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DreaM)XeRO
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Korea (South)4667 Posts
June 03 2010 00:31 GMT
#61
well . i agree with MBC is doing
playing it safe and staying within the borders to keep the fans happy
:D im satisfied
cw)minsean(ru
LordLastDay
Profile Joined February 2008
34 Posts
June 03 2010 00:36 GMT
#62
On June 03 2010 07:38 shalafi wrote:
Seriously? In Korea? You think people is not going to compare both? (And say how much worse and noobish SC2 is)

I wouldn't be so sure about that.
http://www.teamliquid.net/poll/index.php?poll_id=423
Fraidnot
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States824 Posts
June 03 2010 00:38 GMT
#63
So now that a Korean company is involved, i'm guessing international copyright law is less of an issue.
mrdx
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Vietnam1555 Posts
June 03 2010 00:46 GMT
#64
What MBCGame is doing, is truly "for the fans".

What KeSPA did, was not.
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Inkblood
Profile Joined February 2010
United States463 Posts
June 03 2010 00:50 GMT
#65
This seems to be going well so far, that's good.

Hopefully everything turns out fine. This stuff still has me worried though, it would be a real blow if something were to happen to the BW scene.
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
June 03 2010 00:53 GMT
#66
All I can say is, KeSPA brought this on itself. I'm not exactly cheering for Blizzard due to the BNet 2.0 fiasco, but what KeSPA's done so far in their negotiations with Blizzard was plain stupid.
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InfiniteIce
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States794 Posts
June 03 2010 01:13 GMT
#67
On June 03 2010 03:39 heyoka wrote:
This is such a fun trainwreck to watch. Thanks for the translation.

Heyoka summed up my thoughts better than I could have possibly imagined.
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shalafi
Profile Joined July 2008
394 Posts
June 03 2010 01:38 GMT
#68
On June 03 2010 09:36 LordLastDay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2010 07:38 shalafi wrote:
Seriously? In Korea? You think people is not going to compare both? (And say how much worse and noobish SC2 is)

I wouldn't be so sure about that.
http://www.teamliquid.net/poll/index.php?poll_id=423


Because TL isn't full of people new to professional BW nowadays.

Most Korean gamers know about SCBW, have played it competitively and watched progames, unlike most of the people that comes to TL since SC2 beta.
DrivE
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States2554 Posts
June 03 2010 01:42 GMT
#69
On June 03 2010 09:46 mrdx wrote:
What MBCGame is doing, is truly "for the fans".

What KeSPA did, was not.

Yea, glad they are taking action.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
June 03 2010 01:45 GMT
#70
Nice to see MBCGame is making an attempt. I really don't want progaming to come to an end =/
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Shizuru~
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Malaysia1676 Posts
June 03 2010 01:48 GMT
#71

MBC already signed a sponsors for their next MSL, if they went ahead without the approval of Blizzard and got themselves into all sort of legal problems, what do you think that will look like for their sponsors? of course MBC will be playing safe here...
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3116 Posts
June 03 2010 01:50 GMT
#72
On June 03 2010 03:39 heyoka wrote:
This is such a fun trainwreck to watch. Thanks for the translation.


I agree wholly.

I've been wondering about something like this.

KeSPA's actions so far seem to reveal they have absolutely no confidence in going to court. They act as if they they tried to go ahead and ignore Blizz, Blizz would take them to court and fuck them up. As much as certain TL users like to claim "Korean courts rule for Korean companies," or "American copyright laws don't apply in Korea," everything I'm reading seems to suggest that KeSPA is deathly afraid of going to court.


Personally, I think that reluctance has a lot to do with Kespa's selling of the broadcast rights a few years back...which according to Blizzard is what got this whole thing started. I just can't see any court, Korean or not, backing them up on that.

I think it's more likely that this a symbolic move ("hey, we tried"), given the terms Blizzard was intent upon in the first place. I just can't see either MBC or OGN agreeing to anything remotely like that.

And if they do actually come to an agreement, eSports is going to suffer as a result. The royalty money will have to come from somewhere, and it's not likely that the sponsors will just foot the bill without making cuts elsewhere.


The terms Blizzard demanded from Kespa were specifically for a business partner and overseeing agency for Blizzard games in Korea...which Blizzard now has in GOM--which I'm sure has agreed to similar or identical terms already. They were never planning to demand all of those conditions from the broadcasting corps, sponsors, etc. The way I see it, now that Blizzard has a partner they trust in Korean e-sports, they're basically stepping back and letting GOM handle the nitty-gritty of negotiations and individual agreements with the various firms. GOM will still be in a close partnership with Blizzard, though...

Backing this up, remember that when Kespa's response came out, Blizzard responded with a "No comment," while GOM immediately released a call to negotiations. Basically Blizzard's way of saying "Talk to the GOM!"

I think Blizzard has said all they're going to say for a while; right now, GOM is in charge.
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Drunken Argument
Profile Joined May 2010
United States15 Posts
June 03 2010 02:01 GMT
#73
This move really puts Blizzard in the driver seat. The more contracts that Korean courts would have to break up in order to assert KeSPA's control, the less likely the courts will issue the injunction. KeSPA might be better served at trying to find a place in the new Blizzard/GOM broadcasting structure than getting marginalized.

And for those who say that Blizzard is spelling the end of SCBW eSports with the GOM partnership are mistaken. The days of SCBW were numbered when SC2 was announced. Not because the games or players wouldn't be entertaining or competitive, but because the excitement around the SC2 release would have more fans demanding SC2 eSports, and as the fans go, so does the money...
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-06-03 02:36:18
June 03 2010 02:34 GMT
#74
On June 03 2010 06:44 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2010 03:06 Renaissance wrote:
So it looks like things are going heavily in Blizzard's favour so far.

Blizzard is huge; MBC, OGN and Kespa are dwarves in comparison.

They will get exactly what they ask unfortunately.

Do you even know what Kespa is comprised of?

Also this sounds terrible. If Blizzard gets control of korean esports pro bw is as good as dead.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Veil
Profile Joined May 2010
Korea (South)42 Posts
June 03 2010 02:48 GMT
#75
Ya... the sponsers for the pro teams are not dwarves rofl..
Not enough minerals T_T
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
June 03 2010 03:10 GMT
#76
On June 03 2010 11:48 Veil wrote:
Ya... the sponsers for the pro teams are not dwarves rofl..


the sponsors may not be, but their dedication to sc2 progaming is minimal in the grand scheme of things.
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bjwithbraces
Profile Joined April 2010
United States549 Posts
June 03 2010 03:50 GMT
#77
good on MBC's part just taking things in flow.
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TriniMasta
Profile Joined December 2009
United States1323 Posts
June 03 2010 04:07 GMT
#78
On June 03 2010 03:34 Hier wrote:
Well, looks like the beginning of the end of the BW scene in Korea as we know it.

*sobs uncontrollably*

wow you expect SC2 and BroodWar to be an eSport together?...
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Mellotron
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States329 Posts
June 03 2010 04:07 GMT
#79
I couldnt be happier. Finally some movement and some proactive decision making. Dont get me wrong, i have some fears about what bad could come from this shuffle. But i am trying not to think about those things and instead i am focusing on the fact that money solves problems. Money caused this dispute and now money is solving this dispute. No one will choose to go broke. Everyone involved will eventually choose money over nothing, and they make money off of putting amazing games in front of thrilled audiences and hyping everything to shit. So no matter what happens, we win.
Starcraft player since 1999
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
June 03 2010 05:04 GMT
#80
On June 03 2010 09:36 LordLastDay wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2010 07:38 shalafi wrote:
Seriously? In Korea? You think people is not going to compare both? (And say how much worse and noobish SC2 is)

I wouldn't be so sure about that.
http://www.teamliquid.net/poll/index.php?poll_id=423

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