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by Arrian, motbob, and flamewheelEmpty Throne Part 1 by flamewheel It is shaping up to be a dark, dark night. Heavy clouds blot out the stars, and the moon is nowhere to be seen. A mournful wind blows across the land, shrieking across the plains, heading toward the mountains in the distance. People with bad knees and animals can feel the pressure in the air—a storm is brewing, a storm so bad that Greece had not experienced one like it for the past two hundred years. As the rain and lightning start, a swirling vortex forms, sucking in the nearby clouds. It grows larger and larger and spins faster and faster with every passing second, and people watching the vortex descend upon the land gasp in fear. As the tornado touches down, it starts toward the distant mountains, toward Mount Olympus.
A man stands on a balcony near the top of Olympus. He stands regally, arms folded across his chest, watching the cyclone make its way toward the mountain. Rain splatters off his ornate cloak, and water drips off the scepter that he carries in his right hand.
The whirlwind hits the balcony, engulfing the man within it. However, instead of sucking both man and balcony into itself, the tornado instead starts to disperse. As the clouds clear and escape back to the sky, another man was left standing upon the balcony. He is dressed much more simply than the first, wearing a brown traveling cloak. However, there is no doubting this certain air the traveler has around him, for he also carries a golden rod in his hand. The two men greet each other, and turn around to go inside the mountain. The interior of the mountain is sparsely furnished, with naught but four golden thrones placed around an ornate table in the middle of the large cavern. As the two men walk into the room, two of these thrones are already occupied. One of the occupants sits with a bowl of fruit, though interestingly enough, he only picks out the banana pieces to eat, for they are his favourite. His jeweled rod lies on the table, and he seems to give it little attention. The other individual sits quietly, playing with gold coins that he pulls out of a pouch. Unlike the other three, this man’s golden staff is nowhere to be seen. Clink, clink, clink. The one eating fruit looks up as the two men walked in, and address the newcomer: “Hell of an entrance as always.” The traveler chuckles. “Works great if you’re in a rush, you know.” The man playing with the coins doesn’t even look up.
Clink, clink, clink.
And so the four have convened.
The traveler sits down in his throne, and then turns to the first, “Well, you called us all here for something. What is it?” The first man sighs, regal cape fluttering on his shoulders. “I’ll make this short,” he said, “We’ve all know something is wrong. The constellations are disappearing. Greece is plagued by terrible times, and all of us are powerless to do anything about it.” The traveler shifts uncomfortably in his seat, and whispers softly, “I can feel it as well. Our… power is not as it used to be. We’re losing order. Why can’t we maintain the balance?” Clink, clink, clink. The fruit bowl falls to the floor as a heavy fist slams into the table. “I will go teach those mortals how it is done. Leave it to me, I shall straighten out the world.” The first man smiles slightly, “Heh, that’s what you said three years ago… then you got married. Afterward, your power level...” He clears his throat, pauses for a second, and then continues, “Gentlemen, we know what must be done, though all of us have been refusing to admit it for the last few years…” The traveler angrily breaks in at this point, “No, no, no! We swore that there would only be four, four I say!” The first man continues unperturbed. “Don’t you remember? There was a fifth throne forged, a long time ago. It was meant for that dagger-wielding assassin, after he toppled our resident coin-flipper long ago during that dreary March.” At this, the man playing with the coins seems to stiffen, but still chooses not to utter anything.
Clink, clink, clink.
The third man picks the bowl of fruit back up. “Now now, even though that assassin toppled him from the skies, he still couldn’t hold it up after that, and so as I have said all these years, he is undeserving of the throne.” The kingly man held up his hand. “I wasn’t thinking about that one... There are two others that are more deserving of this throne, Flashius and Jaedos.” As the third man eats a piece of banana, he muses out loud, “Both of them have been around for a while, and each has had his ups and downs, though to be a god one must be uncontested…” The emperor smiled. “Exactly. Fate has deemed that there will be one last showdown tomorrow night between Flashius and Jaedos at the Arena of Seoulinete, one that will finally determine who is the stronger of the two. Whoever wins there… will be the one to inherit the fifth throne.”
The cloaked traveler grumbles, but concedes the point. “I guess… it’s our only way of maintaining the balance.” The bananas have all been eaten. “I concur with the two of you… now I guess we’ll just have to watch and wait for the outcome now…” Clink, clink, clink.
The four gods walk out to the balcony, looking for the city below. Hundreds of miles away, Seoulinete is completely quiet, though its inhabitants have no clue of what's to come...This MSL finals had it all: big venue, lots of fans, and the two greatest players in the world. MBC took a lot of precaution to make sure that there were no electronic fails or power outages this time, and so the stage was set for the Clash of the Titans. And so, on May 29th, Flash and Jaedong met to fight it out in a Bo5. Jaedong fought with the Golden Badge in mind and the chance to tie NaDa for the most Starleague trophies won. Flash, his first MSL and a chance for redemption after last year's NATE MSL finals as well as his recent Korean Air OSL finals loss to EffOrt. For those of you who didn't stay up watching the games, and for those of you that live under a rock and haven't checked out the VODs yet, here is a quick recap of the Hana Daetoo MSL finals, brought to you by Arrian and motbob. Battle Reports by Arrian and motbob
The MSL has been over and done now, and no matter what happened in the games, I'm pretty sure not many people predicted the actual results correctly. Here's Arrian and motbob with the results and summaries of the games played.
Game One: Triathlon - VOD + Show Spoiler [Battle Report] +Game one was on Triathlon, and it was a point of contention in the MSL preview article over what that map would mean for the games. Flash laid all of our predictions to waste when he went blind double command and walled off his natural, making him safe from any possible early ling shenanigans. Guess he learned from EffOrt... With this 14CC and solid wall-off, Flash set the game solidly in his favor from the very beginning, and Jaedong had to play catchup the entire way. Both players decided to play a fast teching game, and the Live Report thread was filled with comments of "mindgames!" Fortunately for the viewers, Jaedong isn't the best Zerg in the world for nothing, and after he scouted Flash's fast starport with a hidden drone... He responded by making one mutalisk after his spire popped, expanding to a fourth, and getting hive as soon as possible. Flash had one timing to hit; if he were to let Jaedong get to 4 gas hive, things would become very difficult. Flash made a whole bunch of barracks, researched siege mode, and got down to Jaedong's nat post-haste. Jaedong desperately threw up half a dozen sunks, and Flash just as desperately set to work tearing them down. Right before Flash could turn his attention to the nat hatchery, consume finished. But Jaedong's supply was incredibly low; his army was a group of lings and a couple defilers; he had lost all of his mutas in the defense of his nat; he didn't even have lurkers. Oh Jaedong, where are your units? After a minute, Flash got a few firebats and, with them in front of his army, overwhelmed Jaedong's natural while expanding himself. After that, it was basically over; Jaedong's ultras died easily to Flash's well-upgraded marines, and a dropship attack that killed all of the drones at Jaedong's backdoor base sealed the deal. Jaedong gambled that he would be able to stop the timing attack that Flash would make in reaction to a fast hive and fast Ultralisks. He could not, and that's what lost him the game. 1-0 Flash.
Game Two: Odd-Eye 2 VOD + Show Spoiler [Battle Report] +The second set opened exactly how you could expect. Flash walled off his natural and took it early, while Jaedong went 3 hatch before pool, which I think is a great idea to countering Flash's really solid TvZ openings, but of course it's gg if he decides to bunker rush. Flash didn't bunker rush though, and he also wasn't quite sure what was up, as Jaedong did a good job of blocking his ramp and keeping Flash's scout out as long as he could, and also hiding his spire timing by morphing it at his natural. Flash meanwhile teched to a super fast Starport, which I thought was really cool. One of the biggest advantages of a muta opening is how long it delays tech, but Flash being the genius he is teched fearlessly, adding the port before even finishing his second rax, which so naturally led to valkyaries to fend off any muta harass. Jaedong did make his move to spire tech, in good economic position and without any immediate threats. 9 mutas spawned at precisely the same time as a hydra den and Jaedong's third. The great part about this was how incredibly effective the valkyaries were against the mutas. Flash had the mutas on the run all the way across the map, but Jaedong had a large number of lings up his sleeve to pull off a surround. That was the crucial point in the game. It was a great idea, but two things went wrong for Jaedong. He didn't have enough lings, and he sent half of his lings past the marines instead of into them, and Flash lost practically nothing except energy on his medics. It was so simple, and all of a sudden Jaedong was down 0-2.
Game Three: Match Point - VOD + Show Spoiler [Battle Report] +Game 3 was painful to watch, so it's good that you're reading this battle report instead. During the live broadcast of the finals, Jaedong fans had a lot of hope for their hero's chances on Match Point. After all, this was the map on which Jaedong cleanly crushed Flash in the NATE finals with impeccable micro, and this was also the map on which Flash lost the bulk of his games to zergs not named Jaedong in the last year. For whatever reason, though, Jaedong threw this game away. After Flash scouted Jaedong's 12 hatch, he went double command center. And with this, Flash has brought the Terran revolution full circle from the times of Boxer. Jaedong spotted not only the fast CC but also the wall-in that Flash constructed in front of his natural. Despite the fact that Flash had a seemingly impenetrable wall, with two depots, a rax, and a bunker right behind, Jaedong went for a hydralisk bust, something that was clearly doomed to failure if Flash made a machine shop before the hydras made it to Flash's natural. Siege mode would allow any competent Terran to take care of this, and Jaedong should have known this. It is likely that he was on tilt. The hydras broke like waves on the power of repair. Then they dies to the power of 60hp SCVs. Then they died to siege mode. Jaedong at one point darted in to snipe a tank, but Flash immediately had another one siege up to take its place. There simply wasn't any hope for a break. Three excruciating minutes passed after the first break attempt, with Jaedong making more and more hydras to try to salvage a lost MSL title. His micro was impeccable; he targeted exactly the correct buildings and units; but the initial decision to break cost him the game. He transitioned out of the bust, expanding twice, but when he did, Flash simply moved out and crushed him. In the game's final moments, the viewer could see the weight of the NATE and Korean Air losses roll off of Flash's shoulders. This best of five win against his only rival was a long time coming.
Game Four: Fighting Spirit - VOD + Show Spoiler [Battle Report] +
Game Five: Triathlon - VOD + Show Spoiler [Battle Report] +Empty Throne Part 2 The battle is fierce, and the crowd cheers as the two forces clash. Swords strike, shields shatter, and blood spills, wetting the sands. Soon enough, Flashius and Jaedos enter the battle personally. As the two start to circle, the armies cease to fight. All eyes are upon the two combatants, and thousands of mouths, belonging to citizens and warriors alike, hold their breaths as the first strikes are exchanged. The battle is fierce, and as a form of fighting it is a work of art. The two best swordsmen of Greece, locked together in combat, know that the outcome only has room for one person standing. And the crowd knows it too. That warrior victorious will be the one to rule Seoulinete, he shall be the one to finally lift the city from darkness. The thunderstorm continues to rage overhead, and with each strike of swords, a lightning bolt emanates from the darkened skies. The weather slowly grows colder, and all signs point toward a ferocious blizzard. The rest of Greece begins to freeze, but the Seoulinete arena is ablaze, lit up by light, by energy, and so the blizzard, for now, cannot touch it. The sound of metal on metal rings through the air; lightning bolts slash through the sky, scorching the atmosphere.
The crowd cheers.
While the fight is chaotic and furious, after a while the outcome is determined, long before the battle is finished. With a quick feint, Flashius cuts through Jaedos’ sword, shearing the blade in half. While Jaedos continues to defend for a while longer, soon enough he finds his neck at the tip of Flashius’ blade.
The crowd shouts and hollers.
Flashius looks toward the masses, searching for the judgment.
The thumbs point downward. Jaedos is to be spared.
As Jaedos drops his broken weapon, Flash sheathes his own sword. He helps Jaedos to his feet, and the two embrace, as brothers would. Shortly after, Jaedos departs the field, and Flashius is left all alone, surrounded by thousands of his soon-to-be-subjects.
The crowd goes wild.
And then, the skies open up.
The patch of sky above the Arena clears, and dazzling light shines down upon the Arena, lighting up the night sky like day. As all the people of Seoulinete are shielding themselves from the blinding glare, they do not notice the four individuals descending from the sky, walking on the air.
They look like men, they walk and talk like men. But they are much, much more than man, for they are the gods. As all of Seoulinete sit, blinded, in their seats, the gods approach Flashius. While all four have a sort of air around them, the one walking in front stands out above all. He is regal, a king amongst kings. He is Limyos, the ruler of the gods, the Emperor of the sky. On his right walks the wise Nathenos, the rider of storms, and on his left, Choimeter, the king of the harvest. Trailing behind the three walks Ichthys, still playing with his gold.
Flashius, not affected at all by the light, recognizes the gods for who they are, and bows deeply. After the four return Flashius’ bow, Limyos begins to speak.
“Flashius, dark times are upon Greece, and we all know it. There is… something amiss in the air, something that we have not been able to combat.” “But you, Flashius, have the power to right all the wrongs,” speaks Nathenos. “You alone can save Greece from eternal darkness.”
“This is why we have come before you today,” says Choimeter. “We have come to…”
Clink, clink, clink.
Limyos finishes the sentence. “…To turn you into a god.”
The crowd, still yet unable to see but able to hear, lets out a collective gasp. Then come the mixed responses. A few are ecstatic, coming from people that are happy to see that Flashius will be elevated to godhood. The large majority of Seoulinetians is less enthusiastic, though. They are thinking about their city, and how Flashius would have to desert Seoulinete in order to reign from Olympus.
The Emperor gestures, and motions for Flashius to look skyward. A final blinding flash of light emanates from the sky, and then afterward everybody can see it. “Look, Flashius. That is your throne, the fifth throne that was long ago forged, in preparation for the Times of Chaos after the fall of Ichthys.
This is your birthright, Flashius. Take this throne, and bring Greece back to the light.”
Flashius looks at the throne, and looks at the four gods. They stand there, smiling, beckoning for him to ascend to the heavens.
Flashius starts walking forward.
And then Flashius lowers his gaze, and stares at his men, the faithful troops that have fought with him for years and years now. He turns around in a circle, looking at the citizens in the stands, the citizens who he had pledged to save. They are all looking at him, telling him not to go.
Flashius falters.
He looks at Jaedos, who has reappeared on the battlefield. Jaedos shakes his head, and Flashius understands. Though he has fought for glory, for godhood, his real duty lies with the people. The people do not want Flashius to ascend to Olympus. They want him here, on earth, to lead them.
Flashius stops moving, and turns to address the gods.
“I’m sorry, Limyos. I cannot accept this, for my place is here with my people. For now, I shall remain on earth. I will watch over Seoulinete, and from here I shall bring the rest of Greece back to the light, and back to the peace.”
Limyos nods his head. “While we do not like this decision, Flashius, we are ready to honor it. But beware: this throne offered now may now go to another, another in the future. Are you willing to take this risk?”
“I am.”
The crowd. Goes. Wild.
Nathenos sighs. “Then, I suppose our business here is finished. Farewell, Flashius, ruler of Seoulinete. We shall be watching you with interest.”
And with another flash of light, the gods are gone, though the light remains. Darkness has turned into day, and the blizzard that had been assaulting Greece has vanished.
Flashius smiles. He makes his way outside of the Arena, and it is there that he stands, surveying the city below him. As he turns his focus outward, he idly flips a golden coin, one that Ichthys had dropped. The sun had risen over Greece, the darkness was receding.
This is the era of Flashius. And that's it for the 2010 Hana Daetoo MSL. While it may not have been the finals everybody was looking for, it was still one for the history books. With his win, Flash picked up his first MSL and showed that he is still the best in the world, and now there seems to be a question mark over the position of best Zerg. Either way, we have another MSL starting soon, and with the Bigfile MST going on right now, it won't be long until we're back into the MSL proper. Let's hope for another great tournament, and perhaps we'll be seeing Flash and Jaedong again in the finals. And that's it for the 2010 Hana Daetoo MSL. Thanks to the MSL coverage team, anybody that has helped and contributed, and most importantly, to all of you, the readers and viewers. Oh and silly me, credit goes to the roommate for the title.
That's all, folks.
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awesome writeup :D
..still reading
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Yes, finally MSL finals article. All Flash fans scream with me: In Flash we trust!!!!!
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lol, very creative.
though dead wrong of course. we all know that the dagger-wielding assassin is about to come back, and repeatedly stab both flashius and jaedos.
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this article makes me sad ]=
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nice article and i enjoyed this series it made me remember how awesome BW and pro-gamers are.
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Please, let the throne be conquered by Kalos within the next 2 seasons. Please God, he deserves.. guide him!
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I can only presume that Savioros or something like that has been apprehended by the Olympian Police.
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Wow, such an awesome awesome write up <3
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On June 07 2010 01:07 majesty.k)seRapH wrote: lol, very creative.
though dead wrong of course. we all know that the dagger-wielding assassin is about to come back, and repeatedly stab both flashius and jaedos.
The dagger wielding assassin is done bro :p
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Amazing. Loved the story. Loved the analogy to Greek Gods. Nice names too. xD
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nice article but i believe the gladiator thing was more roman then greek, and the thumb has to go up for the life of the defeated to be spared
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On June 07 2010 01:19 Corrupt wrote: Please, let the throne be conquered by Kalos within the next 2 seasons. Please God, he deserves.. guide him! Well, you can wait till the cows come home, but Kalos won't ever be a god.
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great read, good work TL staff!
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A little too corny, guys...
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for those of us not familiar, can someone explain who the 5 are? bananas is oov (ape reference), emperor is boxer, coin flipper is savior (scandal reference?), traveler is nada? (not sure of the reference). dagger assassin is... (not sure, bisu? savior killer?)
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Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
Hahahaha, nicely done! Great story flamewheel!
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How is setting up a new Terran god supposed to bring balance to the Force or whatever it was?
I want a Protoss god .
Incidentally, now that Savior has become the manifestation of evil in Pro StarCraft (remember the Nal_ra/Savior depiction of Savior as Hitler? ) the only remaining pure bonjwa are all Terrans...
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United States17042 Posts
wow, great story. Interesting interesting.
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*kneels before Flashius*
Nice story, flamewheel. enjoyed reading it.
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Loved all the references, especially the Blizzard one and the Tornado Terran one. I also like how Tornado Terran's entrance was foreshadowed in the previous installment. The naming conversions for Nada and Savior threw me off a bit because Boxer and Oov were named after their Korean names. How exactly were the names Nathenos and Ichthys derived?
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Great article, especially getting the thumbs-down to be spared thing right (nobody ever gets that right!). Thumbs down meant sheath your sword, while thumbs up meant decapitation (off with your head, etc.).
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The 14CC MSL.... I wonder if that'll become standard Flash build. 14CC into Valk
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good writeup thanks for taking the time
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So awesome ,I smiled when I realised who was who and laughed at Savior. Awesome write-up
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Hahahahhaa, what a wonderful writeup! Good job! All hail Flashius! And of course our gods, BoxeR, oov, NaDa
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Pickled article, one of the greatest what I've ever read.
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Excellent excellent report <3 will read again
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I really enjoyed the stories surrounding the actual battle reports. Thanks!
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Awesome write up. Wish I coulda watched live
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awesome article, nice work guys
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Katowice25012 Posts
Great writing! Also awesome pictures keit.
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United States11637 Posts
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Amazing. Don't stop writing
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that was such a good story. you had me too, i was like "are they about do declare him a bonjwa? Really? this is going to be a huge controversy..." and then i read the next part and i was like "Oh k LOL" yeaaah. Good read
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United States3824 Posts
Lol Coinflipper
Brings a tear to my eye
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This piece, it hurts the eye. How can you write like that? It's totally screwed.
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On June 07 2010 01:48 kiero wrote: for those of us not familiar, can someone explain who the 5 are? bananas is oov (ape reference), emperor is boxer, coin flipper is savior (scandal reference?), traveler is nada? (not sure of the reference). dagger assassin is... (not sure, bisu? savior killer?)
yes, scandal reference, his gold watches and everything.. traveler = nada, aka tornado terran bisu is the korean word for dagger.(he took down savior in the msl finals and was supposed to be the next bonjwa)
nice article, even though I find "flashius" and "jaedos" a bit cheesy ^^ btw. wouldnt thumbing down mean they are to die? Pretty sure it would
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Hahahaha this is so great.
I love all your write ups. Thanks a lot!
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haha too bad modern day Greece is in the shit hole right now.
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On June 07 2010 04:30 nitdkim wrote: haha too bad modern day Greece is in the shit hole right now. They should hire Flash as finance minister.
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On June 07 2010 04:37 okum wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2010 04:30 nitdkim wrote: haha too bad modern day Greece is in the shit hole right now. They should hire Flash as finance minister.
Macromanagement time!
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lol, flash would manage al lthat shit jsut fine and give greek the best miltary in the world!
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this write up was a total beast. i really really enjoyed and all the greece mythology that you tried to incorporate into it. ".....ichtyus still flipping his coins"
lmao good work!
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wow very cool! story sucked me in
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United States42693 Posts
On June 07 2010 04:03 7mk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2010 01:48 kiero wrote: for those of us not familiar, can someone explain who the 5 are? bananas is oov (ape reference), emperor is boxer, coin flipper is savior (scandal reference?), traveler is nada? (not sure of the reference). dagger assassin is... (not sure, bisu? savior killer?) yes, scandal reference, his gold watches and everything.. traveler = nada, aka tornado terran bisu is the korean word for dagger.(he took down savior in the msl finals and was supposed to be the next bonjwa) nice article, even though I find "flashius" and "jaedos" a bit cheesy ^^ btw. wouldnt thumbing down mean they are to die? Pretty sure it would He looked like he would be for a while with an insane winrate in the proleague but he lost to Mind 2-3 in the finals of the next MSL and Flash cheesed him out of the OSL in his (Flash's) first OSL run. Bisu maintained bonjwalike winrates and dominance but couldn't reliably make it to the finals in starleagues. When he did though (vs Jangbi and Stork) he won.
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this series made me quit zerg gg
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United States10328 Posts
you noob you said you were crediting me for that title???
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I cant recognize bisu in the picture ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/keit/4gods.jpg) OO €: savior oov oov nada imho
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I kinda dislike my self for this but:
On May 28 2010 14:34 checo wrote: XD Flash will completly out play JD this time be ready for a complete rape
I call it =D
I love it when im right and even morw when one of my favs wins =D
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On June 07 2010 01:48 kiero wrote: for those of us not familiar, can someone explain who the 5 are? bananas is oov (ape reference), emperor is boxer, coin flipper is savior (scandal reference?), traveler is nada? (not sure of the reference). dagger assassin is... (not sure, bisu? savior killer?)
Dagger assassin is Bisu; he ended savior's era by totally unexpected 3-0 ing him. Since then, savior started loosing left and right. Also bisu means dagger in korean.
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On June 07 2010 01:44 Viruuus wrote: nice article but i believe the gladiator thing was more roman then greek, and the thumb has to go up for the life of the defeated to be spared
Incorrect, the thumbs down meant that the gladiator had his life spared. Common misconception.
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On June 07 2010 05:10 Djin)ftw( wrote:I cant recognize bisu in the picture ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/staff/keit/4gods.jpg) OO €: savior oov oov nada imho bisu isnt in it. its savior oov boxer nada
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On June 07 2010 04:03 7mk wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2010 01:48 kiero wrote: for those of us not familiar, can someone explain who the 5 are? bananas is oov (ape reference), emperor is boxer, coin flipper is savior (scandal reference?), traveler is nada? (not sure of the reference). dagger assassin is... (not sure, bisu? savior killer?) yes, scandal reference, his gold watches and everything.. traveler = nada, aka tornado terran bisu is the korean word for dagger.(he took down savior in the msl finals and was supposed to be the next bonjwa) nice article, even though I find "flashius" and "jaedos" a bit cheesy ^^ btw. wouldnt thumbing down mean they are to die? Pretty sure it would
Ohhh, I see. Didn't think of tornado terran. Thanks to everyone who replied. Makes a lot more sense to me now.
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That was EPIC! Thanks Arrian, motbob, and flamewheel. You've outdone yourselves.
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Very nice read! The story was a wee bit cheesy at times, but also quite funny. Coin flipper, lol.
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On June 07 2010 02:07 EchOne wrote: Loved all the references, especially the Blizzard one and the Tornado Terran one. I also like how Tornado Terran's entrance was foreshadowed in the previous installment. The naming conversions for Nada and Savior threw me off a bit because Boxer and Oov were named after their Korean names. How exactly were the names Nathenos and Ichthys derived? Also cheesy! NaDa + Athena + male form, since NaDa is the genius Terran after all. Ichthys is just straight up sAviOr in Greek. If you want to add some meaning that I didn't plan on having to it, you can also say that sAviOr was... fishy.
Also whoops roommate gets credit for title since I suck at thinking of them.
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United States10328 Posts
On June 07 2010 05:26 muta_micro wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2010 01:44 Viruuus wrote: nice article but i believe the gladiator thing was more roman then greek, and the thumb has to go up for the life of the defeated to be spared Incorrect, the thumbs down meant that the gladiator had his life spared. Common misconception.
thumbs up was for coup de grace
yes this is roman, and i pointed this out to him
but you know EVERYONE wants GLADIATOR FIGHTS and GREEK MYTHOLOGY so oops he just smorgasborged them together
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On June 07 2010 06:15 ]343[ wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2010 05:26 muta_micro wrote:On June 07 2010 01:44 Viruuus wrote: nice article but i believe the gladiator thing was more roman then greek, and the thumb has to go up for the life of the defeated to be spared Incorrect, the thumbs down meant that the gladiator had his life spared. Common misconception. thumbs up was for coup de grace yes this is roman, and i pointed this out to him but you know EVERYONE wants GLADIATOR FIGHTS and GREEK MYTHOLOGY so oops he just smorgasborged them together Shhh it's because the Greeks had cooler names and the Romans had the frickin' Colosseum.
Oh and also you were right when you said that the thumb thing would cause some consternation.
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A little sappy.. but it totally reminds me of why flamewheel is a writer now lol... very nicely done and I like the pictures
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On June 07 2010 04:37 okum wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2010 04:30 nitdkim wrote: haha too bad modern day Greece is in the shit hole right now. They should hire Flash as finance minister.
LOL so good.
Flamewheel, awesome job. Had me laughing my guts out at the references (lol savior, oov-smash-married)
And fucking epic, since you made the camaradrie between Jaedong and Flash seem so promising. They should just start a Proleague team by themselves. And buy any random Protoss over to fill in
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how can there be balance when all the so called gods are TERRANS!!!!
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Lol. I laughed pretty damn hard. But flash isn't a bonjwa in my eyes. He lost to effort in a terrible series.
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On June 07 2010 06:42 MuffinDude wrote: Lol. I laughed pretty damn hard. But flash isn't a bonjwa in my eyes. He lost to effort in a terrible series. I don't think this article is calling Flash a bonjwa; actually I think it's saying the opposite. The way I see it, he was stopped from becoming a bonjwa by the fans (citizens), and it's true that the fans are the ones who officially crown people as bonjwas, no matter what the standards are.
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Epic writing is epic. I love the internet
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Flashimus Maximus Meridius, I salute thee.
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On June 07 2010 05:12 checo wrote:I kinda dislike my self for this but: Show nested quote +On May 28 2010 14:34 checo wrote: XD Flash will completly out play JD this time be ready for a complete rape I call it =D I love it when im right and even morw when one of my favs wins =D How is saying Flash will win calling it. You could basically just say that every time he plays and be right most of the time.
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Great write up. I can't wait for Flashius to ascend.
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the epic rubber match awaits. this has to be the golden era or sc - despite the shitstorm. *sigh* if only bisu was in the mix...
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loved the writeup, good job Flashius!
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If only the MSL was half as epic as the writeup. Three bo wins. Well, Jaedos has himself to blame for not going 9 pools speed three times in a row. (That would have sucked equally bad).
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On June 07 2010 06:30 Shizuru~ wrote: how can there be balance when all the so called gods are TERRANS!!!!
Amen.
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So amazing flamewheel Keep it up with the Greek themes from now on, it's amazing!!
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For those of you who didn't watch the games. Jaedong IMHO played terrible in retrospect to how he is played in the past.
Anyone who has followed his career and watched him grow knows darn well something is up. I really have no idea what it is, but that is not the jaedong builds/timings/anything I have memorized and mimicked for years. As I poor over his book of builds and timings and strategies, I find nothing in regards to all 3 games.
It almost seemed like he was throwing the match.....
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On June 07 2010 08:48 Powda wrote: It almost seemed like he was throwing the match..... Don't even go there :<
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On June 07 2010 07:18 0mgVitaminE wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2010 05:12 checo wrote:I kinda dislike my self for this but: On May 28 2010 14:34 checo wrote: XD Flash will completly out play JD this time be ready for a complete rape I call it =D I love it when im right and even morw when one of my favs wins =D How is saying Flash will win calling it. You could basically just say that every time he plays and be right most of the time.
I don't just said he was going to win, he will rape and thats what he did ^^, and no mister i don't call every flash game a win(no vs JD atleast), but this time i just felt it... but hey Skaters gonna skate i guess
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On June 07 2010 08:50 flamewheel wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2010 08:48 Powda wrote: It almost seemed like he was throwing the match..... Don't even go there :<
I'm being honest, it may seem like I'm some fanboi that can't let it go, but I literally watched the first game and was like, "What the heck is he doing?!"
Just watch it yourself, unless you aren't familiar with Jaedong's play style. Why didn't he just do his normal muta harass build? Flash went quick expo and Jaedong scouted it, that is an automatic win for Muta build. I'm still completely confused but I'll watch the matches again.
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On June 07 2010 08:52 Powda wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2010 08:50 flamewheel wrote:On June 07 2010 08:48 Powda wrote: It almost seemed like he was throwing the match..... Don't even go there :< I'm being honest, it may seem like I'm some fanboi that can't let it go [...]
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Amazing writeup. Thanks, I really enjoyed reading it!
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Great!... I was about to cry. haha.
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Epic writeup, nice one :D
Was waiting for this, ironically I was on holiday in Greece when the games happened.
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Great article, loved the story!
On June 07 2010 02:11 Ogyusuh wrote: The 14CC MSL.... I wonder if that'll become standard Flash build. 14CC into Valk I doubt it. IMO the build loses a lot of its oomph if it's scouted, because Zerg can just morph scourge with their first set of mutas. Jaedong lost the momentum in that game because he had to wait for scourge to spawn and then cross the whole map before he could engage.
On the issue of the 3rd game, was Jaedong's push as doomed as you make it out to be? It's true that he could get siege off a Machine Shop, but aren't Spider Mines or Charon Boosters just as likely first techs out of the Machine Shop (especially if Flash expects 2 hatch muta)? IMO the key moment in that game was when Flash got the late SCV scout into Jaedong's natural and saw that he hadn't taken his 2nd gas yet. That had to have given him some early warning for the push--without it, I'm not sure Siege Mode would have finished in time. All in all, I think the game was a lot closer than the BR makes it out to be.
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Good article.
And even though I'm usually a Jaedong fan being a zerg player and all I gotta say I rooted for Flash coming into this. Would have been just to cruel to have such an amazing season then lose in both finals.
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On June 07 2010 08:52 Powda wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2010 08:50 flamewheel wrote:On June 07 2010 08:48 Powda wrote: It almost seemed like he was throwing the match..... Don't even go there :< I'm being honest, it may seem like I'm some fanboi that can't let it go, but I literally watched the first game and was like, "What the heck is he doing?!" Just watch it yourself, unless you aren't familiar with Jaedong's play style. Why didn't he just do his normal muta harass build? Flash went quick expo and Jaedong scouted it, that is an automatic win for Muta build. I'm still completely confused but I'll watch the matches again. The first game was a supreme gambit. It was a brilliant build and he seriously almost had it except he was riding on such a thin line that a single blunder just killed him. That build was totally something that Jaedong would do. A prepared build that is totally ballsy, totally unprecedented, and extremely powerful. He just fucked up and stumbled on the line. I don't think you understand that when Flash failed in breaking through before the first defiler came out Flash was FUCKED. He was in a fucked up position and if he failed to break Jaedong when he did then he would have lost the game. And Jaedong was extremly close to that point. Jaedong got too complacent after getting his first defiler out and Flash took what was perhaps his only chance to win and he succeeded.
On June 07 2010 08:48 Powda wrote: For those of you who didn't watch the games. Jaedong IMHO played terrible in retrospect to how he is played in the past.
Anyone who has followed his career and watched him grow knows darn well something is up. I really have no idea what it is, but that is not the jaedong builds/timings/anything I have memorized and mimicked for years. As I poor over his book of builds and timings and strategies, I find nothing in regards to all 3 games.
It almost seemed like he was throwing the match..... Game 2?
People will find the excuse to say the dumbest things sometimes. 100% knee-jerk bullshit.
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Great story ! And lol at the god eating bananas hahaha
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tl;dr
...but only because I have exams this week. I'll definitely come back to this, what I did read was pretty good =D
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Nice writeup. 
I actually didn't know about the gladiatorial thumbs-down until I read this. The more you know.
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Just want to congratulate the MSL team on a job well done this season!
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On June 07 2010 12:58 riptide wrote: Just want to congratulate the MSL team on a job well done this season! I want to voice the same sentiments with a bit of professional jealousy thrown in. You guys are making us at the OSL look bad,
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On June 07 2010 14:08 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2010 12:58 riptide wrote: Just want to congratulate the MSL team on a job well done this season! I want to voice the same sentiments with a bit of professional jealousy thrown in. You guys are making us at the OSL look bad, I'm hiring out to the highest bidder :3 (lolwut)
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On June 07 2010 11:25 koreasilver wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2010 08:52 Powda wrote:On June 07 2010 08:50 flamewheel wrote:On June 07 2010 08:48 Powda wrote: It almost seemed like he was throwing the match..... Don't even go there :< I'm being honest, it may seem like I'm some fanboi that can't let it go, but I literally watched the first game and was like, "What the heck is he doing?!" Just watch it yourself, unless you aren't familiar with Jaedong's play style. Why didn't he just do his normal muta harass build? Flash went quick expo and Jaedong scouted it, that is an automatic win for Muta build. I'm still completely confused but I'll watch the matches again. The first game was a supreme gambit. It was a brilliant build and he seriously almost had it except he was riding on such a thin line that a single blunder just killed him. That build was totally something that Jaedong would do. A prepared build that is totally ballsy, totally unprecedented, and extremely powerful. He just fucked up and stumbled on the line. I don't think you understand that when Flash failed in breaking through before the first defiler came out Flash was FUCKED. He was in a fucked up position and if he failed to break Jaedong when he did then he would have lost the game. And Jaedong was extremly close to that point. Jaedong got too complacent after getting his first defiler out and Flash took what was perhaps his only chance to win and he succeeded. Show nested quote +On June 07 2010 08:48 Powda wrote: For those of you who didn't watch the games. Jaedong IMHO played terrible in retrospect to how he is played in the past.
Anyone who has followed his career and watched him grow knows darn well something is up. I really have no idea what it is, but that is not the jaedong builds/timings/anything I have memorized and mimicked for years. As I poor over his book of builds and timings and strategies, I find nothing in regards to all 3 games.
It almost seemed like he was throwing the match..... Game 2? People will find the excuse to say the dumbest things sometimes. 100% knee-jerk bullshit. This.
People who say that Jaedong wasn't playing up to his normal standard, I don't think you realize how incredibly close the games were.
In game 1, Jaedong played an unorthodox build that *almost worked*. Flash was able to hit an extremely narrow timing against a build that no one has ever seen before. To say that it's Jaedong's fault that Flash was able to pull off such a feat undermines how difficult it was. It's one thing to hit the necessary timings against builds you've rehearsed against hundreds of times in practice. It's completely different against a build that is totally new, and we've seen Bonjwa-level progamers die to builds they are just seeing for the first time.
In game 2, Jaedong played totally reasonable with everything he could have known. He came out with a build order advantage, and did a very commendable job of stalling Flash's push for what little time he could. He was two mismicros away from taking the game.
As I said above in game 3, it's perfectly likely that Flash was going to research Goliath range first, especially since he lost to 2hatch muta when they played on Match Point last MSL. Had Flash not been able to narrowly trick his SCV into the natural, the game could have been a smashing victory for Jaedong, as there is no way that Flash would have gotten Siege Mode in time if he went Gol range first.
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A Blizzard was assaulting Greece. Possibly B.net 2.0
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Oh man I totally just shouted at my screen "Noooooo Flash ain't no bonjwa yet!!!" while reading the part where Flashius is offered the 5th throne. But if he wins both starleagues next round, I may need to bow my head... eeek....
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On June 07 2010 16:16 NicksonReyes wrote: A Blizzard was assaulting Greece. Possibly B.net 2.0 Or SCII in general :<
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Since when does losing to effort and using high risk builds make you a bonjwa?
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Rofl so glad I didn't b-word Flash.
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Flashius has roman suffix, while the article is about ancient greece. Besides that, great idea, great imagination, and nice work put into 1 article. For that, flamewheel, we who are about to die, salute you !
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Wahahah, nice read ! The Era of Flashius
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Looool I hope Flashius help the people fight the blizzard well or else not only Greece but even Olympus will fall.
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All hail Flashius!
NB Thumbs down means life won't be spared.
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On June 07 2010 11:25 koreasilver wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2010 08:52 Powda wrote:On June 07 2010 08:50 flamewheel wrote:On June 07 2010 08:48 Powda wrote: It almost seemed like he was throwing the match..... Don't even go there :< I'm being honest, it may seem like I'm some fanboi that can't let it go, but I literally watched the first game and was like, "What the heck is he doing?!" Just watch it yourself, unless you aren't familiar with Jaedong's play style. Why didn't he just do his normal muta harass build? Flash went quick expo and Jaedong scouted it, that is an automatic win for Muta build. I'm still completely confused but I'll watch the matches again. The first game was a supreme gambit. It was a brilliant build and he seriously almost had it except he was riding on such a thin line that a single blunder just killed him. That build was totally something that Jaedong would do. A prepared build that is totally ballsy, totally unprecedented, and extremely powerful. He just fucked up and stumbled on the line. I don't think you understand that when Flash failed in breaking through before the first defiler came out Flash was FUCKED. He was in a fucked up position and if he failed to break Jaedong when he did then he would have lost the game. And Jaedong was extremly close to that point. Jaedong got too complacent after getting his first defiler out and Flash took what was perhaps his only chance to win and he succeeded. Show nested quote +On June 07 2010 08:48 Powda wrote: For those of you who didn't watch the games. Jaedong IMHO played terrible in retrospect to how he is played in the past.
Anyone who has followed his career and watched him grow knows darn well something is up. I really have no idea what it is, but that is not the jaedong builds/timings/anything I have memorized and mimicked for years. As I poor over his book of builds and timings and strategies, I find nothing in regards to all 3 games.
It almost seemed like he was throwing the match..... Game 2? People will find the excuse to say the dumbest things sometimes. 100% knee-jerk bullshit.
I could not disagree with you more. Before jaedong even reached defiler tech flash was already well into Vessel tech with irradiate. Did you even watch the same game we did? Jaedong expanded, did nothing, scouted and saw fast expo, did nothing, had a drone in flashes base and knew exactly what tech he was doing...still did nothing...went straight for ultralisk tech......when he just scouted flash going straight for vessel, I can think of 3 jaedong builds he could have easily done to bust flash wide open.
I'm sorry but going ultralisk tech, then realizing you don't know wtf you were thinking and then switching to defiler tech...building 2 mounds.....W T F.....I've never seen a worse game in my life. Flash had the game the second Jaedong decided to play like an amateur.
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He got his two defiler mounds before ultralisk tech.
You obviously didn't even pay attention. Nor do you even have the most primitive grasp of the game.
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On June 08 2010 05:28 koreasilver wrote: He got his two defiler mounds before ultralisk tech.
You obviously didn't even pay attention. Nor do you even have the most primitive grasp of the game.
He was going ultralisk tech then crapped himself and switched defiler to save his trash. That was made evident by the double chambers teching when he didn't have a single melee unit..only mutas.
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On June 08 2010 05:34 koreasilver wrote: Jesus Christ.
This is a perfect example of someone who knows nothing about jaedong talking out their ass.
In 2007 and 2008 Jaedong had an almost unbeatable ultra/defiler/ling build. There is no doubt in my head he was going ultra build because I have watched EVERY game he has ever played. How bout you do a little research before beating your chest brother? This WAS jaedong's ultra build that he complete F'd up and switched to defiler tech making 2 mounds in a panic, nothing you can say will change that because IT IS HIS BUILD .
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Except he's never used a build like this before. This build was unprecedented. And if you even watched the game properly then you would have known that he was planning on going defilers immediately once hive finished, which he did. Is there even a point in arguing with someone that went on about evolution chambers in the midst of a 미친저그 build?
No there isn't.
Not only are your arguments completely wrong, but you don't even seem to have the capability to SEE what happened. You can't argue when you can't even get the indisputable facts wrong to begin with.
Why am I arguing with someone that thought a no pool 3hatch into 3hatch mutas was unfamiliar?
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Why is boxer there when he didn't even win a msl? o:
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On June 08 2010 06:18 koreasilver wrote: Except he's never used a build like this before. This build was unprecedented. And if you even watched the game properly then you would have known that he was planning on going defilers immediately once hive finished, which he did. Is there even a point in arguing with someone that went on about evolution chambers in the midst of a 미친저그 build?
No there isn't.
Not only are your arguments completely wrong, but you don't even seem to have the capability to SEE what happened. You can't argue when you can't even get the indisputable facts wrong to begin with.
Why am I arguing with someone that thought a no pool 3hatch into 3hatch mutas was unfamiliar?
" This build was unprecedented"
"Why am I arguing with someone that thought a no pool 3hatch into 3hatch mutas was unfamiliar?"
By far my favorite part of your post. Anyone want to explain to the Korean what Unprecedented means?
His build is soo obviously Ultra build and yet you claim I can't argue it? Not to be a broken record here, but go back to 2007-2008 jaedong and watch him do this same build over and over to dominate Terrans, then in the end of 2008 and all of 2009 start the "cheese" that is the current most popular TvZ Muta build.
His ultra build was perfect until he went with the double defiler mound. Even if you do consider this build to be a defiler build...why then did he not build anything but defiler and mutas? He made what a total of 15-20 zerglings in a defiler build? Then ending the game with 6 ultralisks...yeah keep dreamin buddy...this was and IS his ultra build that he altered when he panicked.
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Tell me when anyone has ever completely skipped hydras, lurkers, and mutas until after they started their hive in the past three years and when going in this "Crazy Zerg" route, they got double defiler dens BEFORE ultras. And no, he wasn't planning on going the typical Crazy Zerg build as he built his evolution chambers much later than you would with the typical Crazy Zerg.
Please find an example of such a game.
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Awesome write-up. I LOLed at the coinflipper part and the dagger reference.
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On June 08 2010 05:45 Powda wrote:This is a perfect example of someone who knows nothing about jaedong talking out their ass. In 2007 and 2008 Jaedong had an almost unbeatable ultra/defiler/ling build. There is no doubt in my head he was going ultra build because I have watched EVERY game he has ever played. How bout you do a little research before beating your chest brother? This WAS jaedong's ultra build that he complete F'd up and switched to defiler tech making 2 mounds in a panic, nothing you can say will change that because IT IS HIS BUILD . From the standpoint of Bo5 mindgames, it makes a lot less sense for Jaedong to be playing a build that's 2-3 years out of date, and a lot more sense for him to be playing a build that's never been seen before.
On June 08 2010 06:55 Powda wrote: His ultra build was perfect until he went with the double defiler mound. Even if you do consider this build to be a defiler build...why then did he not build anything but defiler and mutas? He made what a total of 15-20 zerglings in a defiler build? Then ending the game with 6 ultralisks...yeah keep dreamin buddy...this was and IS his ultra build that he altered when he panicked. Surplus gas and not enough larvae.
Holding the push pre-defiler with pure lings isn't going to happen. When Jaedong's most precious resource at that point in the game is larvae, mutas are a much better use of individual larvae than zerglings.
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wow. epic writeup :D the dagger wielding assassin <3 love it
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This is friggin awesome - one of the most creatively structured write ups in a while
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Flashius. lolllllll for some reason that name is just really funny
really clever things here and there, great writeup! I'm sure people will disagree, but for me... somehow, it just felt like Flash wasn't as GODLIKE as before the OSL Finals, even though he thrashed/raped/mindraped/etc'd JD 3-0... I think the OSL loss really disappointed so many fans, including myself. sigh.
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wtf is this fanfic shit?
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