I cant believe how much MBC fucked this up, its not even funny. How can they be such amateurs? Who the fuck was responsible for the IT? Getting an UPS is the FIRST thing you get when its IMPORTANT, that your hardware keeps running.
They either dont give two fucking shits about esport or (and i dont know whats worse) are the dumbest incapable infants who run a tv company.

MBC -> [image loading]

Ao_Jun

Denmark396 Posts

January 23 2010 23:34 GMT

#342

Lets have them replay the entire series! that would rock, maybe make it a Bo9 this time.

KillerMan2k

Norway13 Posts

January 23 2010 23:37 GMT

#343

anyone remember the game flash vs savior on blue storm in the GSI i think.. ? if anybody would have told me that flash was gonna win that game, the moment savior raped his natural and had a shit load of muta/guardians outside his base i would have branded them morons! well flash did in fact win that game. just as he could have won this one as well. ok lets be fair flash had a bit of an disadvantage, truth be told. but if the game had not been stopped and flash had won you wouldn't hear me shout "comeback of the year". quite on the contrary, i see players getting out off bigger jam's on daily basis. so c'mon guys this is flash, srsly!

Apexplayer

United States406 Posts

January 23 2010 23:38 GMT

#344

I've heard people complain so much about mbc and now i am one of them..

Foreigners must be the best at SC2 so we can get rid of kespa!

danbel1005

United States1319 Posts

January 23 2010 23:38 GMT

#345

On January 24 2010 08:34 Ao_Jun wrote:
Lets have them replay the entire series! that would rock, maybe make it a Bo9 this time.

BO5 = Great Games with a stupid incident.
BO9 = Great Series with lots of stupid incidents.

StarsPride

United States364 Posts

January 23 2010 23:50 GMT

#346

only two games were played this final and that was the first two.
If flash lost game three through his own demise and not that of a power outage. Game 4 would have played much different and i think we woulda saw one epic fucking series. But as far as im concerned i didnt even see a bo3 let alone a bo5.

tofucake

Hyrule19012 Posts

January 24 2010 00:01 GMT

#347

We saw a Bo2, and it was a tie.

Loanshark

China3094 Posts

January 24 2010 00:05 GMT

#348

MBC can never get anything right.

They are doomed to never have a good final. Look at the last few MSL finals:

Jangbi vs Luxury
Calm vs Kwanro
Then this.

torm3ntin

Brazil2534 Posts

January 24 2010 00:07 GMT

#349

i hate u mbc...

Mykill

Canada3402 Posts

January 24 2010 00:08 GMT

#350

damn nice writeup i was out all day. just came back to find all this.

MountainDewJunkie

United States10340 Posts

January 24 2010 00:09 GMT

#351

Jaedong bit, kicked, and scratched and finally looked like he might have an advantage in that game. But I want to clarify something that people don't seem to get:

Advantage =/= "99% win probability"!!!

After all, Flash had the advantage when he took down the 1/2oclock and almost killed the 3/4 oclock. If the power went out there, do we give Flash the win? That's how these games go: advantages can swap back and forth. Even though I think that Jaedong had an advantage, this does not mean that he would have won!

They should have either done a regame or rescheduled the series and start from scratch. Considering that Flash almost walked out, KT almost walked out, and Flash's dad had to be removed from the premises, and judging from that joke of a 4th game, it was obvious that no one was in it anymore. Everyone lost. Jaedong didn't look happy at all after the 3rd game. Flash looked like he had already checked out mentally.

We all lose.

TeH_Mentalist

Korea (South)244 Posts

January 24 2010 00:12 GMT

#352

wtf I had to look at the spoilers jsut to see what kespa did now.I am disgusted >_>

Ryuu314

United States12679 Posts

January 24 2010 00:20 GMT

#353

On January 24 2010 08:37 KillerMan2k wrote:
so c'mon guys this is flash, srsly!

well, unfortunately, his opponent is JD...who has at least an equal skill level with Flash.

Personally, I feel that giving the win to JD was probably the right choice. However, it wasn't fair. The whole thing couldn't have been fair no matter how u do it. That said, they should just make sure they have adequate power supplies and shit whenever they hold these things. It's just ridiculous that there would be a freaking power outage in an e-sports final and the MSL at that -.-

Liquid`Nazgul

22427 Posts

January 24 2010 00:30 GMT

#354

On January 24 2010 09:09 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Jaedong bit, kicked, and scratched and finally looked like he might have an advantage in that game. But I want to clarify something that people don't seem to get:

Advantage =/= "99% win probability"!!!

After all, Flash had the advantage when he took down the 1/2oclock and almost killed the 3/4 oclock. If the power went out there, do we give Flash the win? That's how these games go: advantages can swap back and forth. Even though I think that Jaedong had an advantage, this does not mean that he would have won!

They should have either done a regame or rescheduled the series and start from scratch. Considering that Flash almost walked out, KT almost walked out, and Flash's dad had to be removed from the premises, and judging from that joke of a 4th game, it was obvious that no one was in it anymore. Everyone lost. Jaedong didn't look happy at all after the 3rd game. Flash looked like he had already checked out mentally.

We all lose.

You seem not to be able to diversify between different kinds of advantages. Others can though. No matter what you think of the decision I think it is pretty obvious you can't just randomly compare different kinds of advantages and point to say look he overcame it.

gjg.instinct

144 Posts

January 24 2010 00:30 GMT

#355

It's too bad they didn't have a better solution, though.

Were it up to me, having watched the 3rd game twice now, I would have given the win to JD, but then made it a Bo7 series. Each player could have drawn one map from the map pool to play it twice (or 3x in the case of match point). Clearly both players were affected by the decision, as was displayed in the final game by both build orders.

4/7 games to win would have reduced the trauma of the power outage..Flash would have had a real chance to regain his stride and Jae dong would have been able to win convincingly and beyond contest. As it is now, everyone is left feeling bitter.

Mista_Masta

Netherlands557 Posts

January 24 2010 00:30 GMT

#356

I just want to say a few things. First of all, many people complain about the map being 'imba' in the favor of Terran. However, this has NOTHING to do with whether there should have been a re-game or not.

Second, I was rooting for Flash, but I don't think the decision was a bad one. I personally prefer a re-game, but even as a Flash-fan, I think he didn't have a realistic chance to win game 3. However, I think all the bullshitting afterward is what made Flash lose his focus and with it game 4. I'm not saying JD wouldn't have won game 4 otherwise, but Flash appeared really tired, and I think in different circumstances he would've played better.

All in all, it was quite disappointing.

rotinegg

United States1719 Posts

January 24 2010 00:31 GMT

#357

i will admit my sig gives me a huge bias, but I am gonna say that kespa chose the lesser evil out of the two. Im a jaedong fan, but not a rabid one, and I am also a huge fan of flash (except when he bunker rushed jaedong out of the OSL and i called him a dickcuntfagdickshitballsuckingFUCKFACE). it kinda sucks to be a jaedong fan cuz it seems u automatically get the 'rabid' prefix. in any case, in my most objective view, imho the advantage was large enough to merit an autowin... no large mnm army, lesser upgrades, no tanks (his single factory was used for barricading and it didnt even have a machine shop attached), no vessels when fully upgraded ultra/lings/defilers are pumping from 4 bases and no map control/inability to take expansions past your nat 18 minutes into the game is a big enough disadvantage i think.

I take comfort with the fact that I dont think flash took it that hard... You can see from his facial expressions, or the "start start start start start 1a2a3a4a" he was typing in chat before game 4 started, or the smile and handshake he gave jaedong after the series that he wasnt as infuriated as his coaching staff or his father. or maybe he is just the fucking man and knows how to not let emotions take control of him and acknowledge his disadvantage in game 3. if ANYTHING, i think this situation sucks for jaedong, as he is probably feeling really bad for wat happened to flash as they are like best buds.. and also cuz he knows his msl victory and all the new records that he established with it are gonna be tainted forever. sucks that this ever had to happen, mbc can suck my balls for trying their stupid separate gaming arena shit without even taking care of such a basic thing as power supply

rotinegg

United States1719 Posts

January 24 2010 00:33 GMT

#358

On January 24 2010 09:09 MountainDewJunkie wrote:
Jaedong bit, kicked, and scratched and finally looked like he might have an advantage in that game. But I want to clarify something that people don't seem to get:

Advantage =/= "99% win probability"!!!

After all, Flash had the advantage when he took down the 1/2oclock and almost killed the 3/4 oclock. If the power went out there, do we give Flash the win? That's how these games go: advantages can swap back and forth. Even though I think that Jaedong had an advantage, this does not mean that he would have won!

They should have either done a regame or rescheduled the series and start from scratch. Considering that Flash almost walked out, KT almost walked out, and Flash's dad had to be removed from the premises, and judging from that joke of a 4th game, it was obvious that no one was in it anymore. Everyone lost. Jaedong didn't look happy at all after the 3rd game. Flash looked like he had already checked out mentally.

We all lose.

i would love to see any evidence that supports ur claim other than tl posts that say "Flash should have just walked out!"

BAD_Z

England4 Posts

January 24 2010 00:38 GMT

#359

I cant believe such thing can happen in Korea ,It was probably because of the those carton boxes and labels that they have putted on top of the monitors , so they couldn't cool properly ,and overheated eventually.

starcraft911

Korea (South)1263 Posts

January 24 2010 00:44 GMT

#360

I'm going to have to agree with nazgul on this. It would have a bigger screw up to regame because of the current situation. Both options are bad, but the lesser of two evils was chosen... How a computer overheats playing SC is beyond me........ Maybe some more reliable hardware would be a good move.