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[GSL] Finals Recap: Life vs. Mvp (Season 4) - Page 3

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DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
October 20 2012 12:30 GMT
#41
God damn it I overslept but glad Life won!
~ T-ARA ~ DREAMCATCHER ~ EVERGLOW ~ OH MY GIRL ~ DIA ~ BOL4 ~ CHUNGHA ~
Dwayn
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany949 Posts
October 20 2012 12:34 GMT
#42
Was kind of boring. I hate BLs, such a stupid unit design, but it's what you need to win. Life played better and deserves it .
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
October 20 2012 12:34 GMT
#43
Yea!!! So extremely happy.
Congrats Life! You deserve it
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 12:47:31
October 20 2012 12:47 GMT
#44
I've not been this happy for a player ever, and the whole Royal Road thing makes it even sweeter. Mvp played great too, however - truly a beastly performance, as well.
AdministratorBreak the chains
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
October 20 2012 12:49 GMT
#45
On October 20 2012 20:08 ManicMarine wrote:
That was one of the silliest Bo7s I've seen in a long time. It wasn't terrible like Inca vs Nestea, but it was so boring that MVP went 1 rax expo, then 2fact bf hellion into mech or 1/1/1 into mech every single game. Every game MVP lost was for the same reason, and every game he won he was able to kill a bunch of drones early. Was so hyped for this finals, pretty disappointed. I miss marines


On October 20 2012 21:34 Dwayn wrote:
Was kind of boring. I hate BLs, such a stupid unit design, but it's what you need to win. Life played better and deserves it .

Absolutely agree with these. MvP hardly showed any of the brilliant flexibility him and his race are known for. His defence was also so solid that it made Life's exciting lingbling composition useless, forcing him to go for 3 of the most boring units: Infestors, roaches and broodlords.

I will remember this finals for this: I started off wanting Life to win because of the Royal Road, his young age and for no more KongTale (my fave team). However, As the series progressed I began wanting MVP to win, just because of how retarded Infestor-broodlord is, both entertainment-wise and balance-wise.

Conclusion: Not a very entertaining finals due to the army compositions used by both sides. Happy for Life, but man, zerg's "win-composition" has to be the most boring yet. I hate broodlords so, so, so very much.
blacksheepwall
Profile Joined June 2011
China1530 Posts
October 20 2012 12:51 GMT
#46
Only got to catch the first two games live, but they were both excellent. Sounds like both players played mostly standard throughout the series.

Really happy for Life.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
heaveshade
Profile Joined March 2011
China330 Posts
October 20 2012 12:55 GMT
#47
I am so sad for mvp, it looked like he's got it. I still can not believe this.
Sakray
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
France2198 Posts
October 20 2012 13:04 GMT
#48
I'm glad MVP Lost, I was bored to see all the "meh I feel so bad, neck and wrists, probably retire etc" while he was rolling over everyone :/
Jerseyghost
Profile Joined May 2011
2 Posts
October 20 2012 13:04 GMT
#49
Congrats to Life and especially Mvp who played real great games in my opinion. I dunno why, but i kinda feel like Life did more mistakes and still won the series. At my level I definately can't say the game is imbalanced though I hope there is a new balance discussion coming up.
Admirage
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany2 Posts
October 20 2012 13:05 GMT
#50
I hoped for MVP to win, well whatever. Although the matches were rather unimpressive congratulations to Life for accomplishing a royal run.
Thor is here
Microsloth
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada194 Posts
October 20 2012 13:05 GMT
#51
Gratz to life! Also, I feel bad for blizzard... not only are they tasked with balancing SC2 (not an easy task), but apparently they should be making units "exciting" as well.

Would brood lords be more exciting if they fired tank shells instead? Just make them a guardian? Or maybe if they spewed out my little ponies or something.

Seriously. I can totally understand wanting a balanced game, but to complain that a unit "isn't exciting enough" is pretty lame imo.

Thors are just a boring, only their attacks "explode" so people like them more for some reason?? bleh....

Awesome to see a 15 year old champ, again, congratz to Life!
Double digit APM. ftw?
Cheno
Profile Joined September 2011
Denmark70 Posts
October 20 2012 13:08 GMT
#52
So sad....
Information is power!
Psychobabas
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
2531 Posts
October 20 2012 13:13 GMT
#53
Bad finals and bad matchup.
Microsloth
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada194 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 13:18:39
October 20 2012 13:18 GMT
#54
On October 20 2012 22:13 Psychobabas wrote:
Bad finals and bad matchup.


That's amazingly insulting to both the players and the tourney itself. 7 game series went 4-3,

I'm flabergasted, like... what more do you people want?? lol
Double digit APM. ftw?
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
October 20 2012 13:22 GMT
#55
On October 20 2012 22:05 Microsloth wrote:
Gratz to life! Also, I feel bad for blizzard... not only are they tasked with balancing SC2 (not an easy task), but apparently they should be making units "exciting" as well.

Would brood lords be more exciting if they fired tank shells instead? Just make them a guardian? Or maybe if they spewed out my little ponies or something.

Seriously. I can totally understand wanting a balanced game, but to complain that a unit "isn't exciting enough" is pretty lame imo.

Thors are just a boring, only their attacks "explode" so people like them more for some reason?? bleh....

Awesome to see a 15 year old champ, again, congratz to Life!

Broodlords don't only launch projectiles, they launch little 0 food, 0 cost units that dish out massive damage in numbers, get upgrades, restrict movement, and come in droves. Combined with infestors, who ALSO have an AOE spell for restricting movement, and what do you get? An army that you can't even micro against. Yipee. This promotes deathball vs deathball. It's not only not exciting, it's downright boring and retarded, also frustrating to fight against.
StreetWise
Profile Joined January 2010
United States594 Posts
October 20 2012 13:26 GMT
#56
Just wait till life gets his hands on the swarm host. If he gets that combo he will be unstoppable.
I will not be poisoned by your bitterness
Atrbyg
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States513 Posts
October 20 2012 13:29 GMT
#57
Congrats to Life.
Microsloth
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada194 Posts
October 20 2012 13:39 GMT
#58
On October 20 2012 22:22 xAdra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 22:05 Microsloth wrote:
Gratz to life! Also, I feel bad for blizzard... not only are they tasked with balancing SC2 (not an easy task), but apparently they should be making units "exciting" as well.

Would brood lords be more exciting if they fired tank shells instead? Just make them a guardian? Or maybe if they spewed out my little ponies or something.

Seriously. I can totally understand wanting a balanced game, but to complain that a unit "isn't exciting enough" is pretty lame imo.

Thors are just a boring, only their attacks "explode" so people like them more for some reason?? bleh....

Awesome to see a 15 year old champ, again, congratz to Life!

Broodlords don't only launch projectiles, they launch little 0 food, 0 cost units that dish out massive damage in numbers, get upgrades, restrict movement, and come in droves. Combined with infestors, who ALSO have an AOE spell for restricting movement, and what do you get? An army that you can't even micro against. Yipee. This promotes deathball vs deathball. It's not only not exciting, it's downright boring and retarded, also frustrating to fight against.


Thanks for assuming I didn't know how the units function.

Also, I wish there was more "adapt and overcome" instead of "cry for balance".
Double digit APM. ftw?
pimsc2
Profile Joined January 2012
France73 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 13:40:45
October 20 2012 13:40 GMT
#59
This was a terrible final… We really see how zergs mindset is right now. No micro, no agressive play, just pure boring & passive defensive macro style into even more boring & passive broodlord infestors deathballs… And it works, even if you make more mistakes than your opponent. Thanks David Kim for your great work. I'm gonna watch older GSL games, they were a lot more entertaining back then, and more rewarding for the great players like the Mvp.
Azriel
Profile Joined December 2010
Mexico462 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 13:46:35
October 20 2012 13:41 GMT
#60
On October 20 2012 22:22 xAdra wrote:
Broodlords don't only launch projectiles, they launch little 0 food, 0 cost units that dish out massive damage in numbers, get upgrades, restrict movement, and come in droves. Combined with infestors, who ALSO have an AOE spell for restricting movement, and what do you get? An army that you can't even micro against. Yipee. This promotes deathball vs deathball. It's not only not exciting, it's downright boring and retarded, also frustrating to fight against.

Hey don't diss the broodlords. They are a massive improvement over the Brood War guardian (this coming from somebody who prefers BW to SC2, by the way). I'd say the blame falls on the Infestor and its overpowered, gimmicky spells.
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