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[GSL] “Iron Chins & Former Champs” - Ro16 Recap - Page 2

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MisterKatosS
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
France352 Posts
December 09 2010 19:47 GMT
#21
nice, I just got one deception : in depht foreigner coverage lack players grades !
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36389 Posts
December 09 2010 20:26 GMT
#22
On December 10 2010 04:47 MisterKatosS wrote:
nice, I just got one deception : in depht foreigner coverage lack players grades !

That's true, we'll fix this in the next newspost.
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mDuo13
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States307 Posts
December 09 2010 20:36 GMT
#23
Sounds like a pretty exciting round.

Now, it may sound controversial to you, but I think it's a good thing to have a player like BitByBit in the GSL. Why? Well, aside from giving us a villain ("ooh, curse that cheesing Terran!") it shows how far cheese can -- and can't -- go in this game, forces really good players like FD to play a slightly different kind of game, and finally, it televises to us how to fend off cheese at the highest levels. I agree with the summary, that it's bad for the game if someone like B3 makes it all the way to the finals, but making it to the Ro16 before being eliminated by a truly all-star player is perfect for the tourney.
athief
Profile Joined November 2010
United States85 Posts
December 09 2010 20:44 GMT
#24
Lol at the BBB F rating.

Great writeups as usual, way easier than catching the stream at work.
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legendre20
Profile Joined November 2010
United States316 Posts
December 09 2010 21:14 GMT
#25
Great write up! Lookin' forward to watching the rest of GSL as well as watchin' Jinro! Not sure who is going to win, but MC is lookin' like the favorite o.o
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blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 09 2010 21:15 GMT
#26
On December 10 2010 02:11 SUGGY wrote:
the guy was playing fruitdealer. you know that guy, former gsl winner?

im sure this b3 guy knew he couldnt beat fruitdealer in a straight up game so why should he concede by trying to?

im sure he practiced his cheeses specifically for fruitdealers builds.

if you were playing fruitdealer, what would you think your only chance of winning is? the guy went for what was calculated by him, the best chance for him to win... which was trying to cheese one of the best players in the world.

you guys are crazy for saying hes an embarassment for sc2. it's a strategy game and he did was he thought was the best chance for him to win. theres more than 1 way to play this game, to be honest theres no rules on how you can play it.


lol? You do know that in every single game he played int he GSL (all tvz's I think too) he all ind every single game and did some cheesy build every single game? He is bad for starcraft 2 if he can only all in/cheese every game do you really want to see him go far?
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Zerokaiser
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada885 Posts
December 09 2010 21:28 GMT
#27
HERESY ERROR


It was a banana and 2 oranges.
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MaxField
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States2386 Posts
December 09 2010 22:03 GMT
#28
Man, you gotta love BitbyBIt, haha
"Zerg, so bad it loses to hydras" IdrA.
palookieblue
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia326 Posts
December 09 2010 22:50 GMT
#29
Pity you had to mess up an otherwise excellent recap by bashing on players whose style you didn't agree with. Then you're bringing up 'integrity' as well, I mean really? With words like 'horrible', 'abysmal', 'garbage' and 'infect', not to mention 'justice', it sounds like you're writing some propaganda speech. Cut the overwhelming vendetta/ bias.

Fruitdealer vs B3 was instructive from the zerg perspective on how to crush telegraphed all-ins from Terran.
oyoyo
SaYyId
Profile Joined August 2010
Portugal277 Posts
December 09 2010 23:13 GMT
#30
I like Jinro, but I like MC too :S
If jinro doesn't win I'll be sad.
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iinsom
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia339 Posts
December 09 2010 23:26 GMT
#31
Excellent write up. I hope Jinro will advance, but i feel MC will be too strong.
Kazzabiss
Profile Joined December 2010
1006 Posts
December 09 2010 23:45 GMT
#32
I think we all agree that BitbyBitPrime is an AWFUL player, in that, if I may quote the player grade "He is cynically one-dimensional, with substandard mechanics, and abysmal game sense." which is completely true. However, For Hayder and NewDawn (the two players he beat) it should be eye opening, because you WILL run into a player once in a while doing that, and if you lose to the same type of all-in twice in a row from the same player, then obviously another more 'standard' player can whip out that strategy and destroy you. It sort of just shows a major hole in their play.
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thekibk
Profile Joined April 2010
United States116 Posts
December 10 2010 00:30 GMT
#33
Kinda sad that the best ZvT games in a while are unwatchable (without pay). Instead we get game 1 (kinda dull) of Nestea vs Maka, instead of game 2 and 3, which from reading, sound nergasmically good. Maybe in the distant future they'll release these seasons for free.
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vectorix108
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4633 Posts
December 10 2010 00:38 GMT
#34
great stuff. i enjoyed reading this
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fuzzy_panda
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
New Zealand1681 Posts
December 10 2010 02:44 GMT
#35
good stuff here guys! allows me to actually know whats good to watch and skip the boring stuff
HELLOKITTY(SS)
Profile Joined November 2010
United States81 Posts
December 10 2010 03:03 GMT
#36
I'm Highly dissapointed that you gave BBBP a F on the score scale.

He clearly outpreformed most other players throughout the tournament and gave it his best shot vs one of the best Zergs in the world and you couldnt appreciate that?

Thank you for this writeup, now i understand that it isnt worth reading your opinions.
KITTY POWAH
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
December 10 2010 03:40 GMT
#37
On December 10 2010 12:03 HELLOKITTY(SS) wrote:
I'm Highly dissapointed that you gave BBBP a F on the score scale.

He clearly outpreformed most other players throughout the tournament and gave it his best shot vs one of the best Zergs in the world and you couldnt appreciate that?

Thank you for this writeup, now i understand that it isnt worth reading your opinions.


Outperformed?

Thank you for your post, now I understand that it isn't worth reading
oprandom
Profile Joined November 2010
United States33 Posts
December 10 2010 03:57 GMT
#38
By your logic Fruitdealer deserves an F as a player as he goes 6pool in GSL. But no, it's only cheese if Terran or Protoss does it haha.
I will random you
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
December 10 2010 04:11 GMT
#39
On December 10 2010 12:57 oprandom wrote:
By your logic Fruitdealer deserves an F as a player as he goes 6pool in GSL. But no, it's only cheese if Terran or Protoss does it haha.


He did it once.


1


Moonling
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States987 Posts
December 10 2010 06:11 GMT
#40
On December 10 2010 12:03 HELLOKITTY(SS) wrote:
I'm Highly dissapointed that you gave BBBP a F on the score scale.

He clearly outpreformed most other players throughout the tournament and gave it his best shot vs one of the best Zergs in the world and you couldnt appreciate that?

Thank you for this writeup, now i understand that it isnt worth reading your opinions.


He wasn't grading his entire GSL performance he was grading his performance against FD. He got destroyed both games, and did basically the same all-in both games both failed miserably what grade would you give him?
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