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On April 11 2013 13:03 Hrrrrm wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 12:23 skeldark wrote:
Its kind of funny that some people are invited based on tournements they where invited because of tournements they were invited.... This goes on for years now.
And we all know, they would not make it throw a single qualifier.
All to have some consistent names in the events.
Wonder how long they can push them up.
This honestly can't be said enough. SC2(outside of Korea) has been the absolute worst "esport" that I've seen where popular players are protected to the degree they are. God forbid they actually have to qualify against people who aren't salaried and are playing part time. They might lose and be exposed as they frauds they are. Can't have that. Korean scene has had the success it's had primarily because of the open nature of Code A qualifiers motivating players to at least try. Hell Bisu still hasn't been able to qualify yet. If this were taking place in NA he'd be getting invites to every tournament under the sun.
This will certainly change by the time next season comes around, though it might just be EG-TL-AX roflstomping the qualifiers.
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I just don't understand why Koreans were invited to NA/EU at all, they are neither they are Korean, they should have to fight through qualifiers to play in a region they aren't even part of.
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On April 11 2013 08:14 ThE_OsToJiY wrote:
So I guess 2nd in WCS Canada, 7th in WCS NA and qualifying for World Finals isn't good enough these days : (
You probably are not the only one wondering how they picked this list GL in the qualifiers I guess?
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No demuslim, no white-ra are very odd, especially with some of the players announced. Not to say those players are bad...but especially demuslim who actually has real results in 2012? I don't see how he gets left off this list of invites in both NA and EU. Guess they had to make sure there was room for KR players in NA/EU har har >.>
On another note that makes some sense, no transparency to how people were selected leaves nothing but massive amounts of questions. All the impending why him and not him talk would of been quelled with that one simple move. Unless of course the selection process was not very statistic in nature which would explain why no transparency.
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The worst thing that can possibly happen will be if it comes out that Demuslim would have been seeded into WCS EU, but lost out on a seed because he choose NA. I'm pretty sure if the information was made available to him of seeding based on region, he'd probably choose the region with the seed. That would be severe incompetence on Blizzard's behalf in not making information available and would cost Demuslim at least a 32nd place payout from a WCS regional.
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On April 11 2013 08:13 Glurkenspurk wrote:
Hellokitty over kane?
Yeah i really feel that kane deserved it.
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On April 11 2013 13:38 E.L.V.I.S wrote:Yeah i really feel that kane deserved it.
post kanes wcs results
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On April 11 2013 13:38 E.L.V.I.S wrote:Yeah i really feel that kane deserved it.
Please stop saying Hellokitty > other notable players. Hellokitty does have results even if you don't know about them. It bothers me that players like Kane, Demuslim etc. aren't up there but you should be asking why they allowed so many Koreans (Ones that DO NOT live here and have no intention of living here) to be invited when there are so many foreigners that want this and now they have to go through a stacked qualifier. I confidently believe they'll make it through the qualifiers regardless, but it's disappointing nonetheless.
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This will be a sweet tourney to watch. Lots of good names and players.
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... I'm okay with Polt and Violet in the NA list. I'm pretty sure Texas has claimed both.
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Can't believe no Demuslim in NA or EU...
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Happy to see it wasn't as bad as I tought its gonna be.
I can understand the people that only want to watch the highest of competition, but dunno I guess Im dumb or something for wanting to see NA / EU level of play more.
Now I just have to crossmahfingers and hope demuslim does the impossible and destroys "few" (;p) Koreans in the qualifier  .
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On April 11 2013 14:06 stfouri wrote:Happy to see it wasn't as bad as I tought its gonna be. I can understand the people that only want to watch the highest of competition, but dunno I guess Im dumb or something for wanting to see NA / EU level of play more. Now I just have to crossmahfingers and hope demuslim does the impossible and destroys "few" (;p) Koreans in the qualifier .
Saw him twice against polt today. Looked on par with polt (he even macrod better), just the engagements that went polts way. still took a couple of games of polt, thats pretty good. Polt said he should play proleague. He will do fine and advance.
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On April 11 2013 13:03 Hrrrrm wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 12:23 skeldark wrote:
Its kind of funny that some people are invited based on tournements they where invited because of tournements they were invited.... This goes on for years now.
And we all know, they would not make it throw a single qualifier.
All to have some consistent names in the events.
Wonder how long they can push them up.
This honestly can't be said enough. SC2(outside of Korea) has been the absolute worst "esport" that I've seen where popular players are protected to the degree they are. God forbid they actually have to qualify against people who aren't salaried and are playing part time. They might lose and be exposed as they frauds they are. Can't have that. Korean scene has had the success it's had primarily because of the open nature of Code A qualifiers motivating players to at least try. Hell Bisu still hasn't been able to qualify yet. If this were taking place in NA he'd be getting invites to every tournament under the sun.
You are delusional. First of all, they had to start somewhere. Second of all, if popularity would be of question, no doubt they would invite Demuslim. Or Incontrol. Heck, even Machine is more popular then Maker or whoever. Catz... Or White-Ra to EU.
Second part is bullshit again, they had success because they had 10 years of BW experience. Also, there is gonna be Code A for NA and EU starting this very season. Challenger league = Code A.
As for the guy you are replying to - seeding seems to be based on 2012 WCS which was completely open, so he also talks out of his ass.
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no Demuslim? :/
who the fuck are Hellokitty and Capoch? they are code S? and why is Snute on NA?
EU should be really good though, that's a badass lineup. not sure what TLO and BabyKnight are doing on there but aside from that it's very solid.
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Yes minigun! WTF nestea in NA?
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So now that I get that most of the seeding for this was from WCS.. Why are they using year old pre expansion results? Even ladder would make more sense now.
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On April 11 2013 13:03 Hrrrrm wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2013 12:23 skeldark wrote:
Its kind of funny that some people are invited based on tournements they where invited because of tournements they were invited.... This goes on for years now.
And we all know, they would not make it throw a single qualifier.
All to have some consistent names in the events.
Wonder how long they can push them up.
This honestly can't be said enough. SC2(outside of Korea) has been the absolute worst "esport" that I've seen where popular players are protected to the degree they are. God forbid they actually have to qualify against people who aren't salaried and are playing part time. They might lose and be exposed as they frauds they are. Can't have that. Korean scene has had the success it's had primarily because of the open nature of Code A qualifiers motivating players to at least try. Hell Bisu still hasn't been able to qualify yet. If this were taking place in NA he'd be getting invites to every tournament under the sun.
Well the good news is...with this GSL style format, these players will drop down if they aren`t good enough. Sure it will be very questionable to start off because of the invites, but I think it will be better later on.
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After watching Demuslim play Polt, there's no question he is one of the best foreigners right now. He would be an actual threat to get into the top eight of WCS NA if he was in the tournament. Was very impressive.
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