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Progamer Ma: "I've never suggested match fixing" - Page 2

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Yuusha
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan34 Posts
June 04 2010 05:50 GMT
#21
occupation? "Progamer"
sounds so badass but he's definitely guilty and there's no way he's ever coming back
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11554 Posts
June 04 2010 05:51 GMT
#22
I hope to god for his sake that he is not lying :/
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
QuickStriker
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3694 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-04 05:54:09
June 04 2010 05:53 GMT
#23
Oh wow.... a major force of denial we have here... or perhaps going all the way in lying until no one sees the truth anymore.... o.O

*Edit* And thanks for the translation and the link!!!
www.twitch.tv/KoreanUsher
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
June 04 2010 05:54 GMT
#24
On June 04 2010 14:51 FragKrag wrote:
I hope to god for his sake that he is not lying :/


HES A PROGAMER
PROGAMERS DONT LIE
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
June 04 2010 05:56 GMT
#25
On June 04 2010 14:35 Milkis wrote:
In the meanwhile Ma came to court with a cast and crutches as if he had gotten a knee surgery.

A nine millimeter knee surgery perhaps? Or some vigorous "hammer knee-jerk reflex testing"?
에일리 and 아이유 <3 - O Captain 박재혁 ・゚✧*:・*゚+..。✧・゚:*・..。 ✧・゚ :・゚* ゜・*:・ ✧・゚:・゚:.。 ✧・゚ SPARKULING ・゜・:・゚✧*:・゚✧。*゚+..。 ✧・゚: ✧・゚:*・゜・:・゚✧*::
JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
June 04 2010 05:56 GMT
#26
i wonder what justin is going to do for employment. i sure hope he has skills better than playing starcraft otherwise he's going to be on the dole for a looooong time
HEY MEYT
Zalfor
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States1035 Posts
June 04 2010 05:57 GMT
#27
if savior gets through with this bluff, he should just play poker instead.
555, kthxbai
Megalisk
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States6095 Posts
June 04 2010 05:57 GMT
#28
On June 04 2010 14:56 JohnColtrane wrote:
i wonder what justin is going to do for employment. i sure hope he has skills better than playing starcraft otherwise he's going to be on the dole for a looooong time


Live with parents, go back to school?
Tear stained american saints and dirty guitar dreams across a universe of desert and blue sky , gas station coffee love letters and two dollar pistol kisses from thirty five dollar hotel room stationary .
DrivE
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States2554 Posts
June 04 2010 05:59 GMT
#29
Furthermore, Ma added that "I have never participated in match fixing myself, and I don't know of any sites."

wait what? savior still in denial?
LUCK IS NO EXCUSE
Mojawi)SoJu
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)259 Posts
June 04 2010 05:59 GMT
#30
A lil bit vague but almost everybody know facts..
#1 김택용 팬 | #1 화승 오즈 프로게임단 팬 | 스타2 하자! | 나를 찢어갈겨 이 씨발놈아 왜 나를 미치게 만들어 니가 뭘 아는데?
Deleted User 47542
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1484 Posts
June 04 2010 06:00 GMT
#31
This really reminds me of the whole Bill Clinton scandal. In fact it really is the exact same thing!
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
June 04 2010 06:00 GMT
#32
On June 04 2010 14:59 DrivE wrote:
Show nested quote +
Furthermore, Ma added that "I have never participated in match fixing myself, and I don't know of any sites."

wait what? savior still in denial?

Worked for OJ.

Funny that he still classifies himself as a progamer, but I guess innocent till proven guilty.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
June 04 2010 06:02 GMT
#33
On June 04 2010 15:00 superbabosheki wrote:
This really reminds me of the whole Bill Clinton scandal. In fact it really is the exact same thing!

Bill Clinton made it out ok!
Saavioooor!!!
Come back to me!

(please please please be somewhat innocent..)
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
insanet
Profile Joined January 2010
Peru439 Posts
June 04 2010 06:05 GMT
#34
i think what he is saying is he didnt participate on betting on himself, but he did fix his matches.
Scrapton
Profile Joined June 2010
11 Posts
June 04 2010 06:09 GMT
#35
I'm speechless. Gonna quote Day[9] here:

+ Show Spoiler +
...but of course Combat-EX decided to make an apology video, which HAD to be one of the worst apologies ever given... maybe? Probably the worst, because it's just a way of ordering things, as a way of going "hey, you know I know there's a lot of tension going on, but I did the wrong thing." You gotta wrap up by saying that. Combat-EX, on the other hand, began by saying "hey, I MAY have done the wrong thing, I MAY have transgressed...but let me start off by saying how wrong TeamLiquid is", which was a big no-no...
wishbones
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada2600 Posts
June 04 2010 06:12 GMT
#36
hm i wonder if they catch enough pro's can there be a progaming prison team. :o
joined TL.net in 2006 (aka GMer) - http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=41944#2
onewingedmoogle
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada434 Posts
June 04 2010 06:16 GMT
#37
then they really could practise all day, nothing else to do in prison cept mb workin out and getting raped
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
June 04 2010 06:21 GMT
#38
Well.. what other occupation could he say?? Unemployed? Isn't he legitimately a progamer at least for now?
ironchef
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Canada1350 Posts
June 04 2010 06:22 GMT
#39
That's classic, Occupation "Progamer."

At the risk of creating false narratives, I'm getting this mental image of savior smug and defiantly brushing this all off :D Sitting there with his rolex and expensive clothes, "Don't you know who I am? Im the Goddam Bonjwa"
“Because your own strength is unequal to the task, do not assume that it is beyond the powers of man; but if anything is within the powers and province of man, believe that it is within your own compass also.” - Marcus Aurelius
BreakerD
Profile Joined March 2010
United States159 Posts
June 04 2010 06:41 GMT
#40
I think what savior is trying to say is that he is guilty of conspiracy but he never threw away any games..........
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