On March 04 2011 11:41 ZasZ. wrote:
Wow had no idea that Jinro had so little confidence in his TvP. I just assumed it was a scouting error and if he had known in advance about the proxy Stargate he could have adapted to it.

It would be unfortunate if T was forced into some kind of Thor opening to death push a Phoenix opening because it's so easily stopped by a variety of other P tech trees.

The constant dropping thats required to stay in TvP is also really hard to do with Phoenixes on the map...will be interesting to see how players adapt to this, but if anybody can help Jinro with his TvP its MC. On a side note I have to agree with him, MC is looking solid to take this entire tournament.

Hmm, I was wondering why mixing in a little mech wouldn't have worked. It seems like if you have 1-2 thors beneath your vikings, the phoenix wouldn't survive long enough to chew through them like they could otherwise. Maybe the earlier economic harass was just too much and the midgame composition wasn't the problem. I dunno.

Edit:
I just don't think it forces "a thor opening" any more than mutas force a thor opening. You get the thor because it's amazing and you only need a small number of them, not because you're forced into something you don't want to do. My 2 cents.

Darkkal

United States60 Posts

March 04 2011 03:09 GMT

#24

Jinro is wearing the razor starcraft 2 headset!!!! goddamnit i want one soooo bad.

JoeCrow

United States167 Posts

March 04 2011 03:13 GMT

#25

Kinda dissappointed with Jinro's response. He lives in a house with some of the best protoss and a ton of talented people, but he has no idea what to do against a phoenix build? I feel like he has all of these resources to tap into and then turns around and says he had no game plan against a phonix build. A poor excuse imo.

I love jinro as much as the next guy, and have been cheering for him the whole way, but am I the only one who thinks this? (flame shield up)

ribboo

Sweden1842 Posts

March 04 2011 03:19 GMT

#26

On March 04 2011 12:06 Vorlik wrote:

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Vikings Jinro! Vikings!

the damage was alrdy done by the time he could've gotten enough vikings out

CharlieBrownsc

Canada598 Posts

March 04 2011 03:23 GMT

#27

I really didn't enjoy the write-up style

it was too slangy and there were little play-on-words that just didn't translate. Not chirping, but I'd stick to a more regular style

also, first game of rets just started getting written about like 10 minutes in???

Alphaes

United States651 Posts

March 04 2011 03:23 GMT

#28

On March 04 2011 12:13 JoeCrow wrote:
Kinda dissappointed with Jinro's response. He lives in a house with some of the best protoss and a ton of talented people, but he has no idea what to do against a phoenix build? I feel like he has all of these resources to tap into and then turns around and says he had no game plan against a phonix build. A poor excuse imo.

I love jinro as much as the next guy, and have been cheering for him the whole way, but am I the only one who thinks this? (flame shield up)

Honestly, I think very few Terrans these days are very comfortable facing Protoss, especially if they want to play macro games.

Sabu113

United States11057 Posts

March 04 2011 03:26 GMT

#29

It's interesting to note how jinro's changed with the tone of this interview.
It feels like before we would be saying "Oh you shouldn't feel bad you did farily well and HongUn is a semifinalist..." now it's perfectly appropriate "Hongun? That **** **** Yeah better shave that hair and get shit done."

Champion's mentality.

It's nice to see someone else being allowed a chance to get to the Ro4

Lori_ftw

Germany286 Posts

March 04 2011 03:26 GMT

#30

TvP for Terran is as hard as ZvT for Zerg. Colossi/HTs are just too damn good against BioBalls.

Mawi

Sweden4365 Posts

March 04 2011 03:28 GMT

#31

haha jinro i proxy <3 love that comment

beat farm

United States478 Posts

March 04 2011 03:30 GMT

#32

jinro is such a boss. gets numbers while being to drunk to write them down.

Warrice

United States565 Posts

March 04 2011 03:31 GMT

#33

They all say code s round of 32 ret and moonglade went out in code a round of 32 and jinro was ro 16 code s

MangoTango

United States3670 Posts

March 04 2011 03:34 GMT

#34

Is that everyone other than HuK out now? D:

Azzur

Australia6259 Posts

March 04 2011 03:36 GMT

#35

You can sense the hurt and disappointment in the interview. But that is a good sign! It's the motivation for him to train even harder and do better next season!

bkrow

Australia8532 Posts

March 04 2011 03:39 GMT

#36

On March 04 2011 12:34 MangoTango wrote:
Is that everyone other than HuK out now? D:

From Liquid yeah but there are still oGs guys in like MC, TheWind and NaDa ..

Darpa

Canada4413 Posts

March 04 2011 03:41 GMT

#37

On March 04 2011 12:08 skrzmark wrote:

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Yeah or a thor just owns all phoenix and breaks force fields.

Yeah because Im sure he hadnt thought of that. You guys should be playing in the GSL!

TvP Is a hard matchup to play, partly because protoss hard counters are really effective against terran units. (ex. Immortals, are much stronger vs thors and tanks, than against roaches, simply because losing a roach is no big deal, losing a thor or a couple tanks is hugely expensive.)Pheonixs are a really great unit and hard to play against. I really dont think giving obvious suggestions is really going to provide alot of help given the varying skill and unit composition involved.

Sad for Jinro though, He'll get that tvp solved soon and then we will have a foreign GSL champ! =D

Fighter

Korea (South)1531 Posts

March 04 2011 03:44 GMT

#38

Pretty bummed that the foreigners haven't being doing well in the GSL this season, but at least we still have Huk to root for! I do feel confident that Jinro will be back and remain a contender though. Haypro and Moonglade I'm a bit more worried about, and while I feel confident that Ret could do well, I fear that he may be getting discouraged.

Stay in there guys!