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disciple
9071 Posts
I can see why you are talking about EffOrt's legacy from your CJ fanboy perspective, but on the larger scale, he has a plenty more to achieve. And if I'm indeed following your evolution as a savior fan, I hope I could be as awesome as you are some day  | ||
Hot_Bid
Braavos36402 Posts
 savior fans have effort, boxer fans have fantasy, oov fans have flash (sort of), nada fans have baby, all with their little quirks that make them so similar. bisu needs a little brother, a mini-bisu on skt or his slump is going to kill his fans. | ||
Waxangel
United States33702 Posts
Casy is a fan favorite old-school player, not a legend. Kind of like rainbow, or Pusan. | ||
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pR0gR4m3R
Spain1446 Posts
There is now a contest for the #1 zerg spot. While Jaedong will be a slight favorite, there will be no resolution to the Effort versus Jaedong debate until the next Starleagues are well under way, or unless either player has an epic proleague failure in round five. Mid-2009, when EffOrt reached a 23-5 record, or alike, that debate was open but people didnt realize. EffOrt´s ZvZ was much way better in that time, although now the #1 zerg is more open to competition with ZerO or Calm Btw, as a BIG EffOrt´s fan, I still dont see the legacy unless he gets another title. CJ is now on fire for the Proleague playoffs, and the best of all is that Iris is going better, snow is a nice addition, and hope Skyhigh and Movie get into shape as soon as possible | ||
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36402 Posts
On May 30 2010 08:35 pR0gR4m3R wrote: Mid-2009, when EffOrt reached a 23-5 record, or alike, that debate was open but people didnt realize. EffOrt´s ZvZ was much way better in that time, although now the #1 zerg is more open to competition with ZerO or Calm I think the time period you're searching for is April to July 2009, when Effort went: Record: 49 wins - 11 losses (81.67%) ZvZ 15-5 (3-1 vs JD) ZvT 22-3 (1-1 vs Flash) ZvP 12-3 (1-0 vs Stork, 0-1 vs Bisu) ...followed by four wins in proleague playoffs, including several in super-ace matches | ||
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disciple
9071 Posts
On May 30 2010 08:35 Waxangel wrote: I can't believe you remember casy as a great player. He had really good TvZ for 8 months which won him a starleague, besides that he was extraordinarily mediocre at everything he played in. If by "great player" you mean a memorable and significant figure, who made his own impact on the professional starcraft scene, then this is pretty much the image I have about Casy in my head. Mocking Casy about his rubbish PvT is like making fun of J'Lo's huge ass - at some point it just becomes a defining feature, besides his obvious qualities which you've pointed out- his great TvZ and incredible mnm control | ||
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pR0gR4m3R
Spain1446 Posts
In that period he pushed CJ to PL playoffs, got over Stork in the final ACE match in a memorable match at Outsider | ||
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7mk
Germany10157 Posts
On May 30 2010 07:44 Crunchums wrote: Effort didn't win this OSL, Flash lost it : / People like you are so freakin delusional, I dont know what to think about it anymore. | ||
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Rkie
United States1278 Posts
He played amazing in the last 3 sets and it showed especially when flash kind of slacked for being up 2-0 | ||
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p14c
Vatican City State431 Posts
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cgrinker
United States3824 Posts
I remember seeing those maphack scans from Flash and just laughing like "what the fuck." I wanted Effort to win you see. | ||
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snowdrift
France2061 Posts
Game Three - Fighting Spirit Kwark's Player Ratings Effort: 2 of 5. Terrible build, morally it should have been a loss, don't let the pressure get to you when you're actually pretty good at builds that work. Oh come on! "Morally"? I've read "undeserved," "dirty zerg," but now a moral argument? rofl | ||
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
We still wished and hoped. Then Effort seemed to come a bit out of his slump. His game vs Fantasy was messy, but it showed some of that great late game play and multitasking that he had; he had been teetering on a knife's edge, and was falling before; but this time he held. He managed to get out of those tiebreakers and our hope was revitalized. We all had our doubts, but he managed to overcome it. Then a couple lucky matchups coupled with good play led him through Zero and Kal. The proleague game vs Flash made our hearts flutter with excitement. Faking Flash out and then riding that out, we all hoped that he would show the same level of play during the finals. The finals came. I voted for Effort and thought he would win, but there was always that logical part of me that told me "Don't get your hopes up, Flash is the best TvZ player in the world". Then he went down 0-2. That logical part of me grew louder - how could Flash lose TvZ 3 times in a row? Effort's play was a bit messy and seemed nervous. But I still prayed and dreamed. Game 3 those zerglings caught those first few marines and my heart started beating faster. Then the mutas came and forced a GG. Game 4 Flash's SCVs left for the proxy and I started to worry. Then I saw that Effort had sent his OV into the middle. I felt giddy with renewed hope. He played pretty much perfectly after, blocking all of Flash's attacks. Only one more game! Game 5 came, I saw them splitting SCVs and thought "well I can't hold it in any longer". I sat there on the toilet praying for both Effort winning and a fast dump. I get back to my room to see the game was over. My mind was blank and it takes me a moment to recognize Kim Jung Woo's triumphant face on my screen. I let out a shout of joy as one of my prayers came true that early morning while the sun was barely up, as the hope of all us CJ fans was realized. A bit dramatic compared to the real thing (wearing nothing but boxers and a CJ shirt, eyes tired from the lack of sleep and crumbs on my mouth from a morning snack ) but nonetheless one of the happiest moments for me as a SC fan. This'll give CJ that injection of confidence! We'll win that Proleague yet. | ||
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luckybeni2
Germany1065 Posts
On May 30 2010 08:34 Hot_Bid wrote: rofl you mean you will feel empty and lost when it comes out bisu has been throwing games this whole time?? savior fans have effort, boxer fans have fantasy, oov fans have flash (sort of), nada fans have baby, all with their little quirks that make them so similar. bisu needs a little brother, a mini-bisu on skt or his slump is going to kill his fans. Really sad to see Stork and Bisu slumping. I just do not trust Kal or Free to hold up and win a title although they are awesome players. Protoss sadly is pretty weak at the moment. Well at least Both stork and bisu made their comebacks so we can still hold our hopes high(remember the time when people thought Best and Jangbi would take their places?) Anyway a mediocre Final. It wasn't really good but in recent history we had to witness so many really bad ones that it seems ok. I just hope next OSL will be good. | ||
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
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XFire
United States131 Posts
On May 30 2010 09:21 cgrinker wrote: Thanks for all the coverage this season! I remember seeing those maphack scans from Flash and just laughing like "what the fuck." I wanted Effort to win you see. I know, I was like "how the hell did he know to scan there?" But... That's Flash for ya. Effort ftw. ^^ | ||
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darktreb
United States3019 Posts
Edit: I also can't believe this Casy vs Effort thing. Somehow Effort's 3 month slump made everyone think he's been terrible for his entire career or something. Effort was really, really fucking good in 2009! He was a top 5 player for half the year, briefly in the conversation for #1 Zerg, and absolutely annihilated every Terran other than Flash and pretty much every Protoss for the last 9 months. This isn't meant to demean Casy's career but now that Effort also has an OSL he's simply had a better career, already. | ||
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Waxangel
United States33702 Posts
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United States8841 Posts
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