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IEM Sao Paulo, (Mostly) As Expected

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IEM Sao Paulo, (Mostly) As Expected

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February 9th, 2012 01:10 GMT
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    Day One: As Expected
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    Day Two Preview
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    Best games of day one
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.01
Day One: (Mostly) As Expected

by Waxangel

Looking at just the big picture, day one of IEM Global Challenge Sao Paulo offered very little in terms of surprises. The most well-known and established players were the ones to advance, with SuperNoVa and DarKFoRcE topping group A, while Feast and DeMusliM won group B. However, there were a few, pleasant surprises to be found in the details.

d.KiLLeR's impressive ZvT

Though KiLLeR just barely failed to make it into the next round, he certainly earned some bragging rights by giving oGs ace SuperNoVa a stiff challenge. KiLLeR was within inches of handing SuperNoVa a shock defeat in his very first game on Antiga Shipyard, where KiLLeR took control of the map and pummeled SuperNoVa with giant waves of units. However, KiLLeR could not find a cost-efficient way to finish SuperNoVa for good, and the Korean Terran bounced off the ropes to land a knock-out blow.

In the second game, KiLLeR showed that game one was no fluke and handily defeated SuperNoVa, giving him his only loss of the day. Good mutalisk use weakened SuperNoVa considerably, and KiLLeR was able to seal the deal with his hive troops that time around.

SuperNoVa had learned his lesson by the final game, and went for harassment and multi-tasking oriented play rather than face KiLLeR in a straight up, brute force battle again. It turned out to be a shrewd plan, as SuperNoVa had a much easier time picking up a victory.

Mill.Feast tops group B

Most people expected DeMuslim and Feast to top group B. The real question was, which one of them would go through as first place? Feast defeated DeMusliM 2 – 0, with an opportunistic blink-stalker open in game one, and with a Shakuras Plateau, map-split, splash damage fest in game two.

Perhaps it wasn't a big surprise to close followers of European scene, who knew Feast to be one of the more dangerous up and comers. But for the Starcraft II viewing audience at large, a big win over an established player such as DeMusliM could be the signal to start paying serious attention to the Belgian Protoss.

Turning bad into good (manner)

There was one more thing to take away from DeMuslim and Feast's showdown in group B. During the games, an unscrupulous stream viewer messaged Feast and informed him of DeMusliM's opening build order (Feast had relogged, and had forgotten to set busy mode again).

Feast immediately paused the game, informed match officials of the situation, and suggested the possibility of a re-game. As the players agreed that it would be okay to continue the game as normal, the following exchange occurred:



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The crowd in Sao Paulo certainly appreciated the show of sportsmanship, and they cheered the players on as they resumed their match.

Brazilian hopes

Host country fans have had a rather mixed IEM experience this season. American fans had something to be proud about as GoSuGatored 3 – 0'd GSL finalist oGs.TOP at IEM New York, while the Ukraine had the honor of being one of the only few countries to make home-field advantage really show up in the standings at IEM Kiev.

However, Sao Paulo looks like it's going the path of IEM Guangzhou so far, where none of the Chinese players made it out of the first round. With Brazil's Tunico going 0 – 3 in set, and 0 – 6 in map scores, it's not a promising start. Potiguar and the last minute addition DakkoN are up tomorrow, but it remains to be seen if they can cause an upset and give the energetic Brazilian audience something to really cheer for.


.02
Day Two Preview: Group C and D

by tree.hugger

Group C

The third group of the tournament, Group C is neither the most difficult, nor the one filled with the most well-known players. But it very well might be the most fun to watch. All four of these players are either relatively unknown, possess fun playstyles, or both. Because of this, it's going to be a bit hard to judge objectively. Also, the match-ups this group will be solely PvP, ZvZ, and PvZ, the three weirdest in the game. All of this makes this group my favorite of the entire tournament. I love surprises, and I love up-and-coming players.

The player to watch in this group is ch (Z)mouz.biGs. Well known in the EU scene, biGs got his chance at international recognition when he was picked up last year by Mousesports. It was an interesting addition at the time. Few doubted the promise biGs was showing, and it was considered a clever pick-up by Mousesports. At the same time, the EU scene had, and still has, an embarrassing wealth of Zerg talent. Two players who were perhaps just below biGs in strength last September are here at this event (sLivko and Snute) making this a crucial proving ground for the Swiss-Korean player. While he has gotten Mousesports several wins in team leagues and has even jumped HasuObs in the depth chart in recent matches, major tournament wins or qualifications have largely eluded him. biGs is not a minnow in this group, but his ZvP is orthodox and not particularly strong. His ZvZ is somewhat better, but by no means a specialty. All told, this may prove to be an unfortunate group for biGs. He deserves a major result, but to get it here, he'll need to pull off at least a small surprise.

That might come against kr (Z)Empire.viOLet. The Korean has done extremely well in the foreign scene after an awkward exit after just a single Code S season in Korea. Since coming over and living in Texas, he's dominated the EU ladder with an 80% win rate, set records for Playhem Daily wins, placed first in the MLG EU qualifier, and bagged an impressive fourth place finish at the Homestory Cup 4. All of that puts him as one of the favorites for the entire event. But he's still vulnerable, and if he loses, biGs will probably be the one that hands him that loss. For all of the options that are present in SC2 ZvZ, it is that much more volatile. It is also been viOlet's worst MU outside of Korea (oddly it was his best in GSL). However, should viOlet drop the set to biGs, he still has ZvP to fall back on, a match-up at which he has been consistently brilliant. In contrast to the Mousesports zerg, viOlet is unorthodox every chance he gets, and his ZvP is filled with schenanigans like nydus worms and hidden bases. ZvP is his best MU at the moment, and I doubt the two remaining members of the group will be able to handle it.

The first, and undoubtedly the more well known and regarded of those two is kr (P)TypeReaL, another Korean transplant, but this time to Germany. He was hugely underwhelming at Dreamhack, but suddenly looked like a serious contender at HomeStory Cup 4. Which of the two ReaLs to believe? The most convincing explaination is to place him somewhere in the middle. While there might be a path deep into the bracket in São Paulo, he won't bulldoze his way there. Don't expect a HomeStory repeat, but he'll be a favorite to edge his group. A good recent skillcheck was his 2-3 loss to TLO in the Heat Charity Invitational. In beating Tarson and Grubby both by 2-0 scores, he was impressive, but in the finals he was beaten by a creative and solid Zerg, a style that in some respects comparable to viOlet's. A recent loss to Bly in the Zotac Monthly Final isn't the biggest confidence booster either. So it's likely that it will come down to biGs vs ReaL for the second place in this group, unless we can get a memorable upset from...

br (P)KEYDPotiguar. The second of three Brazilian representatives at São Paulo, Potiguar is the country's best Protoss, and along with Tunico, perhaps its most dangerous player. In a group with two Korean ex-pats and a European Zerg, he's a steep underdog, but it'll be fun to see what he can pull out. Potiguar's PvP has never delivered him good results, but his PvZ can be quite deadly. A good user midgame gateway timings backed up by intelligent forcefields, Potiguar switches up his PvZ with weird mass-air builds that are entertaining, and occasionally effective. There's quite a bit to like about Potiguar in fact, which will make his international tournament debut all the more exciting, but his lack of experience against this calibre of opponent makes it difficult to see him advancing. On a purely personal note, he's the player I'll be cheering for.


Group D

As if IEM São Paulo didn't have enough Zergs, there needed to be a group completely full of them. It hasn't always been this way, but by now it's practically become an IEM ritual: someone (Fenix) dropped out at the last moment, and the nearest and most plausible replacement happened to be a Zerg. br (Z)DakkoN will be filling in, his credentials being a quarter-final finish at the South American Qualifier won by Fenix, KiLLeR and Potiguar. I honestly know very little about DakkoN, beyond a few scattered videos on youtube, and his Liquipedia page, which has been helpfully updated with a single picture that looks right out of a fashion catalog. Against three elite ZvZ players from Europe, and on less than 24 hours notice, I'd be surprised if he took a single game. But the guaranteed $600 that essentially dropped from the sky, and the awesome experience of simply playing in an event like this ought to smooth things over.

The departure of Fenix leaves this group as a three man race between two up-and-coming players and one of the scene's most established and absolute best. The latter player, and the group favorite is nl (Z)Liquid`Ret. He's unquestionably one of the top foreign Zerg players, and has probably the best chance of anyone in São Paulo of preventing a SuperNoVa win. Before that can even get the chance to happen, Ret will need to get out of this group. It doesn't help that ZvZ is still a bit of a shot in the dark, and that Ret's ZvZ has always been his least solid match-up. But recently, the dutchman has given his fans a little more to be confident about. In taking second place in the MLG EU qualifier, he beat sLivko 2-0, and beat viOlet 2-0 as well... before losing 0-4 to viOlet in the finals. So that's both a positive and a concern. But regardless, Ret seems more confident in ZvZ than he's ever been before, and as long as he stays focused and doesn't look ahead of his group, he should go through it.

Speaking of [image loading] (Z)RoX.KiSsLivko, the Russian Zerg has been steadily improving and logging better results for a while now. Like many of the other competitors at Sao Paulo, this will be his first real opportunity to prove himself (a previous trip to ESWC didn't go so well, and we'll give him a mulligan). He should be happy about the idea of an all ZvZ group, but less excited about the other Zergs, two of whom he has lost to quite recently. His overall ZvZ record has also slipped this year, although he did beat Stephano in January to put himself in position to qualify for this event. Ultimately, this tournament might come as a case of bad timing for sLivko. He has become better known and much better regarded quite quickly, but in turn, his playstyle has become more familiar to other top pros. It's a strange transitional period from surprise participant to established contender, and it might give him issues this week. He has the talent to advance, but in a talented group, he's seemed the least in-form.

Finally, this group holds no (Z)GLSnute, whom I profiled back in our Year in Review article as a player to watch in 2012. Having missed out on Kiev and São Paulo by narrow margins in the qualifiers, he was one of the last additions to this event, filling the two un-taken Korean spots along with sLivko. It's no secret that I think Snute is one of the fastest improving and most underrated players in the world right now, and I have a soft spot in my heart for the quirky Norwegian. I'd love to see his 2012 journey begin with a great performance in Brazil, and there's definitely a lot going for it. Snute feels most comfortable in ZvZ, and he's been on a good streak recently. He and sLivko are somewhat rivals, and after many defeats at the hands of his Russian counterpart, Snute finally stuck back with a clear 2-0 victory in a recent EU weekly cup. Having already traveled to Korea for WCG, Snute has a clearer picture of what traveling to non-european events is like, and should have an experience edge over everyone but Ret. However, plenty can still go wrong. This group is most likely to come down to the sLivko vs Snute battle, and that's too close to make a good call on. So anything can happen, perhaps Snute with a small advantage, but it feels like a 50/50 chance.

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Best games of day one

Replays can be downloaded at ESL World.

Spoilers ahead!



Korea vs World hope games: KiLLeR vs SuperNoVa, Game 1, Game 2

If you stripped the names from these games and just watched them in a total vacuum, you probably couldn't tell which of the players came from a country with over ten years of RTS history, where the best players in the world practice for an absurd amount of hours a day -- and which player kind of stopped playing for a few weeks because he was pissed about having spent 40 hours in airplanes due to a visa mess-up.


North American hope game: Illusion vs DarkFoRcE, Game 2

No one expected Illusion to come out of nowhere and be completely awesome at his first big live event. Alas, all of us North Americans truly hoped. This is the best game Illusion played at IEM Sao Paulo, the one we can cling to for a little longer.


ZvZ is 'watchable' game: KiLLeR vs DarkFoRcE, Game 2

There were ultralisks in this game, is that enough?


Whine about PvT balance game: Feast vs DeMusliM, Game 2

DeMusliM played very well for most of this game on Shakuras f***ing Plateau, doing enough economic and army damage to give himself a nice supply lead heading into the map-split late game phase. However, he let Feast recover enough to secure three bases and make a ton of units that do splash damage. Feast actually forgot to get colossi range, but it didn't really matter. He pressed the T key a bunch of times, and stuff seemed to die. A mystery, I know.







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Writers: tree.hugger and Waxangel.
Graphics and layout: Meko.
Editor: WaxAngel.


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susySquark
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1692 Posts
February 09 2012 01:17 GMT
#2
He pressed the T key a bunch of times, and stuff seemed to die. A mystery, I know.


I've heard this statement from BOTH sides of the matchup, haha.

Great writeup. Looking forward to seeing Ret smash face tomorrow, after he tore through the MLG qualifier
Sagamantha
Profile Joined September 2011
United States339 Posts
February 09 2012 01:18 GMT
#3
Looking forward to tomorrow, and as Wax and tree said, today was quite entertaining!
trueCOMEHfan [16:21] <Qbek> hey sagamama [16:21] <Qbek> you ain;t targe bad
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
February 09 2012 01:19 GMT
#4
So Feast is both amazing at the game, and very well mannered... Its getting almost impossible to not like him :D
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33304 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 01:22:15
February 09 2012 01:19 GMT
#5
Some things SA was better at than NA before today: Not-English, Football (soccer), using the entirety of animals in delicious cuisine.

New item added as of today: Starcraft II
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
February 09 2012 01:20 GMT
#6
Didn't Violet win the MLG EU Qualifiers from the LB?
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Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
February 09 2012 01:23 GMT
#7
I'm glad that this IEM is in South America as it is introducing me more to the scene down there.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Tommeeh
Profile Joined November 2010
Norway10 Posts
February 09 2012 01:23 GMT
#8
Snute fighting! He's sooo good at zvz, I really hope he'll do well this tourny. Get his name out there
In the name of Terran, of Zerg and Protoss, APM
flowSthead
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1065 Posts
February 09 2012 01:24 GMT
#9
On February 09 2012 10:17 susySquark wrote:
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He pressed the T key a bunch of times, and stuff seemed to die. A mystery, I know.


I've heard this statement from BOTH sides of the matchup, haha.

Great writeup. Looking forward to seeing Ret smash face tomorrow, after he tore through the MLG qualifier


Nice catch, hahaha. That didn't even occur to me. I did really enjoy DeMuslim and Feast's conversation where Feast has a good variety of units (sentries, zealots, stalkers) and DeMuslim has 16 marines.
"You can be creative but I will crush it under the iron fist of my conservative play." - Liquid`Tyler █ MVP ■ MC ■ Boxer ■ Grubby █
SASBC
Profile Joined February 2012
Brazil101 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 01:25:20
February 09 2012 01:24 GMT
#10
I honestly know very little about DakkoN, beyond a few scattered videos on youtube, and his Liquipedia page, which has been helpfully updated with a single picture that looks right out of a fashion catalog.

HAHAHAHAHA

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SASBC
Profile Joined February 2012
Brazil101 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 01:30:03
February 09 2012 01:29 GMT
#11
Famous brazilian website about general news makes an article about the brazilian players in this tournament. I used Google Translator so you guys can understand, http://translate.google.com.br/translate?sl=pt&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=pt-BR&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http://g1.globo.com/tecnologia/noticia/2012/02/na-campus-party-brasil-desafia-supremacia-coreana-em-starcraft.html&act=url

(keep refreshing it up in case doesnt work for the first time)

Original arcticle - http://g1.globo.com/tecnologia/noticia/2012/02/na-campus-party-brasil-desafia-supremacia-coreana-em-starcraft.html

LeapofFaith
Profile Joined November 2011
United States446 Posts
February 09 2012 01:34 GMT
#12
Go Ret! :D
The Final Boss
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1839 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 01:40:41
February 09 2012 01:37 GMT
#13
SuperNoVa hwaiting! Even though he's the favorite (and I love to root for the underdog + Show Spoiler +
STX for life
), I'm really excited to see such a talented player in a foreign event. I can't imagine him losing to be brutally honest, but I don't really know much about ReaL's PvT. viOLet might have a shot, but I don't think his ZvT is quite at the caliber of a Code S player who is considered one of the best TvZers. Hoping for DeMu vs SuperNoVa, as that would be an epic TvT series.

Also, that bit about Feast's sportsmanship is pretty impressive. Watching videos of IdrA or NaNi raging is fun, but nothing beats a display of true sportsmanship.
Soap
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Brazil1546 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 02:20:32
February 09 2012 01:41 GMT
#14
On February 09 2012 10:29 SASBC wrote:
Famous brazilian website about general news makes an article about the brazilian players in this tournament. I used Google Translator so you guys can understand, http://translate.google.com.br/translate?sl=pt&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=pt-BR&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http://g1.globo.com/tecnologia/noticia/2012/02/na-campus-party-brasil-desafia-supremacia-coreana-em-starcraft.html&act=url

(keep refreshing it up in case doesnt work for the first time)

Original arcticle - http://g1.globo.com/tecnologia/noticia/2012/02/na-campus-party-brasil-desafia-supremacia-coreana-em-starcraft.html



That's just the news portal of the world's fourth largest broadcasting network.

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At Campus Party, Brazil challenges korean supremacy in 'Starcraft'

Event in SP will count as stage of world tournament of the game
Qualifiers wiil decide the title next march, in Germany

The ability in "Starcraft II", Blizzard's strategy game, isn't measured by intelligence or will to play of the cyberathlete. To have a shot at winning a match of the game, a kind of electronic chess, one needs to have a high rate of "Actions per Minute" or APM, as said by competitors on the title.

On this sport, the domination is south korean, country where the game is taken so seriously that competitions are shown on primetime TV, and it's virtual athletes manage to do 400 APM. "I can do 200 APM", tells Vitor Ferreira, 27 years old who lives in Belo Horizonte, one of the brazilians who have the difficult task to win against the easterners in the last qualifying stage of the Intel Extreme Masters, going until saturday (11), at Campus Party, in Sao Paulo.

The competition happens in various countries of the world throughout the year and, according to a ranking, selects the best cyberathletes to the finals, which will be played next march in Germany. "Since the last qualifying event is in Brazil, players from the whole world are here to try to win and get a spot", says Aderson Jamier, 27 years old, from Natal.

The winner of this stage takes a prize of US$ 6500. In the world finals, the prize gets to US$ 21000. The favorites for the brazilian title are the south koreans Kim Young Jin, who plays with the nickname SuperNoVA, and Kim Dong Hwan, who's known as viOLet.

Ferreira and Jamier, alongside Renan Guilhem da Silva, 19 years old, are the three brazilian representatives in the competition. "I study and was on vacation, so I could train a lot, up to five hours a day", says Guilhem, who lives in Jundiai (SP) and studies Systems Analysis. "To train, the best is to play against other players through the internet".

Now Jamier says that, near to competitions like this one at Campus Party, the training gets up to 7 hours. "I have strategy games in my blood, I play since the first 'Starcraft', from the nineties".

Fight against the koreans
The three brazilians - Ferreira was called tuesday (7) to compete after the withdrawal of a peruvian athlete - believe they can go far in the battle. "I expect to reach the semifinals and be amongst the best four", says Jamier

Ferreira, who knew he would compete a day before, says since then he has been "eating the computer"."I started to train hurriedly and hope for a good result. I come more relaxed. If i lose, it wasn't my fault, was because of lack of training". He says he's cheerful and does not expect to get very far. "I want to take advantage of playing with my idols, who I only see on TV, and learn from them", says, explaining what matters is to learn from the play of the south koreans.

"When I saw the south koreans arriving here at the event, the heart started beating harder from nervousness", says Guilhem. "They are very strong, but I'll try to set my game to surprise". With a lot of modesty, he says it would be a good personal result to go past the group stage.

The three agree that because the south korean players are the favourites, more important than winning against them is to learn from them. This way, the brazilian cyberathlentes will analyse the tactics, playstyle, speed of the APMs [sic] and how they use the different races of "StarCraft II".


I had to have a long laugh after finishing, but go easy on the guys, it's clear the journalist has no clue about what he's writing, anything can sound atrocious pulled out of context.
RoninShogun
Profile Joined November 2010
United States315 Posts
February 09 2012 01:45 GMT
#15
Supernova certainly followed through so that was good
classic Demuslim Feast though
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snively
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1159 Posts
February 09 2012 01:47 GMT
#16
ive got my money on supernova, and my heart on real :D
My religion is Starcraft
HydraFucaZ
Profile Joined May 2011
104 Posts
February 09 2012 01:54 GMT
#17
clantag on slivko and ret, but not snute? he has a team too you know !
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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
February 09 2012 01:58 GMT
#18
Whine about PvT balance game: Feast vs DeMusliM, Game 2

DeMusliM played very well for most of this game on Shakuras f***ing Plateau, doing enough economic and army damage to give himself a nice supply lead heading into the map-split late game phase. However, he let Feast recover enough to secure three bases and make a ton of units that do splash damage. Feast actually forgot to get colossi range, but it didn't really matter. He pressed the T key a bunch of times, and stuff seemed to die. A mystery, I know.


I lol'd and I don't even get the joke. What's T for protoss? Templar? sTorm?
FreudianTrip
Profile Joined July 2011
Switzerland1983 Posts
February 09 2012 02:06 GMT
#19
On February 09 2012 10:58 red4ce wrote:
Show nested quote +
Whine about PvT balance game: Feast vs DeMusliM, Game 2

DeMusliM played very well for most of this game on Shakuras f***ing Plateau, doing enough economic and army damage to give himself a nice supply lead heading into the map-split late game phase. However, he let Feast recover enough to secure three bases and make a ton of units that do splash damage. Feast actually forgot to get colossi range, but it didn't really matter. He pressed the T key a bunch of times, and stuff seemed to die. A mystery, I know.


I lol'd and I don't even get the joke. What's T for protoss? Templar? sTorm?


Storm.
Galfi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Brazil56 Posts
February 09 2012 02:11 GMT
#20
lmao at dakkoN's pic!

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Acronysis
Profile Joined November 2011
872 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-09 02:20:42
February 09 2012 02:19 GMT
#21
On February 09 2012 10:20 pdd wrote:
Didn't Violet win the MLG EU Qualifiers from the LB?


What this guy said

+ Show Spoiler +
Ret originally beat him 2-0 in the WB, but Violet bounced back and beat Thorzain 2-1, and faced against ret again where he started 0-2, but won 4 straight games and took first place.


Edit: i see that you know fixed it =), thanks heh
The multiplying villanies of man do swarm upon him.
yeaR
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom100 Posts
February 09 2012 02:24 GMT
#22
Lol at DaKKons liquipedia page.
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
February 09 2012 02:28 GMT
#23
I honestly know very little about DakkoN, beyond a few scattered videos on youtube, and his Liquipedia page, which has been helpfully updated with a single picture that looks right out of a fashion catalog.


ahaha
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
Rhodon
Profile Joined July 2011
United States51 Posts
February 09 2012 02:34 GMT
#24
Dakkons pic... ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
All a man needs is to love and to be loved
ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
February 09 2012 02:40 GMT
#25
Dakkon in BW used to be a good player, he won against Reason some BoX series IIRC

dunno about him in SC2 thou
Part of the inhumanity of the computer is that, once it is competently programmed and working smoothly, it is completely honest.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
February 09 2012 02:40 GMT
#26
The crowd deserve a mention, it was awesome.
And Killer was impressive, very sad he didn't advanced.
mtmf
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Brazil420 Posts
February 09 2012 02:41 GMT
#27
Wait... What?
Is this DakkoN the same one who is organizing Barcraft BH???
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=308783
Are we still having the Barcraft?
(–_–)
Xiphiasar
Profile Joined April 2010
United States78 Posts
February 09 2012 02:41 GMT
#28
On February 09 2012 10:37 The Final Boss wrote:
Hoping for DeMu vs SuperNoVa, as that would be an epic TvT series.


No it wouldn't. SuperNoVa would tear him apart. I'm hoping for Ret vs SuperNoVa.
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
February 09 2012 02:45 GMT
#29
It's funny that (P)ReaL is Brazil's currency.
ॐ
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 09 2012 02:52 GMT
#30
Great manner and sportsmanship from Feast. Really made me a big fan, and I hope he goes far. He's one of the new rising stars of Europe and the foreign scene.
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Pocky52
Profile Joined November 2011
United States463 Posts
February 09 2012 03:45 GMT
#31
yup, mostly as expected, so I'm excited to watch ret dominate his group tomorrow!
Yaqoob
Profile Blog Joined March 2005
Canada3319 Posts
February 09 2012 03:54 GMT
#32
On February 09 2012 11:11 Galfi wrote:
lmao at dakkoN's pic!

suihefusahyefushfe

Dakkon used to be in my clan in BW and as far as I know he is a male model in Brazil lol
김택용 Fighting!
cyclonous
Profile Joined May 2011
United States55 Posts
February 09 2012 03:56 GMT
#33
Wow wax, this is seriously one of the best and funniest summaries I have read on TL, great job, and kudos to DeMuslim and Feast, hard not to love those two, but my fave is still feast (brotoss baby!)
CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
February 09 2012 04:05 GMT
#34
Demuslim is so incredibly awesome <3~
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
February 09 2012 04:20 GMT
#35
Feast is such a boss. Was a good day of Starcraft overall!
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
February 09 2012 04:30 GMT
#36
Feast has certainly made a fan out of me with such sportsmanship, something that is so lacking. It's hard to pick who I want to win it, Supernova, Ret, Darkforce or Feast.....
elwoodng
Profile Joined August 2011
Singapore438 Posts
February 09 2012 05:02 GMT
#37
Mad props to Feast, my respect for him just went up a notch.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
February 09 2012 05:12 GMT
#38
Impressed by Feast, not just his gameplay but his sportsmanship ^^
Long live the King of Wings
TearsOfTheSun
Profile Joined March 2006
Canada995 Posts
February 09 2012 05:14 GMT
#39
LOL! the Feast Demu thing is so awesome!
Dixer_ca^^ | Polt | Byun | MKP | DRG | White-Ra | Beastyqt | Maru | Creator
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
February 09 2012 05:54 GMT
#40
awesome writeup Love TL coverage!
MVTaylor
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2893 Posts
February 09 2012 07:23 GMT
#41
I can't work out at all how the Quarter Finals are determined...

Pre-Set Group A winner vs Group B second etc etc
Randomly drawn Group first vs Group Second
Completely random draw of all eight qualifiers

If it's the first one then... welp, DeMu
@followMVT
MrMongo
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany64 Posts
February 09 2012 08:00 GMT
#42
On February 09 2012 16:23 mvtaylor wrote:
I can't work out at all how the Quarter Finals are determined...

Pre-Set Group A winner vs Group B second etc etc
Randomly drawn Group first vs Group Second
Completely random draw of all eight qualifiers

If it's the first one then... welp, DeMu


I think it's by random draw. At least that did that last IEM in Kiev.
Kiwiandapple
Profile Joined March 2011
Belgium240 Posts
February 09 2012 08:02 GMT
#43
wait, am i seeing this? incontrol, we all love you too buddy! ♥
great write up - still abit sad about illusion, but its no mather great for him + he went to a freaking convention center or whatever. instead of going to school, awesome life when your 15.
Don't worry, that's halo!
megid
Profile Joined November 2011
Brazil142 Posts
February 09 2012 08:07 GMT
#44
Man, wtf the DakkoN picture, this is madness ! (and shame)
Anw, Potiguar is rly a top tier, he managed to defeat killer and so many other players on the ladder usually, his weakness is the lack of experience in great tournaments.
About zergs, Dakkon is not impressive in my opinion, KTReasoN certainly could be a better choice to replace Fenix, but he was tired because of WCG and the travel, so he preferred not participate at the qualifiers.
There's a lot of complainings at the brazilian forums about the tournament organization and a very likely fostering at the DakkoN's choice, $600 from nowhere and another things. I really don't know if it's true, but i'm hyped to see this matchs, if DakkoN really get some wins and surprise everyone, will be quite funny ! Hype machine is ON.
AbuHamze
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany15 Posts
February 09 2012 08:49 GMT
#45
IEM Sao Paulo? Nigger please.

User was temp banned for this post.
Blek
Profile Joined December 2010
Brazil38 Posts
February 09 2012 08:58 GMT
#46
Jesus Christ, where did they find that pic on Dakkon's Liquipedia page? I've got some pretty embarassing questions to ask him when he's back, lol.
Krogan
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden375 Posts
February 09 2012 09:13 GMT
#47
It is rather interesting how shit the emp aim of terrans seem to be, its like they are completely unable to use it now that it doesn't cover half the screen.
Creager
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1889 Posts
February 09 2012 09:23 GMT
#48
haha nice troll there, but when I first read it, I thought of just a-click since in grid-style it actually is attack-move... but I guess that's pretty much the same ;>
... einmal mit Profis spielen!
Frankon
Profile Joined May 2010
3054 Posts
February 09 2012 09:30 GMT
#49
DakkoN will be picked up by prime in the near future.
Not sure if he will be picked as a player or a model. We will see it after today maybe
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
February 09 2012 09:45 GMT
#50
On February 09 2012 16:23 mvtaylor wrote:
I can't work out at all how the Quarter Finals are determined...

Pre-Set Group A winner vs Group B second etc etc
Randomly drawn Group first vs Group Second
Completely random draw of all eight qualifiers

If it's the first one then... welp, DeMu


first they draw the position on the bracket for the Group winners, then they draw Group seconds, but that way, that they can only be on the other side than the winner from the same group (this is the perfect system to get random brackets, but players from same group can't meet until finals)

e.g.
Winner C
Winner A
Winner B
Winner D

Then C and A, will play second from B & D (randomly drawn), ...
Mentalizor
Profile Joined January 2011
Denmark1596 Posts
February 09 2012 10:42 GMT
#51
Even though the DeMusliM - Feast incident made the opening game kind of weird it was so nice to see such honesty and sportsmanship from both players. I'd prefer a rematch, but seeing how the game progressed it turned out to be a great game swinging back and forth without Feast having obvious info advantages.
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Vash_SC2
Profile Joined January 2012
United States122 Posts
February 09 2012 11:02 GMT
#52
Like why???? Do people try so hard to ruin games? It just blows my mind how many childish people there are in this community. Maybe there isn't that many, but it's so hard to ignore the morons...zzzzzzz
"Own-ed" - CatZ
MBH
Profile Joined January 2011
Ireland796 Posts
February 09 2012 11:20 GMT
#53
I really like that you guys now write more pre- and reviews even summarizing only one day of a tournament and not writing a summary a week later or so, kkep thats up, reaqlly good stuff.

I'm not really looking forward to today though, I dont think I can endure an entire group of ZvZ...
monkeycid
Profile Joined May 2006
Sweden44 Posts
February 09 2012 11:42 GMT
#54
Excellent writeup! At present I don't really have the time to watch, but it's great to be able to follow the scene through more than just the numbers.
woot!
robih
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria1086 Posts
February 09 2012 12:06 GMT
#55
demuslim srsly didnt play impressive
he played mediocre at best
he beat the brasilian player which was kinda obvious
xlord gave both games away with key supplyblocks that cost him the game

if demuslim plays like this in ro8 he is gonna get facesmashed 3:0
DrN0
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom184 Posts
February 09 2012 12:22 GMT
#56
I edited Dakkon's liquipedia page as it mentioned him as a protoss player but that photo is pretty funny. Good write up, although I think it is worth noting that + Show Spoiler +
Demuslim lost his seat against Feast because he over extended and through away an advantage in both games.
blobo23
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom8 Posts
February 09 2012 13:08 GMT
#57
I wanted Illusion to do much better than he did, but what can you expect from somebody new to offline tournies and somebody who is not only jetlagged but was up half the night playing MLG qualifiers, could really see his fatigue in his games.

But its the day of the ret today, and ill have my little ret flag out(jkjk) and be cheering for the King of Drones. Aftering see how well dKilleR did against SuperNoVa i am actually curious to see whether Ret can do anything to him, and obviously if Feast does a performance similar to against MMA in Kiev we could see and upset considering MMA > SuperNova but for a bit of that Quater Final in Kiev Feast > MMA. So. FEAST AND RET FIGHTING.
"That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence." - Christopher Hitchens
Acronysis
Profile Joined November 2011
872 Posts
February 09 2012 13:40 GMT
#58
I think my favorite part about the whole Feast - Demusilm game was the way Feast reacted. As soon as it happened you just see "wtfff" lol. you could really tell how annoying/pissed he was having it happen. Good guy though. Felt kind of bad for Demuslim though since he mentioned he had a specific build he wanted to do for the map, but I'd say Feast paid him back nicely by giving him his exact unit count build XD Great stuff to see.
The multiplying villanies of man do swarm upon him.
Atoissen
Profile Joined July 2011
Norway1737 Posts
February 09 2012 13:48 GMT
#59
Nice writeup as always, gogo Snute! <3
“Strength lies not in defense but in attack.”
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
February 09 2012 13:53 GMT
#60
DARKFORCE GOGO!!! You can do it! Crush these boons!
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Reini
Profile Joined January 2011
19 Posts
February 09 2012 14:36 GMT
#61
btw are quanchi and deathgun still around in the Brazilian community? They were pretty good in dawn of war especially at the WCG.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
February 09 2012 15:04 GMT
#62
Nice (p)review. Ret hwaiting!
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
February 09 2012 15:09 GMT
#63
Nice writeup
As far as the game between Demusil & Feast goes, it was unfortunate, but it turned out alright in the end, and it was really manner and funny as well... I hope the balance whine was a troll though, given that Demuslim completly through that game away with terrible micro.
TheTurk
Profile Joined January 2011
United States732 Posts
February 09 2012 15:12 GMT
#64
I thought it was obvious that Feast would be #1 in group?
Also why is it a surprise that d.killer is really good?
The SC2 goers of this era have so much tunnel vision.
Eyes are always to be kept open.

Also the good manner is really awesome.
Starcraft is a lifestyle.
aLmosTeu
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany101 Posts
February 09 2012 15:34 GMT
#65
Demuslim <3
DeaDoXFighting
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada115 Posts
February 09 2012 16:28 GMT
#66
Violet fighting gogo!
Go Liquid Hero !!!!!
89andy
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada192 Posts
February 09 2012 16:30 GMT
#67
On February 10 2012 00:12 TheTurk wrote:
I thought it was obvious that Feast would be #1 in group?
Also why is it a surprise that d.killer is really good?
The SC2 goers of this era have so much tunnel vision.
Eyes are always to be kept open.

Also the good manner is really awesome.



lol. obvious that feast would be #1. Then complains that people have tunnel vision.
Paraiba
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil217 Posts
February 09 2012 17:00 GMT
#68
Dakkon so dreamy *__*
InFi.asc
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany518 Posts
February 09 2012 19:33 GMT
#69
thanks for the write up !

I have one tiny issue

please don't put

Read bottom to top


at the bottom :D put it on top
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tritonice
Profile Joined November 2010
United States119 Posts
February 09 2012 19:55 GMT
#70
I hope the "unscrupulous" viewer suddenly finds out that his SC2 account is banned for all eternity by Blizzard. That's not BM, that's so much worse than BM. Kudos to the players and the officials for a great response.

Thanks for all of the write-ups!!!
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
February 09 2012 19:57 GMT
#71
On February 10 2012 04:33 InFi.asc wrote:
thanks for the write up !

I have one tiny issue

please don't put

Show nested quote +
Read bottom to top


at the bottom :D put it on top
that's the joke
#freeshauni
Flamingo777
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1190 Posts
February 09 2012 23:26 GMT
#72
I love seeing good manners like this prevail, such as seen in the DeMuslim/Feast game.
rocharlzz
Profile Joined February 2012
Brazil1 Post
February 09 2012 23:50 GMT
#73
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/138/41988629995454339494510.jpg/

LiquidRet at IEM São Paulo. Brazilian respect!
ProBot
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada170 Posts
February 10 2012 00:04 GMT
#74
Is it just me or does Rob need to be casting outside of doing the odd event for Blizzard
Wampaibist
Profile Joined July 2010
United States478 Posts
February 10 2012 03:19 GMT
#75
yeah i really like rob
TypeLex
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany62 Posts
February 10 2012 06:35 GMT
#76
TypeReaL and the res of the team performance was bad at DreamHack due to bad planning on the management side.
We book the wrong bus an the whole team had to wait all day for the bus while it was very cold, they finally got a bus at 3:00am but it arrived 5km from their hotel, they at to wait another 50mins in the cold until they got a taxi to the hotel.

All in all, none got sleep and they went straight into their games.
I'm the one to blame as I was in Japan setting up Type Japan and did not invest enough time in planning for DH.

That's our story of DreamHack and we've learnt from it, our plans are now much better when joining each event.


GL to ReaL in ro8!
In memory of Type Gaming www.typesc.net
Teodice
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden641 Posts
February 10 2012 07:20 GMT
#77
Sad to see Snute finishing third in group. Probably those tournament nerves got to him. He's probably the best Zerg we currently got here up north! Hopefully he will be sent to more events during 2012. Norwegian zerg fighting!
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