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Odds and Ends 10/7/2011 - Page 9

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MiKTeX
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States234 Posts
October 10 2011 09:00 GMT
#161
awesome read! thanks, milkis! ^^
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
October 10 2011 10:00 GMT
#162
Should do project A season 2 with Nal_Ra!

Yea Kang Min!
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50637 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-10 13:23:31
October 10 2011 13:23 GMT
#163
On October 10 2011 19:00 SenorChang wrote:
Should do project A season 2 with Nal_Ra!

Yea Kang Min!


ever heard of oldboy?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
October 10 2011 15:18 GMT
#164
On October 10 2011 22:23 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 19:00 SenorChang wrote:
Should do project A season 2 with Nal_Ra!

Yea Kang Min!


ever heard of oldboy?


Old boy was much more fun
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
GG_NO_RE
Profile Joined October 2009
Japan238 Posts
October 10 2011 15:51 GMT
#165
please please make it a regular thing! thanks so much.

and omg.. SHOCKu at chin-less pictures
Shuray
Profile Joined July 2008
Brazil642 Posts
October 10 2011 16:50 GMT
#166
Thanks Milkis!
Mind looks a lot different after the surgery I have to say.
Nal_rA to SC2 would be huge! As a player, of course.
Muffinman53
Profile Joined November 2010
571 Posts
October 10 2011 16:52 GMT
#167
Thanks for the updates, Milkis. Great work as always <3
bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
October 10 2011 17:25 GMT
#168
I remember joking about Stats and Mind's chin all the time over irc with other TL guys, didn't know that it was an actual defect that needs to be corrected.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper is a genius. For man to survive, they need toilet paper!"- Nal_rA
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
October 10 2011 18:15 GMT
#169
thanks milkis!!!!

rip mind and stats' chins =(
posting on liquid sites in current year
Jongl0
Profile Joined June 2011
631 Posts
October 10 2011 19:40 GMT
#170
Really liking this format, wouldn't mind seeing more of it in the future.
ArchDC
Profile Joined May 2011
Malaysia1996 Posts
October 10 2011 20:05 GMT
#171
On October 11 2011 00:18 Sawamura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 22:23 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On October 10 2011 19:00 SenorChang wrote:
Should do project A season 2 with Nal_Ra!

Yea Kang Min!


ever heard of oldboy?


Old boy was much more fun


Ya agree. Project A was good, but old boy was so much better. Probably because of Nal_Ra. He is just damn funny and passionate. It also shows how insanely competitive BW is.
conTAgi0n
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States335 Posts
October 10 2011 21:25 GMT
#172
Really really hope that 8th team works out, dream team or not. Any kind of growth, really, would be very encouraging, as opposed to just hoping it doesn't shrink further.

Thanks as always Milkis, very appreciative of the translations.
TheTurk
Profile Joined January 2011
United States732 Posts
October 10 2011 22:16 GMT
#173
I think some super rich team should pay flash a shitload of cash to switch to SC2. He would pay for himself in a couple of GSL wins anyway.
Starcraft is a lifestyle.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
October 10 2011 22:36 GMT
#174
Flash would not tarnish his reputation like that.
Rostam
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2552 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-11 01:05:47
October 11 2011 01:04 GMT
#175
On October 09 2011 12:28 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
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On October 08 2011 23:40 Rostam wrote:
On October 08 2011 18:39 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:
On October 08 2011 15:48 GTR wrote:
On October 08 2011 15:47 Kipsate wrote:
On October 08 2011 15:38 Ciryandor wrote:
On October 08 2011 15:28 Bodhi wrote:
If this injury slows Flash down will he switch to SC2?


Why switch when you're earning 300k USD/year no problem?


Didn't it get bumped to 400k?


either way its more than ten times what every korean sc2 player earns as salary combined.


I think his point was if he cant play at a level to earn him 300k, and so he has to negotiate much lower, would that be enough to jump. Otherwise, yes it would be dumb for him to leave a gravy train mid gravy.


He was doing just fine before the surgery, there's no reason to think he's suddenly going to become an MVP-level player.


But that was point, the surgery was an extensive and invasive procedure effecting a good part of his arm, no just wrist. I am fairly certain they had to cut or remove portions of muscle that were causing pressure on his nerves. His capabilities could have been effected since the only reason those muscles were there was because they got built up over the course of playing so much. Pending his rehab, he may need a longer ramp up time to get back into the saddle then a lot of people think.

So if he can't perform at Flash levels for the next 6 months - year while he heals and rebuilds lost strength, adapts to shifts in the meta game, etc, he isn't going to be pulling those huge numbers. And you have to figure how the SC2 community develops in the next year or so, which no one knows.

He will likely just stick to BW and probably slowly ramp up to as close as old Flash as possible, but there is a chance he will either move on to something else entirely or try his hand at SC2, if he doesn't live up to past hype or worse, his own standards for himself.


If he wasn't affected by the injury which caused him to require the surgery then I don't see how the surgery itself should be that big of a problem. There is zero reason to suggest he will leave BW, let alone go to sc2.

The OP says he will make a full recovery in 2-3 months, not 6 months to a year.
BW forever || Thall
SenorChang
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia4730 Posts
October 11 2011 03:38 GMT
#176
On October 10 2011 22:23 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2011 19:00 SenorChang wrote:
Should do project A season 2 with Nal_Ra!

Yea Kang Min!


ever heard of oldboy?

Yah I've seen it, was great :D Which is why I want to see more of Kang Min, he practiced so hard even that late into his career.
ლ(╹◡╹ლ)
xiaominmbb
Profile Joined October 2011
United States3 Posts
October 11 2011 11:42 GMT
#177
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 11 2011 20:56 GMT
#178
Lol, shattered image of BoxeR.
kiss kiss fall in love
branflakes14
Profile Joined July 2010
2082 Posts
October 11 2011 23:29 GMT
#179
Little do you know, Flash's surgery was actually to give him bionic arms since flesh and bone can't handle that high a level of APM.
SkimGuy
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada709 Posts
October 15 2011 00:29 GMT
#180
Thank you so much Milkis! Big hearts <3
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