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[GSTL] Cut in Half

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[GSTL] Cut in Half

Text byHeyoka
Graphics byHawaiianPig
September 7th, 2011 21:57 GMT

WEEK 10

Cutting the Field in Half

Only Six Teams Remain

What We Do
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Jupiter Group

Venus Group

F.United's Run

FGSTL Interview

Playoffs
And with that, the regular season concluded.

A season hard fought, a season with ups and downs, one that saw the rise of new stars and a suspicious lack of others. We saw a first glance of not one, but two foreign teams, and at least one player transform from 'good' to 'a wrecking machine'.

The concluding week even had some nice surprises, Clide had an awesome showing and smoothly all-killed MVP to bring TSL to 5-0 with an astounding 20-7 game record, and Curious also showed his strength by scoring an all-kill against FXO Korea.

Of course the nicest surprise was F.United, who secured their second victory for the round when Fenix and Soccer overpowered oGs. They doubled their match wins in a single day! They ended the first GSTL season with twice as many wins as three other teams in the league.

Take that, SlayerS.

All of these things make the team league worth watching. Starcraft is not just a game about NesTea, MVP, or...whatever best Protoss (Sage? Puzzle? Aiur is coming up empty). It's a game about the Clides, the Squirtles, and the GuineaPigs. It's a game about those who are untouchable on occasion and look all-too-human at other times. The team league is where these players are given their chance to shine.

It's the arena by which we learn about the lesser seen players on a team, players who dedicate as much or more of their entities to Starcraft as any of us. This is the stage by which they give us a piece of themselves, and we take it and make that part of the story that is Starcraft competition.

This is where those brave players lead their teams when regular play finished.

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You can find more info on Liquipedia


On to the true celebration of the players and their games.

Week 10
Jupiter Group

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F.United against Old Generations
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(Z)Moon <Terminus RE> (Z)Cezanne
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(P)SocceR <Tal'Darim Altar> (Z)Cezanne -
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(P)SocceR <Bel'shir Beach> (Z)Luvsic -
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(T)Fenix <Antiga Shipyard> (Z)Luvsic -
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(T)Fenix <Xel'Naga Fortress> (T)TheStC -
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(T)Fenix <Crossfire SE> (P)MC -
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F.United 4 > 2 oGs-TL



First off I want to thank the guys who put together the Live Report threads, from whom I steal the results, thank you all for your hard work putting them together. [Come back MoonBear!] With that being said...

F.United seems so schizophrenic with who their opening player is, there's no real pattern to be found. For game one F.United opened with Moon against one of oGs' few good Zerg players: Cezzane. But before the match got underway, there's something that needs to be said: oGs-TL's emblem is awesome, and their intro song is awesome, you should check them both out.

Moon showed off a much stronger ZvZ in this opening series than he did last week. Even so, it wasn't enough to best Cezzane. The game was back and forth from the beginning, with Ling/Baneling micro battles transitioning into a Roaches focused mid-game and eventually an Infestor focused late game. Cezzane had slightly crisper timings than Moon, getting upgrades and tech out slightly faster and was able to take the win through his superior timed execution. It's a game worth watching, if only for the hope that ZvZ is standardizing.

Next up was the often overlooked WeMadeFox's Soccer; it's still fantastic for me to see foreigners be the clutch team players over the Koreans. Soccer got a chance to show off his well thought out game plan, with nice transitions through unit compositions until finally getting High Templar, Void Ray, Colossus out. Despite some sloppy execution from both players, the game ended up being pretty fun to watch, and finally gave Soccer a chance to show his skill level when he's not being punished for sub-par execution.

In an interesting choice, oGs threw out another Zerg, Luvsic. Luvsic did what always seems to beat Soccer in his matches: abuse of his unclean execution. A nice Roach timing was all it took to best Soccer, who didn't get a chance to show his smart late game play.

It was time to bring out the foreigner big guns in the form of the Peruvian Fenix. Fenix showed off some fantastic play against Luvsic, demonstrating how much he's learned in Korea. Fenix was able to use solid Marine/Tank play to shut down Luvsic's economy at every turn. Despite some great counter attacking decisions from Luvsic, Fenix played TvZ the way it was designed to be played, absorbing the Zerg swarm but doing enough economic damage to come out ahead in cost efficiency every time. This game might have been made by Blizzard themselves with how "true to the races" it was played.

oGsTheSTC was the next hope against the unstoppable Peruvian. Fenix got way ahead in the early game, holding STC's timing and getting a huge number of SCV kills with his blue flame Hellions. Fenix was able to prevent STC's follow up harass from doing too much damage and so had too large an economic advantage to lose. If you like lining 'em up, than this is a good game, otherwise it was pretty basic with Fenix outplaying STC

oGs suddenly realized that they were about to lose so put out their ace player MC as their final hope against the much improved Fenix. Fenix should have pulled way ahead in the early game with hidden two Barracks pressure, but was stopped by some unfortunately poor micro. Afterwards both players were pretty even as they macro'd up to three bases with only back and forth pokes in between. Finally MC went for a very well controlled engagement, besting Fenix's army with excellent Storm control. MC got tunnel vision after the engagement, going for a series of almost kill attacks against Fenix's front without expanding or teching behind them. Eventually Fenix was able to take out MC's unprotected third base with a drop, and take the win out of nowhere.

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This was Pretty Much Fenix


Fenix was in trouble in two of his three games, with Wolf and Doa calling it in the enemies favor both times. Fenix was the comeback kid, and he did it with excellent micro, and much improved macro. He let F.United go out with a bang, and I can not wait to see his growth with IM.

Fenix is the one to watch.


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Most Valuable against Team SCV Life
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(Z)Monster < Daybreak > (T)Clide
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(Z)DongRaeGu < Tal’Darim Altar LE> (T)Clide
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(P)Vampire < Dual Sight > (T)Clide
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(R)GuineaPig < Metalopolis 1.1 > (T)Clide
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MVP 0 < 4 TSL


Both Monster and Clide opted to expand before worrying about unit-producing structures, but Monster's Roach pressure transition proved much more effective than Clide’s Depot-heavy build. Unfortunately for Monster, that was about where his good play ended. Clide crept back into the game with some solid drops and some less solid pacing back and forth across the map with his bio, but he was ahead on both third and fourth expansion timings. Monster's fourth was actually so late it never got up, and we all know how three base Zerg does against four base Terran.

Clide’s TvZ didn’t seem particularly strong, because MVP went straight to back to the Zerg well. DongRaeGu proceeded to uncharacteristically bork a Baneling Bust, and I began to hope. Maybe this was Clide’s moment, his time to shine. Maybe Clide would be the man to end DRG’s reign of terror. Artosis would finally be vindicated.

Then Clide threw away about a half dozen Medivacs full of marines trying to drop while Mutas were on the field. God dammit.

Somehow that brought the players back to roughly even, and when Clide began his slow Marine-Tank push, DRG went with an end-around. For a moment it looked like the Ling-Muta counterattack was brilliant, but then a single misclick sent the entire Muta pack on a suicide move command over a half dozen Turrets and a squad of Marines. And with that, the reign of terror ended. Clide had done the impossible: beaten DRG in the GSTL.

The announcers then let us know that Clide was “doing pretty good”.

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Artosis knows how well Clide is doing

With Protoss up next from MVP, Clide went to a Bunker heavy build, letting Vampire’s Gateway + Void Ray build keep him pinned in his base until Medivacs came out. Once Medivacs came out, though, the game was afoot: Clide’s first drop was a masterpiece, dropping into the natural, clearing out the Probes, getting chased into the main, killing more Probes, and then getting out with 5 of his 8 Marines. Like whoa.

MVP threw up their strategic hands and sent out the one random player in the entire league. The winds of fate brought us a TvT. GuineaPig’s quick CC into Banshees seemed solid, right up until Clide’s blue flame Hellions reduced his SCV count to 2.

Somehow the game lasted for quite a while longer; GuineaPig’s Banshee heavy force managed to keep the continual waves of Hellions from destroying actual buildings, but the Hellions managed to kill pretty much everything else, including almost 70 SCVs. That's not the kind of thing one comes back from.

Thus begins the long prophesied rise of Clide, slayer of workers and Lord of Hellions.
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All glory to the Clide! All glory to the Clide! All glory to the Clide!


Week 10
Venus Group

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FXO Korea against StarTale
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(Z)Lucky <Antiga Shipyard> (Z)Curious
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(P)Inori <Tal'Darim Altar> (Z)Curious
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(P)Choya <Metalopolis> (Z)Curious
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(T)asd <Xel'Naga Fortress> (Z)Curious

FXO Korea 1 < 4 StarTale

StarTale eliminates FXO Korea's chances to make the playoffs


Bomber starts this series off with one of his favorites: the Bunker rush! Oddly though, his opponent doesn't scout this somewhat standard Terran opening. This stroke of fortune allows Bomber to set up completely at the Zergs natural doing significant early damage until Lucky can fend it off. The pressure really never lets up from here. Invoking the ceremonial dance of hellions vs slow lings followed shortly by cloaked banshees courting queens, Bomber gains a tremendous lead and decides not to get more ahead and instead start screwing around and throwing away massive amounts of units for no real gain making this game far closer than it should have been. Lucky holds on, and fights, and claws and eventually base trades with SO MANY BANELINGS...enough to crush the remaining Terran army winning the Zerg the game in a most hilarious fashion.

Both players open up very similarly getting down an expansion accompanied by a Baneling Nest. The one major difference being that Lucky gets a Baneling bomb off in the natural of Curious killing a handful of Drones, more than enough to gain a strong lead. From here Lucky uses the Larva advantage to get out more units while Curious techs to Infestors. What ensues is one of the best and most entertaining ZvZ's that I've ever seen, all I can say is it involves lots of Fungals, Roaches, Infested Terrans, Brood Lords, and carrrrrrrrnage! A great game with so much going on that Curious ends up winning some how. WATCH THIS!

It's hard to know what exactly to say about this game, it's like the last game but minus the awesome. Inori opts for what looks to be a timing attack...but without the timing, instead he uses his large force and quick upgrades to take a hidden expansion that he Cannons the hell out of. So Curious is confused when the Protoss is on 2 base for so long with no attack and naturally begins maxing out his tech tree and taking the map. Eventually they fight and the armies kind of trade, and Inori holds on with his weird composition for a bit until a real fight finally happens. There's alot of Storms and tons of Feedbacks, but in the end around a dozen Brood Lords are still standing, a lack-luster finish to a very strange and boring game.

Curious shuts down this silly 1 gate expansion play by Protoss, simply attacking with a Ling force and forcing a cancel. From here nothing seems to go Choya's way, getting his tech scouted and always running into the Zerg at the wrong time. Eventually they go for somewhat of a base trade where Choya gets 1 and Curious gets 2, putting the Zerg rather ahead. After this Choya fights for his life, trying whatever he can to hold on, but Curious's overwhelming style ends up being too much

asd begins with double Reactor Hellions going for a quick attack that is to involve quite a alot of fire. Curious sees this in time to set up a Queen wall, managing to corner and kill all ELEVEN Hellions in his natural with some Banelings for virtually no losses. From here Curious does that voodoo that he does so well, getting farther ahead: backstabbing his opponent every time he tries to move, not giving an inch let alone a mile, macroing up an ever larger swarm force supported by non stop Muta harassment until a final engagement destroys the Terran 3rd along with his army, ending this series with a game that looked almost too easy for curious and ST as a whole.

Curious gets his own all kill!


F.United's Run
by Heyoka and SirJolt


One month ago, F.United embarked on the gruelling quest of taking on the GSTL, the harshest of team leagues. Last week marked the completion of their journey, ending on a high note with a win over Old Generations-TL.

The first days in Korea were less than stellar for the United players. Those not from Korea – ThorZain, NaNiwa, and Fenix – were forced to play Code A matches on television shortly after arriving. The result was a somewhat half-hearted initial showing, in which only ThorZain won a game between the three of them (plus SaSe).

Later that week they had better fortune, when Thorzain and NaNiwa teamed up to take down MVP notables, wOn, GuineaPig, Noblesse, and Genius. The team was off to a surprising start; they had a hopeful but uncertain future. The road ahead would be difficult and they knew better than anyone else the challenge that they faced.

The next few weeks made that enormity of that challenge clear to all concerned. F.United managed a near miss against TSL, only to be completely shut out by both Prime and SlayerS. Being a team of universally strong constitution, F.United kept going. They trained, tirelessly and without hesitation. They didn't let bad news get them down, NaNiwa even traveled to compete in MLG Raleigh. Through the tilts and the triumphs, they trained. Tried and tested, they trained.

They shouldered the hopes of a globe full of foreigners, and marched on. Brave soldiers that they are, simply making the trip to Korea took each of them great effort, and once there they stayed course and kept up the energy.

Last week, their GSTL journey concluded. Already out of the playoffs, a chance of redemption presented itself. The conditions were still difficult. Their opponents, Old Generations, were fighting for their playoff spot and could not afford to soft-play. They had to go all out.

Fenix came in and showed the oGs team how Terran is played. He showed them what one of the most capable TvTs outside of Korea looks like, and then walked over MC in Crossfire like as though it were nothing. Their season ended on a resounding high note, those few brave souls savouring the taste of victory before facing the even more daunting task of tackling Code A as individuals begins.

With the GSTL behind us fast receding, and Code A looming large, it’s hard not to wonder; what has F.United achieved? When all was said and done, what did they have to show for their month of hardship? They who have risked so much and stood alone, astride a teeming horde of foreigner players. They who were the best of us. What stands testament to the effort of the brave few who flew so from far home and hearth to take on top Korean teams at home? What have they achieved?

Not-last-place.

A small victory, but a well deserved win regardless. Progress is slow; movement even so small is impressive. When you’re bringing the mountain to Mohammad, the slightest shift, the smallest slip, is seismic.


After all, fourth-from-last is better than Air Force ACE has ever placed.


Primadog is here with an impressively in-depth look at how fantasy GSTL shaped up and where things stand right now.

Fantasy GSTL Winner Interview
by Primadog


After a grueling 10-week season against a field of over 10,000 fantasy teams, one man climbed to the top and became the undisputed champion of the inaugural TeamLiquid SC2 Fantasy League season.

His name is mrbamboo.


How does it feel to finally have a personalize TL icon?

It feels pretty good. I've been lurking around the TeamLiquid forums since the Brood War days, but I didn't really start visiting regularly until StarCraft 2 came out. Fantasy was the first thing that got me to regularly post on TeamLiquid. Now with a cool icon next to my name I'll continue to contribute to the forums and in particularly for future fantasy seasons.

Can't let that icon go to waste!


How are you handling your sudden claim to fame?

Haha. Even though there were 10,000 fantasy teams, I feel like the number of people that played seriously for the full season were probably only in the hundreds. I guess I'm a little e-famous amongst the small group of TeamLiquid that post in the Fantasy GSTL Discussion Thread. I have to say though, I've already got a handful of haters on the forums, so it's been a pretty interesting experience for me.


A budding rivalry appeared to have blossomed between you and Fanta_Rules since the win, one that has been called "our own Fantasy League IdrA and MC" by Swap. Any words for Fanta and the other "haters"?

I wouldn't really call it a rivalry. Fantasy is, for a large part, a game of chance. Whenever someone wins, they're bound to be people that don't think he deserved it. In the end, it's a game about speculating another game, so there's no need to take it personally.

I don't think I'm quite as boastful as (P)MC, when things turned out as I predicted, I'm just really happy and likes to talk about how awesome it was. I also liked to analyze the outcomes needed for me to stay at that rank 1 spot. Some people might take that analysis as a taunt, but I just enjoy sharing speculations.

For these haters to be considered (Z)IdrA, they have to actually place higher in the league first, otherwise they are just people who BM with nothing to back themselves up. Although I have to say that Fanta admitting to rage-quit the fantasy league mid season is rather IdrA-like, I'll give him that.


When was it that you knew you had the league won?

Not until after the last match was played. I actually had work the next day, so I couldn't stay up to watch the series. The first thing I did when I woke up was check my phone for the results, and I couldn't believe it -- (Z)Lucky actually took out (T)Bomber, then (Z)Curious got the all kill. It was the perfect storm necessary for me to win the whole thing!

I had a pretty significant lead for majority of the season. Toward the end, however, I played a little too safe and allowed many people to catch up. It ended up being super close, and with one day left I was actually the underdog, because no one seriously believed Bomber could lose to Lucky in the first game. Although in hindsight, if you consider that Bomber just got back from a long flight from MLG the day before (and that Lucky has had a whole week to prepare), it shouldn't be as surprising.


There was some controversy surrounding the circumstances of your win. Words like "lucksack" and "scumbag" come to mind. Do you care to address them?

Fantasy is about managing your odds and taking risks, and of course there's tons of luck involved. In the end, you take whatever information you can get (about the players, teams, coaches, etc), and try to construct the best fantasy team from those information. Anyone who wins the fantasy has to be a little lucky. It never hurts.

Scumbag is just way too personal of a word. It's not warranted. All I got to say is that it's a game, so play it for fun, and don't forget to enjoy the amazing players in the GSTL.


Let's talk strategy. You are one of the most prolific player-trader in the league, and consistently top-10 in your points-gained-by-trading. What was your secret?

A couple things:
  • The starting players are really important. If anything this GSTL has shown us is that there are tons of great players that we've never heard of, and that coach decisions can be sometimes strange. The only sure bet is that you know the starting players.
    A safe way to trade is to pick 1 or 2 of the starters of that week that are likely to win at least their starting match. If they win more even better, but at least you got a great chance of getting something instead of nothing. This is great when you are ahead and just keeping a lead.
  • One of things I did better than some others is that I follow the smaller Korean tournaments. The Korean Weekly is fantastic for this, as well as some of the more recent TL Opens. They've all show cased some great B-team players that has tons of potential. (T)Hack, (T)Jjakji, (P)Puzzle, (P)Sage, (T)GuMiho, (Z)Curious are all players that have scored Top-4 or better in those small tournaments before making a splash in the GSTL. The team league has traditionally been a tournament where the lesser known players get a chance at the stage, so a little research goes a long way of finding these hidden gems.
  • Try to be objective. Root for your favorite players, but be realistic about who you think will win. If you are trying to win fantasy, your trades are not the place to blindly root for your hero who may not ever see play.
  • Of course, look at the schedule. Try to get players that will play more than 1 series in a row. This will save your trade slots of swapping the same players in and out again. If you can, keep up with which player will be out of town or practicing for some other tournament/match up. This will help you gauge their likelihood of seeing play.


As one of the few players that swapped team several times (MVP -> FXK -> Prime). Do you think this is a strategy worth replicating in the future?

It depends on the situation. The big advantage with team trade is that it has no trade tax. If you look on the leader board, some of the people with the biggest trade gains got it through trading through all the teams that fought against FXO. I think this a totally valid strategy.

You just have to be very careful about calculating out the potential trade value scenarios, because there are much less options for trading with teams than with players. Generally speaking, you don't want to take too big a risk with team trades, because you'll get stuck with the team if it doesn't pay off.


What's your expectation for Season 2? Will you able to retain the crown? Or will you be happy with top-10 finish? Top-100?

I'd be happy with top-10. A big part of fantasy is chance, so even if you make some of the most sensible trades, it won't always work out your way. I think that if I can get top-10 again, I would already shown consistency in my decision making. Of course, I'd love to win again.

A big part of this season was betting against foreigners. Whether that becomes a major theme again next season will play a big role of how the fantasy season unfolds. I think Mr Chae mentioned during the code A preliminaries recently that some kind of international team league is under discussion. I personally didn't like that FXO and F.United each got to play 5 weeks in a row, since it made trade value progression between players really weird. I'd much prefer to see a more evenly distributed schedule for next season, and it'll made trades more interesting as well.

Either way I think it'll be really fun. I plan to continue contributing to the fantasy discussion threads with all my analysis and speculation during season 2.


After an exciting season like this, you have gained a few fans. maruchan wrote "I like mrbamboo a lot. Seems like a decent guy and a very deserving winner." Any last words to your fans or just general shoutouts?

Haha. I'm happy that I've made some fans; I particularly appreciate that some of you defending me against the small number of haters. I look forward to next season and will do my best to win again.


Congratulations on winning Fantasy Season 1. I believe I owe you a beer.

Thanks!


Playoffs


Around two weeks from now, September 22nd, the GSTL moves into the next stage and begins playoffs. Maybe some places would 'paint you a picture', but there is no need when Liquipedia has done it.

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The playoff system is pretty normal, the lower seeded teams play each other right away in the first round and the winners face off against the group winners. Third place of Group A plays second place of Group B, you know the drill.

Oh, also, its all best of nine. Previoust GSTL finals have shown that the long format is conducive for great series.

TSL, having finally won me over late in the season, is probably in a more delicate position than they would like to be. While they have some strong players, their lineup is somewhere near exactly nine players and that is including stars such as (T)Ultimate and (Z)Ragnarok. What are they going to do if Revival gets sick?

HoSeo could suffer a similar fate, it will be interesting to see how the longer series effects each team. IM Seems to be in less danger, having yet to unleash NesTea on the team league. It wouldn't be terribly surprising if they took down the championship. MVP's lineup never seems "deep" but DRG tends to count as ten or so players on his own so who knows.

One thing is for sure, however, the fact that we have a lot to look forward to.


This GSTL update was brought to you thanks to Divinek, confusedcrib, bobq, Primadog, and Heyoka in no particular order. Thanks to HawaiianPig for the graphics and SirJolt for the guest editing help! The GSTL is pretty awesome so we are likely to will do this in the future, check back soon to find results or berate your favorite player for losing.

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XnG_777
Profile Joined June 2011
713 Posts
September 07 2011 21:59 GMT
#2
Reading it now, but it looks awesome as usual!
scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
September 07 2011 22:05 GMT
#3
On September 08 2011 06:59 XnG_777 wrote:
Reading it now, but it looks awesome as usual!

Why post before you've even read it? Just so that you get first comment?
HyruleanTubist
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States189 Posts
September 07 2011 22:08 GMT
#4
I lol'd at the DRG = 10 or so players comment. Great write-up, can't wait for these matches? Is it possible we might see IMFenix in the playoffs?
Laneir
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1160 Posts
September 07 2011 22:09 GMT
#5
great write up good views on the OGS vs Funited game fenis pulled out some amazing games and im very looking forward to how this playoff season goes im hoping IM can make a come back and win it
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XnG_777
Profile Joined June 2011
713 Posts
September 07 2011 22:09 GMT
#6
On September 08 2011 07:08 HyruleanTubist wrote:
I lol'd at the DRG = 10 or so players comment. Great write-up, can't wait for these matches? Is it possible we might see IMFenix in the playoffs?


iirc players cannot play with 2 different teams in the same season.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
September 07 2011 22:11 GMT
#7
In Proleague you had to be on an official roster at the start of a month but I have no idea how these things work with GSTL. I doubt we will see him even if he is technically eligible but we'll see.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
Witten
Profile Joined January 2011
United States2094 Posts
September 07 2011 22:14 GMT
#8
I've actually read it and it's awesome.
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CrisisNOOB
Profile Joined May 2011
United States39 Posts
September 07 2011 22:15 GMT
#9
Cool! I wanna see mrbamboo's icon :O
NOOB is allcaps cuz it's srsbsns
HiNoon
Profile Joined November 2010
United States31 Posts
September 07 2011 22:15 GMT
#10
Great write-up!

Congrats to mrbamboo for taking the crown, well deserved win.
hoping for a good playoffs and an even stronger foreigner showing next year.
praying Fenix will get start time on IM
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lee365
Profile Joined December 2010
United States448 Posts
September 07 2011 22:16 GMT
#11
I'm still sore about SlayerS getting eliminated
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CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
September 07 2011 22:20 GMT
#12
I still can't believe it. After two firsts how Slayers lose So many imba terran too </3
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
MrCon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
France29748 Posts
September 07 2011 22:27 GMT
#13
The intro of the post is awesome, was it written by heyoka ?

Can't believe mrbamboo has haters haha, and even got some insults oO
All his posts were really full of insight and were very interesting. And a Korean Weekly fan can't be a bad person.
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
September 07 2011 22:28 GMT
#14
Good read as always, thank you Heyoka.

And of course Divinek, confusedcrib, bobq, Primadog and
Super special guest editor Sir Mother Funking JOOOOLT
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Darion
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada265 Posts
September 07 2011 22:28 GMT
#15
Actually, you only need five players in a best of nine series. If it goes to the 9th game, that means your players won four of those games and didn't have to switch out.
jimchoi11
Profile Joined August 2011
United States65 Posts
September 07 2011 22:36 GMT
#16
dude that was a good representation of fenix and all BUT fenix represents south america, not united states. there should be a actual photos of fenix, hes done so good for f united but there is never an actual photo of him in these gstl artical stuff......
Archas
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States6531 Posts
September 07 2011 22:37 GMT
#17
On September 08 2011 07:15 CrisisNOOB wrote:
Cool! I wanna see mrbamboo's icon :O

He doesn't have it just yet.

Great article. Looking forward to the grueling Bo9 playoffs!
The room is ripe with the stench of bitches!
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
September 07 2011 22:39 GMT
#18
Oh man, IM vs MvP. Let's see if DRG can hold up if they throw Nestea into the fray.
dignity
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada908 Posts
September 07 2011 22:42 GMT
#19
Finally DRG was stopped. And he only all killed several teams before it happened.
Asha
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom38255 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 22:51:38
September 07 2011 22:49 GMT
#20
Not had a chance to read all of it yet but I wish this had found its way in there somewhere:

Prime's reaction to the last minutes of Fenix vs MC



Perfect example of what the team league does mean to the players involved
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
September 07 2011 22:52 GMT
#21
cool interview with mrbamboo and some pretty nice tips too
you live and you learn
HyruleanTubist
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States189 Posts
September 07 2011 22:54 GMT
#22
On September 08 2011 07:11 heyoka wrote:
In Proleague you had to be on an official roster at the start of a month but I have no idea how these things work with GSTL. I doubt we will see him even if he is technically eligible but we'll see.


I would assume something like that is in place. Otherwise you'd get something like "Hey oGs, can we borrow MC for the Team League finals? Here's a lump sum". Next season, though :D
metharon
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden71 Posts
September 07 2011 22:58 GMT
#23
nice read! grats to mrmamboo :D
cyberspace
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada955 Posts
September 07 2011 23:10 GMT
#24
Great write up. Congrats to mrbamboo as well. Can't wait for the playoffs going to be awesome.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Zzoram
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada7115 Posts
September 07 2011 23:18 GMT
#25
Aren't F.United 4th from last, not 3rd from last? They did better than 3 teams.

What is the future of F.United? With WeMadeFox disbanding, Fenix joining IM, and Thorzain leaving Korea, will there be enough foreigners around for a new F.United team?

Or will GSTL S2 just combine the two FXO teams and remove F.United?

Or best of all, keep F.United with Naniwa and Sjow and a few others, and have EG replace FXO International.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
September 07 2011 23:26 GMT
#26
If I didnt have ST_Curious on my anti-team, I might have won this fantasy league season =\. -18 for having him and my ending points was 103
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Kazeyonoma
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2912 Posts
September 07 2011 23:34 GMT
#27
On September 08 2011 07:49 Asha` wrote:
Not had a chance to read all of it yet but I wish this had found its way in there somewhere:

Prime's reaction to the last minutes of Fenix vs MC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG6ybAbmc8c&feature=player_embedded

Perfect example of what the team league does mean to the players involved


Everytime I watch it i go nuts with them. This GSTL was awesome the whole way through. Im a die hard slayers fan, so seeing them not make it to the playoffs and suck most of the season was ROOOOOUGH, but now I think I have to root for prime, just cuz of this video.


PRIME FIGHTING!
I now have autographs of both BoxeR and NaDa. I can die happy. Lim Yo Hwan and Lee Yun Yeol FIGHTING forever!
MrSandman
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia188 Posts
September 07 2011 23:36 GMT
#28
On September 08 2011 07:49 Asha` wrote:
Not had a chance to read all of it yet but I wish this had found its way in there somewhere:

Prime's reaction to the last minutes of Fenix vs MC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG6ybAbmc8c&feature=player_embedded

Perfect example of what the team league does mean to the players involved


That's actually pretty awesome. We see a lot bout how the korean teams are interested in how the foreigners are doing but to see that kind of excitement over a foreign all-kill is pretty awesome :-) The guy in a white shirt is clearly a fenix fan!
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ArchDC
Profile Joined May 2011
Malaysia1996 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 23:40:03
September 07 2011 23:38 GMT
#29
Edit: Great write-up!

Lots of major upsets and pleasant surprises. SlayerS finishing last in their division, oGs not making it and IM barely making it into the playoffs. TSL and Hoseo owning faces, it's nice to see so much diversity.

I wonder if GSTL should be like BW proleague where only the best players play... Often teams send out their rising stars (to give them some exp even though they are not their best player - IM is a good example). It's nice to be able to see new players play, but it's a major risk and 'blunder' when they do not perform. It also gives the impression that teams do not care about the team league as much and makes it not as prestigious?

Slayers seems to really care though and I hope they do better next season, team leagues and the prestige is also due to Boxer's influence like most of SC.
TurbineBlade
Profile Joined July 2011
United States117 Posts
September 07 2011 23:39 GMT
#30
Cant wait for the Finals. I have IM and ST
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JiYan
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3668 Posts
September 07 2011 23:41 GMT
#31
cant wait for this!
killerdog
Profile Joined February 2010
Denmark6522 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-07 23:43:16
September 07 2011 23:42 GMT
#32
On September 08 2011 08:36 MrSandman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 07:49 Asha` wrote:
Not had a chance to read all of it yet but I wish this had found its way in there somewhere:

Prime's reaction to the last minutes of Fenix vs MC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG6ybAbmc8c&feature=player_embedded

Perfect example of what the team league does mean to the players involved


That's actually pretty awesome. We see a lot bout how the korean teams are interested in how the foreigners are doing but to see that kind of excitement over a foreign all-kill is pretty awesome :-) The guy in a white shirt is clearly a fenix fan!


They arn't just excited because it was a foreigner all kill, look at the final standings, they beat ogs by 3% winrate with the same number of matches. For prime to get into playoffs f.united had to beat ogs 4-2 or more, and that game against mc decided whether or not prime would be in playoffs.
BigLighthouse
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom424 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 00:21:29
September 08 2011 00:21 GMT
#33
It just struck me that F.United were literally 1 map from making playoffs. If Thorzain had beaten TSL_Alive in that 1 Ace match they'd have made it. They really overacheived, especially considering how little depth they had. Im pretty excited for the playoffs even without them though.
Brotatolol
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1742 Posts
September 08 2011 00:24 GMT
#34
Nice write-up, I'm really looking forward to the playoffs

Also, congrats to mrbamboo!
elmizzt
Profile Joined February 2010
United States3309 Posts
September 08 2011 00:25 GMT
#35
gz bamboo, 100% deserved win this season. Enjoy your icon, I wanna see it!
d=(^_^)z
Steamboatlol
Profile Joined April 2010
United States161 Posts
September 08 2011 00:38 GMT
#36
I thought F. United's run was extremely impressive, especially because the Korean's on their team was actually their glaring weakness. I'm a little disappointed Naniwa didn't break out of his shell, but I'm feeling a strong showing from the foreigners this upcoming Code A season as long as they prepare and adjust to korean time. I bet one foreigner will actually make Code S.
Cold-Blood
Profile Joined March 2010
United States200 Posts
September 08 2011 01:22 GMT
#37
On September 08 2011 07:08 HyruleanTubist wrote:
I lol'd at the DRG = 10 or so players comment. Great write-up, can't wait for these matches? Is it possible we might see IMFenix in the playoffs?


Hahahha I lol'd so far at that too!!! The wording just made it really funny (:
Forever and Always #1 YellOw fan.
mrbamboo
Profile Joined December 2010
United States415 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-08 01:41:40
September 08 2011 01:41 GMT
#38
So like, what's this icon I'm supposedly getting :D

Also thanks for everyone's support!
vilg
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark413 Posts
September 08 2011 01:43 GMT
#39
What I liked most about the f.united run was that it was obvious that with the roster filled with other top foreigners, they could for sure have made the playoffs. The koreans did nothing (with good reason, as lyn/moon play full time wc3 due to wcg coming up). I think it's a shame they didn't get sase to play for instance. Anyway was a good read!
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
September 08 2011 01:45 GMT
#40
Good to see that you have finally acknowledged the might of The SCV Life!
Mobius_1
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2763 Posts
September 08 2011 02:22 GMT
#41
Not enough Cliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiide worship for my taste. But excellent roundup of what's been a great season of GSTL so far.
Starleague Forever. RIP KT Violet~
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
September 08 2011 02:33 GMT
#42
On September 08 2011 07:49 Asha` wrote:
Not had a chance to read all of it yet but I wish this had found its way in there somewhere:

Prime's reaction to the last minutes of Fenix vs MC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG6ybAbmc8c&feature=player_embedded

Perfect example of what the team league does mean to the players involved



Wow, imagine what Prime must have been feeling with their last hope is that MC loses to some foreigner.And that that one game decided whether they went to the playoffs or not. Pretty intense.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
GinDo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
3327 Posts
September 08 2011 03:18 GMT
#43
Flash

Power Rank as of 07/06/2007
+ Show Spoiler +
Trying to place Flash in this month’s Power Rank was a frustrating experience for me. On the one hand, his record is incredible, but on the other hand, I can make an “excuse” for every one of his wins. Many of his wins are against players who are weak vT. Others involve favorable maps or cheese builds. Then there was his recent Bo3 against Bisu, which didn’t reflect much in the way of confidence despite his 2-0 win.


Clide

I remember when Clide got the bad fame especially from Idra fans of being a cheesey 1 base player. But as of late he is showing solid play. If Flash taught us anything, it's to never count a player out. Sometimes they surprise you and personally I hope Clide get greater success in his SC2 Career.
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parazice
Profile Joined March 2011
Thailand5517 Posts
September 08 2011 03:21 GMT
#44
MVP is so imba they have like 10+player XD DRG = 10*bitbybit
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
September 08 2011 03:39 GMT
#45
Damn, didn't realize until now that Fenix knocked OGS out of the playoffs. That Fenix vs. MC game was so tense and one of the best holds I've ever seen.
$♥$
BarbieHsu
Profile Joined September 2011
574 Posts
September 08 2011 03:45 GMT
#46
Do you know what's going to be awesome?

The certainty that we will see a Nestea v DongRaeGu match.
mikyaJ
Profile Joined April 2011
1834 Posts
September 08 2011 04:48 GMT
#47
On September 08 2011 08:36 MrSandman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 07:49 Asha` wrote:
Not had a chance to read all of it yet but I wish this had found its way in there somewhere:

Prime's reaction to the last minutes of Fenix vs MC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG6ybAbmc8c&feature=player_embedded

Perfect example of what the team league does mean to the players involved


That's actually pretty awesome. We see a lot bout how the korean teams are interested in how the foreigners are doing but to see that kind of excitement over a foreign all-kill is pretty awesome :-) The guy in a white shirt is clearly a fenix fan!

That's because Fenix winning put them in the playoffs,


also fuck yeah TSL :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

Prime too
MKP||TSL
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
September 08 2011 05:32 GMT
#48
On September 08 2011 12:45 BarbieHsu wrote:
Do you know what's going to be awesome?

The certainty that we will see a Nestea v DongRaeGu match.

Why not just have MVP snipe him?
fenixauriga
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden205 Posts
September 08 2011 05:47 GMT
#49
Not last place hwaiting, nice to see F.untied winning two matches. I'm kinda suprised Slayers got last place though
If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called research, would it? - Einstein
Strawburry17
Profile Joined May 2011
Australia130 Posts
September 08 2011 06:03 GMT
#50
Well before Fenix Join IM,
He practiced really hard with IM members like Happy,MVP,Seed,LosirA
and I guess he already absorbed every 'know-how' of macro/micro management
vs Zerg/Protoss/Terran from IMMVP
(it seemed really clear when he crushed Luvsic,Stc that his style is really similar with MVP)

He was really brillant and terrific!

IMFenix Hwaiting!! <3
LG-IMSeed, the Upcoming Protoss Executor.
Archerylady
Profile Joined January 2011
277 Posts
September 08 2011 06:07 GMT
#51
awesome writeup, can;t wait for playoffs
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
September 08 2011 06:56 GMT
#52
DRG = 10 players LOL, true.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
Swap
Profile Joined February 2008
Sweden144 Posts
September 08 2011 07:29 GMT
#53
Fastastic writeup, as always!

Congratulations again MrBamboo!
he he... ja
Sprouter
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1724 Posts
September 08 2011 08:07 GMT
#54
lol at the salt in the fantasy league. i don't like comparison of FUnited to ACE but it makes enough sense.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3805 Posts
September 08 2011 08:30 GMT
#55
You shall worship the CLIDEBURNS!!!!!!!!
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Shuray
Profile Joined July 2008
Brazil642 Posts
September 08 2011 08:46 GMT
#56
That`s really cool that playoffs will be bo9, can`t wait!
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
September 08 2011 09:33 GMT
#57
King Curious, Go Startale!!
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MetalSlug
Profile Joined February 2010
Germany443 Posts
September 08 2011 09:34 GMT
#58
On September 08 2011 08:36 MrSandman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 08 2011 07:49 Asha` wrote:
Not had a chance to read all of it yet but I wish this had found its way in there somewhere:

Prime's reaction to the last minutes of Fenix vs MC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zG6ybAbmc8c&feature=player_embedded

Perfect example of what the team league does mean to the players involved


That's actually pretty awesome. We see a lot bout how the korean teams are interested in how the foreigners are doing but to see that kind of excitement over a foreign all-kill is pretty awesome :-) The guy in a white shirt is clearly a fenix fan!


i honestly doubt they care alot about who beat oGs, it was more about that they go to the Playoffs if oGs looses. And when they saw MC falling they knew they were in.
MKP | Maru | Nada | Boxer | Supernova | Keen
Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
September 08 2011 11:12 GMT
#59
Great write up, thanks!
Fatze
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Germany1342 Posts
September 08 2011 11:33 GMT
#60
DRG <3

nice article btw =)
Comfort from bottles, cheers from beers the guitars are our weapons and we know how to kill!
Paladia
Profile Joined August 2003
802 Posts
September 08 2011 14:15 GMT
#61
I think it is really odd that SaSe isn't playing for f.united. The main problem is that f.united right now only have a couple of good players (Thorzain and Naniwa mainly, but Thorzain leaving for Sweden now).

I even asked SaSe about it and he wants to join f.united but was never asked, which is a shame.
I can no longer rest under the tree of wisdom, since you have axed down the roots feeding it.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
September 08 2011 14:52 GMT
#62
mrbamboo so manner! Awesome write-up, thanks everyone
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Furycrab
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada456 Posts
September 08 2011 15:57 GMT
#63
I'll give Bamboo props for a lot of the research he put into his team... Certainly learned some interesting things like Trading teams had no tax and various other things... I would really love if the format didn't have so many teams not playing at any given time.
Too tired to come up with something witty.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
September 09 2011 02:15 GMT
#64
I love the Sir Jolt appearance very nice write up hehe.. I love the gif of Artosis in the Clide section, really baller. Also props to bamboo for taking GSTL Fantasy league to another level!

Thanks TL writers!
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
saritenite
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Singapore1680 Posts
September 09 2011 07:40 GMT
#65
Oi don't diss ACE
TG_Lelouch
Profile Joined August 2011
United States134 Posts
September 09 2011 10:56 GMT
#66
Excellent write up as always
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
September 10 2011 20:12 GMT
#67
On September 08 2011 09:21 BigLighthouse wrote:
It just struck me that F.United were literally 1 map from making playoffs. If Thorzain had beaten TSL_Alive in that 1 Ace match they'd have made it. They really overacheived, especially considering how little depth they had. Im pretty excited for the playoffs even without them though.

He had a big lead in that game too. I don't want to talk 'what ifs' because so much could change, but if Thorzain hadn't let those BFHs into his mineral line he probably would have beaten Alive.

It almost seems a shame that IM will probably win after scraping into the playoffs, but I hope Prime wins after seeing that video of them celebrating the moment they qualified.
PartyBiscuit
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada4525 Posts
September 11 2011 17:40 GMT
#68
Not last place! F.UN was definitely a little bit bipolar in how they performed, but they really had some brilliant moments (and all of them coming from foreigners was something special).
the farm ends here
Jubio
Profile Joined June 2010
United States50 Posts
September 12 2011 00:04 GMT
#69
I'm surprised at the record that slayers is holding right now. Wonder whats going on with them to cause such a result?
LOL late game terran I "Manner cc is a must, but as a ceremony it was not quite enough, manner cc needs to have at least 5 SCVs doing it" - FBH I Savior broke my heart ;_;
Xaerkar
Profile Joined January 2011
United States230 Posts
September 12 2011 00:27 GMT
#70
Great write-up! The video of the Prime team's reaction to Fenix's win over MC was truly priceless.
Vektorique
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada24 Posts
September 12 2011 05:50 GMT
#71
IM Seems to be in less danger, having yet to unleash NesTea on the team league. It wouldn't be terribly surprising if they took down the championship. MVP's lineup never seems "deep" but DRG tends to count as ten or so players on his own so who knows.


Truest statement.
green.at
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Austria1459 Posts
September 12 2011 22:16 GMT
#72
i dont know DRG ( should call him Don Graegu btw), so the Don feels like a coinflip to me, but maybe i havent watched enough games the last few weeks...
Inputting special characters into chat should no longer cause the game to crash.
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
September 14 2011 05:00 GMT
#73
Good stuff. I went into this fantasy league never doing any fantasy league before. I picked who I thought was good from previous GSL matches, people I liked to see play and win, and didn't think much beyond that. I'm going to put more thought into next season with the advice given here :D
fant0m
Profile Joined May 2010
964 Posts
September 14 2011 11:04 GMT
#74
On September 08 2011 06:57 heyoka wrote:
Oh, also, its all best of nine. Previoust GSTL finals have shown that the long format is conducive for great series.

TSL, having finally won me over late in the season, is probably in a more delicate position than they would like to be. While they have some strong players, their lineup is somewhere near exactly nine players and that is including stars such as (T)Ultimate and (Z)Ragnarok. What are they going to do if Revival gets sick?

HoSeo could suffer a similar fate, it will be interesting to see how the longer series effects each team. IM Seems to be in less danger, having yet to unleash NesTea on the team league. It wouldn't be terribly surprising if they took down the championship. MVP's lineup never seems "deep" but DRG tends to count as ten or so players on his own so who knows.



Slight correction here, for a BO9 you only need 5 players minimum. If you have 5 losses, you're out already.^^

You need as many players in a BOX winners series as you need wins to win (or losses to lose, same number).

Other than that, great writeup!
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
September 18 2011 21:20 GMT
#75
TSL lost me so many liquibet points T_T
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
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