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Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
June 02 2010 18:39 GMT
#21
This is such a fun trainwreck to watch. Thanks for the translation.
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Mylin
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden177 Posts
June 02 2010 18:40 GMT
#22
On June 03 2010 03:34 Hier wrote:
Well, looks like the beginning of the end of the BW scene in Korea as we know it.

*sobs uncontrollably*


Don't really see why it would gotta wait and see how this develops.
no
Shiladie
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Canada1631 Posts
June 02 2010 18:46 GMT
#23
I really hope they allow the companies to run without major fees, but put in large incentives to have an SC2 league as well.
AltaiR_
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Korea (South)922 Posts
June 02 2010 18:47 GMT
#24
it seems to me that blizzard doesn't care if sc1 dies due to sc2 and is willing to milk it until it does die. greedy punks.
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Mojawi)SoJu
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)259 Posts
June 02 2010 18:47 GMT
#25
I hope nothing wrong will happen
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Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
June 02 2010 18:49 GMT
#26
On June 03 2010 03:40 Mylin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2010 03:34 Hier wrote:
Well, looks like the beginning of the end of the BW scene in Korea as we know it.

*sobs uncontrollably*


Don't really see why it would gotta wait and see how this develops.


From where I am looking, a future where BW is as big in eSports as it is now is slowly shrinking on the horizon.

One only has to consider people's intentions, reasons, motivations, goals, and potential benefits resulting from their actions.

MBC simply has no choice at this point. Either shoot itself or eat a very slow acting poison.

I sincerely hope I am wrong, though.
"But on a more serious note..." -everyone on this forum at some point.
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
June 02 2010 18:58 GMT
#27
MBC is doing the right thing. If KeSPA gets shut down, great, they already have the rights to broadcast. If KeSPA wins, that's fine, business as usual. The broadcasting stations care more about the fans than Blizzard or KeSPA, though their livelihoods are tied to StarCraft doing well anyway.

If Blizzard shuts down SC1 scene in Korea, I can potentially see a boycott movement. I'm sure they don't want that. How are the Koreans seeing Blizzard, anyway?
snowdrift
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
France2061 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-02 19:06:22
June 02 2010 18:59 GMT
#28
On June 03 2010 03:16 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2010 03:14 snowdrift86 wrote:
Perhaps CJ's stake in Gretech is facilitating this deal. If that's the case, things should also work out for OGN, which belongs to CJ. I expect BW to be able to continue unhindered, at least in the immediate future, unless Blizzard/GOM make impossible demands with the intent of killing the proscene to make way for SC2. It's the SC2 scene that will probably be most affected by the Blizzard-Gretech deal.


CJ have a 25% stake in gretech. While it does make them the single biggest shareholder in Gretech, Korean journalists speculate on exactly how significant it is. Officially, CJ claims they are just an investor in Gretech and have no interest in its actual operations.


Well CJ and Gretech are already partners in other ventures, here's something called My Second TV and if you look at the bottom, it's a partnership between CJ and Gretech. That sort of thing speaks to close ties. Now I'm trying to look for the members of Gretech's board of directors, but maybe you could look for them in Korean? Boardu of direcotoru?
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Mylin
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden177 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-02 19:02:51
June 02 2010 19:02 GMT
#29
On June 03 2010 03:49 Hier wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2010 03:40 Mylin wrote:
On June 03 2010 03:34 Hier wrote:
Well, looks like the beginning of the end of the BW scene in Korea as we know it.

*sobs uncontrollably*


Don't really see why it would gotta wait and see how this develops.


From where I am looking, a future where BW is as big in eSports as it is now is slowly shrinking on the horizon.

One only has to consider people's intentions, reasons, motivations, goals, and potential benefits resulting from their actions.

MBC simply has no choice at this point. Either shoot itself or eat a very slow acting poison.

I sincerely hope I am wrong, though.


I think as long as theres a high demand for continued starleagues/proleague in South Korea then it will live on.

If anything kills BW its most likely to many fans switching to SC2.

Gotta remember aswell that from Gremtech/GOMTVs perspective they'll probably rather see OGN/MBC continue with BW. The starleagues/proleague being played on SC2 would probably hurt their own tournaments more then anything else could.
no
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10705 Posts
June 02 2010 19:04 GMT
#30
now that blizzard has the ball in they're court, we're fucked.
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dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
June 02 2010 19:09 GMT
#31
Kespa has control over the Proleague and the 12 Pro-game teams. Most importantly, Kespa represent the 12 sponsors. If the 12 sponsors don't want to have anything to do with Blizzard/Gretech, then the problem will never be resolved.
setzer
Profile Joined March 2010
United States3284 Posts
June 02 2010 19:12 GMT
#32
It will be interesting to see how long it takes for OGN to respond. I may be wrong here, but doesn't CJ also own/control a majority in OGN as well?
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33592 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-02 19:29:20
June 02 2010 19:24 GMT
#33
just to make it clear, OGN and MBCGame have already paid KeSPA/IEG for broadcasting rights, it's not like it would be anything new. They'd just be serving new masters
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
June 02 2010 19:44 GMT
#34
I have a questions. Theoretically, what if MBC/OGN decided to say "fuck it" to Blizzard and just kept broadcasting games under KeSPA? I mean what right does Blizzard have to come in 10 years after this thing has started to say "this is ours and we have the right to control its broadcasting rights". Eventually they'd have to go to court but where, US court or Korean court?

I honestly think if KeSPA had all the progaming teams backing them, they could potentially just continue with the Proleague and Blizzard wouldn't be able to do much about it.
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Uncle Leo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
60 Posts
June 02 2010 20:00 GMT
#35
They'd go to court in Korea, and more likely than not lose.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
June 02 2010 20:03 GMT
#36
Well, we don't know if they would win or not. But if MBCGame is negotiating, I think it's pretty clear who they think has the upper hand here legally.
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33592 Posts
June 02 2010 20:05 GMT
#37
On June 03 2010 04:44 Live2Win wrote:
I have a questions. Theoretically, what if MBC/OGN decided to say "fuck it" to Blizzard and just kept broadcasting games under KeSPA? I mean what right does Blizzard have to come in 10 years after this thing has started to say "this is ours and we have the right to control its broadcasting rights". Eventually they'd have to go to court but where, US court or Korean court?

I honestly think if KeSPA had all the progaming teams backing them, they could potentially just continue with the Proleague and Blizzard wouldn't be able to do much about it.


I've been wondering about something like this.

KeSPA's actions so far seem to reveal they have absolutely no confidence in going to court. They act as if they they tried to go ahead and ignore Blizz, Blizz would take them to court and fuck them up. As much as certain TL users like to claim "Korean courts rule for Korean companies," or "American copyright laws don't apply in Korea," everything I'm reading seems to suggest that KeSPA is deathly afraid of going to court.
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
NIJ
Profile Joined March 2010
1012 Posts
June 02 2010 20:08 GMT
#38
On June 03 2010 05:03 motbob wrote:
Well, we don't know if they would win or not. But if MBCGame is negotiating, I think it's pretty clear who they think has the upper hand here legally.


Legally? no. upperhand in future blizzard games? yes.
Act of thinking logically cannot possibly be natural to the human mind. If it were, then mathematics would be everybody's easiest course at school and our species would not have taken several millennia to figure out the scientific method -NDT
NuKedUFirst
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada3139 Posts
June 02 2010 20:10 GMT
#39
On June 03 2010 05:05 Waxangel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2010 04:44 Live2Win wrote:
I have a questions. Theoretically, what if MBC/OGN decided to say "fuck it" to Blizzard and just kept broadcasting games under KeSPA? I mean what right does Blizzard have to come in 10 years after this thing has started to say "this is ours and we have the right to control its broadcasting rights". Eventually they'd have to go to court but where, US court or Korean court?

I honestly think if KeSPA had all the progaming teams backing them, they could potentially just continue with the Proleague and Blizzard wouldn't be able to do much about it.


I've been wondering about something like this.

KeSPA's actions so far seem to reveal they have absolutely no confidence in going to court. They act as if they they tried to go ahead and ignore Blizz, Blizz would take them to court and fuck them up. As much as certain TL users like to claim "Korean courts rule for Korean companies," or "American copyright laws don't apply in Korea," everything I'm reading seems to suggest that KeSPA is deathly afraid of going to court.


They would most likely go to a non-biased country's court, in Canada the supreme court is suppose to be 100% COMPLETELY non-biased, meaning if the government screwed me over I could take them to court and potentially win. With a case big as this they would have to make it 100% non biased.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51582 Posts
June 02 2010 20:51 GMT
#40
Not surprised considering Gretech and MBC have had a cordial relationship ever since GOMTV sponsored four MSL's in a row.
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