19:08 GMT
#15
While Violet has returned to Korea to be a part of Azubu's GSTL line up, I think the US has picked up an amazing non-American American in the form of Polt.

Something about Koreans that go to live in Texas - I just want to call them Americans. And if we could "steal" a Korean player, I'd want it to be Polt.

So can we chant USA USA USA for Polt? Because I'm totally there.
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DeathProfessor
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1052 Posts
May 06 2013 19:08 GMT
#16
Top 4 Americans:
Goswser is America's Hope.
Suppy beating Heart is doable and all he needs to do, I like him I think hes growing as a player and good chance to become a BO16.
Idra already had a good writeup. Still I can't put him at bottom because the kid tries so hard, I just hope he wakes up on the right side of the bed tomorrow. And if he burns out this time, we may never see him again so I kinda hope he goes out in a blaze of glory.
Hellokitty - Most curious about
State - Its State don't wanna be rude so yeah.
emanresU
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany393 Posts
May 06 2013 19:12 GMT
#17
I love Crank though so I am cheering for him and Sen can get out of anything so that's what I hope for.
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 06 2013 19:24 GMT
#18
Go Axiom! 4 for 4!

I would also love to see State pull out the ultimate darkhorse performance and advance to the RO16.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
May 06 2013 19:24 GMT
#19
More NA blood incoming... I like it!.. I only hope Sen does well :D
ChriseC
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany440 Posts
May 06 2013 19:27 GMT
#20
koreans showing us how to be a true amurican
Aserrin
Profile Joined October 2011
Uruguay231 Posts
May 06 2013 19:27 GMT
#21
IdrA a big name? Maybe, but he's nowhere near as accomplished/good as the other three.
Wampaibist
Profile Joined July 2010
United States478 Posts
May 06 2013 19:35 GMT
#22
go idra! realese The GRACKEN
Kabras
Profile Joined June 2011
Romania3508 Posts
May 06 2013 19:39 GMT
#23
well i sure hope idra advances, but seeing how he loses like 80% of his ladder games against random guys that's pretty unlikely
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Schelim
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Austria11528 Posts
May 06 2013 19:47 GMT
#24
lol i hadn't even realized that in the first week, every single american player didn't advance and every single non-american player did. that's hilarious.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 06 2013 19:49 GMT
#25
Can someone make the thread for Group D (group that's playing today)? I won't be around to make any this week.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=339146&currentpage=24#466
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 06 2013 19:50 GMT
#26
On May 07 2013 04:27 Aserrin wrote:
IdrA a big name? Maybe, but he's nowhere near as accomplished/good as the other three.


If you look at the big picture (all of SC2), Idra is the 2nd most accomplished player in the group (2nd only to Polt), having won an IEM, and getting top 8 in the GSL, and top 4 twice at MLG. He also won an MLG in 2010, and IPL 1.

For the last 16 months though, Idra's performance has been very mediocre, with a top 16 finish at the BWC being the only major result.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
May 06 2013 19:53 GMT
#27
Thank You SOOO MUCH for your restored faith in HuK :D
my only disagreement is that ifeel suppy can (and hopefully will) defeat heart
other than that, we on le same page TL
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CreatorGX
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States121 Posts
May 06 2013 19:59 GMT
#28
Go Everybody! Kick the other person's butt! Win!

I'll be checking out Groups B and C, as I don't expect many surprises from the other two groups. GLHF.
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Henk
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands578 Posts
May 06 2013 20:08 GMT
#29
Honestly, can you still call Idra a 'big name' at this point?
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 06 2013 20:10 GMT
#30
On May 07 2013 05:08 Henk wrote:
Honestly, can you still call Idra a 'big name' at this point?

I think it's still fair to call him a big name in terms of popularity because he is still one of the most popular players.
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Ventris
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany1226 Posts
May 06 2013 20:10 GMT
#31
Not sure why exactly Hellokitty got a premiere league invite. Ah whatever.
Propably more slaughter of americans next week.
rift
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
1819 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 20:12:49
May 06 2013 20:10 GMT
#32
"dream takers"... what of the dreams of the korean players? are they not one step closer to their dream of being a wcs champion? the tone of the article suggests their sole purpose is to take away the hopes of "our" players.
ArcadeR
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany199 Posts
May 06 2013 20:14 GMT
#33
wtf happened to Maj0r ? Wasn't he suggested to be one of the best (despite the fact nobodys has seen anything from him) ? No offense, just interested o.O
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 06 2013 20:17 GMT
#34
On May 07 2013 05:14 ArcadeR wrote:
wtf happened to Maj0r ? Wasn't he suggested to be one of the best (despite the fact nobodys has seen anything from him) ? No offense, just interested o.O

He looked pretty good in game 1 vs HerO and solid in game 1 vs aLive but he had the misfortune of playing 2 Koreans in a row that were still better than him. He looked like one of the better foreigners in the first week and probably would have had a decent shot in some of the other groups.
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Torigon
Profile Joined December 2012
France32 Posts
May 06 2013 20:30 GMT
#35
HuK advance ? Dat joke.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 06 2013 20:41 GMT
#36
On May 07 2013 05:30 Torigon wrote:
HuK advance ? Dat joke.

It's not unrealistic if he can PvP his way through
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
May 06 2013 20:44 GMT
#37
On May 07 2013 05:30 Torigon wrote:
HuK advance ? Dat joke.

hah HuK NOT advancing?
Dat joke
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The_Green_One
Profile Joined March 2011
Argentina3 Posts
May 06 2013 20:45 GMT
#38
The Pope is in Capoch´s side, so dont count him out (also is Messi, but i dont know if he has the same powers than the pope)
ArcadeR
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany199 Posts
May 06 2013 20:55 GMT
#39
On May 07 2013 05:17 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 05:14 ArcadeR wrote:
wtf happened to Maj0r ? Wasn't he suggested to be one of the best (despite the fact nobodys has seen anything from him) ? No offense, just interested o.O

He looked pretty good in game 1 vs HerO and solid in game 1 vs aLive but he had the misfortune of playing 2 Koreans in a row that were still better than him. He looked like one of the better foreigners in the first week and probably would have had a decent shot in some of the other groups.


Ok, thx for the update...sounds really unfortunate :/
MHT
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden1026 Posts
May 06 2013 21:17 GMT
#40
Oh the irony, its almost unreal how it could literally not go any worse for NA.
SaleritoCHILE
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Chile28 Posts
May 06 2013 21:21 GMT
#41
6korianos damn....
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Soda-88
Profile Joined April 2012
Croatia476 Posts
May 06 2013 21:36 GMT
#42
Excuse me, you might wanna correct Minigun with motherf***ing.
Bumalate
Profile Joined January 2012
United States33 Posts
May 06 2013 21:37 GMT
#43
Sorry guys, Polt is Korean as much as I would love to have him on our side. On the same track of mind though... Polt hwaiting!
Dongraegu <3
Yunarc
Profile Joined March 2011
United States314 Posts
May 06 2013 21:42 GMT
#44
I really hope Scarlett can make it though, probably the best chance for an American player
ajxPurpleRain
Profile Joined July 2012
United States87 Posts
May 06 2013 21:53 GMT
#45
The white guys versus foreigners thing just isn't a good enough storyline. There isn't a competition here in any real sense. I think it's about time that people who do these write-ups dig a little deeper to come up with something to talk about. If NA cna't come up with anything, even in this competition than I think we'll be better served by concerning ourselves with shit that might actually occur. When Polt and Revival advance tonight, can we find out something about Polt and Revival so that we have something to say about them other than that they are Koreans?
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 06 2013 21:55 GMT
#46
On May 07 2013 06:42 Yunarc wrote:
I really hope Scarlett can make it though, probably the best chance for an American player


ca Scarlett is not 'merican, you can't have her.
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
May 06 2013 22:00 GMT
#47
Idra beating Polt would actually cause an earthquake from thousands of simultaneously dropped jaws. He refuses to play a good terran legit on NA ladder (instaleaves vs Demuslim every single time) so hes either hiding a great ZvT or he's just given up on the matchup entirely.
I hope it's the former, at least for the surprise factor.
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
May 06 2013 22:09 GMT
#48
On May 07 2013 03:54 Phybe wrote:
HuK over CranK? Personally I think even with delay CranK can take it.

Huk has historically been good at PvP and has still got the potential to be one of the best foreigners.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 06 2013 22:13 GMT
#49
On May 07 2013 06:55 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 06:42 Yunarc wrote:
I really hope Scarlett can make it though, probably the best chance for an American player


ca Scarlett is not 'merican, you can't have her.

Like we need Scarlett. We have us viOLet and us Polt
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mhael
Profile Joined January 2012
United States102 Posts
May 06 2013 22:19 GMT
#50
Wow... I ... am... so... shocked....

Nobody imaginined it would turn out any different right?

Korea is still light years ahead and it will take the world another 10 - 20 years to catch up. Just like at the 1992 dream team for basketball. That was 20 years go... the world is barely catching up and are still aways off from really competing.
Denzil
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom4193 Posts
May 06 2013 23:03 GMT
#51
On May 07 2013 07:00 Resilient wrote:
Idra beating Polt would actually cause an earthquake from thousands of simultaneously dropped jaws. He refuses to play a good terran legit on NA ladder (instaleaves vs Demuslim every single time) so hes either hiding a great ZvT or he's just given up on the matchup entirely.
I hope it's the former, at least for the surprise factor.


Please god be the former, something like when he played MVP or Bomber

It'd be sad if he did give up on it, he's never given up before on a match up I wouldn't expect a paid professional to do such a thing but it is Grack
Anna: So Sen how will you prepare for your revenge v MC? Sen: With a smile.
charlie0586
Profile Joined June 2011
2 Posts
May 06 2013 23:10 GMT
#52
The WCS system is a shit.

Soon the Korean will take all the positions of all continents.

However, that doesn't sounds so bad. Kick out all the poor white players, and we can enjoy games with higher skills.
charlie0586
Profile Joined June 2011
2 Posts
May 06 2013 23:11 GMT
#53
On May 07 2013 08:10 charlie0586 wrote:
The WCS system is a shit.

Soon the Korean will take all the positions of all continents.

However, that doesn't sounds so bad. Kick out all the poor white players, and we can enjoy games with higher skills.


I really interested to know what in Bliz's mind to propose such a system.
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
May 06 2013 23:30 GMT
#54
Lets go hellokitty
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
igay
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Australia1178 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-06 23:32:43
May 06 2013 23:32 GMT
#55
Also so much QQ about all the Koreans in AM league but tbh i'm a fan of the domination
MVP <3 MKP <3 DRG <3
EnumaAvalon
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Philippines3613 Posts
May 06 2013 23:54 GMT
#56
HuK over Crank? I don't think so.
(._.) ( l: ) ( .-. ) ( :l ) (._.) They see me rolling. They hating.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
May 07 2013 00:25 GMT
#57
It's Colombia, not Columbia.
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Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
May 07 2013 00:43 GMT
#58
On May 07 2013 07:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 06:55 Dodgin wrote:
On May 07 2013 06:42 Yunarc wrote:
I really hope Scarlett can make it though, probably the best chance for an American player


ca Scarlett is not 'merican, you can't have her.

Like we need Scarlett. We have us viOLet and us Polt

But they has HuK
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AimlessAmoeba
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada704 Posts
May 07 2013 01:00 GMT
#59
The title of this article suggests that it is the least bit surprising.

Did literally anyone not see this coming?
Thrax
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada1755 Posts
May 07 2013 01:14 GMT
#60
On May 07 2013 09:43 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 07:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 07 2013 06:55 Dodgin wrote:
On May 07 2013 06:42 Yunarc wrote:
I really hope Scarlett can make it though, probably the best chance for an American player


ca Scarlett is not 'merican, you can't have her.

Like we need Scarlett. We have us viOLet and us Polt

But they has HuK

They have Suppy
ke_ivan
Profile Joined February 2011
Singapore374 Posts
May 07 2013 01:47 GMT
#61
remember when scarlett said that she wanted to prove that americas are better than europe? i really like her but... no.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 07 2013 01:49 GMT
#62
Heart-breaker indeed. Suppy and Hellokitty with the upsets.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
ercilioshoran
Profile Joined April 2013
Brazil2 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 02:54:50
May 07 2013 02:47 GMT
#63
My hope is (Z)Sen!! He can beat any korean player!
For me, the BEST and more talented player!
Zerg!!
LimeNade
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2125 Posts
May 07 2013 03:49 GMT
#64
"Things look grim for Suppy " sup now? :D
JD, need I say more? :D
TheShimmy
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1808 Posts
May 07 2013 03:49 GMT
#65
We've got to get at least ONE American in. I believe...
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diophan
Profile Joined September 2011
United States1018 Posts
May 07 2013 04:12 GMT
#66
Please continue to pad my liquibets Koreans playing in AM.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 07 2013 04:20 GMT
#67
yay suppy :D
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RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
May 07 2013 04:40 GMT
#68
Someone's been listening to Mia Martina.
Someone call down the Thunder?
xtyxtbx
Profile Joined December 2011
United States53 Posts
May 07 2013 04:44 GMT
#69
I'll pull for Polt and Gowser. Goswser has been making the NA scene still a challenge. One of the few good American players. Idra, i can hope for, but i'm 50/50 on him.
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LingBlingBling
Profile Joined December 2012
United States353 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 05:09:48
May 07 2013 05:06 GMT
#70
People seem to put down idra just because of his stream. But IdrA always steps his game up when it's a real event, he did well in WCS last year. Also IdrA always beats polt when ever he is matched vs him on the ladder, also during beta idra really never lost to polt. Of course thats ladder but still.

+polt is not a full time pro gamer anymore, he no longer has that Korean support system that made him a god back when he was doing GSL in wings.

He goes to school and has a pretty American life style. So I think IdrA has a very good chance in his group, Also every time I see IdrA play vs gosw he never loses very often as well. I think Revival is IdrA's only real threat as he is under Coach Park's training. IdrA has a better zvz style imo then gosw does,gosw most likely will try to Cheese idra as idra is the better macro player between the 2, I see Idra playing safe, defending his cheese and winning, or losing to cheese from gosw
Remember our motto: We ain't got it.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
May 07 2013 05:48 GMT
#71
goggogogo Sen!!!!!
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Saih
Profile Joined March 2013
Australia9 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-07 06:03:16
May 07 2013 06:01 GMT
#72
Among all the people who've made it into Ro16 so far, only Suppy and Moonglade are "supposed" to be in the NA league.


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SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH...really having some mixed feeling about this.


User was warned for this post
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Evil_Sheep
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada902 Posts
May 07 2013 06:16 GMT
#73
On May 07 2013 03:39 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:
To open up week two, Group D continues the theme of week one: two Americans attempt to stave off the invasion of Koreans. Even worse, the two invaders are members of the StarCraft master race: Korean Terran.

Wow, Suppy just took your precious Korean Terrans and shit on them. Apparently they weren't aware of the presence of that other extremely dangerous and successful master race: Asian-Americans.
Holo82
Profile Joined April 2013
Austria107 Posts
May 07 2013 08:56 GMT
#74
On May 07 2013 15:01 Saih wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
Among all the people who've made it into Ro16 so far, only Suppy and Moonglade are "supposed" to be in the NA league.


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....................................,.-'"...................``~.,
.............................,.-"..................................."-.,
.........................,/...............................................":,
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.................../...........................................................,}
................./......................................................,:`^`..}
.............../...................................................,:"........./
..............?.....__.........................................:`.........../
............./__.(....."~-,_..............................,:`........../
.........../(_...."~,_........"~,_....................,:`........_/
..........{.._$;_......"=,_......."-,_.......,.-~-,},.~";/....}
...........((.....*~_......."=-._......";,,./`..../"............../
...,,,___.`~,......"~.,....................`.....}............../
............(....`=-,,.......`........................(......;_,,-"
............/.`~,......`-...................................../
.............`~.*-,.....................................|,./.....,__
,,_..........}.>-._...................................|..............`=~-,
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........................................_..........._,-%.......`
...................................,

SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIGH...really having some mixed feeling about this.



For 279849th time : its not a NA leage, and Australia is nowhere in NA too.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
May 07 2013 17:25 GMT
#75
This is suuuuch a joke tournament, and has been from the start (with the amount of non-AM involvement). Shoutcraft America is far superior for the local scene.

I guess I'll maybe watch the North, South, and Central Americans play their few games.
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[OGN]Remmy
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1206 Posts
May 07 2013 18:25 GMT
#76
USA USA USA
I know that they day has come and I wish that more Americans can advance into the Ro 16, especially IdrA that I like him so much!!
指原莉乃 應援
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13974 Posts
May 07 2013 20:55 GMT
#77
On May 07 2013 10:14 Thrax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 09:43 Cricketer12 wrote:
On May 07 2013 07:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 07 2013 06:55 Dodgin wrote:
On May 07 2013 06:42 Yunarc wrote:
I really hope Scarlett can make it though, probably the best chance for an American player


ca Scarlett is not 'merican, you can't have her.

Like we need Scarlett. We have us viOLet and us Polt

But they has HuK

They have Suppy

We wil trade u Suppy for HuK...but he played unbelievably last night OMG
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NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
May 08 2013 20:59 GMT
#78
On May 08 2013 05:55 Cricketer12 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2013 10:14 Thrax wrote:
On May 07 2013 09:43 Cricketer12 wrote:
On May 07 2013 07:13 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On May 07 2013 06:55 Dodgin wrote:
On May 07 2013 06:42 Yunarc wrote:
I really hope Scarlett can make it though, probably the best chance for an American player


ca Scarlett is not 'merican, you can't have her.

Like we need Scarlett. We have us viOLet and us Polt

But they has HuK

They have Suppy

We wil trade u Suppy for HuK...but he played unbelievably last night OMG


Huk has dual citizenship. He's both American and Canadian in the legal sense. So we can share him right?
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
May 09 2013 00:23 GMT
#79
lol at huk over crank
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