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TommyP
Profile Joined December 2011
United States6231 Posts
September 09 2012 22:29 GMT
#61
TBH id be more surprised if Mvp makes it out than I would be if MaNa makes it out. I think Mvp will go 0-2 0-2, but maybe he will look like the Mvp of last year who knows.
#TheOneTrueDong
Entirety
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
1423 Posts
September 09 2012 22:30 GMT
#62
On September 10 2012 07:21 InoyouS2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 06:56 Entirety wrote:
People say TaeJa's form is the best ever seen because he seems to have no weak match-ups. This beats out Mvp's peak form, which had weaker TvP, and Mvp's peak form beats everything else.


Who says this?

At Mvp's peak there were little to no Protoss players in the GSL, all Terrans and Zergs for the mostpart.

Nobody is saying this except you, so please stop suggesting it's the opinion of the majority.


Sorry, I never meant to imply that it was the opinion of the majority. I never even said it's my opinion... it's not my opinion. These are things that I have heard other people say.

Just because there were no Protoss in the GSL doesn't make it absolutely irrelevant that his TvP was weak.

Also, if you would read the sentence AFTER the one you quoted, you would realize that I actually do think that Mvp's peak form has been unsurpassed. You'd be surprised at how many people (NOT ME) say that TaeJa is the absolute best there ever was, and he's certainly on the road to proving this (but he's not there yet IN MY OPINION). Hopefully this clears up some confusion?
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patronage
Profile Joined October 2011
Iraq123 Posts
September 09 2012 22:36 GMT
#63
my prediction is MMA and MVP
InoyouS2
Profile Joined December 2011
1005 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-09 22:37:51
September 09 2012 22:36 GMT
#64
On September 10 2012 07:30 Entirety wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 10 2012 07:21 InoyouS2 wrote:
On September 10 2012 06:56 Entirety wrote:
People say TaeJa's form is the best ever seen because he seems to have no weak match-ups. This beats out Mvp's peak form, which had weaker TvP, and Mvp's peak form beats everything else.


Who says this?

At Mvp's peak there were little to no Protoss players in the GSL, all Terrans and Zergs for the mostpart.

Nobody is saying this except you, so please stop suggesting it's the opinion of the majority.


Sorry, I never meant to imply that it was the opinion of the majority. I never even said it's my opinion... it's not my opinion. These are things that I have heard other people say.

Just because there were no Protoss in the GSL doesn't make it absolutely irrelevant that his TvP was weak.

Also, if you would read the sentence AFTER the one you quoted, you would realize that I actually do think that Mvp's peak form has been unsurpassed. You'd be surprised at how many people (NOT ME) say that TaeJa is the absolute best there ever was, and he's certainly on the road to proving this (but he's not there yet IN MY OPINION). Hopefully this clears up some confusion?


That seems a little hard to believe, TaeJa hasn't even been dominant for that long, he just seems like a solid all-round player to me (in mid-late 2011 he was great at TvZ and TvP, but was a little lacklustre in TvT).

In terms of form TaeJa perhaps looks like MarineKing and DongRaeGu when they broke out earlier this year, each peaking at MLG's before slumping slightly. So far the longest and highest peak in terms of performance and form has been by Mvp.

Not to say that TaeJa may not be on his way to beating that peak, but he isn't there yet.

EDIT: TaeJa is definitely considered the best performing player in the world at this moment though.
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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
September 09 2012 22:37 GMT
#65
I think Taeja has a really good shot.

Poor Mana though...what an insane group ._.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
Crownlol
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3726 Posts
September 09 2012 22:40 GMT
#66
I can see MaNa beating MMA, but I can't see Taeja not making it out of the group. Taeja can beat MMA and MVP
shaGuar :: elemeNt :: XeqtR :: naikon :: method
CrazyBirdman
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany3509 Posts
September 09 2012 22:41 GMT
#67
I want all of them to advance.
I am hoping for MaNa and TaeJa though but we'll see.
rkshox
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Taiwan536 Posts
September 09 2012 22:41 GMT
#68
nothing to do tomorrow..there's almost nothing stopping me from waking up to watch this series holy god it's goign to be epic
@ranleee /// "first we expand, then we defense it'
SHOOG
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States1639 Posts
September 09 2012 22:43 GMT
#69
I'm going to go against all odds and vote for Mana!
But I would be satisfied with either MMA, and Taeja advancing!
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
September 09 2012 22:43 GMT
#70
On September 10 2012 06:23 Entirety wrote:
You know, this is a perfect opportunity for Mvp to bomb out. His form hasn't been near his peak yet, while TaeJa's form is the best it has ever been... some may say TaeJa's form is the best that ANYONE's form has ever been. MMA, who has fallen into a slump, has Mvp's number... even if Mvp is better than MMA, MMA always seems to know how to take Mvp out. Finally, there's MaNa. We all know that TvP isn't Mvp's best matchup and an upset does seem possible.

That's exactly why Mvp will 2-0 (4-0) this group in dominating fashion and proceed to state in his interview that he recently noticed an empty spot in his trophy case which he wants to fill.

Mvp's hungry for the trophy, after all, he would be very disappointed with only one GSL trophy in 2012. Even if the number of GSL seasons has gone down, it matters not. 2 trophies per year is the minimum, 3 is the standard, 4 is his goal. This is the kind of monster that Mvp is.

Let's go Mvp, crush through this group!

(Oh, and TaeJa.)

You are my hero.
No Mvp, no care. ~ the King will be back | Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Phil Heath |
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
September 09 2012 22:50 GMT
#71
Really good writeup, Waxangel, I like it a lot. So many TvT's incoming - that will be a lot of fun with three masters of their race in one group.

MaNa has slim chances at best in my opinion, but in this group he really has nothing to lose. There's no weak link, if he wins, it'll be damn impressive.
fireproofazn
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States231 Posts
September 09 2012 22:55 GMT
#72
ohhhh this is going to be sick. i hope mvp does well!
Terran<Protoss<Zerg
Mozdk
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark6989 Posts
September 09 2012 23:02 GMT
#73
Taeja and Mana/Mvp

Doubt MMA will win a single game.
"It's really hard to Protoss" - White-Ra |||| "Apedts are dfucking amazing" - Lorning
Scurvy
Profile Joined March 2012
United States117 Posts
September 09 2012 23:03 GMT
#74
Poor Mana. Such a stupidly crazy group.
With it or on it.
Miscellany
Profile Joined September 2011
Wales125 Posts
September 09 2012 23:04 GMT
#75
MMA and Taeja will advance.

It's too much of a longshot to even predict MaNa to win a single series IMO. And anyone who's seen Mvp's recent games will know his current status. Although, given his prowess late game it's not such a long shot. But MMA and Taeja look like they have the mechanics to destroy him via marine/tank
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
September 09 2012 23:07 GMT
#76
I feel like Mana and Taeja is a good choice. Although Mvp is doing great when i don't expect him to. No idea about MMA, don't think he'll do good.
Mattumsfox
Profile Joined April 2012
United States233 Posts
September 09 2012 23:11 GMT
#77
Taeja 2-0 Mana
MMA 2-0 MVP
MMA 2-0 Taeja
MVP 2-0 Mana
MVP 2-1 Taeja

This is the start of the return of MMA tonight.
Dontkillme
Profile Joined November 2011
Korea (South)806 Posts
September 09 2012 23:17 GMT
#78
Wow, MMA is gonna have a hard time but he isn't going to be knocked out in the fucking ro32

Taeja > MaNa

MMA > MVP

Taeja and MMA advances.
Bomber & Jaedong & FlaSh & SNSD <3
Nirel
Profile Joined September 2011
Israel1526 Posts
September 09 2012 23:17 GMT
#79
Not enough love for Taeja here
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
September 09 2012 23:20 GMT
#80
MMA and Mana to advance imo. MMA is one of the best TvT while Taeja isn't and MVP is not so hot right now. Beside that Mana deserves some recognition there for sure.
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