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[Code S] RO8 Day Two - Parting Ways With Two

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[Code S] RO8 Day Two - Parting Ways With Two

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February 16th, 2012 01:22 GMT
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  • Code S RO8, Day One in Review
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Code S RO8, Day One in Review


By: Waxangel


(T)SlayerS_MMA vs (T)fnaticRCaLive


Game One –
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Dual Sight

MMA opened up with his favored reaper expansion build, while Alive took a page out of the TvP playbook and went for a 1/1/1 on Dual Sight. Alive somehow counter-counter-counter mind gamed MMA'd correctly, and put his two marines in the exact location MMA's scouting reaper hopped up the cliff, and managed to hide his aggressive build. This allowed Alive to take a huge advantage, as MMA tried to move out with a handful of marines and clear the watch towers, when in fact Alive was moving into the center with even more marines and a hellion to back them up. This ended up with MMA losing his absolutely crucial first six marines at his weakest point in the game, and allowed Alive to immediately launch his 1/1/1 attack before waiting for any kind of ideal composition. Marines and a raven were the first to arrive at MMA's ramp, and Alive set up an uncontested staging position supported by auto turrets. With only shield upgraded marines, MMA had no chance once siege mode tanks arrived, and was forced to GG out.

Winner: Alive


Game Two –
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Entombed Valley

It looked like another empty loss for MMA after his proxy factory was scouted and stopped by Alive when it was 97% completed, but MMA took a big risk that paid off and got him back in the game. Alive assumed that MMA wouldn't go for anything tricky after getting his proxy factory canceled, and played entirely normally. However, MMA actually restarted the factory in his main and went for cloaked banshees anyway, even though they were significantly late. This all worked out superbly for MMA, and Alive was poorly prepared for the late banshees, and began to take a huge amount of SCV damage.

Alive came to the conclusion that scrambling around and trying to belatedly stop the banshees would only put him in a giant hole, so he decided to gather up all his marines and gamble on a huge attack to hurt MMA as well. However, MMA was prepared with bunkers at the front, and Alive's attack was thwarted. Though Alive did finally clean up the banshees in his main, the loss of his army and economy put him too far behind for there to be a chance of recovery. MMA quickly amassed a force that was superior to Alive's and took the game.

Winner: MMA


Game Three –
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Crossfire

Both players decided they would go with 1/1/1 play to start, but MMA's choice of starport units seemed to give him a big advantage. While Alive went for cloaked banshees, MMA decided to go for a fast raven and vikings after. Alive's first banshee was easily thwarted, though it did take down 6 SCVs before it died. After stopping this first banshee, however, MMA made a gigantic error in judgment. It may have been that he assumed Alive had been going for a banshee expansion instead of a one base build, because MMA moved out with his troops for a doomed counter attack.

Alive had sieged tanks defending his base by the time MMA arrived, while he simply sent a second banshee around to polish off the rest of MMA's SCVs, as there were not enough ravens or banshees to cover more than one front. MMA's attack met an ugly demise, while his SCVs suffered a similar fate to a single cloaked banshee. MMA GG'd out, and the series moved on to the fourth map.

Winner: Alive


Game Four –
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Daybreak

Alive opened up with proxy marauders against MMA's barracks FE, but some superb SCV micro from MMA allowed him to fend the attack off easily and take a quick economic lead. Additionally, a well-placed scan scouted out Alive's double gas follow-up, alerting him to the cloaked banshees that were to come. However, MMA was over confident in his ability to stop Alive's banshees after having scouted them, and built too few turrets and used one or two more mules than was safe. Though he stopped the first banshee easily with marines and vikings, the second one snaked into a blind spot in MMA's base while there was no mana for scan, and took out a fair number of SCVs. Alive continued the assault with an unexpected suicide blue-flame hellion drop, which roasted a large amount of SCVs to immediately swing the game in Alive's favor.

From there, Alive immediately stopped all aggressive action and turtled up on his side of the map while going mech. It was the same kind of safe, secure mech play we saw from him in the RO16, and this time he was executing it with a 20 SCV advantage. MMA couldn't find any gaps to harass Alive through, and was forced to follow along in the macro war from a disadvantaged position. Alive's mech ended up maxing out around thirty supply ahead of MMA's bio, which meant MMA was in for a ton of pain. Alive forced an engagement, and MMA attacked at a fairly decent timing half-way through the siege-mode transformation, but his troops were still utterly annihilated. Alive kept pushing through MMA's bases, and eventually MMA was forced to GG out.

Winner: Alive


Game Five –
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Alive won 3 – 1





(T)FXOGuMiho vs (P)SlayerS_Puzzle

Game One –
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Metropolis

Puzzle opened up with a Nexus first build, and then after seeing Gumiho's rax FE, decided he to go for Parting's build. You know, the triple nexus, 8-gate pressure build that beats the crap out of conservative rax-FE builds, and looked ridiculously OP last week.

However, Puzzle wasn't the only player who had watched the previous week's games, and Gumiho had a counter build specially prepared for the occasion. He followed up his rax FE with quick double gas and went for a cloaked banshee, as well as rushing to siege tanks to help fend off the attack. Everything worked beautifully for Gumiho, with his tanks smashing Puzzle's 8-gate timing while his banshees did a number on Puzzle's economy.

Gumiho was able to transition into a regular composition and take his third base, while staying comfortably ahead of Puzzle. Gumiho decided to fit in a strong attack while his few tanks were still useful, and went for a great drop + frontal pressure dual prong attack that traded advantageously with Puzzle's army. In the meanwhile, Gumiho was taking his side of the map without any kind of pressure at at all, and was gearing up to become a macro monster.

Gumiho didn't let up the pressure. With a stong economic base, he was relentless in sending continued drops and ground troops in Puzzle's general direction. Although Puzzle managed to get some templars which helped immensely, there was just too much infantry attacking on too many fronts for him to stabilize. Bases went down left and right, and eventually Puzzle had to GG out.

Winner: Gumiho


Game Two –
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Bel'Shir Beach Winter

Gumiho opened with a no-gas 2-rax build to take advantage of any overly ambitious fast expansion from his opponent, but Puzzle went for a slightly delayed 1-gate expansion, causing Gumiho to just follow-up with an expansion of his own instead. Gumiho wasn't done trying to do early damage, and went for a quick hellion drop to catch Puzzle off guard. However, Puzzle scouted the dropship with an observer, and was able to defend the perimeter of his base as he teched up to templars and upgrades.

There was still one last surprise Gumiho had up his sleeve. Instead of going for marines, medivacs, and marauders, he was going for an unusual marine, tank, medivac timing aimed at taking down Puzzle's third base. However, Gumiho just couldn't hit the timing he wanted, and Puzzle's chargelots and psi storms were more than enough to rip through the Terran army once it got into an attacking position.

Gumiho was too far behind at that point, with a weak economy and even weaker army composition. Puzzle marched into Gumiho's base and started destroying things left and right, forcing the GG.

Winner: Puzzle


Game Three –
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Cloud Kingdom

Gumiho telegraphed a 1/1/1 build from the start and dared Puzzle to try and stop it. However, it was no ordinary 1/1/1 build. Instead of pushing all the way in, Gumiho faked the all-in, and expanded behind it instead. Then, while Puzzle was wondering was going on, Gumiho used a medivac to drop two tanks in Puzzle's main to take out a number of probes. Between his tanks and banshees, Gumiho did a fine little number on Puzzle's probes, taking out fifteen.

That was the set up for an even bigger, off-beat 1/1/1 push off two bases, designed to catch the opponent at an unexpected timing. The attack came with combat shields and medivacs, increasing the deadliness of the push significantly. Gumiho caught Puzzle exactly where he wanted him; still making gateway units and immortals, and not yet having reached charge, colossi, or any units of danger.

Puzzle had a chance to defeat the army if he had used precise forcefields, but instead he ended up getting caught completely out of position as he went for a flank, and got his army battered black and blue for no gain. Gumiho swept through Puzzle's defenses with ease and took the third game.

Winner: Gumiho


Game Four –
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Dual Sight

Puzzle accepted Gumiho's challenge after a reactor-tech lab 2-rax build happened in plain sight of his scouting probe, and decided to go for a 1-gate expansion. This turned out to be a close shave for Puzzle, as Gumiho decided to wait until stimpak upgrade was done to attack, and got the nexus down to a few hundred HP before his forces were repelled. In any case, Gumiho managed to expand behind his aggression, and the game seemed to be at a fairly even state.

Once he had a few immortals out and the Nexus had recovered a fair amount of shields, Puzzle decided it was time to be the aggressor. At the same time, Gumiho had got his first two dropships out and was looking to cause trouble for Puzzle. Gumiho saw the forces coming for his natural, decided his dropships couldn't get back in time, and decided he would make it a pure base race.

Puzzle had nothing at home to stop Gumiho's forces, so his base was torn down quickly. He had to absolutely crush everything Gumiho had on his side of the map, but unfortunately, Gumiho's newly created forces and all of his SCVs were able to rally together and defeat the Protoss army. That left with Puzzle with nothing, and he was forced to GG.

Winner: Gumiho


Game Five –
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Gumiho won 3 – 1



Notes and Comments


Shades of Polt

MMA's excellent GSL record has been based on his ability to prevent his opponents from playing the game they want, and taking well calculated risks (economic or military) to make sure he's always playing with some kind of advantage. Though MMA's good enough to beat people straight up, he knows that the easy, ugly win is as good as the hard fought, attractive win.

Naturally, I was surprised when Alive managed to trump him in this department, out-thinking (and out-lucking) MMA in three of four games. Alive has always looked more like a middle of the road, macro player, and I didn't expect his one base builds to screw with MMA in that fashion. There was no straight up mech vs bio duel where mid-late game ability was tested. Regardless of their length, all four games were mostly decided by the early game mind-games, with a player outright won or took a big economic advantage through their strategem.

It was reminiscent of MMA's series against Polt in the Super Tournament, where Polt took the air out of MMA's lungs and defeated him with better builds and strategies four games in a row. It was disappointing to fans looking forward to seeing an epic duel to the death, but you had to respect Polt's ability to plan for a series and exploit his opponent's weaknesses.

It's improved my opinion of aLive going forward, as the later rounds of the GSL are always a bit of a half-luck, half-intelligence based crapshoot of builds and strategies. If Alive can play that game as well against his semi-final opponent as he did against MMA, we may very well see him in the finals.


Feels good, brah

Watching Gumiho smack Puzzle upside the head was one of the most enjoyable experiences I've had in Starcraft II. I tend to take the side of whichever race is whining the most at a given time, so seeing this one-sided TvP beat-down was just marvelously fun.

In the first game, Puzzle decided to use Parting's triple expand into 8-gate 'imba' build that crushed Jjakji's soul last week, as if he thought Gumiho was some scrub who didn't watch games from the tournament he was in. I almost laughed when I saw Gumiho's perfectly tailored response, where he followed his FE with a cloaked banshee and siege tanks. What was going through Gumiho's head? I like to think it was 'B**** please, that s*** is soooooo last week.'

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Get that weak s*** OUTTA HERE!


The banshees crippled Puzzle's economy while the tanks blew gateway units to smithereens from their high ground perch. Regardless of the race you support, you can't deny the beauty of seeing a strategy picked apart so perfectly.

The other awesome moment came with Gumiho's off-beat, two base 1/1/1/1 in game three. That strategy was pure three-step Puma:

1) Protoss: I think I know what my opponent is doing.
2) Protoss: I don't know what my opponent is doing.
3) Protoss: Oh, he's killing me.


Puzzle's 1-gate expansion path would have been perfect to stop a normal 1/1/1, but he ended up getting completely thrown off, and it showed in some of his clumsy troop movements. In truth, he probably could have won the game with good decision making and smart engagements, but Gumiho forced him into a tough spot where it was hard to make the right decisions on short notice. "Puma-esque!" we say. Gumiho deserves no lesser accolade. (Also, Gumiho made a two-tank drop actually work as a useful part of a strategy. How many players in the world can do that?)

Whether he faces DongRaeGu or Parting, Gumiho's semi-final series should be a blast.

RO8 Preview: MC vs Genius


By: Fionn

And just like that, after an upset featuring Alive over MMA last night in the quarter-finals, only one former GSL champion remains. Two-time GSL winner (P)SK_MC has his sights on tying Nestea and MVP at three championships, now having a road to the final that begins with his strongest match-up, PvP, and then a clash against the recently awakened monster Alive in the semifinals. It has been a year since MC was last in a GSL final, when he beat July in five games. If he can make it back this time around, he has the opportunity to show that the elections for President are just a sham, and he's the de facto dictator of this Protoss republic.

A few months ago, it looked like the President would be ousted in a coup. Falling from Code S down to Code A, MC's one and two base timing attacks stopped working. With how weak the Protoss race was at the time, especially against Terran, not even the only champion Aiur was able to stay afloat in the water. When it looked like it couldn't get any worse, in his first round match against Monster in Code A October, MC did the impossible and fell out of the GSL entirely, losing in three games to the unknown Zerg from the MVP team and reaching rock bottom in his career.

A lot of people thought it would be a hard road to get back. His timings weren't the same as they used to. Protoss, the race itself, was at its lowest point, having been almost completely wiped out from the GSL. With how deadly the Code A qualifiers were, housing some of the hungriest players in the world, it felt like it really could have been the last time we saw MC as a dominating force in Code S. If he was ever going to have at another shot at a title, it would have to come from a miracle.

Well, he got that miracle in the form of MLG Orlando. MC didn't win the tournament, his friend and housemate at the time Huk did, but he was able to get second place in the tournament, and as the highest non-Code S seeded player at the event, was given a straight seed back into Code S. What looked like a journey that could take months or even longer to complete, literally took MC less than a month to come back from. Right when he hit rock bottom, he rose to the occasion, beat his teammate TheStC in the semifinals of the tournament and was able to get a second chance.

Since then, MC hasn't let the opportunity slip away, getting to the semifinals of the Blizzard Cup before narrowly losing a five game series to DongRaeGu, and has now reached his first Code S quarterfinal in almost half a year. The timing attacks that weren't working three months ago are now firing on all cylinders, hitting at the perfect time and taking wins in the usual under twelve minute fashion that you come to expect when watching MC. That's not to say that MC can't play a long macro game, he can and will, but the Kratoss Protoss is his most dangerous when it comes to his timings. What happened when his six gate timings stopped working? He went up to eight gates. Whenever you play MC, you have to play safe or he will find the window to attack you.

His opponent shares a similar history from the past year. (P)MVPGenius, to me, was always the Clide or Zenio of his race in the GSL. He would never be amazing or get to a semifinal or higher, but you could see him hanging around the top thirty two or round of sixteen every tournament, maybe taking a game or two, and then surviving the Up-and-Down matches to stay in Code S. It really hasn't been until this tournament when Genius', well, genius has really been able to shine through.

In the round of thirty two against his teammates DongRaeGu and sC, he put on an absolute clinic. You could tell that Genius knew how to read his teammates like the back of his hand, having the correct builds ready to defeat the best builds that his friends had to offer. When the four games against his comrades were over, Genius was the one standing in the end, his usual goofy grin on his face, celebrating like only he and MC can inside and outside the booth. Genius, who coming into the tournament might have looked like the weakest of the four MVP Code S members, was suddenly putting up the best results, crushing two players that the majority thought he would lose against.

Genius was able to win Blizzcon back in 2010, but wasn't able to follow that up with any major results in the GSL. He never did awful by any stretch of the imagination, but he never truly contended for the title. He was hyped in the early Open seasons as the Protoss to look out for and the one that players should fear to face, but before long that title was taken away from Genius and given to MC who was rolling through every player he was put up against in the third Open Season.

This series isn't only to see who will go to the semifinals, but to see which of these GSL veteran Protoss have what it takes to make good on their second chances in Code S. Both fell out of the tournament entirely, but they were both, in their own ways, able to get back and are on the verge to being one semifinal away from making it to where every player wants to be, the GSL Grand Finals. We all know about the Royal Roader Parting in the other quarterfinal, but this is a match between the two Protosses who have been considered the strongest since the early stages of GSL.

We all know that both these players love to celebrate after winning, but who will be the one laughing in the end? Can Genius continue to defy the odds? Twice in the round of sixteen, he was one game away from being eliminated from the tournament but was able to win two in a row against both MarineKing and Nestea to advance. But will that be enough to become the new President of Aiur?

At the end of the night, one will be slumped in his booth, devastated from defeat, while the other will be literally dancing his way to the semifinals.


Prediction: MC 3 - 1 Genius

RO8 Preview: DongRaeGu vs Parting


By: Waxangel

It's never a pretty sight when two hype wagons collide head on. One will be derailed, strewing mangled fanboy parts all over the highway, while the broken chassis leaks bitter, toxic tears. The other wagon will hurtle on with even greater momentum, an even greater danger to those who are unfortunate to get caught underneath its wheels. Ladies and gentlemen, DongRaeGu vs Parting.

I mentioned previously that Protoss fans have arrived at a position where they don't just want their champion to win, they want him to win with style. Some follow their nostalgia and stay with MC, but many have been tempted by the newly arrived (P)ST_Parting, a player who showed amazing late game PvT mastery in his games against Jjakji. Terran players joke that any game against Protoss that goes beyond 25 minutes is a lost cause anyway, but Parting transcended these recent complaints and made his victories truly about his own skill, and not just his race. 'This is the guy who should be the new President!' is the feeling in some quarters.

Well, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but his PvZ doesn't look like it will live up to the expectations. We got a big taste of his PvZ during the MLG Winter Arena Korea qualifiers, where nine of his games against IM Zergs Losira and Nestea were shown. The takeaway from those games? Parting's PvZ is... Puzzling. SlayerS_Puzzling, to hammer the point home. He plays safe, macros and micros well, puts down force-fields that are annoying as hell, but it's not remarkable.

It's a bit of a flawed and hasty analysis, because of the nature of those MLG games. They tended to be games that were decided in the mid-game depending on how Parting's all-in or semi-all-in builds played out. You can't blame a player for doing a 7-gate +2 all-in, because it's a proven strategy that works; it just doesn't tell you much about a player except his micro. There was really only one game that went very long and tested his abilities in that phase of the game, but he entered the late game with a disadvantage anyway, and it wasn't that great of a showing.

That's not to deny that he is very good, as the results speak for themselves. It's just that there wasn't any of that "oh wow, he's thinking one step ahead of his opponent" or "this guy's strategy is way better than the other guy" feeling like there was against Jjakji. Surprisingly enough, that was a vibe we got from some of Genius' PvZ games this season, where all his strategies just seem so well planned out with everything falling into place with his good decision making.

(Z)MVPDongRaeGu is in a bit of a similar boat, as he could really be a more convincing Zerg King if he had just slightly better ZvP. His ZvT has never been better, and his ZvZ is as good as it can be in that wonky match-up. He ZvP is actually pretty good as well, it's just not completely ridiculous like his ZvT, which makes him look a bit incomplete, considering he's filling Nestea's shoes. MC took him to the edge with some all-in timings DRG did not expect in during the Blizzard Cup, while Genius simply outplayed him with superior strategies and decision making, showing that DRG is vulnerable on more than one front. Once he's comfortable and gets the ball rolling, and can start to abuse the mobility of mutalisks and speedlings, there really is no better player at finishing Protoss players off. It's just not guaranteed that he will get to that point.

As usual, a lot depends on how the players spent their week of preparation. Maybe it's just the nature of the match-up, but when MC got a couple of days to prepare for Leenock and DRG in the Blizzard Cup, he spent it preparing ten all-in builds. He beat Leenock and was inches away from defeating DRG, suggesting that such an approach can be effective, if inelegant. Parting is almost certain to bring at least one slightly unorthodox all-in that he hopes DRG has never seen, or at least won't expect. Beyond that, PvZ isn't really that conducive to brand new, grand strategies (remember how MC's carriers got hammered down by DRG in the Blizzard Cup?). On the other hand, it's not like the Zerg player can do much either, barring the occasional baneling or roach bust, or possibly a nydus assisted lair phase attack. DRG might very well spend most of his time preparing to not die to anything stupid, rather than look for easy ways to beat his opponent. This series should be fairly textbook PvZ, from the looks of it.

Up to this point, it seems like a fairly even match, with two players who have their specialties elsewhere meeting in a duel where they are nonetheless, still fairly skilled. However, there's one, final mitigating factor: Crossfire has slipped into the map pool. We all know how Protoss players feel about Crossfire. It's not even avoidable either, being placed in the third set. With that, I think we can give DRG a slight lead.

Prediction: DongRaeGu 3 – 2 Parting

















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Writer: Fionn and Waxangel.
Graphics and Art: Meko and Pony Tales (disciple and Lip the Pencilboy).
Editor: Waxangel
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Corsica
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Ukraine1854 Posts
February 16 2012 01:23 GMT
#2
Ehh sorry Parting but its time for your Cinderella story to end (hope not!)
H0RNET
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Thailand138 Posts
February 16 2012 01:25 GMT
#3
DRG FIGHTING
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GhandiEAGLE
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United States20754 Posts
February 16 2012 01:25 GMT
#4
MC VS GENIUS

Match of the night, calling it
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Whatson
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States5356 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 01:27:45
February 16 2012 01:26 GMT
#5
Goddamit Fionn!
I wanted DRG and MC to win!

In all seriousness, there should be some good games today!
¯\_(シ)_/¯
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
February 16 2012 01:34 GMT
#6
Great write up! Thanks guys!

Agreed with the predictions, though I have a suspicion DRG v Parting might be more one sided than 3-2. That said, really looking forward to all of these games, and then all the possibilities for semi finals and then all the grand final possibilities.

Last season was my favourite GSL yet, already enjoying this season more thus far!
Mvp - Leenock - Dongraegu - MC - Gumiho - Keen - Polt - Squirtle - Jjakji - Genius - Seed - Life - sC - Dream || LG-IM - MVP - FXO
jkang
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United States404 Posts
February 16 2012 01:36 GMT
#7
In the first game, Puzzle decided to use Parting's triple expand into 8-gate 'imba' build that crushed Jjakji's soul last week, as if he thought Gumiho was some scrub who didn't watch games from the tournament he was in. I almost laughed when I saw Gumiho's perfectly tailored response, where he followed his FE with a cloaked banshee and siege tanks. What was going through Gumiho's head? I like to think it was 'B**** please, that s*** is soooooo last week.'
this. this.
DRG to take it, as much as I like PartinG.
RBKeys
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada196 Posts
February 16 2012 01:38 GMT
#8
Thanks for the write up! But, to be honest, my favorite part is the end. Not because it's over, but because I like Fishuu's cartoons
Thanks for the break :D
randomsaint
Profile Joined December 2011
42 Posts
February 16 2012 01:40 GMT
#9
I think I saw someone mention in the MLG KR qualifier LR topic that there was a good chance that Parting wasn't really giving his PvZs his all (especially later in the qualifier) since he already knew he would be playing against DRG and didn't want to reveal anything. Also possibly that he didn't care all too much since I guess Top 8 was just fighting for seeds? It's still really interesting to me that he said PvZ is his most comfortable matchup in his interview.
aRyuujin
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5049 Posts
February 16 2012 01:47 GMT
#10
really want to see MC take this
can i get my estro logo back pls
Cyclone999
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada331 Posts
February 16 2012 01:52 GMT
#11
o________________o never expected either of these results, I thought it was a good walkover for the SlayerS team.
SO YOU GUYS WEREN'T JOKING WHEN YOU GUYS SAID ALIVE AND GUMIHO WERE GOOD...
dayum.
16 year old Masters Terran :D
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
February 16 2012 02:04 GMT
#12
dammit Fionn, why did you have to freaking curse MC?
Go go Alliance.
holy_war
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States3590 Posts
February 16 2012 02:08 GMT
#13
Gogo the Dong and MC!
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 16 2012 02:11 GMT
#14
Tough day for a Slayers fan...
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
February 16 2012 02:12 GMT
#15
Lol Wax such a tease. The unplayed games are always the best.
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jwcdis
Profile Joined January 2012
7 Posts
February 16 2012 02:22 GMT
#16
I was very enamored by parting's GSL play but in the MLG he was really exposed by Nestea (4-1) and even being taken to Game7 by Losira.

DRG should have the edge of this one.
Olinimm
Profile Joined November 2011
1471 Posts
February 16 2012 02:23 GMT
#17
Hope your predictions are right xDDD
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
February 16 2012 02:23 GMT
#18
Gogo DRG! Really hope he wins, always been a big fan.
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
February 16 2012 02:33 GMT
#19
Fionn cursed MC and DRG so I'll be voting Genius and Parting
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
February 16 2012 02:38 GMT
#20
-.- oh man every time a prediction aligns with someone i like, it turns out to be wrong
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
February 16 2012 02:38 GMT
#21
DRG! Gogogo~

Not really fussed about Genius vs MC, they're both badasses.
Long live the King of Wings
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
February 16 2012 02:40 GMT
#22
Hoping for parting/MC!
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The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
February 16 2012 02:56 GMT
#23
Rooting for Genius in this next match. What can I say, I want a new GSL champ, and MC may very well be the guy to take it. That being said aLive, PartinG, and DRG are all looking extra scary!
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 16 2012 03:18 GMT
#24


MMA
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
blacklist_member
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia318 Posts
February 16 2012 03:22 GMT
#25
On February 16 2012 10:26 Whatson wrote:
Goddamit Fionn!
I wanted DRG and MC to win!


Oh well, might as well bet on Gemius and Parting now....
MC and MKP fighting ^^
dragonborn
Profile Joined January 2012
4781 Posts
February 16 2012 03:35 GMT
#26
R.I.P Polt
Bartiemus
Profile Joined June 2010
New Zealand84 Posts
February 16 2012 03:44 GMT
#27
Wouldn't A MC vs DRG finals just be the stuff dreams are made but wait this is the GSL so there will be at least one Terran in it.
Id rather just kill you and call it a day.
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
February 16 2012 03:59 GMT
#28
Yes yes yes. First MMA and then DRG

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Kharnage
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia920 Posts
February 16 2012 04:03 GMT
#29
As Day9 said, these players are so cloely matched to hell with "predictions", back the ones you love.
GO MC!
GO PARTING!
GO PROTOSS!!
FOR AIUR!!!
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
February 16 2012 04:03 GMT
#30
I thought "Code S RO8, Day One in Review" was written by Fionn when I hit the additional comments section.

Was surprised to realize it was actually written by Wax when I scrolled back up.
FidoDido
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1292 Posts
February 16 2012 04:04 GMT
#31
no "mana" for scans indeed!
LGIMSeed FantasyToss~~ Hipster Seed fan before he made Code A
Ansinjunger
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2451 Posts
February 16 2012 04:10 GMT
#32
Thanks for doing the DRG prediction Waxangel.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 04:17:54
February 16 2012 04:14 GMT
#33
MMA vs Alive game 1

LR thread recommended poll - 95% yes
Waxangel's gamerating - 1.5 stars

XD Just thought that was kinda funny.

Generally speaking, I'm more inclined to agree with Waxangel's ratings. Although Wax can seem a little too jaded at times, the polls are too heavily influenced by factors outside the game itself for me to believe them with full confidence. That being said the only way to know for sure is to watch the game yourself, which I will be doing now.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33316 Posts
February 16 2012 04:21 GMT
#34
it was not an auto-turret rush, he happened to kill six marines in the middle and realized that he could just rush straight away, and not wait for any other units -_-
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3820 Posts
February 16 2012 04:27 GMT
#35
lol @ manner mule!

Nice write up :D
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
February 16 2012 04:42 GMT
#36
Glad that Fionn picked MC though, cuz I want Genius to win!!!
IamPryda
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1186 Posts
February 16 2012 04:44 GMT
#37
sucks that parting has to play drg on crossfire i cant believe that map has lasting this long in the gsl hopefully parting has some crazy build that crushes mutas but i doubt it. pretty much an auto loss unless he gets lucky with some kind of all in build
Moar banelings less qq
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
February 16 2012 04:53 GMT
#38
When will the picture of the crying zealot change? There's guaranteed 1 protoss in the top 4 after all.. : P
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
Footler
Profile Joined January 2010
United States560 Posts
February 16 2012 05:01 GMT
#39
I'm not really so sure the Parting we are about to see will really look much like what we saw vs Nestea/Losira in that qualifier. At the point that he faced those players he had really nothing to gain as he was already qualified for the tournament (being top 8) and showing some of his better PvZ play could be disadvantageous as DRG would be able to analyze and prepare for it.

Or maybe that's just wishful thinking and DRG will handily dispose of Parting. Fortunately, I'm a huge fan of DRG as well :D.
I am The-Sink! Parting bandwagoner before it became a soul train.
Checkm8
Profile Joined March 2011
Japan627 Posts
February 16 2012 05:09 GMT
#40
Fionn! Y U curse MC + DRG? T.T
Regenerating brain cells, please wait - - -
spacemonkeyy
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia477 Posts
February 16 2012 05:13 GMT
#41
Protoss election- may the best troll win
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
February 16 2012 05:15 GMT
#42
On February 16 2012 13:21 Waxangel wrote:
it was not an auto-turret rush, he happened to kill six marines in the middle and realized that he could just rush straight away, and not wait for any other units -_-


I think the Raven was used for PDD to stop any vikings, which would allow him to gain air dominance for his tanks and his banshees can roam freely.

Though, I think Wax's standards are too high... I've yet to see him rate a game 4 or more stars.
Liquipedia"Expert"
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
February 16 2012 05:21 GMT
#43
On February 16 2012 14:15 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 13:21 Waxangel wrote:
it was not an auto-turret rush, he happened to kill six marines in the middle and realized that he could just rush straight away, and not wait for any other units -_-


I think the Raven was used for PDD to stop any vikings, which would allow him to gain air dominance for his tanks and his banshees can roam freely.

Though, I think Wax's standards are too high... I've yet to see him rate a game 4 or more stars
.

yeah, I've seen many good games and he gave them 3 or 3.5 max
kofman
Profile Joined August 2011
Andorra698 Posts
February 16 2012 05:23 GMT
#44
I'm not sure why there is the sad zealot as a picture this season...
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33316 Posts
February 16 2012 05:26 GMT
#45
5/5 for parting vs jjakji last week D:
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BLIZZ123
Profile Joined July 2011
Vietnam54 Posts
February 16 2012 05:30 GMT
#46
yeah! go MC ! go kill Genius then CRUSH ALIVE alive plz. and DRG plz destroy Gumiho. Go DRG! Go MC!
Mikelius
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany517 Posts
February 16 2012 05:33 GMT
#47
On February 16 2012 14:23 kofman wrote:
I'm not sure why there is the sad zealot as a picture this season...


'cuz the 2 protoss hopes get to enjoy eliminating each other?

Damn it Fionn, I wanted MC to win...
Less QQ, more PewPew
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37014 Posts
February 16 2012 05:41 GMT
#48
Why does it say week one and week two previews? They're both done in the same week right? None the less thank you always for these amazing write ups
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Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33316 Posts
February 16 2012 05:53 GMT
#49
On February 16 2012 14:41 Seeker wrote:
Why does it say week one and week two previews? They're both done in the same week right? None the less thank you always for these amazing write ups


fuck, fuucucuck time dilation
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Brootalbro
Profile Joined February 2012
Korea (South)105 Posts
February 16 2012 06:09 GMT
#50
PartinG and Genius will win. Kinda obvious after the predictions
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tdt
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3179 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 06:16:25
February 16 2012 06:14 GMT
#51
I take it OPs don't like heavy aggro early, no wonder MC gets no love in their diction. I thought game 1 was a 5 easy. Just fantastic. I'm not in minority since alive mma G1 was voted around 90% approval...
MC for president
Amornthep
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore2605 Posts
February 16 2012 06:15 GMT
#52
MC fighting!
winthrop
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Hong Kong956 Posts
February 16 2012 06:25 GMT
#53
yea
i like the prediction
Incredible Miracle
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
February 16 2012 06:27 GMT
#54
Parting vs. Genius in the finals ^_____^
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Vlanitak
Profile Joined November 2009
Norway3045 Posts
February 16 2012 06:45 GMT
#55
awesome matches and I get to watch them live
washed
power-overwhelming
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada306 Posts
February 16 2012 06:48 GMT
#56
I love the subtle bias against Protoss. MC prepared ten all in builds in blizzcup? Leenock attempted more all-in vs MC lol..
bustanut
Profile Joined June 2011
United States76 Posts
February 16 2012 06:49 GMT
#57
hahaha i love how you used the dwight howard rejection video
Elurie
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
4716 Posts
February 16 2012 06:51 GMT
#58
Is it possible to have Fionn write the reviews and Waxangel on the previews? Just so Fionn can't curse the already played games.
mint_julep
Profile Joined October 2009
United States254 Posts
February 16 2012 07:02 GMT
#59
On February 16 2012 13:21 Waxangel wrote:
it was not an auto-turret rush, he happened to kill six marines in the middle and realized that he could just rush straight away, and not wait for any other units -_-


Wax,

Not sure if you watched the English (Tasosis) stream, but Artosis mentioned talking to the fnatic coach/manager/something-or-other after that game who specifically said that after practicing this map/build with banshee repeatedly, without success, he switched it up to raven rush /w auto turret and it "worked like a charm".

Whether MMA moving out on the map in a risky way was accounted-for/relied-upon in the build or not, the auto-turret rush was apparently planned as such.
I hope Plexa's sig is right.
ZRand
Profile Joined September 2011
38 Posts
February 16 2012 07:03 GMT
#60
Who does these ratings on the games.... They seem to lower the score just because it's not a long and drawn out macro game or something. That first game with auto-turrets between aLive and MMA should at least get a better rating that random siege tank marine fail timing attack by GuMiho in game 2....

I'm proud to say that I voted for the underdogs both times in the gomtv poll and was correct
Ryukku
Profile Joined November 2010
Singapore545 Posts
February 16 2012 07:07 GMT
#61
DRG FIGHTING!!!!!!!

i dont want to see a PvP finals....
Sackings
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada457 Posts
February 16 2012 07:24 GMT
#62
why is crossfire still in the map pool ....?
naniwa fighting!!!
CTFullstop
Profile Joined August 2011
Hong Kong47 Posts
February 16 2012 07:39 GMT
#63
I think the first game between alive and MMA is worth more than 1 point, the casters were getting pretty excited about the Auto Turret rush and it was creative.
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
February 16 2012 07:44 GMT
#64
On February 16 2012 10:22 TeamLiquid ESPORTS wrote:

The other awesome moment came with Gumiho's off-beat, two base 1/1/1/1 in game three. That strategy was pure three-step Puma:



Oh god, what new crazy strategy is this? . Good write-up and preview though!

DRG fighting!
nRoot
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany928 Posts
February 16 2012 08:12 GMT
#65
What's up with the "low-star-rating" for the aLive games?
I thought they were pretty fun to watch, kinda one sided but still
mrRoflpwn
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2618 Posts
February 16 2012 08:22 GMT
#66
MC!!! hes got this tournament! BELIEVE IN THE OBAMA TOSS!!
Great writeup as usual, though i would actually say DRG is pretty solid in zvp and expect a 3-1 score in his favor.
Long live the Boss Toss!
Myrddraal
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia937 Posts
February 16 2012 08:26 GMT
#67
I really feel like MMA didn't play to his usual standard, I can only assume that the mask he was wearing was due to sickness, even though Tastosis didn't seem to know anything about it and it wasn't mentioned in the write ups. I feel it is something that should be mentioned, not to try to take anything away from Alive's play but MMA just did not seem to be on his game.
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iKill
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Denmark861 Posts
February 16 2012 08:39 GMT
#68
On February 16 2012 16:07 Ryukku wrote:
DRG FIGHTING!!!!!!!

i dont want to see a PvP finals....


At least it'd be a first


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Zvenn3n
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Sweden1196 Posts
February 16 2012 08:39 GMT
#69
I'm so sad I won't be able to watch this =/
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
February 16 2012 09:03 GMT
#70
Go Parting and Go MC. Wow, it feels like it's been so long since I've had Protoss to even cheer for at this level.
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Tobberoth
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden6375 Posts
February 16 2012 09:12 GMT
#71
DRG vs Alive finals would be so sweet.
divinesage
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore649 Posts
February 16 2012 09:14 GMT
#72
Please don't hurt my liquibets anymore, they've taken some serious hurt since the RO16.
Proxy22
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark9 Posts
February 16 2012 09:50 GMT
#73
Genius O_O such brilliant play...
Loganion
Profile Joined January 2012
51 Posts
February 16 2012 10:03 GMT
#74
Come on fionn for real, stop jinxing my fav players >.<
I like turtles
taitanik
Profile Joined December 2011
Latvia231 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 10:41:16
February 16 2012 10:22 GMT
#75
i see ppl need this a lot so pm for free HD restream its on every week
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User was temp banned for this post.
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hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
February 16 2012 10:48 GMT
#76
Genius! :DDDDDD
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
February 16 2012 10:50 GMT
#77
Is Fionn actually the Kim Carrier of Teamliquid? Starting to look like it lol.
ㅇㅅㅌㅅ
Miscellany
Profile Joined September 2011
Wales125 Posts
February 16 2012 11:14 GMT
#78
+ Show Spoiler +
OMG DRG beat the prediction curse, DRG is actually the best player ever.

Good games, a bit one sided though (although in both cases the better player won I feel).
Dingobloo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia1903 Posts
February 16 2012 11:16 GMT
#79
+ Show Spoiler +
Good stuff waxangel, pretty spot on analysis. Partings PvZ was just far too standard and uninteresting and DRG just out played hard.
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
February 16 2012 11:56 GMT
#80
Ro8 day 1 games were so boring >>

I think I'm gonna skip the aLive vs. GuMiho semifinal altogether. Day 2 should be more entertaining though, at least DRG vs. Parting
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Oiseaux
Profile Joined May 2011
United States676 Posts
February 16 2012 12:23 GMT
#81
On February 16 2012 18:14 divinesage wrote:
Please don't hurt my liquibets anymore, they've taken some serious hurt since the RO16.


Yea, this season I've learned to look at my liquibets and say to myself "so who do I think is gonna win this? Ok, vote for the other person." Definitely worked for tonight.
"[S]o be ready to kiss a few donkeys with glued-on paper horns during your unicorn hunt." -Some stupid 4x4 magazine
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 13:19:42
February 16 2012 13:19 GMT
#82
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Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
February 16 2012 15:47 GMT
#83
I think there is someone quite biased about MMA. Give alive the credit for being a monster this season.
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Phays
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden162 Posts
February 16 2012 16:43 GMT
#84
Pretty sad that MMA got knocked out. Credits to aLive though for being baller this season.

Is it only me or was DRGs multitasking so much better than partings?
kubiks
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
France1328 Posts
February 16 2012 17:17 GMT
#85
Fionn I hate you so much >< , was it so hard to predict Genious victory ?

On February 16 2012 20:56 Zato-1 wrote:
Ro8 day 1 games were so boring >>

I think I'm gonna skip the aLive vs. GuMiho semifinal altogether. Day 2 should be more entertaining though, at least DRG vs. Parting


You didn't watch the brakets, did you ?
It's Alive vs Genious and DRG vs Gumiho, thanks god.
I really hope we get a TvZ or TvP finals, that would be great to watch
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crocodile
Profile Joined February 2011
United States615 Posts
February 16 2012 18:29 GMT
#86
It felt like DRG would deal with Parting's mid game strategy really effectively, then just as it seems like he's gonna win with Roach/Ling alone, he's already transitioning and has 13 Mutas in production. WHILE he's rolling him with Roach/Ling. Terrifying how good DRG is.
Master League Terran. Huge fan of Quantic Gaming and ROOTDestiny
hyperknight
Profile Joined May 2011
294 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 18:39:49
February 16 2012 18:37 GMT
#87
only 1.5/5 for aLive vs MMA game #1?

UMAD BRO?

That auto-turret rush is possibly the next most imba build to be discovered O_O Tastosis couldn't believe what they were seeing lol. aLive just replaced MMA as one of the best terrans in my book after that series. The mindgames and the preparations were obvious. aLive destroyed MMA, and MMA didnt even know how to respond. Such a bawss.

I hope we see aLive vs DRG in the finals. It should be really really interesting, especially since aLive wiped out DRG 2-0 in the NASL qualifiers! =) Rooting for aLive to win this GSL =)
"you 6poll?" - aLive to IdrA on NASL Sunday Showmatch, Feb 2012
SilverPotato
Profile Joined July 2010
United States560 Posts
February 16 2012 18:51 GMT
#88
You gave Alive vs MMA g1 a 1.5 -.-

What the hell?
"The ability to learn faster than your competitors may be the only sustainable competitive advantage." ~Arie de Geus
DemonDeacon
Profile Joined February 2012
United States158 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 19:24:00
February 16 2012 19:22 GMT
#89
wa wa wa both games were

+ Show Spoiler +
3-0


: / looking forward to the semi-finals though
gg
1st_Panzer_Div.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States621 Posts
February 16 2012 20:35 GMT
#90
I like the reviews, but how did you not enjoy game 1 MMA vs Alive?

Great creative raven build that utilized Auto-Turret, an exciting and refreshingly different TvT. Probably the best TvT I've seen in ages.
Manager, Team RIP ZeeZ
WackaAlpaca
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada208 Posts
February 16 2012 20:44 GMT
#91
oh god... all the people that thought g1 mma vs alive was a good match...

kinda sad.


mma is sick as hell - like, he looked like he was super ill. He could hardly move much less concentrate on a TvT of all matchups >.>

Also an autoturret rush is nothing new, and anyone who thinks it is, is clearly new to the scene or theory crafted for more than 20 minutes, or hasn't played any team games ever.

Genius for champion.
"
zmansman17
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2567 Posts
February 16 2012 21:28 GMT
#92
Let us not forget that Alive hovers around rank 1 or 2 GM in KR ladder nearly every season. That guy is True Beast mode.
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TheTurk
Profile Joined January 2011
United States732 Posts
February 16 2012 22:44 GMT
#93
:o MMA has been bested?
In TvT no less?
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