• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 06:54
CET 12:54
KST 20:54
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns3[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1822Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach
Tourneys
WardiTV Winter Cup OSC Season 13 World Championship uThermal 2v2 Circuit WardiTV Mondays $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution
Brood War
General
Data analysis on 70 million replays I would like to say something about StarCraft BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Empty tournaments section on Liquipedia A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone
Tourneys
[BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread The Big Programming Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
Psychological Factors That D…
TrAiDoS
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
GOAT of Goats list
BisuDagger
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1467 users

[MSL] Power Underwhelming - Page 25

Forum Index > News
488 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 23 24 25 All
Nokeboy
Profile Joined December 2008
United States1009 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-26 17:03:38
January 26 2010 16:56 GMT
#481
You can't really blame Kespa either... either way they were going to have trouble on their hands. If they gave a regame, (Z)Jaedong would have been cheated (now that you guys have watched the VOD). Either way, someone was going to get screwed, whether its (Z)Jaedong because he was ahead, or (T)Flash. It was just an unfortunate circumstance that should have never happened. Blame whoever caused the Power to go out.

I do kind of feel bad for both parties though. The big problems were basically this: It was (Z)Jaedong vs (T)Flash and it was the MSL Finals. If it would have been (Z)Hydra vs (P)Doctor.K(2 random players I thought up), you wouldn't have complained about the decision and thought it was fair... Only because it is (T)Flash vs (Z)Jaedong is why you have the problem. Kespa has to stick by their own rules, can't just change it on the go.
vRoOk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1024 Posts
January 26 2010 21:01 GMT
#482
I agree that Jaedong was gonna win.. feel bad for flash but a rematch would have been way unfair.
Breaking Bad
Kashll
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1117 Posts
January 26 2010 22:47 GMT
#483
They shouldve just had a regame on battle royale
"After silence, that which comes nearest to expressing the inexpressible is music." - Aldous Huxley
luckybeni2
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1065 Posts
January 26 2010 23:41 GMT
#484
I won't comment on how I feel about the decision again but I just wanted to say that when this MSL started I was like: there's no way this can be a bad Tournament. The round of 32 had just so many possible finalists. and what happened then? All these legends like Stork, Bisu Fantasy, Calm, and Sea. Think of the series and which one was the best? No Iris vs Bisu or Nada vs Jangbi to stay in mind. Just a hyped final everybody looked forward to that turned into the lamest series of the whole tournament.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
January 27 2010 03:33 GMT
#485
On January 27 2010 08:41 luckybeni2 wrote:
I won't comment on how I feel about the decision again but I just wanted to say that when this MSL started I was like: there's no way this can be a bad Tournament. The round of 32 had just so many possible finalists. and what happened then? All these legends like Stork, Bisu Fantasy, Calm, and Sea. Think of the series and which one was the best? No Iris vs Bisu or Nada vs Jangbi to stay in mind. Just a hyped final everybody looked forward to that turned into the lamest series of the whole tournament.


what really you think all the games sucked lolllllllllll???????????
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
Plethora
Profile Joined July 2007
United States206 Posts
January 27 2010 04:27 GMT
#486
On January 27 2010 12:33 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 27 2010 08:41 luckybeni2 wrote:
I won't comment on how I feel about the decision again but I just wanted to say that when this MSL started I was like: there's no way this can be a bad Tournament. The round of 32 had just so many possible finalists. and what happened then? All these legends like Stork, Bisu Fantasy, Calm, and Sea. Think of the series and which one was the best? No Iris vs Bisu or Nada vs Jangbi to stay in mind. Just a hyped final everybody looked forward to that turned into the lamest series of the whole tournament.


what really you think all the games sucked lolllllllllll???????????


The resolution sucked, no matter how you look at it. And it was even worse because the first two games were so good. Game 3 was on its way to being epic but then the power fiasco happened which robbed us of not only the epicness of game 3 but game 4 as well since game 4 was in fact lame.

Quite frankly I feel robbed as a fan in kind of the same way as if either flash or jaedong had been upset in the semi's and then seen the other just plain steamroll in an uncontested finals. The whole thing just feels empty and anti-climactic.
... Still like Brood War better... lol
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-29 14:09:21
January 29 2010 14:08 GMT
#487
Every player is entitled to a comeback unless he's just about to type gg.
This would hurt jaedong more than flash. Thats the truth, Jaedong would have been more hurt by the power outage. The player having an advantage is always hurt by these things when there's a rematch.

but atleast he would have a chance...

1 No replay.

2 No way of knowing how much cash flash had and a moment.

3 A situation where flash didn't and wouldn't have typed GG for minutes to come.

Jaedong was at an advantage. Big or small, the game wasn't over since jaedong wasn't in flashes base when the blackout occured. He wasn't offensive which gives flash time to make moves.

I also think jaedong would have won that game, but the decision was not a good call.
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
the nooby SC kid
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada14 Posts
January 30 2010 04:49 GMT
#488
Flash wasnt himself at the msl PERIOD. i feel bad for flash it is not fair but i guess no one can blame kespa for following the rules that the sc community have agreed to. well i think that flash IS THE TRUE MSL WINNER AFTER DESTROYING JAEDONG IN THE PROLEAGUE. flash just out macroed jaedong, out microed jaedong, and jaeong just got pwned even when he got 4 bases running. FLASH REVENGED JAEONG
hi people
PhOeniX[MinD]
Profile Joined August 2008
361 Posts
January 31 2010 23:51 GMT
#489
Kespa decicion really suck, im agree with chill
KT_FlaSh #1
Prev 1 23 24 25 All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 6m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 219
OGKoka 187
SC2Nice 31
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 8496
Rain 2677
Horang2 2386
Shuttle 1233
Jaedong 999
GuemChi 990
actioN 431
EffOrt 377
BeSt 266
Mini 260
[ Show more ]
Light 229
Hyuk 203
ZerO 165
Sharp 147
Rush 136
Snow 128
Aegong 126
firebathero 105
Pusan 89
hero 84
ggaemo 59
Barracks 59
Killer 59
Mong 51
Sexy 50
JYJ 49
ToSsGirL 40
Mind 34
Nal_rA 26
Sacsri 22
soO 19
ZergMaN 17
Icarus 16
ajuk12(nOOB) 11
yabsab 11
JulyZerg 9
Dota 2
XaKoH 726
XcaliburYe129
NeuroSwarm79
League of Legends
C9.Mang0451
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1339
shoxiejesuss1039
zeus728
x6flipin488
edward242
Other Games
singsing1763
B2W.Neo1313
Gorgc1256
Pyrionflax382
crisheroes271
JimRising 194
KnowMe135
ZerO(Twitch)13
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick28321
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 85
• LUISG 31
• naamasc224
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 6
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2878
Upcoming Events
OSC
6m
Creator vs NightMare
SKillous vs SHIN
Gerald vs YoungYakov
Cure vs ReBellioN
Classic vs Percival
WardiTV64
PiGosaur Cup
13h 6m
SOOP
16h 6m
OSC
1d
OSC
2 days
SOOP
3 days
The PondCast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
IPSL
5 days
DragOn vs Sziky
Replay Cast
5 days
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
6 days
Monday Night Weeklies
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL Season 21
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
OSC Championship Season 13
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.