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August 28th, 2012 01:53 GMT
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Up Down Matches: Group A Recap


By: Fionn

Results from Live report thread by opterown.
+ Show Spoiler [Results] +
(T)KeeN <Ohana> (P)MaNa
(Z)HyuN <Atlantis Spaceship> (T)Bomber
(T)KeeN <Cloud Kingdom> (T)jjakji
(Z)HyuN <Antiga Shipyard> (P)MaNa
(T)Bomber <Daybreak> (T)jjakji
(Z)HyuN <Entombed Valley> (T)KeeN
(T)Bomber <Metropolis> (P)MaNa
(Z)HyuN <Whirlwind> (T)jjakji
(T)Bomber <Cloud Kingdom> (T)KeeN
(P)MaNa <Ohana> (T)jjakji



Advance to Code S
(T)Bomber: 3-1
(P)MaNa: 2-1

Relegated to Code A
(T)KeeN: 2-2
(Z)HyuN: 2-2
(T)jjakji: 0-3


First Time's the Charm
- MaNa goes 2 - 1 in Up/Down matches, earning a spot in Code S.

The only predictable thing about the Up/Down matches is that they will be unpredictable. Throw in three inconsistent Terrans, a Zerg who has never gotten this far before, and a foreigner that most of the players in the group had never seen play before, and you get a group that could have ended up with a hundred different conclusions. The least likely of all those scenarios might have been Mana, the powerhouse Protoss from Poland, actually getting out of the group and qualifying for Code S.

Strong start against Keen
While Bomber might have played more like the player that was expected to win a Code S in 2011, the other two Terrans in the group, Keen and jjakji, continued to be inconsistent and weren't able to match Mana in the group. MaNa started the night with a statement game, defeating Keen and showing that he wasn't going to be a free win for anyone. Keen was able to get off a nicely timed doom drop that took out most of Mana's main in the middle of the game, but mouz's star player wasn't shaken at all. He out positioned Keen throughout the entire game, harassed like crazy, and even while losing most of his tech, made sure to keep Keen's economy in check. Finally, after killing Keen's third over and over again, Mana was able to stabilize and mow through the rest of Keen's minuscule army with perfectly placed storms. Starting off with a strong win and placing himself at the top of the group with a 1-0 record, Mana still had a lot of work to do to get into Code S.

Halfway to Code S with a win against Hyun
Up next was his toughest challenge coming into the Up/Down group, the former MBC Game A-teamer, Hyun. Known for his strong ZvP, the TSL Zerg seemed to be a heavy favorite going into the match. Beating Squirtle and other top Protoss in ZvP's recently, how hard could it be to take down a foreigner in his worst match-up? Mana, for the second straight game, played like a veteran in the booth, knowing exactly what he could afford to lose, and what he had to defend in a game where there was much base trading. By the time both sides had run out mining bases, MaNa had an overwhelming army and received the GG in the final battle.

Thanks, Bomber?
Mana's winning streak was snapped eventually snapped by Bomber in his next game, not being able to match-up with one of the best TvP players in the world, especially when he got away with a hidden orbital at another main. However, it all worked out in the end, as MaNa became possibly the only foreigner to receive a truly lucky roll of the GSL dice. With Jjakji playing poorly, and Bomber playing very well, the wins over Keen and Hyun gave MaNa the head to head advantage he needed to advance as 2nd place no matter what.

MaNa was undeniably lucky to get drawn into a group of five instead of six, and have all the other players' matches work out so that he advanced with the least amount of games possible, but he proved in his games against Hyun and Keen that he could cause some noise in Code S. He owes Bomber a drink at a bar sometime for being able to defeat Keen in his final game of the night (which confirmed MaNa's 2nd place group finish), but Mana deserves his chance to take on the very best in next week's Code S.

Now the only question is if either Seed or MC will choose to play him in their groups, given that a foreigner has always been picked by one of the two finalists as their first opponent. Seed might be less likely, as he might be holding out for an inexperienced Zerg to make it through to choose. MC, on the other hand, is very possible. At Dreamhack, MC joked with Mana that he would never lose to him. Well, MC, this is your chance to prove it. Though considering what happens every time someone boasts about PvP, it might be a bad choice.

Bombing Up and Down
- Bomber returns to Code S with an impressive 3-1 record, and jjakji falls 0-3 in the group to become the only active GSL champion not in Code S Season 4.

Are we sure Bomber isn't the one that won GSL in November, and jjakji isn't the guy who has been a fringe Code S player most of his career? Bomber, who I compared to Sea yesterday, apparently decided to stop losing and played like you would expect from someone with his quality of player. No one will ever say Bomber is a bad player, but actually betting on him is like putting money on a PvP. Some nights he will bring his A-game and crush everyone in sight, and some nights he will manner mule while he's winning and proceed to lose the game.

He dropped his first game against Hyun, but that's understandable when he had to face a strong Zerg opponent on Atlantis Spaceship, a map that most expect not to be in the pool for the upcoming fourth season. Not tilting after a single loss, Bomber roared back with three straight forward victories over Keen, Mana, and jjakji. Bomber might have faulted against Hyun, but he didn't let this opportunity pass him by and crushed the next three players he was put up against. Keen and jjakji were no match for Bomber's TvT that mirrored more of his mid 2011 dominating period than his recent struggles in 2012. Mana, the only unbeaten player in the group at the time, gave it his best shot against Bomber, but came up short against Startale's former(?) ace.

Paving his way back into Code S, he gets his 13,452th shot at making us believe in him again. Not making it past the quarterfinals in his career and not getting deep in a Code S since summer of 2011, Bomber will need to play like how he did tonight if we want to start putting him anywhere near talks of best Terran in the world again. Like always with Bomber, we know he's damn good when he wants to be, but can he sustain it through a two month period? Guess we'll find out starting next week.

Jjakji misses the champions' party in Code S Season 4
Where there is good news, there is always bad news that follows it. Bomber might get another shot at a Code S championship, but jjakji's stock has hit it's lowest standing since he made it into Code S all the way back in October of 2011. He is now an abysmal 1-6 in his last two Up/Down groups, and he has only a single victory over Empire's Vines, who I forgot even existed before I went through Jjakji's tlpd. This was his big chance to qualify for Code S and make all eight active champions play in a single season against each other.

He not only failed to do this, but he got absolutely slaughtered by his opponents. While his peers in the championship pantheon will be playing in the biggest Code S season of all-time, jjakji will have to try again, for the third straight season, to get through Code A and get back into main tournament. The worst thing about all of this is what else does jjakji have except for GSL and WCG? HoSeo doesn't have the cash to send him to foreign tournaments if he doesn't do well in GSL. If he fails to make it into Code S, he has no chance of keeping himself relevant by doing well in foreign tournaments.

When Polt and MMA weren't doing well at the beginning of the year, what did they do? Both went to European events, Assembly and Iron Squid respectively, and won to keep their names out there, get cash, and continue to grow as players. jjakji doesn't get that luxury on HoSeo. Sage, their captain, has already left and is now living in Europe. Freaky, possibly HoSeo's most intriguing player, and someone who was getting tons of fans in the foreign community, quit playing Starcraft. Seal, who was supposed to be one of the next Zerg bonjwas, continuously qualifies for Code A and then loses in the first round. Even San, the most noticeable player alongside jjakji on HoSeo, is more known for his old clan Zenith than he is for being on HoSeo.

You have to feel bad for our former champion. He will be the only champion left out of the Code S party, and he is on a team that has no funds to let him impress on an international scale. With core players of HoSeo leaving left and right, we will have to look at what the future holds for jjakji. He is still an amazing player at the young age of seventeen, and if he would ever decide to leave HoSeo, there is no question that a slew of Korean teams and possibly foreign teams would be interested in having him on their squad.

Up/Down: Group B Preview


By: Waxangel
Top two advance to Code S

(T)EG.ThorZaINRC
Unfortunately, ThorZaIN had to cancel his participation in the Up/Down matches. I suppose it's a bit of a boon for GomTV, since he was the only player in tonight's Up/Down group that would have had his flight to Korea delayed by typhoon Bolaven. Alas, there goes our chance of seeing a three-foreigner Code S tournament for the first time ever.

5. (T)ST_Hack

The fact that Hack is last place in this group tells you something about how stacked it is. Hack has never been a great player outside of TvP, but he's still a high Code A player who could make it into Code S with some bracket luck. Unfortunately he's drawn a group where everyone is at least a low Code S player, and the strongest players have made it to the semi-finals in the past. Hack can't even be happy about the two Protoss players in his group. AcE is his teammate and a pretty good PvT player to boot, while Puzzle entire purpose the last GSTL season was to eradicate less established players like Hack. All that said, Hack still has a fighting, all-inning chance against everyone in this group, so if he is well prepared, he could make it through.

4. (P)ST_AcE

AcE is the wild card of the group. After being written off almost entirely in last season's Up/Down matches, he tore through a group containing MMA, Killer, Heart, BBoongBBoong, and MarineKing Prime with a 4 – 1 record to reach Code S. He looked like he was going to make a splash in Code S as well, defeating TaeJa in his very first series, but then proceeded to lose his next two matches and his proceeding Code A match to land directly in the Up/Downs.

In the larger context of AcE's career, you'd have to say that his Up/Down result last season was anomoly. He went from almost never beating Code S class players, to taking down two in one night. Even weirder, he didn't even need cheese to do it – the most impressive victory was his take-down of MKP in a macro game on Entombed Valley. Though AcE's run last season was more than likely a fluke, the fact that he beat some of the GSL's best players in straight up games tells us we should be wary. Lightning might strike twice.

3. (Z)MVP.Sniper

Sniper is Wild Card B. While most viewers might only know him for crashing out of Code S last season to SuperNoVa and MC, he's actually right up there with Monster as one of team MVP's biggest developing talents. Unbeknownst to many, DRG has actually sucked in GSTL this year, and team MVP has relied on the Zerg duo of Monster and Sniper to pick up the slack. Last season Sniper went 7 – 1, instrumental in defeating SlayerS and FnaticRC (obviously, the Korean school of coaching required that he be axed from the semi-final match where MVP lost to FXOpen). He's been good in Code A and Up/Downs as well, beating players like Curious, and Bomber while also giving Mvp a run for his money. So what if he got eliminated instantly by SuperNoVa and MC? Those two could make anyone look like a chump. If Sniper had landed in a softer group, who knows what he could have done?

2. (T)FXOGuMiho

It's really hard to tell how much stock we should put into one amazing performance, no matter unbelievable and borderline miraculous it was. Yes, Gumiho beat SlayerS' five best players in a single night, winning FXOpen the GSTL championship. But before that, he was coming off several months of being fairly mediocre, stuck in a perpetual hangover after reaching the GSL semi-finals in February. And of course, we know what happened immediately after, as he was dumped from WCS Korea by KeSPA's effort.

Despite these swings, we at least know Gumiho's base level should settle somewhere in Code S. He's been in the GSL's premiere tournament for the last four seasons, always finding ways through Code A or the Up/Downs. If he shows championship caliber play tonight, don't be surprised. For Gumiho, the question is if he can produce his best form once he reaches Code S.

1. (P)SlayerS_Puzzle

After his poor showing against Gumiho in the GSTL finals and his elimination from WCS at the hands of two KeSPA players, it's easy to rail on Puzzle for being a choker. However, you have to put things in context. First off, how many players in the world would play well in the GSTL finals with their team down 0 – 4? Seed, and the 2011 versions of MMA and DRG, probably. Also, everybody lost to KeSPA players at WCS, so let's give that a rest.

In a more 'normal' situation like the WCS – though it comes with its own brand of pressure – Puzzle is a player who should dominate. While everyone else in the group is known for having his ups and downs (ok, that was bad), Puzzle is consistently good with his safe, standard play. He regularly demolishes low Code S and Code A players in the GSTL, Code A, and Up/Down matches, because he's a Code S player who firmly belongs there. The only problem Puzzle has is that he's bad at PvP, but with only one Protoss opponent in this group, Puzzle is in a great position.





Writer: Fionn and Waxangel.
Graphics and Art: Meko.
Frontpage image: shiroiusagi.
Editor: Waxangel.
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GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
August 28 2012 01:59 GMT
#2
Gogo gomiHOE
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
August 28 2012 02:00 GMT
#3
I'm rooting for Ace and Sniper. Unfortunate Thorzain can't make it
Refer to my post.
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
August 28 2012 02:08 GMT
#4
NICE!!! I think AcE should be last though rather than Hack...
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
August 28 2012 02:09 GMT
#5
Also, I predict Puzzle first and Sniper second.
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 28 2012 02:14 GMT
#6
As long as Gumi makes it I'm happy.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Walnuts
Profile Joined March 2012
United States770 Posts
August 28 2012 02:17 GMT
#7
Thank GOD that fionn wasn't the one to put Puzzle in first, i got really worried for a moment before I checked the author.
Gandalf on balance: "It's always darkest before the dawn"
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
August 28 2012 02:18 GMT
#8
1. Sniper
2. Hack
3. Gumiho
4. Puzzle
5. Ace

yo
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33340 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-28 02:22:30
August 28 2012 02:22 GMT
#9
how do you get hack higher than puzzle after watching wcs

or is this a reverseprediction joke about how two protoss will go through?
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HoLe
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada183 Posts
August 28 2012 02:37 GMT
#10
All I'm thinking about is how Thorzain will be missing. T.T

+ Show Spoiler +
It's okay, hack looking super sharp
Terran.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
August 28 2012 02:38 GMT
#11
On August 28 2012 11:18 Fionn wrote:
1. Sniper
2. Hack
3. Gumiho
4. Puzzle
5. Ace

yo


Technically,

1. Hack
2. Sniper
3. Gumiho
4. Puzzle
5. Ace

Assuming it follows the predictions from last night.
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DRob
Profile Joined May 2012
United States30 Posts
August 28 2012 02:39 GMT
#12
GuMiho & Sniper are my picks to advance. Puzzle took the WCS experience pretty hard considered he talked about quitting StarCraft 2 so I'm not sure what state of mind he is in.

1. Sniper
2. GuMiho
3. Puzzle
4. Hack
5. Ace
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unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
August 28 2012 02:47 GMT
#13
On August 28 2012 11:22 Waxangel wrote:
how do you get hack higher than puzzle after watching wcs

or is this a reverseprediction joke about how two protoss will go through?

if it's a reverseprediction joke does that mean that hack and sniper advance?
Alex-56
Profile Joined August 2012
China1 Post
August 28 2012 02:47 GMT
#14
WTF,means that I cant see thorzain tonight...T.T
Walnuts
Profile Joined March 2012
United States770 Posts
August 28 2012 02:50 GMT
#15
On August 28 2012 11:39 DRob wrote:
GuMiho & Sniper are my picks to advance. Puzzle took the WCS experience pretty hard considered he talked about quitting StarCraft 2 so I'm not sure what state of mind he is in.

1. Sniper
2. GuMiho
3. Puzzle
4. Hack
5. Ace


Huh?
Where/when did he say that? I was away last week, so that might have been it, but what did he say exactly?
Gandalf on balance: "It's always darkest before the dawn"
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
August 28 2012 03:08 GMT
#16
On August 28 2012 11:39 DRob wrote:
GuMiho & Sniper are my picks to advance. Puzzle took the WCS experience pretty hard considered he talked about quitting StarCraft 2 so I'm not sure what state of mind he is in.

1. Sniper
2. GuMiho
3. Puzzle
4. Hack
5. Ace


I think you might be looking too deep into Miya's interview...it was probably (and hopefully) just an offhand comment that was exaggerated.
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sickthink
Profile Joined December 2011
United States60 Posts
August 28 2012 03:17 GMT
#17
DRG sucking in GSTL was.... knownst by everyone who watched the matches and him in his downward spiral this last season(couple of months) in Korea and abroad.
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stephenrau
Profile Joined November 2011
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Last Edited: 2012-08-28 03:33:13
August 28 2012 03:29 GMT
#18
"Freaky, possibly HoSeo's most intriguing player, and someone who was getting tons of fans in the foreign community, quit playing Starcraft."

How did this not make the news and no posts on TL at all???

Seriously some moron who I can't ignore because TL refuses to have an ignore feature (xr___) actually lists Freaky as one of like 15 korean zergs better than stephano. A joke but Freaky was awesome to watch in GSTL.
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LowEloPlayer
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
United States205 Posts
August 28 2012 03:42 GMT
#19
If Puzzle plays the way we know him to, he willl smash this group. If not, well, he'll lose.

GuMiho will get through unless he plays like a retard

So, Puzzle & GuMiho. If not Puzzle, then I'd say Sniper/Hack.

Honestly I think AcE's run in last U/D was a fluke, and he only beat TaeJa because TaeJa had a "TaeJa moment" where he just didn't make vikings [It was 2 Vikings at a time vs. double robo colossi, and he never added on more starports] against colossi and proceeded to lose (he did this in all 3 sets, and he actually won one of them because AcE decided to suicide his whole army to kill a planetary fortress).
hmm... let's think about it
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Canada149 Posts
August 28 2012 03:50 GMT
#20
Also, everybody lost to KeSPA players at WCS, so let's give that a rest


Well, everybody except LiquidHero, my hero.
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