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[Code S] Ro16 Group D Preview/Group A Recap (S4)

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September 19th, 2012 21:18 GMT
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Code S Ro16: Group A Recap


By: Porcelina

Results from Live Report Thread by opterown. Front page image by KingxXx/GomTV.
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +

DongRaeGu vs. Polt
(Z)DongRaeGu <Daybreak> (T)Polt
(Z)DongRaeGu <Cloud Kingdom> (T)Polt
(Z)DongRaeGu <Antiga Shipyard> (T)Polt

(T)Polt wins 2-1!

By.Rain vs. TaeJa
(P)By.Rain <Cloud Kingdom> (T)TaeJa
(P)By.Rain <Antiga Shipyard> (T)TaeJa
(P)By.Rain <> (T)TaeJa

(P)By.Rain wins 2-0!

Winners' Match
(T)Polt <Whirlwind> (P)By.Rain
(T)Polt <Antiga Shipyard> (P)By.Rain
(T)Polt <Daybreak> (P)By.Rain

(P)By.Rain wins 2-1!

Losers' Match
(Z)DongRaeGu <Whirlwind> (T)TaeJa
(Z)DongRaeGu <Cloud Kingdom> (T)TaeJa
(Z)DongRaeGu <Antiga Shipyard> (T)TaeJa

(T)TaeJa wins 2-1!

Final Match
(T)Polt <Antiga Shipyard> (T)TaeJa
(T)Polt <Daybreak> (T)TaeJa
(T)Polt <> (T)TaeJa

(T)TaeJa wins 2-0!



(P)By.Rain and (T)TaeJa advance to Code S RO8!


A Change in the Weather
– (P)SKT_Rain advances from Group A in first place, defeating (T)Liquid`TaeJa and (T)TSL_Polt


Sometimes, old proverbs are apt to describe the most modern of sports. In last night's Code S matches, it was a case of 'cometh the hour, cometh the man.' (P)SKT_Rain, rising to prominence with his streak of PvZ victories in WCS Korea, came to show everyone that his PvT was no lesser a force. Put simply, he faced two of the best TvP players in the world, and beat both of them handily to finish first in his group. Rain is no longer merely the best KeSPA player. He is a championship contender.

Picking (T)Liquid`TaeJa during group nominations might have looked silly at face value. However, for Rain the range of selections was narrow, and in hindsight, it's easy to understand why the KeSPA player had such confidence in his TvP. His first two games were a tour de force of how to beat a top player in PvT.

Rain never took big risks, insisting on over-producing observers to create an impenetrable drop defense while he teched up behind it. Cloud Kingdom and Antiga Shipyard can be tricky maps on which to hold off a Terran trying to stretch the Protoss defenses, but liberal use of cannons, templars and observers kept Rain safe from harassment that could have put him behind. While Terran's harassment was shut down entirely, Rain was devilish in his own torment of the Terran economy. Constant storm drops and zealot warp-ins meant that TaeJa never had the economic backbone to stand up to Rain in the late game.

Against (T)TSL_Polt in the winners match, Rain showed another side of his PvT, denying Polt's scout and punishing the TSL player with a 4-gate on Whirlwind. On Antiga, Polt was able to hand Rain his only defeat of the night, taking the lead with a four medivac doom-drop and starving Rain to death in a long game. Facing off on Daybreak to see who would advance in first place, Rain pulled out a three nexus build and won with the same commitment to harassment brought TaeJa to his knees.

There are a few things that really stand out about Rain so far. The first match against Taeja was very Seed’esque, avoiding confrontations and harassing the Terran to death. His play against Polt was more reminiscent of Parting, with a fast double expand and a glut of storms. Of course, having similarities to Seed and Parting is far from a bad thing. Overall, his builds showed diversity, with a propensity to both play to the map and the player. However, his style is becoming quite clear; in a straight up game his plan will be to safely expand and simply run the Terran down slowly by attacking the economy, rather than trying to crush the army in a decisive engagement.

Incidentally, that is also how he played out his PvZs in WCS Korea. Patience, stellar defense and high activity through contesting mid map control and harassing are elements that define him as a player – and they were the highlights of his play in the group.

– (T)Liquid`TaeJa repeats his usual loss-win-win pattern to advance in second place.

In the last three seasons of GSL, (T)TaeJa has not only made the round of eight three consecutive times, he has also shown his resilience in an intriguing way. Three times before, he has advanced from his group after losing his first match, and he made it four times on Tuesday night.

In terms of his games, Taeja did not look quite as good as we have come to expect of him lately. Of course, it was impossible that he would look invincible forever. Taeja was given a master class in how his standard TvP can be defeated by Rain. The games were not lopsided, but Rain only looked really threatened when he made unforced errors. An unusual sight, as we've seen a substantial number of games where Taeja has been able to bend his opponents to his will rather than have to wait for hand outs.

The shakiness continued against (Z)MVPDongRaeGu in the losers match. Once again, it would be foolish to say that Taeja did not play some fantastic StarCraft II, but the feeling of something not being quite right lingered. Ultimately, he proved to be the MVP Zerg’s superior on the day through straight up play. While he lost the second game after his double barracks play failed to do much at all, all-in-all Taeja looked comfortable in making DRG's mass muta-bane-ling play look obsolete.

In the final match of the day, the TaeJa rebound came complete. Having looked outplayed and lacking ideas versus Rain, better but still not at his best against DRG, he showed brilliant and commanding marine/tank play against Polt. Once again, shrewd drops and beautiful positional play was combined with slick mechanics to put Taeja through to the final eight.

The best way I can describe Taeja’s play overall would be ‘muted’. Perhaps nerves still a play a factor, perhaps it was some recent losses to all-ins that made him feel the need to play more conservatively. At the very least, he seemed more averse to taking risks, toning down his iconic, flamboyant, bulldozer style just a little.

– The departed two

For (T)Polt, this group always looked to be difficult. When Taeja looks like your easiest opponent on paper, you know you are in for a rough ride. Polt did impress, defeating (Z)DRG and taking the only game off Rain in the group. It would probably not have been unjust to see him advance over Rain altogether, as his losses were pretty marginal in the sense that a lot came down to maps and builds. With some more luck in either department, Polt could have advanced to the round of eight for the first time in over a year while looking impressive.

The last player of the group, DongRaeGu, still is a bit of a mystery. I think a fairly common sentiment would be that he is somehow much better than what both results and gameplay indicate. Today, he was almost taken aback by Polt’s play, not punishing him for an incredibly early third in the first game and falling to a marauder/hellion all-in in the third. Against Taeja he looked outclassed. His mechanics seem unchanged from when he was the best Zerg in the world; it was his decision making that fails him.

DRG insisted on playing a prolonged lair phase with mutalisk/ling/bling – a strategy that often seems brilliant when it works, hopeless when it does not. That particular trait is mirrored in DRG as a player at the moment. However, he still has the round of eight in the OSL to look forward to. Not as good as getting there in both tournaments, but to do that, you would have to be...about as good as Rain at least.

– Rating the spells of the day

Psionic storm: Magnificent, thunderous! 10/10
EMP: A slow day, sometimes hitting, but too often underwhelming. 6/10
Fungal growth: Infestors were on strike. No scabs allowed. Not rated.

Code S Ro16: Group D Preview


By: stuchiu
Group D will be played first, while groups B and C will be played next week.

Group D: (P)LG-IM_Seed, (Z)TSL_Symbol, (T)LG-IM_Happy, (Z)ST_Life


(P)LG-IM_Seed vs. (Z)TSL_Symbol

There is something truly terrifying about a player who can ask 12 of the top players in the world if they would like to play him, and get no answer. For Seed, that's exactly what happened to him at the Ro16 group selections. Seed is now standing at the top of the mountain, and he has never looked better in his career. He won the last GSL. He defeated Taeja and HerO to win IPL TAC3 for LG-IM. He'll be on his way to WCS Asia to represent Korea. More recently, he was able to ignore the champion's curse and get to the round of 16 of Code S by defeating Suhosin and Parting (who had stopped his run in WCS Korea). 

Seed is easily top 5 in the world in every one of his matchups, but the scariest thing about him is that the higher the pressure, the worse the situation, the better he performs. He was on the verge of getting eliminated multiple times last season against both Symbol and Byun, but he made it back through sheer force of will. Strangely enough, the players Seed beats seem to have their own will crushed in return, never looking quite as strong afterward. Symbol admitted as much at the group selections, saying he couldn't even really play StarCraft for a month after he was eliminated by Seed in last season's quarter-finals. With this in mind, Seed believes he has found the answer to making it to another GSL Finals. That is to destroy Symbol’s soul for a second time.

About two months ago, Symbol looked as strong as Seed did now. Symbol had no weak matchups.  He looked extraordinarily strong in his Ro32 matches and escaped from that season's Ro16 group of death with impressive games. Then he became the first victim of the Leech Seed. After giving up a 2 - 0 lead to Symbol, Seed went into his clutch mode and won the next three games and destroyed Symbol’s will. Symbol then went on a downward spiral of despair as he collapsed in all other Korean leagues as well. Now 2 months later, Symbol has come back out of his funk and is once more climbing the steps to the GSL championship. Unfortunately for him Seed, has chosen him as a sacrifice and plans to re-enact their last GSL meeting. There is one crucial difference between this match and their last match. This time Symbol will be motivated by two of the strongest of human emotions, spite and revenge.

(T)LG-IM_Happy vs. (Z)ST_Life

If Symbol can't succeed at exacting revenge, at least he'll have spite to fall back on. After getting selected by Seed, Symbol made sure he would have a back-up plan in the case of defeat by choosing Happy creating the possibility of a painful team-kill for Seed. Happy was probably upset with this, but I couldn’t really tell as his emotions never change. Happy’s chances in this group might be better than they initially seem, as there are two Zerg opponents in this group, and Happy's best match-up is TvZ at a 70 percent win rate. However, most of that record was built up during the Terran dominated year of 2011, and he's only had a mediocre record since. If he can avoid Seed in an elimination match – which is entirely possible considering how good Seed is – then Happy might have a shot at escaping this group.

Every GSL season the group nominations give some insight into what the players think about the skills of the other players.  Generally, the last chosen player is the most in form player at the time. This GSL, the last player chosen was Life. Life is the craziest Zerg player in the world, capable of doing just about anything. He can beat top players in straight macro games when he wants, but he can also beat them with a variety of completely unorthodox strategies as well. From triple hatch before pool, 1 base mutas, roach hydra attacks against Terran, mid game muta switches, slow ling-bane busts, the entire Zerg playbook is open to Life. This makes him an extremely dangerous player and one that cannot be prepared for easily. With that in mind, the fact that Group D was bumped up a week plays into Life’s favor as he won't need much time to dissect the standard play of his opponents, while they will be hard pressed to cover all of Life's many possibilities.

Winners Match and Onwards

Seed should be the overall favorite in the group. He has the best PvZ in the world and is his PvT is top five. Despite Symbol’s thirst for revenge, Seed’s PvZ has only improved since their last meeting, while Symbol has just regained his form from two months ago. Despite Happy's good TvP showings in the Ro32 he shouldn't be much of a problem either. Seed has recently stated he has gained a lot of confidence in PvT, and he's backed it up with great wins over players like Jjakji and TaeJa.

While the other three players in this group are similar in skill, Life should be favored as he has an insane ZvZ win rate of 70 percent, the one match-up where he just plays a straight up style. His ZvP style is his strangest, so it’s hard to predict what would happen if he played Seed. His ZvT falls somewhere in between, though he tends to lean towards macro styles in ZvT unless he has reason to fear the player.

Happy will be the underdog in the group, but not by much.  He defeated both Rain and Genius in Ro32, showing hugely improved TvP since his last foray into Code S. Happy’s ZvT is what made him famous in the first place, but it remains to be seen how it's held up over time, especially in the queen-patch era.

Finally, this is Symbol’s chance for revenge. He already got some satisfaction by knocking down Yoda twice to get to the Ro16. This time Symbol will be going after Seed and Happy at the same time.  In group nominations he said his desired result was both LG-IM players being knocked out and him and Life moving on.  Even if he can’t knock down both LG-IM players, Symbol will still get some satisfaction by ensuring at least one of them will be eliminated, as long as he himself advances. Symbol played an incredibly close series last time against Seed, so he will have a good a shot as any Zerg player against the defending champion.  He has an even better shot against Happy as ZvT has always been Symbol’s specialty. Life will prove a problem for Symbol, but he has the best practice partners anyone could ask for in TSL (The Swarm Life).  

This could be a very important night for Seed and Symbol. Their last series contained many exciting games with a lot of tense moments. Tonight, there will be the added spark of bad blood. Whether Symbol takes his revenge, or has his soul taken for a second time, this could lead to one of the best rivalries we've seen.

Seed > Symbol
Life > Happy
Seed > Life
Symbol > Happy
Life > Symbol

Seed and Life advance.




Writers: Porcelina and stuchiu
Graphics and Art: Meko.
Editors: Waxangel.
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United States403 Posts
September 19 2012 21:24 GMT
#2
Great write up, thanks!!

I wonder how Seed - Symbol will go o.o
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dragoon
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United States695 Posts
September 19 2012 21:26 GMT
#3
holy shit didn't expect all of this.

rain royal road? :D
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Profile Joined March 2012
United States770 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-19 21:28:46
September 19 2012 21:28 GMT
#4
Good predictions
Also, surpise to see DRG fall so quickly.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Austria2609 Posts
September 19 2012 21:32 GMT
#5
I think a better headline would have been "raining doom" as those storm drops were impressing.
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LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
September 19 2012 21:38 GMT
#6
I have to agree with the predictions. Seed looks to have the best shot to advance first, and while I think that Symbol is slightly better overall than Life, if they meet in an elimination match, my money's on Life's ZvZ. Happy is somewhat of a dark horse.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
September 19 2012 21:40 GMT
#7
Nice writeup, Rain sure as hell brought the hammer today, one of the biggest beatdowns I've seen in a long time.

Tomorrow... I want 3 ppl to advance ;_;
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
September 19 2012 21:40 GMT
#8
REALLY looking forward to Group D!
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United Kingdom4569 Posts
September 19 2012 21:51 GMT
#9
awesome write up, so sad that i will miss these
will check the vods immediately when i get home
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Canada7089 Posts
September 19 2012 21:54 GMT
#10
Like every group this season I want all four players to make it to ro8 ah well, as long as one of the underdogs comes through I'll be happy.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United Kingdom1419 Posts
September 19 2012 22:07 GMT
#11
Yep good predictions. 100% agree.
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3 Posts
September 19 2012 22:08 GMT
#12
Well done Rain!
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112 Posts
September 19 2012 22:08 GMT
#13
rain taking this whole thing.
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England165 Posts
September 19 2012 22:16 GMT
#14
"The Leech Seed"- haha that's actually the perfect way to describe him lol
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United Kingdom4845 Posts
September 19 2012 22:34 GMT
#15
I agree with those predictions, here's hoping we get a day like yesterday's Code S group.
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United States93 Posts
September 19 2012 22:48 GMT
#16
Rain you beautiful machine of a man, well done!
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Profile Joined February 2011
United States513 Posts
September 19 2012 22:48 GMT
#17
How much longer does DRG have to slump until he's the second (or third, I guess) coming of Zergbong? Poor DRG.. He used to be so dominating too. Maybe his overconfidence was his downfall.
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Profile Joined June 2012
Canada16 Posts
September 19 2012 22:51 GMT
#18
I'm sad that DRG didnt make it through, but on the bright side Rain looked incredible so who knows... we may be in for a great GSL season.
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Germany165 Posts
September 19 2012 22:53 GMT
#19
I totally go with Life.
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United States691 Posts
September 19 2012 23:20 GMT
#20
good write up. I totally agree with the predictions
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Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13990 Posts
September 19 2012 23:33 GMT
#21
Seed<Symbol
Life>Happy
Symbol<Life
Seed>Happy
Seed>Symbol
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Profile Joined August 2011
United States689 Posts
September 19 2012 23:44 GMT
#22
You know what they say.... Once a honey is always a honey.

Wait, did anyone actually say that ever?
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Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
September 19 2012 23:56 GMT
#23
Go Life! I hope you've got this!
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Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom622 Posts
September 20 2012 00:14 GMT
#24
Great write up, would be nice to see Happy advance as the Terran talent pool is looking thing... I'm not counting on it though.

In other news, whilst Rain looked awesome, I can see the elephant hype train coming! Will be interesting to see how well he does now he's had more exposure; I'm expecting him to be 'figured out'. His games were passive with harrassment -> something which will be exploited. A Taeja v Rain final I would expect to go Taeja's way.
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United States97276 Posts
September 20 2012 00:24 GMT
#25
Predictions are the same as mine. Thanks for the write up
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Mexico67 Posts
September 20 2012 00:29 GMT
#26
I know everyone hates PvP, but I would love to see Rain vs Seed in the next round or possibly in the finals! Solid predicitons.
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Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
September 20 2012 01:08 GMT
#27
seed, life what positive, affirming names tonight lol
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Profile Joined April 2012
United States89 Posts
September 20 2012 01:11 GMT
#28
I predict Seed and Life...
but want Happy and Life!
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Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States113 Posts
September 20 2012 02:17 GMT
#29
Let's go life!
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Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States8486 Posts
September 20 2012 02:26 GMT
#30
Taeja played at like 60% strength against Rain or something, he was so off with some things and his ghost control was horrific. Of course Rain played well but Taeja certainly didn't help himself at all. Sucks that Polt had to go out after some great games too.

Hopefully atleast 1 zerg gets out of this group, don't want RO8 to seem too skewed or else people will start crying despite the balance of the first 2 rounds.
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Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
September 20 2012 02:26 GMT
#31
So Happy will advance It's just how it works, the more underdog he is the better he seems to play. Ones he's out of this group he will proberly drop out for there is no where to hide.
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Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
September 20 2012 02:49 GMT
#32
Group D is rather lackluster to say the least. Seed should take it with relative easy, I doubt I'll watch if I'm up.
FoTG fighting!
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Australia8759 Posts
September 20 2012 02:51 GMT
#33
I predict Seed and whoever's powers are not drained by Seed.
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Profile Blog Joined March 2012
Japan2474 Posts
September 20 2012 02:54 GMT
#34
The predictions seem right for once lol. Hopefully I'm not wrong this time

GOGO TAEJA AND LIFE
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1519 Posts
September 20 2012 03:14 GMT
#35
uh oh rain the kespa elephant gonna go on a rampage?!?!??!
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Profile Joined August 2012
Germany347 Posts
September 20 2012 03:15 GMT
#36
predictions are very reasonable. I'll go with symbol and life on this one though
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Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States2847 Posts
September 20 2012 03:38 GMT
#37
Lolwut? Totally didn't see that one. Great job, Rain! Elephant fighting!!

Think Symbol's still got this; Seed and Symbol to Round of 8.
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Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
September 20 2012 03:40 GMT
#38
Seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed! I want another GSL title out of you. I want another LG-IM legend. Do it.

And put Symbol down on the way.
Long live the King of Wings
Cipher32
Profile Joined April 2011
United States52 Posts
September 20 2012 03:53 GMT
#39
Rain is looking just as dominating as Symbol did early on last season. Lets hope Rain continues to impress and takes this tournament all the way home!
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Profile Joined July 2010
Australia1071 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-20 04:14:57
September 20 2012 04:13 GMT
#40
On September 20 2012 07:48 Dakure wrote:
How much longer does DRG have to slump until he's the second (or third, I guess) coming of Zergbong? Poor DRG.. He used to be so dominating too. Maybe his overconfidence was his downfall.


Don't think getting knocked out in a group of death means hes still in a slump...he lost 2-1 in both series including a tough all-in vs polt in game 3.

Go Symbol get that revenge!! hope he and Life advance
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Profile Joined January 2012
Canada910 Posts
September 20 2012 04:28 GMT
#41
New Boss Toss in the house Seed ! (your ok to rain)
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China1530 Posts
September 20 2012 04:46 GMT
#42
I, too, would have summarized Taeja's play as muted. But I don't think he played perfectly against Polt, either. Well, at least not as perfect as he usually plays. He made a few goofy errors, but they were all minor and he did manage to take the games handily.

Looking forward to tonight's games. Big fan of both Symbol and Life so if either advances I'll be pleased.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻ // </3 Taeja
Xivsa
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1009 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-20 05:07:26
September 20 2012 05:05 GMT
#43
On September 20 2012 06:18 Porcelina wrote:

– Rating the spells of the day

Psionic storm: Magnificent, thunderous! 10/10
EMP: A slow day, sometimes hitting, but too often underwhelming. 6/10
Fungal growth: Infestors were on strike. No scabs allowed. Not rated.



Nice article, and I liked this touch. Will it be seen in future reports I wonder?
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve. - Bilbo
Gihi
Profile Joined September 2011
384 Posts
September 20 2012 05:23 GMT
#44
I think Taeja played really well against Rain, as he always does TvP. He just got "outplayed" because he wasn't able to engage, nor defend the drop play.
I thought of Rain as lucky in his WCS & Ro32 games. Now I think of him as the rightful champion of this GSL!
Too bad Polt and DRG got eliminated... Too many awesome players in the Ro16, we used to only have a couple stars ^^
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
September 20 2012 06:24 GMT
#45
What if DRG is not slumping but everyone else just got better? :s

Anyhow, if Symbol manages to beat the prince of darkness, He should be able to beat the next player too. Seed should then have no problem advancing. The craziest thing would be Seed losing a rematch against Symbol. That probably won't happen.
maru G5L pls
Pocky52
Profile Joined November 2011
United States463 Posts
September 20 2012 06:33 GMT
#46
would like to see Life and Symbol advance, but we'll see what happens...
Greenei
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany1754 Posts
September 20 2012 07:17 GMT
#47
Seed > Symbol
Happy > Life
Seed > Happy
Life > Symbol
Happy > Life
IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
September 20 2012 07:53 GMT
#48
On September 20 2012 13:46 blacksheepwall wrote:
I, too, would have summarized Taeja's play as muted. But I don't think he played perfectly against Polt, either. Well, at least not as perfect as he usually plays. He made a few goofy errors, but they were all minor and he did manage to take the games handily.

Looking forward to tonight's games. Big fan of both Symbol and Life so if either advances I'll be pleased.



Rain beat Taeja because he was un-prepared for Rain's storm drops/zealot warp ins, and he refused to put up bunkers or turrets, one flaw of Taeja but all he has to do next time is just be prepared against this for every Protoss he faces and he'll be fine.
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Kontys
Profile Joined October 2011
Finland659 Posts
September 20 2012 07:54 GMT
#49
Rain showing off that Protoss should and will win the next n championships until HOTS is released.
twsx
Profile Joined March 2012
Switzerland29 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-20 08:45:12
September 20 2012 08:44 GMT
#50
Blasphemy! Symbol will make it!

Meh, I was just so impressed with the couple of weeks where Symbol was so awesome, I basically became a little school girl that just saw Justin Bieber.

Too bad it was just a couple of weeks until his performances dropped a little again. Let's see what happens.

Seed and Symbol for me, please.
Say what?
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
September 20 2012 08:47 GMT
#51
On September 20 2012 16:53 NovemberstOrm wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 13:46 blacksheepwall wrote:
I, too, would have summarized Taeja's play as muted. But I don't think he played perfectly against Polt, either. Well, at least not as perfect as he usually plays. He made a few goofy errors, but they were all minor and he did manage to take the games handily.

Looking forward to tonight's games. Big fan of both Symbol and Life so if either advances I'll be pleased.



Rain beat Taeja because he was un-prepared for Rain's storm drops/zealot warp ins, and he refused to put up bunkers or turrets, one flaw of Taeja but all he has to do next time is just be prepared against this for every Protoss he faces and he'll be fine.


It's one of these situations where if you say one player played badly, people will go "Nah you just dislike the other player, give him credit where credit is due", but I too think TaeJa played badly. I might be wrong, but I feel like usually when skill is as even as it is in Code S, with a few outliers, then a lot of it comes down to condition on a specific day or period. Consistency over time is what makes you one of the incredible outliers, otherwise you will have ups and downs (No pun intended). For that reason, I personally would never dare to think a person is going to take a tournament based on the performance he had in a couple of individual Bo3 series, and that isn't directed at Rain, that's what I always think in these two group rounds. :p

kugel
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany116 Posts
September 20 2012 09:39 GMT
#52
rain looked so deadly ...
aqbabaq
Profile Joined August 2012
Sweden65 Posts
September 20 2012 10:15 GMT
#53
rain <3 new hope !!!
CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
September 20 2012 12:40 GMT
#54
Life looking like a legitimate royal road contender.
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
trada
Profile Joined August 2012
Germany347 Posts
September 20 2012 14:38 GMT
#55
On September 20 2012 12:15 trada wrote:
predictions are very reasonable. I'll go with symbol and life on this one though



called it
~
neoghaleon55
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7435 Posts
September 20 2012 15:42 GMT
#56
spite and vengence win again!
moo...for DRG
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
September 20 2012 17:25 GMT
#57
I'm so dumb, I should never underestimate spite and vengeance.
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DreamTheaterFan
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada52 Posts
September 20 2012 18:10 GMT
#58
Symbol must be feeling so great right now, it's like the exact same scenario as last season, except Seed and him switched roles.
Interstellar
Profile Joined May 2012
Mexico67 Posts
September 20 2012 18:59 GMT
#59
I'm a bid Seed fan, but Symbol played like a BOSS. Got his revenge from last season. Good stuff!!
El que es chingon, es chingon.
sinigang
Profile Joined August 2012
360 Posts
September 22 2012 03:34 GMT
#60
On September 20 2012 17:47 Kasaraki wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2012 16:53 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On September 20 2012 13:46 blacksheepwall wrote:
I, too, would have summarized Taeja's play as muted. But I don't think he played perfectly against Polt, either. Well, at least not as perfect as he usually plays. He made a few goofy errors, but they were all minor and he did manage to take the games handily.

Looking forward to tonight's games. Big fan of both Symbol and Life so if either advances I'll be pleased.



Rain beat Taeja because he was un-prepared for Rain's storm drops/zealot warp ins, and he refused to put up bunkers or turrets, one flaw of Taeja but all he has to do next time is just be prepared against this for every Protoss he faces and he'll be fine.


It's one of these situations where if you say one player played badly, people will go "Nah you just dislike the other player, give him credit where credit is due", but I too think TaeJa played badly. I might be wrong, but I feel like usually when skill is as even as it is in Code S, with a few outliers, then a lot of it comes down to condition on a specific day or period. Consistency over time is what makes you one of the incredible outliers, otherwise you will have ups and downs (No pun intended). For that reason, I personally would never dare to think a person is going to take a tournament based on the performance he had in a couple of individual Bo3 series, and that isn't directed at Rain, that's what I always think in these two group rounds. :p



Or maybe KeSPA players are really just too good. Better practice habits, more disciplined, etc. Can't wait till the next GSL when most of the KeSPA pros would have caught up.
oneill12
Profile Joined February 2012
Romania1222 Posts
September 22 2012 21:28 GMT
#61
Taeja so gooooood!
wushu
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9 Posts
September 24 2012 06:41 GMT
#62
en taro rain!
ArtOfStyLe
Profile Joined September 2012
Germany51 Posts
September 24 2012 11:49 GMT
#63
I think Life or TaeJa will win this GSL since they are in such a great shape GO TAEJA!
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