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The Liquid Weekly #5

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September 10th, 2010 01:33 GMT

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TLO Plays the GSL - September 10th 2010


TLO throws down tomorrow in his first televised tournament in Korea, and we hope you'll be there with us as we root for our man with the plan! [More]


Announcing TLAF-Liquid`Ret - September 9th 2010


In case you've been living under a rock, we announced yesterday that Dutch Zerg player Jos "Ret" De Kroon would be joining Liquid. [More]



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TLO Plays the GSL - September 10th 2010


TLO throws down tomorrow in his first televised tournament in Korea, and we hope you'll be there with us as we root for our man with the plan! All reports from Seoul suggest that he has prepared well and is ready to deliver the usual TLO-style beatdown.

Of course, his opponent is no pushover. Hwaseung OZ progamer tHuNdeR AKA Losira grew up on the Korean training regimen, and has obviously been pouring his hours into SC2 since of late. Of course, we have no doubt that TLO is gonna tear right through him. Good luck kid, you're gonna need it!

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TLO considers which BBQ sauce to use as he devours his next Zerg.

Tomorrow is D-Day for TheLittleOne, and also by extension for all of us here at Team Liquid. As the last Liquidian in the GSL, a lot is riding on his young shoulders, but we have no doubt that our favourite Terran will step up and deliver. If you're around tomorrow (and you better be!), do join us in the live report thread and on IRC as we root for Dario. Strength in numbers, boys and girls, strength in numbers.

September 10th 2010, 18:00 KST

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Announcing TLAF-Liquid`Ret - September 9th 2010


In case you've been living under a rock, we announced yesterday that Dutch Zerg player Jos "Ret" De Kroon would be joining Liquid. Consequently, TL went nuts and restraining orders had to issued against several people as fans thronged our Zerg-in-Hwaiting.

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Already read the announcement and included interview? Feel a little let down after all the hype and want to actually see the man play? Tune in this weekend to TaKe' Weekend Rumble and you can do just that!



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The Swede speaks.

Hi Jonathan, and thank you for joining us. Where are you right now and what were you doing before taking a break to talk to us?

At a very nice, but overly air-conditioned, PC bang, playing Starcraft 2, obviously.


Haha, nice. So do most of your evenings look like this at the moment? In fact, why don't you give us a run through of your average day.

Hmm… it’d usually look something like wake up, shower, breakfast, play ping pong, head to pc bang to play SC2 (our computers only arrived recently). Then we'll usually head out for some Korean BBQ or some other type of dinner, and then back to playing. There has also been a lot of just exploring/shopping etc, as well as some drinking obviously (when your ID is a Soju brand, you gotta have it right? It’s not bad!). We finally got our computers just a couple of days ago.

At one point, there was a rather hilarious Internet error. For some reason, every computer except 1 could connect. After changing things around, we ended up with the reverse. No computer except one could connect. We finally settled for the all but one connected solution, since we are moving soon anyway.


Speaking of PC Bangs - what's the situ like there? Are you guys the only ones playing SC2? What other games are the Koreans around you usually playing?

There's usually someone else around playing SC2, but most people play random online games (as expected).


Nobody still playing Broodwar?

Oh, sure there are. Probably about the same as SC2, in my limited sample. Btw, speaking of PC Bangs, gotta plug the Sweet Story PC bang in Seongnam! so nice =]


You've wanted to be in Seoul since you were a teenager, and now, you finally are! What are the highlights of your Korea experience so far?

I’m not sure, it’s all been pretty great - most people seem to be pretty disillusioned by the progaming scene, but so far it’s actually been exactly what I expected, and in a good way. I guess the best part is how extremely nice everyone has been so far, really going out of their way to make us feel welcome and helping out whenever there's a problem. Korea is just overall pretty great, at least when you are in the situation I am in now - I am sure that it has its problems like every other count, but right now they aren’t really visible.


You've now been living and playing together with both Liquid and oGs for a few weeks - has the experience so far been exactly as you expected it? Were TLO and Nazgul how you thought they would be?

More or less yeah, I expected them to be really nice guys and they are, Nazgul needs a ping-pong nerf though. He’s the current house champ. So imba! TLO is a walking encyclopaedia. I’d pick him over Wikipedia any day.


What about oGs?

Even friendlier than expected actually, they've been actively helping out with everything from getting games to just making sure everyone feels welcome. The older guys really seem to take on a lot of responsibility in that regard, and it’s very nice.

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Liquid` hang with oGs at the GSL quals.


So, the GSL - tell us all about it. Your loss was unfortunate, but how was it as an experience, and what did you take away from it?

Well, when I initially went I’d assumed I’d lose the first one, there was just so much to take care of and I wasn’t in very good shape. However, looking at the quality of the opponents, I kinda realized that maybe this wasn’t the case, but unfortunately the day just wasn’t very good.
It started off with me getting something like 3 hours of sleep, nearly throwing up on the way to the GOMstudios, and then spending 10 hours in a cold sweat while waiting for my games.

By the time I was ready to play, my mind was completely burned out, really. I ended up doing a build I hadn’t planned, in a way you should never play it - the first game was defensible as I though I was playing some fish, but the second was just very bad by me.

However, it turns out the guy played was actually quite good - 65% winrate on asia and somewhere in the top 20. So, even on a good day I’d probably have lost. I guess the biggest thing I took away from it is that I need to make sure I get a lot of rest before I play.


We asked TLO last week about laddering on KR. How has it been for you? What similarities and differences do you see between EU and KR?

The difference between really great players isn’t that big, but there’s A LOT more of them on KR.


So in terms of your own play - what areas do you feel you have developed the most in during these few weeks?

Hmmm, tightening up of BOs, and just paying attention to lots of little things I usually didn’t notice on my own. Naz and TLO have been really helpful with this. Also, a slight tone-down of aggression in TvT, as you can’t get away with as much when you are constantly playing a higher calibre of players. You could get a bit lazy on europe I guess. Adding to this, I wanna mention a coaching session by oGsGon that really helped me realize a lot of things I should be paying attention to. It was very nice.


So, apart from laddering, are you inhousing too? Which oGs players have you enjoyed playing with the most?

I dunno, I’ve played most of them but I usually try to ladder since I think I'll be more useful if I get better first, even though I’ve done OK. I’ve played JangMinChul a lot though.


So, how has your Korean been going? Naz and TLO both said you were doing really well!

It’s improving, drinking with Gon helps a lot =] TLO pointed out I’m like a child who just learned to read, Always reading every korean sign I see =] It’s really nice when ordering food, to at least be able to tell the dishes apart.


Awesome! Alright, we're gonna wrap it up here then, Jinro. Anything you'd like to tell TL as we continue to root for you guys in Korea?

Thanks for the support, and I hope next time I can make it through - Spunky told me that nobody who's ever been with oGs has turned out to be anything but successful, and I hope it will hold true for me as well =]

We have no doubt it will. Take care and all the best as you train hard!


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Our replay section this week is powered singlehandedly by our Swedish son of the swarm Haypro. Enjoy!

Haypro vs Pokerofkas on Metalpolis (ZvT)
Haypro vs Trek on Metalpolis (ZvT)



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This week, we bring you some TLAF-Liquid`Ret's play from the early beta, his showdown vs Infernal in the first ever SC2 Liquibition hosted by TL.

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Which GSL games, plays or players did you enjoy the most so far, and why?



TLAF-Liquid`Tyler
PoltPrime vs JangMinChul on Metalopolis. PoltPrime had a solid and exciting game plan that he executed beautifully against a very solid player in JangMinChul.

TLAF-Liquid`Haypro
The BC play by August vs Spunky was the most interesting because you could see how surprised the Protoss was when the BCs came and he had almost sentries and zealots only.

TLAF-Liquid`Nazgul
The quality has been pretty poor so far. Don't be disappointed though because this was to be expected. Some qualifier groups were not very good causing some not very good players to qualify.

The highest level games have been Polt vs JangMinChul who are both very solid players, but these games too were rather one sided (no not because of imbalance MinChul simply did not perform up to his ability). Most other games that featured good players saw them destroy their not-so-wellknown opponents rather easily. Think of Idra, Cool, Inca and TOP. Ro32 is going to be amazing but Ro64 is separating the men from the boys. I'm looking forward to every match that features top level players and of course TLO against the 18 year old ex-Hwaseung progamer should be great.

TLAF-Liquid`Jinro
I've barely seen any, and all the ones I've seen have been terrible.


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Liquid is currently blessed with a sponsor that just keeps on giving, and we're now ready to share some of TLAF's awesomeness with you too! Thanks to The Little App Factory, we're going to be giving away a TL Winged Horse t-shirt every week.

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The Winged Horse, as worn by Liquid and every TLer worth his or her salt.

We're changing things up a bit this week, and are happy to present the

TLAF Cheerful Contest


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This awesome canvas is courtesy of our favourite paintbrush, pachi!

How Do I enter?
1) Grab the cheerful template seen above.

2) Make a cheerful for TLO!

3) Use it in the Live Report thread for GSL Day 6 (TLO vs Losira). Posting your cheerful in this (The Liquid Weekly) thread will not count as an official contest entry.

A Cheerful? What's that?
Cheerfuls are fan made placards which Korean progamers traditionally display in their booths when they play on live TV. Here at TL, we use them in LR threads to support players and teams we like.

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When will I know if I've won or not?
The winner of this week's contest will be announced in next week's Weekly.

Is is true that wearing the Winged Horse will immediately increase my SC2 skills by 50%?
Although we cannot confirm this, our users have claimed that the t-shirt has significantly changed the way they play the game.

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Congratulations to TL user Intense for winning last week's t-shirt giveaway. Please contact 'riptide' via PM for instructions on how to get your shirt!





Liquid` is proudly sponsored by The Little App Factory, makers of fine applications for Windows and Mac OS X and fans of great Starcraft! Their flagship program, iRip allows you to recover your music from iPods - a life saver if you, like many of us, do tech support for friends and family. In fact, for a limited time, you can use the coupon code TEAMLIQUID to get 25% off when you get TLAF products!
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DrMedic
Profile Joined March 2010
United States37 Posts
September 10 2010 01:38 GMT
#2
awesome! can't wait to see TLO vs Losira.

TLO FIGHTING!
lolwut
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
September 10 2010 01:38 GMT
#3
Awesome new article!
Can't wait to see what people make with the template! ^__^
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NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
September 10 2010 01:47 GMT
#4
Amazing write up as usual! Love the new additions!
FrostedMiniWeet wrote: I like winning because it validates all the bloody time I waste playing SC2.
chocoed
Profile Joined June 2007
United States398 Posts
September 10 2010 01:47 GMT
#5
Great article. I'm loving all the interviews.
My life for Aiur!
rlagksquf
Profile Joined May 2010
New Zealand153 Posts
September 10 2010 01:48 GMT
#6
TLO fighting!
FortuneSyn
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1826 Posts
September 10 2010 01:49 GMT
#7
Whoaa dangerous reference there with D-day and TLO my friend!!
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
September 10 2010 01:52 GMT
#8
LOL at the winning caption thing, that's great. He deserved to win.
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Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
September 10 2010 01:52 GMT
#9
hope for some nice cheerfuls
deathgod6
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States5064 Posts
September 10 2010 01:58 GMT
#10
wowow I'm excited to see TLO play. Foreigners playing televised SC in Korea is such a rare sight.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
September 10 2010 02:14 GMT
#11
<3 Liquid
TRUEESPORTS || your days as a respected member of team liquid are over
lac29
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1485 Posts
September 10 2010 02:34 GMT
#12
I always find it interesting that the progamers say that the quality of players isn't good ... yet they can't beat these bad players =/. TLO is the only one left ... I wonder what the TLA-Liquid expectation was going into this thing. I'm willing to bet they didn't expect only 1 of their players to be left =/.
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
September 10 2010 02:41 GMT
#13
Go TLO!
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
Masq
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1792 Posts
September 10 2010 02:49 GMT
#14
goodluck TLO
Gleve
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States206 Posts
September 10 2010 02:49 GMT
#15
Can't wait for TLO!
♞
kerpal
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United Kingdom2695 Posts
September 10 2010 03:04 GMT
#16
hahaha. that vod is hilarious... ret gets roaches... ret wins!
3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
September 10 2010 03:09 GMT
#17
TLO being a walking encyclopedia doesn't surprise me very much considering how many different strategies I've seen him do. The question is would Jinzo take him over Teamliquid.net for information on players and help with strategies and everything else TL.net offers any day?

Also, GL TLO GOGOGO!!!!
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WaZuP
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Germany487 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 03:12:34
September 10 2010 03:09 GMT
#18
go TLO make ur homecountry proud

also last week contest winner pic is really nice :D
PangO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Chile1870 Posts
September 10 2010 03:18 GMT
#19
Great VOD !
Good Luck to you guys !
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FuDDx *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States5008 Posts
September 10 2010 03:54 GMT
#20
Man you guys rock.If you ever need a Team Liquid rep that knows balloons/magic let me know hahaha.
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NeCroPoTeNce
Profile Joined July 2009
United States513 Posts
September 10 2010 03:58 GMT
#21
Haha. That picture caption is full of win!! ^^
zerg all the way! Lee Jaedong hwaiting
Anomarad
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada565 Posts
September 10 2010 04:05 GMT
#22
Do we have to post the "cheerful" before the game? Like what's the deadline?
riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 04:08:13
September 10 2010 04:06 GMT
#23
On September 10 2010 13:05 Anomarad wrote:
Do we have to post the "cheerful" before the game? Like what's the deadline?

Before the end of today's games is fine!

Anything after that would make little sense, especially seeing that it's a Live Report thread.
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canucks12
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada812 Posts
September 10 2010 04:59 GMT
#24
D-day turned out pretty badly for the Germans...

Regardless, go TLO
Rah
Profile Joined February 2010
United States973 Posts
September 10 2010 05:18 GMT
#25
On September 10 2010 13:59 canucks12 wrote:
D-day turned out pretty badly for the Germans...

Regardless, go TLO


lol so true. Bad wording there.
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DreamScaR
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Canada2127 Posts
September 10 2010 05:19 GMT
#26
GoGo TLO! =D
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riptide
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
5673 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-10 05:24:53
September 10 2010 05:22 GMT
#27
On September 10 2010 14:18 Rah wrote:
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On September 10 2010 13:59 canucks12 wrote:
D-day turned out pretty badly for the Germans...

Regardless, go TLO


lol so true. Bad wording there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Day_(military_term)

"D-Day is a term often used in military parlance to denote the day on which a combat attack or operation is to be initiated. "D-Day" often represents a variable, designating the day upon which some significant event will occur or has occurred;"

I can understand the confusion, but this is what I meant. The term is definitely not Normandy specific.
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BenKen
Profile Joined August 2009
United States860 Posts
September 10 2010 05:27 GMT
#28
Oh man, I'm going to try as hard as possible to stay up for this. So far I've fallen asleep every single night trying to watch GSL. At this point the 20 bucks or whatever it is for the vods is looking pretty good.

Oh well, TLO Fiiiiiighting!!!!
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Cuh
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States403 Posts
September 10 2010 05:49 GMT
#29
Were Roaches Only One Supply Then?
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royal.cze
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada287 Posts
September 10 2010 06:16 GMT
#30
"I've barely seen any, and all the ones I've seen have been terrible"

this is my favorite quote.
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
September 10 2010 06:18 GMT
#31
ahaha, the caption contest winner is a worthy and deserving of a shirt. GLHF TLO!
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Scheefe
Profile Joined May 2010
Netherlands226 Posts
September 10 2010 06:59 GMT
#32
TLO Fighting!!
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nemahsys
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada457 Posts
September 10 2010 07:13 GMT
#33
that guys analysis of sc2 vs bw in the ret video is retarded.

other than that, awesome weekly.
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OPSavioR
Profile Joined March 2010
Sweden1465 Posts
September 10 2010 08:20 GMT
#34
TLO FIGHTING!
i dunno lol
DarkJackalX
Profile Joined April 2010
United States165 Posts
September 10 2010 09:48 GMT
#35
TLOWNAGE
MC - Grubby - Huk - WhiteRa - iNcontroL || Nada - QXC - MKP - ThorZaIN - Boxer || July - NesTea - DRG - LoSirA - Sen || FIGHTING!
speedphlux
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria962 Posts
September 10 2010 13:02 GMT
#36
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Hope Google Translator didn't made me look stoopid.
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Haggis`NZ
Profile Joined November 2009
New Zealand18 Posts
September 10 2010 13:35 GMT
#37
what a wanker of a comment from Jinro
Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
September 10 2010 14:16 GMT
#38
@speedphlux you need to post it in the GSL thread linked in the OP
Bartundar
AntiLegend
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany247 Posts
September 10 2010 14:17 GMT
#39
thanks for a very well done article with lots of intresting information!

here a suggestion for the next one: some pictures of the tl-ogs place would be really nice, maybe even a (short) video tour?
MarioMD
Profile Joined February 2010
United States22 Posts
September 10 2010 14:26 GMT
#40
Good luck TLO!
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Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
September 10 2010 15:06 GMT
#41
Awesome news! want that t-shirt! to bad my paint skills is the shit
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skAnarky
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada140 Posts
September 10 2010 15:10 GMT
#42
Man too bad I didn't check TL before I went to GSL, I could have made one to show live!

Next time!
LolnoobInsanity
Profile Joined May 2010
United States183 Posts
September 10 2010 16:40 GMT
#43
On September 10 2010 12:04 kerpal wrote:
hahaha. that vod is hilarious... ret gets roaches... ret wins!


Please spoiler that, wtf.
rally_point
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada458 Posts
September 10 2010 17:32 GMT
#44
Thanks, great read!

Bad luck for Jinro... sounds like he was sick or something.

and... TLO FIGHTING!!
OminouS
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden1343 Posts
September 10 2010 17:55 GMT
#45
I wanted the shirt. Would have made a nice B-day gift =/
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Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
September 10 2010 19:17 GMT
#46
Wow that VOD was pretty interesting, was I the only one who was blown away by how much the game has changed since then?

PS TLO TLO TLO :D
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Wawa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States215 Posts
September 10 2010 23:28 GMT
#47
So did tlo won?
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KaluGOSU
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States171 Posts
September 11 2010 01:26 GMT
#48
TLO fighting forever!
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Hunch
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada336 Posts
September 11 2010 03:06 GMT
#49
I've barely seen any, and all the ones I've seen have been terrible.

god i love Jinro

go Liquid!
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Liquid`Jinro
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Sweden33719 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-11 05:29:32
September 11 2010 05:28 GMT
#50
On September 10 2010 22:35 Beer-beer wrote:
what a wanker of a comment from Jinro

That was actually not meant to be posted =[

I had only seen like 3 games and they had been very bad, so I didn't want to answer, but I think riptide thought it was the answer
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September 11 2010 12:12 GMT
#51
lol FA
TanGeng
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sanya12364 Posts
September 12 2010 03:09 GMT
#52
Is ret going to go back to Korea?
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GrapeD
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada679 Posts
September 12 2010 06:17 GMT
#53
Lol that comics funny.
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Champi
Profile Joined March 2010
1422 Posts
September 12 2010 08:14 GMT
#54
good luck TLO from australia
Nucklehead
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2 Posts
September 14 2010 00:58 GMT
#55
nice shirt.
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Craixs
Profile Joined January 2008
Denmark170 Posts
September 15 2010 07:03 GMT
#56
I love this contest, I just need som skills in artwork.


Btw - Why isen't tyler in gsl? I thought he wanted to go all the way to become a top top player? :s

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