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chewychoclat
Profile Joined December 2009
23 Posts
March 06 2010 02:01 GMT
#21
Yeah hugman. I'm on my iPhone while riding the bus and I was like "great I get to listen to day9 while going home" but I guess that's not hapening. Just letting u know ur not the only one who uses an iPod.
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Spenguin
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia3316 Posts
March 06 2010 02:05 GMT
#22
Gom Eng player and maybe the Kor player can play .ogg iirc
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
March 06 2010 02:13 GMT
#23
On March 06 2010 10:59 jetpower wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2010 10:49 hugman wrote:
I don't want to complain because I appreciate the podcast, but iPods don't play oggs and I'm sure I'm not the only one using an iPod for listening to podcasts. I can and will convert it but it's just extra hassle

Yup I agree. My suggestion, if anyone cares, is to make it mp3 or mp4 (aac) in the future. In that way more people will be happy.
(btw: ogg/vorbis files play in Winamp, Foobar2000 and other good music players.)

Why would you even suggest that we use mp3 in the future, when it is what we used previously and now decided (and stated in this thread) that it uses too much bandwidth (ogg Vorbis achieves similar results with much smaller file size - for voice only). We are talking hundreds of GB of traffic per episode here.
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Deleted User 39582
Profile Joined August 2008
317 Posts
March 06 2010 02:13 GMT
#24
On March 06 2010 10:12 Southpaw wrote:
Any idea for MAC users on how to open this?

I believe VLC player works on macs
After7days
Profile Joined December 2009
Denmark52 Posts
March 06 2010 02:42 GMT
#25
http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ opens it fine, a general media player
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
March 06 2010 03:49 GMT
#26
Wow the file took 1 second for me to download! rofl
danl9rm
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States3111 Posts
March 06 2010 03:52 GMT
#27
I'll probably get yelled at for this, but I'm just letting u guys know I'm gona skip out on this podcast. I see you have good reasons for doing it, but I have my own reasons for not downloading a whole new media player for 30 mins of coverage. Maybe after everyone else goes .ogg I'll have to get back on the wagon.
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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
March 06 2010 04:08 GMT
#28
lol you dont have VLC player on your comp?
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-06 04:42:33
March 06 2010 04:19 GMT
#29
Reason we switched to ogg from mp3 is size. We almost busted our bw cap last month because the podcasts were download a lot, so we'll see how this works out for now.
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-06 04:42:17
March 06 2010 04:34 GMT
#30
On March 06 2010 13:19 Kennigit wrote:
Reason we switched to ogg from mp3 is size. We almost busted our bw cap last month because the podcasts were download a lot, so we'll see how this works out for now.

The previous casts took me about 15-20 min to dl, this one took 1 second and works flawlessly on vlc. In short: <3
Qualm
Profile Joined December 2009
721 Posts
March 06 2010 04:43 GMT
#31
I managed to open it with both Audacity and FireFox (lol), and since VLC seems to open it as well I really don't see what the fuss is all about.
RodrigoX
Profile Joined November 2009
United States645 Posts
March 06 2010 04:45 GMT
#32
yeah seriously mp3 was working so so so much better.Really no reason what so ever to change it. I probably cant even listen to it now on my ipod. thank you soo much!
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
March 06 2010 04:46 GMT
#33
im pretty sure the latest versions of LAME mp3 arent considerably worse than ogg vorbis anymore... using a smaller VBR or ABR lame format could still reduce the filesize and still keep it accessible to the less software-equipped of us
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Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
March 06 2010 05:01 GMT
#34
On March 06 2010 13:45 RodrigoX wrote:
yeah seriously mp3 was working so so so much better.Really no reason what so ever to change it. I probably cant even listen to it now on my ipod. thank you soo much!

I just explained the reason to change it. good job.
Foreplay
Profile Joined May 2008
United States1154 Posts
March 06 2010 05:16 GMT
#35
o sweet ret vs infernal liquibition! o it's sc2.... should still be good though
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TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
March 06 2010 05:22 GMT
#36
God bunch of ungrateful whiney little dicks in this thread. It takes literally seconds to convert it, and it eases the load on already taxed servers, you REALLY cant take that 1 minute to convert it? good god
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Carnac
Profile Blog Joined December 2003
Germany / USA16648 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-06 05:34:19
March 06 2010 05:26 GMT
#37
On March 06 2010 13:46 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
im pretty sure the latest versions of LAME mp3 arent considerably worse than ogg vorbis anymore... using a smaller VBR or ABR lame format could still reduce the filesize and still keep it accessible to the less software-equipped of us

Not like VBR is gonna make a whole lot of difference when it's just people talking...

I have 3 or 4 media players installed (for various reasons) and they all play ogg vorbis out of the box -.- It's not like ogg vorbis is obscure in any way, hell Blizzard even uses it for the game sounds in SC2.

Sure, it's not ideal for people who would only listen to it in standalone players that can't play the format..., a little drawback that is certainly outweighed by the money TL saves. For anyone else there's really no reason at all to complain.

And now back to discussing the actual content of this podcast!
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Brett
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Australia3822 Posts
March 06 2010 06:00 GMT
#38
On March 06 2010 13:45 RodrigoX wrote:
yeah seriously mp3 was working so so so much better.Really no reason what so ever to change it. I probably cant even listen to it now on my ipod. thank you soo much!

Wow... No reason eh? You're pretty stupid.

Thanks for the podcast. Forget the whinging twats complaining about the format.
LegoShrimp
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6 Posts
March 06 2010 06:08 GMT
#39
switching the file format really cuts accessibility down. Many people will not download a new media player just for playing these files.

But also the reason why your ogg files are so much smaller isn't because the format is better at compressing the files its that they are at 48kb/s instead of the 128 your mp3 files where encoded at, or at least the last sc2 beta podcast. If you encode mp3s at a lower bit rate that should be better for your bandwidth and your users.
This is very Quotable.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-03-06 07:16:24
March 06 2010 07:14 GMT
#40
Somewhat annoyed that I have no way to open this; and since it's the only file I've ever seen with this sort of type, I'm not going to waste space on my computer with a new player when EVERY other sound file I've ever seen can be opened in windows media player... Oh well. Guess I'll have to catch the casts when they're actually on.

Anyone have a transcript? =p
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