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[TSL] Qualifiers R3 Casts
January 11th, 2010 05:07 GMT
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The stream is over, VODs will be up soon!
Saturday, January 16th, 2010
Broadcast: 11:00 PST / 14:00 EST / 20:00 CET / 04:00 TL Time (next day)
Casted Matchups:
Update: Mana vs Castro will not be cast on Saturday. Kolll vs Morrow will be broadcast instead.
Saturday Casters:
Dan "Artosis" Stemkoski and Nick "Tasteless" Plott
+ Show Spoiler [Show Caster Bios] +Dan "Artosis" Stemkoski was a top American Terran player before beginning his casting career by covering mainly non-Korean online tournaments like Ascension. After casting the Razer TSL in 2008, Artosis moved to Korea and now does interviews and coverage for IEG, the media giant that sponsors the eSTRO professional gaming team. Artosis joined Tasteless to cast Blizzcon 2008 and 2009, as well as the WCG Grand Final this year. Artosis is known as "The Wikipedia of StarCraft" for his comprehensive knowledge of the game.
Nick "Tasteless" Plott is regarded by many as the top English professional StarCraft commentator. Tasteless began his career with WCG USA Finals in 2005, and casted several other live events throughout the United States. In 2008, he became the first English-only caster to move to Korea, covering all seasons of GomTV's TG-Intel Classic and the WCG Grand Finals from 2005 to this year. Tasteless also casted many events for Blizzard, including their World Wide Invitational (since 2006) and Blizzcon (since 2007). Tasteless's nickname is the "Storm Observer" for his energy, humor, and enthusiasm.
Sunday, January 17th, 2010
Broadcast: 11:00 PST / 14:00 EST / 20:00 CET / 04:00 TL Time (next day)
Casted Matchups:
Sunday Casters:
Blake "Chill" Muzar and Sean "Day[9]" Plott
+ Show Spoiler [Show Caster Bios] +Blake "Chill" Muzar started out by making several strategic commentaries before casting events for TeamLiquid.net, including several seasons of TL Attack! and Liquibition. Chill was Artosis' casting partner for the Razer TSL and also moderates TeamLiquid's Strategy Forum. Chill is known for his strategic knowledge, dry humor, and brutally honest comments.
Sean "Day[9]" Plott is Tasteless's younger brother and a top American Zerg player who was invited to represent the United States at the WCG Grand Final three times. He currently hosts the program Day[9] TV on TeamLiquid.net that analyzes recent professional Korean StarCraft matches. Day also casted for hundreds of TeamLiquiders at Blizzcon 2009, providing refreshing analysis and live commentary of the OSL Finals between Jaedong and YellOw[ArnC]. Day is known for his deep strategical analysis.
How to Watch?
Stream will be provided at match time.
What is at Stake?
Winner qualifies for TSL. Loser is eliminated.
Winner also earns a minimum of $250 prize money, and an opportunity for much more.
Saturday Map Order:
Fighting Spirit, Outsider, Destination, Andromeda, Neo Tornado
Sunday Map Order:
Neo Tornado, Andromeda, Destination, Outsider, Fighting Spirit
Not Streamed on Saturday:
Not Streamed on Sunday:
Results and Replays:
Full non-streamed R3 matches results and replays will be released at the end of each day's casts.
All Players:
Details about match times and locations will be sent via email.
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can't wait! NONY FIGHTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope Ret gets crushed 0-3
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3 of the 4 best players in R3 aren't being streamed. That's disappointing.
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OMG is going to be great.. !!
mouz.MaNa < Bo5 > [Pan]CaStrO
GosI[Terran] < Bo5 > mTw.iNfeRnaL
RoX.KIS.Fenix < Bo5 > iG.Casper [i cant decide]
ToT)Mondragon( < Bo5 > Shaman
iG.kogeT < Bo5 > ToT)XiaOzI(
Ret < Bo5 > NrT.FlaF
DuskBin.Sen < Bo5 > mouz.GhosTa
mouz.Strelok < Bo5 > [Pan]KabaL
mouz.White-Ra < Bo5 > mTw.CloseR
Liquid`NonY < Bo5 > mTw.HoRRoR
mouz.Sziky < Bo5 > iG.Tarson
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wow i'm really excited. Gonna have awesome casting :D
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On January 11 2010 14:23 Mastermind wrote:
3 of the 4 best players in R3 aren't being streamed. That's disappointing.
u kno what is more disappointing than that
two easy wins and a zvz, cuz thats the cast ur mastermindin
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What I really want to see is a cast featuring both Tasteless and Day9. I wouldn't care who's playing.
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On January 11 2010 14:16 eXNewB wrote:
can't wait! NONY FIGHTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope Ret gets crushed 0-3
 What do you have against Ret?
And why are so many qualifiers not streamed?
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United States13896 Posts
And the hits just keep on coming!
Can't wait for these casts.
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Why Bo5? I'm assuming that the first round of Ro16 is a Bo3?
seems weird to jump from a bo5 to a bo3 is all
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On January 11 2010 14:45 jalstar wrote:
Why Bo5? I'm assuming that the first round of Ro16 is a Bo3?
seems weird to jump from a bo5 to a bo3 is all
Why would you assume the first round is bo3?
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Can't wait for some real nice casts of the games! 
Thx to all the comentators, and everyone else working on tsl, for putting all this effort into the event!
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Oh wow! I can't wait to see Mondi vs Shaman! This will be one epic match-up! I love TSL! <3
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TASTELESS!!!
did he do the last ones too?
i'm gonna go check, i didn't watch the last streaming ones and etc etc
should do Tasteless + Day[9] cast srsly
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is this the first time tasteless has done a teamliquid casting??
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NOoooooooooooooooooooo
I was hoping for plott brothers commentating together!! =[[[[[[[
oh well, i guess we'll see it eventually...
maybe not cause i think tasteless and artosis do it because they're both in korea? so its like easier to handle the schedule or something
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On January 11 2010 15:22 OmgIRok wrote:
NOoooooooooooooooooooo
I was hoping for plott brothers commentating together!! =[[[[[[[
oh well, i guess we'll see it eventually...
maybe not cause i think tasteless and artosis do it because they're both in korea? so its like easier to handle the schedule or something
nah cause you see sc2gg people doing triple commentaries all the time =O
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Oh boy. I'm really stoked for this. TSL is so good!
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It's like cristmas all over again...
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Mondi vs Shaman was always interesting, and I have a feeling Shaman could take it this time.
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I think double Plotts would be too much to handle o.O Nonetheless, Tastosis fighting!
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I distinctly remember Tasteless making a tweet that named the casting duo "Artasteless" =O
"Artasteless" > "Tastosis"
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My cup runneth overfill!
You guys are doing a stellar job. Rock on!
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Man I'm stoked.
Day[9]/tasteless is a treat for the ears
Thanks TL and Poker Strat!
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On January 11 2010 15:16 Nal_rAwr wrote:
TASTELESS!!!
did he do the last ones too?
i'm gonna go check, i didn't watch the last streaming ones and etc etc
No he didnt. Artosis and Chill did it and it was over one Match up only (Nony vs Idra).
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hope i'll get to watch this live.
i love the games you picked.
can't wait to see Shaman, Mondragon, Infernal and CaStrO playing.
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On January 11 2010 16:18 Roggles wrote:
I think double Plotts would be too much to handle o.O Nonetheless, Tastosis fighting!
Agreed -.-a
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After watching casper vs dreiven . Im very excited to see casper vs fenix. Should be a very good set of games.
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THIS is going to be very interesting mohaha
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lol, Tastosis sounds like some kind of a testicle disease. Anyway, I really like the choice of games that are to be casted live, can't wait for Saturday to come!
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excited for tasteless to be casting some TSL. This will be good
tasteless should enter the commentating contest for sh-ts and giggles
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No Ret vs FlaF game
I know...zvz. But we are talking about Ret here :D .
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Altough i won't lose no matter what game is casted i wonder why not the top ranked players are not streamed instead of these games?
Any official response?
Ty anyway!
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Still waiting for epic Plott duo =(
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2 great casters, chill and day9 will be great!
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I wonder why people wish to see more of the "top ranked" players games being casted. Those games have a very good chance of being one-sided rapes...
The casted games will be awesome. 1. No mirrors 2. equally skilled players for the most part
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HYPE! TSL is friggin awesome! Can't wait!
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Awesome. Great job to all the organisers and people behind the scenes at TSL putting up another great event.
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You`re streaming Fenix vs Casper, and not streaming Ret vs FlaF or White-Ra vs CloseR or NonY vs HoRRoR ?
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On January 11 2010 22:36 shiner wrote:You`re streaming Fenix vs Casper, and not streaming Ret vs FlaF or White-Ra vs CloseR or NonY vs HoRRoR ?
i dont think you will be disappointed. the other matches (that u named) werent picked because they are expected to be one-sided/less interesting while fenix vs caspar is probably going to be a really exciting series with interesting games. i think many ppl are eager to see more of caspar and fenix is such a great pvt gamer.
i actually hope caspar wins but realistically speaking its about 60%+ for fenix, but then again im right in about 1 out of 3 bets at anything lol
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On January 11 2010 20:31 ggrrg wrote:
I wonder why people wish to see more of the "top ranked" players games being casted. Those games have a very good chance of being one-sided rapes...
The casted games will be awesome. 1. No mirrors 2. equally skilled players for the most part
The answer goes with a question.
Why does people like to see flash or jaedong or stork or bisu playing?
We enjoy the most high lvl players playing and raping anyone they can no matter if it's one two three or four sided
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On January 11 2010 23:01 torm3ntin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2010 20:31 ggrrg wrote:
I wonder why people wish to see more of the "top ranked" players games being casted. Those games have a very good chance of being one-sided rapes...
The casted games will be awesome. 1. No mirrors 2. equally skilled players for the most part The answer goes with a question. Why does people like to see flash or jaedong or stork or bisu playing? We enjoy the most high lvl players playing and raping anyone they can no matter if it's one two three or four sided
sorry buddy i totaly disagree with you
nony vs idra was okay to watch,
but dreiven vs casper was awesome to watch, that games simply were the most interesting to watch in the first two rounds and noway anyone would want see a boring zvz over caster vs a great pvt player like fenix
the picked matches are very good,
i would have picked white-ra vs closer instead of mana vs castro (but i think here are still people underrating closer to much and thinks white-ra will advance easy, while its close to 50% who will advance in this game)
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Seriously. This is way too cool. Stop it. Now.
Cheers TL!
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It would have been great imo if tl had actively been engaged in outsourcing the games they weren't themselves going to cast.. for instance reserving a livestream for non-tl casters (willing to commit themselves to a fixed schedule) to cast the games.. I actually thought that the casting challenge was at least in part designed to fill this gap, but it doesn't seem to be the case. Reps are fun too I guess.. and not as time consuming.
Anyways, I hope Ret doesn't lose. Also rooting for XiaOzI and el Nonyo. Looking forward to all the matches!
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For everybody begging for a Plott brothers commentary: It's not going to happen in this TSL
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=105717
Those are the commentating teams and further on in the thread Nazgul confirmed they will stick to that. The explanation for this is probably so the casters can better adjust their commentary on their partners style thus resulting in a better overall commentary.
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May the best players win!
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On January 11 2010 14:23 PhOeniX[MinD] wrote:
OMG is going to be great.. !!
mouz.MaNa < Bo5 > [Pan]CaStrO
GosI[Terran] < Bo5 > mTw.iNfeRnaL
RoX.KIS.Fenix < Bo5 > iG.Casper [i cant decide]
ToT)Mondragon( < Bo5 > Shaman
iG.kogeT < Bo5 > ToT)XiaOzI(
Ret < Bo5 > NrT.FlaF
DuskBin.Sen < Bo5 > mouz.GhosTa
mouz.Strelok < Bo5 > [Pan]KabaL
mouz.White-Ra < Bo5 > mTw.CloseR
Liquid`NonY < Bo5 > mTw.HoRRoR
mouz.Sziky < Bo5 > iG.Tarson
Infernal Sen and Sziky will win for sure ;p
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Finland1714 Posts
too hot to handle, im definitely gonna catch these live!
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I love how there are only 2 mirror mus going on
And that there are quite many terrans still alive and kicking as well
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On January 11 2010 20:10 torm3ntin wrote:
Altough i won't lose no matter what game is casted i wonder why not the top ranked players are not streamed instead of these games?
Any official response?
Ty anyway!
We decided against the potentially one-sided games with a favorite in them because at this point right before TSL explodes we would prefer to broadcast the better series and give the other players some more well deserved exposure. You will be pumped to see Nony and White-ra in TSL regardless of what they show next weekend, these other guys in the matches we picked are amazing as well and we are hoping this is an opportunity for them to show this to you.
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very well done picking those matches !
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Can't wait to see results for ret's games, I really think he might lose unless he has gotten better in zvz, but I wish he would move on since he is such a nice guy. And Castro has to lose otherwise his next streamed game might get paused for an hour since he will likely be at work
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On January 12 2010 02:09 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
We decided against the potentially one-sided games with a favorite in them because at this point right before TSL explodes we would prefer to broadcast the better series and give the other players some more well deserved exposure. You will be pumped to see Nony and White-ra in TSL regardless of what they show next weekend, these other guys in the matches we picked are amazing as well and we are hoping this is an opportunity for them to show this to you.
Thanks Nazgul.
As i tould you i would never miss even if it was my sister playing. But in the end you guys are right
Let's give others the chance to shine and maybe get some fans over there. Maybe even me :D
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dang looking at that list, I see a lot of really good players who aren't even going to get into the ro16. one match with a lot of potential for disapointment is ret vs flaf, if ret loses (a possibility since its a mu he just learned) then we won't see him in ro16 at all, and flaf is also a really good player who was unfortunate enough to get matched with ret.
edit: it will be great to watch the other more unknown players too, it makes me wish i was better at the game so i could be in this ... maybe tsl3 :D
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Looks like all the losers of the DC LAN have something to watch (at least for a bit).
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Really looking forward to this.
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Sen is gonna rape GhosTa
Cheering for ret, Sen, Nony, White Ra!!!
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4 games I would have preferred to see casted over either of these: White-Ra vs Closer, Morrow vs Koll, Nony vs Horror, Sziky vs Tarson
oh well
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i think they cant cast every game 538.
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Go Ra, Nony!
Gonna be amazing games :D
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i LOVE the picks!
so much looking forward to this.
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Pitcairn19291 Posts
Damnnn, Artosis + Tasteless followed by Chill + Day9. Only thing better would be all 4 of them casting the same games.
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On January 11 2010 14:16 eXNewB wrote:
can't wait! NONY FIGHTING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I hope Ret gets crushed 0-3
Thats a stupid comment with no reason given.
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cant figure out a reason not to stream ret and flaf.. Dont you guys want to know if he has improved his ZvZ especially against a person like flaf who has the greatest map control ever. I think it was nazgul wrote that the matchup with the least one-sided factor was chosen.
Still it's going to be great to hear from the handsome nerds again.
Morrow is going to cheese the brain out of kolll
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Baa?21242 Posts
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Awesome - Saturday is total Live Stream day followed by LAN party now. Thanks TL!
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Valhalla18444 Posts
On January 13 2010 07:18 gunsakimbo wrote:
Awesome - Saturday is total Live Stream day followed by LAN party now. Thanks TL!
A complete day of StarCraft is a beautiful thing
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I believe Strelok vs Kabal is a must =)
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On January 11 2010 23:01 torm3ntin wrote:Show nested quote +On January 11 2010 20:31 ggrrg wrote:
I wonder why people wish to see more of the "top ranked" players games being casted. Those games have a very good chance of being one-sided rapes...
The casted games will be awesome. 1. No mirrors 2. equally skilled players for the most part The answer goes with a question. Why does people like to see flash or jaedong or stork or bisu playing? We enjoy the most high lvl players playing and raping anyone they can no matter if it's one two three or four sided
We want them play against other very good players but games like the Jaedong/Stats or Jaedong/Firefist werent nearly as entertaining as those where it is a close battle from start to finish, even if the players arent as skilled.
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Go Morrow! I expect him to do some brilliant cheese in atleast one of the games!
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in this tsl ONE GAME MUST BE CASTED BY TASTLESS AND DAY9 I WANT THE PLOT PWER ^^
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saturday is gonna be an awesome day of starcraft yay
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Ah, come on, your streaming castro, fenix and infernal but not Ret, white-ra (two clear favorites in this stage) or nony and kolll (everyone wants to know how they will perform)?
I am disappoint.
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
On January 15 2010 18:49 Navane wrote:
Ah, come on, your streaming castro, fenix and infernal but not Ret, white-ra (two clear favorites in this stage) or nony and kolll (everyone wants to know how they will perform)?
I am disappoint.
You should read this:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=109716¤tpage=3#58
We had a long discussion about the pros and cons on staff irc and this is what we came up with, I think it's a very balanced list...
Also, every single subsequent match will be casted, so you'll get other chances
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For those that have work on Saturday will it be possible to download a VOD of the cast or is simply replay heaven as the backup plan?
In either case looking forward to this, thanks TSL
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
there will be VODs of course (on youtube/nevake and on the tracker)
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I love how these R3 matchups turned out ... very few mirrors (as was noted earlier) and every game is multi-national!!
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Super pumped for RO3 this weekend! Gonna be some nice matches.
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Really nice to read, going to be a exciting round again ;D
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noooo my birthday party is on saturday
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Will the casted games be live or just replays?
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
Always replays as stated numerous times. Live is simply not viable.
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I'm fine with that as long as the results are kept secret. But not once it happened for players to tell the result to their friends, and then more people will know the results. Anyone could get them if he really wants to. Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I heard.
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
I don't remember any results being spoiled early during TSL 1, the same goes for NonY vs IdrA.
The results of qualifier 1 and 2 for this TSL were posted on TL as soon as they happened, so this was different. Results of qualifier R3 (today) and all following TSL matches will be kept secret and not be revealed before the broadcast. Players are not allowed to talk about it etc.
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3 hours until it starts, rite?
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
yes
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so we wont see live in ro16 too? =(
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Calgary25974 Posts
On January 17 2010 03:05 Tigi wrote:
so we wont see live in ro16 too? =(
You won't ever see live. It's NOT POSSIBLE with the way Starcraft works. We've been over this many times and tried every available solution.
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I assume Morrow vs. Koll has replaced the other game by popular demand. What were you thinking lol? Mana and Castro will cheese each other like noobs, Morrow and Koll have real skill.
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
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the link for the stream will be provided only at 4:00 TL time?
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Awesome, I finally have time to watch some TSL matches live, whoo thanks teamliquid! :D
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Any minute now!! ... doh! ... 15 more minutes! I can't sit still ... too excited!!!
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wouldn't be tsl without 15 min delays.
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Damn, I have to go in like 10 minutes, where can I find the VODs afterwards without getting spoiled?
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On January 17 2010 04:13 Leviance wrote:
Damn, I have to go in like 10 minutes, where can I find the VODs afterwards without getting spoiled?
Youtube on nevake account
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On January 17 2010 04:13 Leviance wrote:
Damn, I have to go in like 10 minutes, where can I find the VODs afterwards without getting spoiled?
They will probably be unspoiled in a R3 Results thread.
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Umm, am I the only person that can't find the stream link?
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Nope, I'm in the same boat.
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wtf is the streamlink? Am I Blind?
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On January 17 2010 04:19 Jyvblamo wrote:
Umm, am I the only person that can't find the stream link?
nope
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lol I hope its not going on without anyone watching 
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On January 17 2010 04:02 m3rciless wrote:
wouldn't be tsl without 15 min delays.
Stream gods are watching...
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On January 17 2010 04:19 Jyvblamo wrote:
Umm, am I the only person that can't find the stream link?
Same here. The whole server keeps crashing for me actually, so many hits I guess.
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the suspense feels good man
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omg omg omg teamliquid dropped their database!!! :D go teamliquid, i believe in you, you can do it!
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Wish I would have known about the delay and I would have picked up some food. I'm starving QQ
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On January 17 2010 04:21 jyhlol wrote:
the suspense feels good man
its killing me ahhhhhhhh
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lol holy crap the site is so laggy now with around 2.5k people spamming refresh and running around going ??? trying to find the stream link
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Thanks to god I am not the only one who failed to find the streamlink
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stream will be delayed, calling it now 
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lol I just don't want to miss the beginning. F5 F5
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TL lagging like crazy right now. Too many people on this thread spamming F5!
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Where will the link show up? Will they edit this thread and put up a link to it?
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there will be some music and stuff at the beggining anyway.stop spamming f5 !
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I'm spamming f5 like everyone else! So excited to watch the games :D
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lol hwat if they go the whole cast forgetting to post a stream
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On January 17 2010 04:22 selboN wrote:
Wish I would have known about the delay and I would have picked up some food. I'm starving QQ
Just go now. You'll be out and back before the game starts. Probably when they're just getting started talking about the maps.
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crash crash and crash. i want finalssss
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
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i hope all of hot_bid's brain cells right now are concentrated on; getting the games/players/casters all synchronized, and giving us that damn stream link ^_^;;;;;
(i have no clue if he's actually doing that tho )
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The server seems to have a problem with the flood of users coming online. The stream should be delayed (well it already is) until they fix things!
We'll just have to wait for an official statement.
On a side note, they just bought me enough time to go run to the shop to get something to eat before the show starts! I just <3 TL delays so much! Thanks guys! :D
edit: nooooo the stream is up xD
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On January 17 2010 04:23 theqat wrote:stream will be delayed, calling it now
lol, a little late on your prediction
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c'mon, i'm at the work and want to 'kill'' last three hours but stream link isn't there yet, kme kme
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driving me crazy.. i guess it just taking some time
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Lol, database crash. Epic
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Ahhh good ol' TL.net's streamed events - always late and site always lagging because everyone F5's. This is the atmosphere i will always remember, it doesn't even make you stressed (though you want to watch it VERY badly )
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Delay?
Even better im gonna enjoy alot more the games :D
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common organizers.............its not the first time a hyped live game followed by a rush is going down.
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1) wake up early - check!
2) finish weekend chores early - check!
3) order pizza - check!
4) pay delivery man - check!
5) find stream on tl.net - doh!
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Stream doesn't work with Windows 7... talk about bullshit T.T "Install plugin..." "Could not install plugin..." sigh...
Ahh nevermind I can play it in an external player.... goood.
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On January 17 2010 04:27 ezk wrote:
STREAM IS LIVE!!
WHERE IS IT!?!?!? LINK !"5365
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On January 17 2010 04:29 Chef wrote:
Stream doesn't work with Windows 7... talk about bullshit T.T "Install plugin..." "Could not install plugin..." sigh...
hopefully someone does a mirror like with the idra vs nony games, hit hit
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Can't someone re-stream it please? The quality is too high for my connection
pretty please
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On January 17 2010 04:29 Chef wrote:
Stream doesn't work with Windows 7... talk about bullshit T.T "Install plugin..." "Could not install plugin..." sigh...
??? Im running W7 and it just says 'Waiting for Video'? Is anyones stream running?
edit: nvm. Direct link works.
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it works fine with my windows 7
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trying to use mms:// with mplayer and it fails each time
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On January 17 2010 04:29 Chef wrote:
Stream doesn't work with Windows 7... talk about bullshit T.T "Install plugin..." "Could not install plugin..." sigh...
I have Windows 7 and am experiencing no problems. I'm using the Google Chrome browser, and it appears to be running in Windows Media Player within the browser. Maybe make sure Windows Media player is set as the default to open video files?
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can't watch... i have great connection at work but zero points
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now is not the time for my VLC to need updating
gawd dammit
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mms stream with vlc works perfectly
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On January 17 2010 04:32 theqat wrote:trying to use mms:// with mplayer and it fails each time
If you have VLC or GOM player use that, it works perfectly.
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Canada5565 Posts
the microphone is so scratchy!
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A bit further from the microphone please ;o
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Try using 'mplayer 'http://hatchery.teamliquid.net 000/'.
That redirects me to mms://ursadon.teamliquid.net:10000, so you might try that too.
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On January 17 2010 04:31 ondik wrote:Can't someone re-stream it please? The quality is too high for my connection pretty please
Yea I'm sure someone will do it just like for the Idra Nony match.
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uh voice quality is horrible for me.
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mics are making the voices shatter, can they be fixed ?
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windows 7 works just fine here.
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my ears :<, really bad quality audio sadly
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Someone IM artosis and tell him to back off of the mic -.-
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the sound quality is quite bad for me also
hope they can fix it
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ugh this microphone hurts my ears :-\
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The precise problem with the audio is that the gain is too high.
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Turn down the volume on the microphones a bit because the sound is distorded. It's really annoying.
Edit: can someone call them or sth?
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Sound levels are too high, cant hear what they are saying.
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Could someone re-stream in lower quality? My connection cannot handle this stream apparently even though it was fine for Idra vs Nony
Edit: typos
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On January 17 2010 04:31 ondik wrote:Can't someone re-stream it please? The quality is too high for my connection pretty please
Unfortunately I'm having the same problem
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Could you please have artosis and tasteless turn the mic volume down so that it doesn't screw the sound up?
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JIJIyO
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Tasteless says Mondragon funny :3
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for me everything is perfect...
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Anyone up for a restream? pretty laggy here
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On January 17 2010 04:38 ejac wrote:
5+16+24=59?
TSL math historically has not been the best.
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On January 17 2010 04:38 ejac wrote:
5+16+24=59?
4+16+42=58?
lol yeah was about to say
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Morrow is going to 2-0
thats what I predict anyway
oh its bo5? 3-0 then
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i kind of wish that Morrow will win...let sgo
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GUYS, please, any restream availiable???
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Excellent video quality btw.
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On January 17 2010 04:44 BMSL wrote:
GUYS, please, any restream availiable???
For now no, but someone will probably do it soon.
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I have black screeen i windows media player, and permanent buffering as well((
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Game sound (but not music) should come up, Artosis' mic gain is still too high
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No that is the same... the bitrate is too high for a lot of people.
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I'd sell my sister for LQ stream
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On January 17 2010 04:48 infinity2k9 wrote:No that is the same... the bitrate is too high for a lot of people.
If my internet can get it, anyone can use it....
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What is your connection speed then?
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On January 17 2010 04:49 ejac wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 04:48 infinity2k9 wrote:No that is the same... the bitrate is too high for a lot of people. If my internet can get it, anyone can use it....
Okay, I must be imaging the still frames.
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MorroW PvZ 16-16 man I didn't know his P was so good! =D
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excellent play by morrow, losing those 2-3 mutas in open kinda hurt :<
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fucking sick timing by morrow!! textbook play. loved it
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On January 17 2010 04:49 ejac wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 04:48 infinity2k9 wrote:No that is the same... the bitrate is too high for a lot of people. If my internet can get it, anyone can use it....
its routing issue not speed so your comment is pointless
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Mmm damn kolll lost first game. Want kolll to win this so much :p Not a fan of Morrow's attitude at all
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Had to use GOM but its perfect now
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On January 17 2010 04:54 infinity2k9 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 04:49 ejac wrote:On January 17 2010 04:48 infinity2k9 wrote:No that is the same... the bitrate is too high for a lot of people. If my internet can get it, anyone can use it.... its routing issue not speed so your comment is pointless
I'm happy to restream it if a mod says its ok.
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On January 17 2010 04:54 infinity2k9 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 04:49 ejac wrote:On January 17 2010 04:48 infinity2k9 wrote:No that is the same... the bitrate is too high for a lot of people. If my internet can get it, anyone can use it.... its routing issue not speed so your comment is pointless
Right, my connection is like 25% loaded. I am so infuriated!!
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this is awesome, and the commentary is really amazing
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On January 17 2010 04:56 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 04:54 infinity2k9 wrote:On January 17 2010 04:49 ejac wrote:On January 17 2010 04:48 infinity2k9 wrote:No that is the same... the bitrate is too high for a lot of people. If my internet can get it, anyone can use it.... its routing issue not speed so your comment is pointless I'm happy to restream it if a mod says its ok.
PLEASE
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On January 17 2010 04:56 FlamyDeath wrote:Had to use GOM but its perfect now
Oh, thanks. good idea.
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On January 17 2010 04:56 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 04:54 infinity2k9 wrote:On January 17 2010 04:49 ejac wrote:On January 17 2010 04:48 infinity2k9 wrote:No that is the same... the bitrate is too high for a lot of people. If my internet can get it, anyone can use it.... its routing issue not speed so your comment is pointless I'm happy to restream it if a mod says its ok.
Please do. Be my hero!
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JIJIyO
Canada1957 Posts
Tricky overlord by Koll haha.
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On January 17 2010 04:56 deconduo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 04:54 infinity2k9 wrote:On January 17 2010 04:49 ejac wrote:On January 17 2010 04:48 infinity2k9 wrote:No that is the same... the bitrate is too high for a lot of people. If my internet can get it, anyone can use it.... its routing issue not speed so your comment is pointless I'm happy to restream it if a mod says its ok.
People did it last time so should be ok.
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Yeah please do, this is unwatchable for me
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I though morrow was great at cheese; surprised that he forgot the repair the bunker.
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
epic fail by morrow
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On January 17 2010 05:01 datscilly wrote:
I though morrow was great at cheese; surprised that he forgot the repair the bunker.
Pulled too few SCVs as well and too late, too... that was kind of sloppy =S
Disappointing games so far.
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
i think destination will be the map for morrow
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you're my hero! i'll buy you guinness and kilkenny and i'll kill thierry henry and michel platini for you, i'll do everything!
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Well, even with 4 scvs repairing, 2 sunkens + 6 lings was going to take down that bunker.
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Yeah, timing was a bit off.
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On January 17 2010 05:06 Jyvblamo wrote:
Well, even with 4 scvs repairing, 2 sunkens + 6 lings was going to take down that bunker.
Yeah, I think that the rush was too late altogether, it should hit so that the SCVs can focus the first sunken in time for it to not complete with a lot of hp.
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what is wrong with this streams? we are seing half the games?
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Sick muta micro! Kolll is amazing!
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4 gas zerg vs 2 gas terran, with no vessels at 11.30 - this is over!
Kolll HWAITING!
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5h base Kolll GOGOGOGO!
EDIT: Not needed, but sick sick play from Kolll. That kid will go far!
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OMG this was beautiful game to watch, there wasn't really that much running anywhere and multitasking and Boxering but you could see what is beautiful in StarCraft's strategy/tactics play!
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WOw, i am very suprised about kolls level of play. People like him show us thast korean are not untouchable =).
I am looking forward what koll will achieve in sc2 =).
Beatuful Play!
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JIJIyO
Canada1957 Posts
How about Slayers boxing style? ^_^ Hehe
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Morrow's gonna have to go for a flying armbar.
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Oh god.
Morrow so sure that Kolll 12 hatched, that he only scouted the nat.
Kolll. You got this!
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JIJIyO
Canada1957 Posts
Morrow missed it........why do players scout like that? Go all the way lol.
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
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its very choppy for me right now Am I the only one?
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On January 17 2010 05:27 FlamyDeath wrote:its very choppy for me right now Am I the only one?
yes
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On January 17 2010 05:27 FlamyDeath wrote:its very choppy for me right now Am I the only one?
Flawless here. Probably a lot of people watching, so it might be choppy for some.
Using VLCPlayer btw - it's tha best!
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u can use GOM player ass well
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interesting! i think morrow have a change now, no lurker contain at all!
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That was one awesome move by Kolll!
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he should put tank on ledge maybe
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3 gas ultras, this barely ever works (unless crazy-zerg)
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well i told u morrow have a good change of winning this one^^
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The most even game so far. I think koll will win, as morrow is not in position to threaten koll's four gases.
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Dominican Republic825 Posts
we gonna have R3 Replays?
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I'm sure others have noticed this by now, but the bottom-right supply meter is completely inaccurate for Kolll
Edit: probably for morrow too
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On January 17 2010 05:43 theqat wrote:
I'm sure others have noticed this by now, but the bottom-right supply meter is completely inaccurate for Kolll
i think like that too
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Might be the difference between the supply count and the units that have effectively hatched.
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GG.
Deserved, such nice play from Kolll.
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Morrow had 12942395010 raxes when he was poor, but only 5 when he was rich =( Pretty good series, wish it was longer. GGs.
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Again, Morrow PvZ: 16-16 :o
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On January 17 2010 05:44 Re-Play- wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 05:43 theqat wrote:
I'm sure others have noticed this by now, but the bottom-right supply meter is completely inaccurate for Kolll i think like that too
When its green its minerals/gas per minute.
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nicely doneeeee morrowns downnnnnnnn
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On January 17 2010 05:43 theqat wrote:
I'm sure others have noticed this by now, but the bottom-right supply meter is completely inaccurate for Kolll
Edit: probably for morrow too
The supply counter never works properly for Z because it doesn't count hatching units. Afaik T and P ones do count units in training... Or at least some of them.
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 shame
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That was some really classy play by kolll from game 2 on. What a sick kid.
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GoslTerran VS Infernal will be Epic!
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Ladder #2 not making the top16, kinda sad. Though I'm happy to see Koll advance, I want to see him kill Idra (not with today's play though, but with what he usually puts up against him)
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morrow didnt play so well starting from game 2 kinda sloppy
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1st (hopefully) of 6 German who advances! gogogo
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if u sleeps at day to train vs korean at knight u are a lazy person and dont work or even study
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On January 17 2010 05:49 538 wrote:Ladder #2 not making the top16, kinda sad. Though I'm happy to see Koll advance, I want to see him kill Idra (not with today's play though, but with what he usually puts up against him)
i think he did bad choises of Strategies
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On January 17 2010 05:56 Re-Play- wrote:
if u sleeps at day to train vs korean at knight u are a lazy person and dont work or even study
wat
or maybe you just dont know how fucking much dedication it takes to become a progamer, its not something a "lazy" person can do. ,_,
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if u dodges on iccup and abuse wins u are a lazy person and dont work or even study
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On January 17 2010 05:56 Re-Play- wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 05:49 538 wrote:Ladder #2 not making the top16, kinda sad. Though I'm happy to see Koll advance, I want to see him kill Idra (not with today's play though, but with what he usually puts up against him) i think he did bad choises of Strategies
+ Show Spoiler +At least you can say morrow has guts to play flashstyle terran in the most important foreign tournament. you have to give some credit to that
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11 gate? How does that benefit a P?
NVM: based on scouting, my bad.
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GosI[Terran] goes for one rax expand, which was recently more popular among progamers.
Is GosI[Terran] in the same clan as GosI[Flying] was? That would make his name Terran.
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6 facs are scouted by infernal: Gateway madness commence!
I thought a 110 push or so counters 2 base arbs pretty hard, since arbs are not done in time.. Go Infernal, pull a miracle!
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Holy shit.
Sick, sick goon move.
GO TOSS!
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Mines swing the game back and forth as they hit protoss and terran units.
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The amateur's Bisu v. Turn.
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great game thought toss gonna lose with that push
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Infernal saved his ass by moving those goons down...wow nice
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On January 17 2010 06:15 Avidkeystamper wrote:
The amateur's Bisu v. Turn.
haha so true
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On January 17 2010 06:14 Groovyschlumpf wrote:
thats definately A-Game!
Thats not even close to iNfeRnaL's A-Game. You have no clue. Nonetheless that goon move was genius and even Artosis and Tasteless didn't get why. First it was to get time and secondly it was to cut the VULTURE reinforcements that were so important. Terran couldn't send vultures to support his tanks and he lost his timing push/all tanks to massive amounts of speedlots because of that.
I shaked the whole game just because I know iNfeRnaL was training so hard, with all possible terrans, with me, I warmped up with him and he went through all his builds like a million times. I'm happy he won the first game, so he's a bit more confident now, I hope he playes his A game now. Could be a 3-0 then.
Sidenote: iNfeRnaL is ~90 - 95% win vs GosI[TerraN] in practice.
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When you mentioned the whole thing about Tossgirl and the Marine with the screen names always having basic tier 1 units... i must disagree. Incontrol had his screen name listed as
ToT)Ultralisk( on the tot site a while back.
Ultralisk a very high tech, tier 3, "invincible" unit
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On January 17 2010 06:26 KsBerzerk wrote:
When you mentioned the whole thing about Tossgirl and the Marine with the screen names always having basic tier 1 units... i must disagree. Incontrol had his screen name listed as
ToT)Ultralisk( on the tot site a while back.
Ultralisk a very high tech, tier 3, "invincible" unit
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I think Terran needs to win Destination, because there's no way he'll win on Andromeda.
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Terran vs infernal is it even? i cant watch :|
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That was a very nice game by terran, awesome series so far.
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On January 17 2010 06:34 G.s)NarutO wrote:
I think Terran needs to win Destination, because there's no way he'll win on Andromeda.
Destination just favors toss quite a bit. So many viable builds - fast carrier, fast arb, standard play, fast reaver, 12 nex etc - while T's just usally go for the flash variant or some cheese involving the area behind the nat. Infernal should really take this: he's better and the map is made for tosses.
EDIT: And yes, GG, nice play from GosI. That failed reaver really hurt Infernal.
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I hope iNfeRnaL will switch to carrier when arbiters don't work out, because he's insanely good with carriers o.o!!
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2 base arbiter again
Edit: It feels kind of strange if you practiced with the player and know exactly what he's going to do, how he's going to react to certain stuff etc, amazing :D
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What were results koll vs morrow?
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On January 17 2010 06:42 APurpleCow wrote:
What are results so far?
+ Show Spoiler +
MorroW > Kolll @ Fighting Spirit
MorroW < Kolll @ Outsider
MorroW < Kolll @ Destination
MorroW < Kolll @ Andromeda
iNfeRnaL > Terran @ Fighting Spirit
iNfeRnaL < Terran @ Outsider
I don't think Terran can win if iNfeRnaL is on 4+ Arbiter o.o
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"Never pet a burning dog."
lol
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fleet beacon fuck yeah!!!
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FUCK YEAH! Like I thought, switch to carrier. He knows arbiters won't work!
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On January 17 2010 06:41 G.s)NarutO wrote:2 base arbiter again Edit: It feels kind of strange if you practiced with the player and know exactly what he's going to do, how he's going to react to certain stuff etc, amazing :D
And he's going carriers. Hats off to you, good sir!
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My heart is beating, so much adrenalin and I dont even play. GO PAT!!!
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Tasteless said the map is not good for carriers "you cant do that" a few minutes ago and now Artosis is saying that its great strategy go carriers here. ;O
edit: maybe the situations were just so different.
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On January 17 2010 06:49 Hans-Titan wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 06:41 G.s)NarutO wrote:2 base arbiter again Edit: It feels kind of strange if you practiced with the player and know exactly what he's going to do, how he's going to react to certain stuff etc, amazing :D And he's going carriers. Hats off to you, good sir!
Not hard to predict, he's my best ally online, the player I play the most and practice the most with.. so o.o;; I know all the builds he planned out, know his style etc.
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On January 17 2010 06:50 Puosu wrote:
Tasteless said the map is not good for carriers "you cant do that" a few minutes ago and now Artosis is saying that its great strategy go carriers here. ;O
edit: maybe the situations were just so different.
lol. Desti is awesome for carriers, so many cliffs and the bridges screw up goliaths. Probably a slipup from Tasteless.
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Best carrier micro since SuKeR[pG] coming soon I hope-_-
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The TL observer is doing a great job today.
Yeah, hats off to Naruto.
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OH SHIT!
Infernal gonna clean this up.
EDIT: Looked like the statis got more than it actually did. Come on, toss hwaiting!
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I must say this observer is EXCELLENT. He knows where to go and when. Perhaps he watched the replay before hand and has a bunch of notes of significant things at certain times? Man TSL is so professional =]
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Artosis announcing that gosl[terran] is looking "mighty good." Interceptor count is too low for Infernal as he says that.
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PAT CANCEL 3 CARRIERS ... MAN YOU HAVE 10 ALREADY
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GosI looks pretty good, but that carrier fleet is scary.
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Go on infernal
Abuse the ledges, the goliaths cant do shit behind the nats!
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I don't think he can touch iNfeRnaL with so much carriers, he made so much comebacks against SO many terrans I know. He just had a 40 minute game against strelok on destination and won it.
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On January 17 2010 07:00 G.s)NarutO wrote:
I don't think he can touch iNfeRnaL with so much carriers, he made so much comebacks against SO many terrans I know. He just had a 40 minute game against strelok on destination and won it.
He needs a min only though, to keep pumping interceptors. He's running out quickly.
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Game goes down to the wire.. as goliath count goes down interceptor count goes down to make it close.
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iNfeRnaL is so much better than that guy but chokes again in a tourney... Andro will make it 2-2. I hope he wins Tornado-_-
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Gosl got this.
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Sick sick play by infernal and GosI alike: good carriers, but amazing job by GosI by preventing recalls.
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whos winning? terran or infernal? i cant watch the stream ( ubuntu user ) :|
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crazy good game, come on infernal take the remaining 2!
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This series has been so much better than the first one.
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On January 17 2010 07:03 uNiGNoRe wrote:Gosl got this.
Nope. If Infernal gets his nerves together, he's got this. No question that infernal is the better player.
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Insane game wow 2-1 for gosI.
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JIJIyO
Canada1957 Posts
Lies Tasteless you dropped the fbomb in Gom too =D
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Great game. Loved the carrier micro ^^ wanted infernal to win that one just for the beautiful carriers
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I want Infernal to advance badly
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That game was fucking epic! Foreign SC FTW!
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2-1
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On January 17 2010 07:03 G.s)NarutO wrote:
iNfeRnaL is so much better than that guy but chokes again in a tourney... Andro will make it 2-2. I hope he wins Tornado-_-
no he is not... they are pretty even
beautiful games, absolutely top level
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The "better player" is the one who wins the game .
In the previous game, Gosl was better than Infernal.
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COME ON INFERNAL! DO THIS, SMASH THIS TERRAN SCUM!
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On January 17 2010 07:06 PredY wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 07:03 G.s)NarutO wrote:
iNfeRnaL is so much better than that guy but chokes again in a tourney... Andro will make it 2-2. I hope he wins Tornado-_- no he is not... they are pretty even beautiful games, absolutely top level
HAHAHAHAH! Thats a good joke, how are they pretty even? iNfeRnaL is 90-95% win vs GosI[Terran] in practice. Like 20-3 in the last games? How is that even... Its just because its a tournament-_-
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On January 17 2010 07:06 PredY wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 07:03 G.s)NarutO wrote:
iNfeRnaL is so much better than that guy but chokes again in a tourney... Andro will make it 2-2. I hope he wins Tornado-_- no he is not... they are pretty even beautiful games, absolutely top level
uh
you know Naruto is Infernal's practice partner, I'm pretty sure he has far more information about how these players compare than a random TLer.
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On January 17 2010 07:07 G.s)NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 07:06 PredY wrote:On January 17 2010 07:03 G.s)NarutO wrote:
iNfeRnaL is so much better than that guy but chokes again in a tourney... Andro will make it 2-2. I hope he wins Tornado-_- no he is not... they are pretty even beautiful games, absolutely top level HAHAHAHAH! Thats a good joke, how are they pretty even? iNfeRnaL is 90-95% win vs GosI[Terran] in practice. Like 20-3 in the last games? How is that even... Its just because its a tournament-_-
and that's what matters the most you know. performing on the big stage
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On January 17 2010 07:07 G.s)NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 07:06 PredY wrote:On January 17 2010 07:03 G.s)NarutO wrote:
iNfeRnaL is so much better than that guy but chokes again in a tourney... Andro will make it 2-2. I hope he wins Tornado-_- no he is not... they are pretty even beautiful games, absolutely top level HAHAHAHAH! Thats a good joke, how are they pretty even? iNfeRnaL is 90-95% win vs GosI[Terran] in practice. Like 20-3 in the last games? How is that even... Its just because its a tournament-_-
Handling high pressure situations is a very vital part of SC.
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On January 17 2010 07:08 PredY wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 07:07 G.s)NarutO wrote:On January 17 2010 07:06 PredY wrote:On January 17 2010 07:03 G.s)NarutO wrote:
iNfeRnaL is so much better than that guy but chokes again in a tourney... Andro will make it 2-2. I hope he wins Tornado-_- no he is not... they are pretty even beautiful games, absolutely top level HAHAHAHAH! Thats a good joke, how are they pretty even? iNfeRnaL is 90-95% win vs GosI[Terran] in practice. Like 20-3 in the last games? How is that even... Its just because its a tournament-_- and that's what matters the most you know. performing on the big stage
Doesn't make my statement wrong. iNfeRnaL is superior.
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On January 17 2010 07:08 PredY wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 07:07 G.s)NarutO wrote:On January 17 2010 07:06 PredY wrote:On January 17 2010 07:03 G.s)NarutO wrote:
iNfeRnaL is so much better than that guy but chokes again in a tourney... Andro will make it 2-2. I hope he wins Tornado-_- no he is not... they are pretty even beautiful games, absolutely top level HAHAHAHAH! Thats a good joke, how are they pretty even? iNfeRnaL is 90-95% win vs GosI[Terran] in practice. Like 20-3 in the last games? How is that even... Its just because its a tournament-_- and that's what matters the most you know. performing on the big stage
thats pretty much what he said exactly, he is a better player but choked..
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In the words of Idra, Infernal "decides to take a freewin" with 12 nexus xD
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On January 17 2010 07:06 PredY wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 07:03 G.s)NarutO wrote:
iNfeRnaL is so much better than that guy but chokes again in a tourney... Andro will make it 2-2. I hope he wins Tornado-_- no he is not... they are pretty even beautiful games, absolutely top level
mTw|NarutO
mTw|Infernal
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On January 17 2010 07:03 G.s)NarutO wrote:
iNfeRnaL is so much better than that guy but chokes again in a tourney... Andro will make it 2-2. I hope he wins Tornado-_-
how did he choke in that game? it seems like the game went like he planned but it just didnt work.
1) EMP was ready for arbiter
2) gosi[terran] left no opening for an effective use of the all ground army of infernal
3) gosi[terran] had an effective counterattack while carriers powered up
imo infernal was playing safe and waiting for gosi[terran] to make a big mistake, but no big mistake ever happened. if protoss plays like infernal just did on destination, or most any 2 player map, then a solid terran player has the advantage
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god 2-1 for terran? i wish i could watch that stream :| !
keep updating! is it the last game now???!!!1
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On January 17 2010 07:09 Puosu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 07:08 PredY wrote:On January 17 2010 07:07 G.s)NarutO wrote:On January 17 2010 07:06 PredY wrote:On January 17 2010 07:03 G.s)NarutO wrote:
iNfeRnaL is so much better than that guy but chokes again in a tourney... Andro will make it 2-2. I hope he wins Tornado-_- no he is not... they are pretty even beautiful games, absolutely top level HAHAHAHAH! Thats a good joke, how are they pretty even? iNfeRnaL is 90-95% win vs GosI[Terran] in practice. Like 20-3 in the last games? How is that even... Its just because its a tournament-_- and that's what matters the most you know. performing on the big stage thats pretty much what he said exactly, he is a better player but choked..
others are saying, quite legitimately, that you really aren't the "better player" if you can't perform on the big stage
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Naruto please stop pretending practice matters. You are not superior by winning practice you are superior by winning the games that matter.
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On January 17 2010 07:09 G.s)NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 07:08 PredY wrote:On January 17 2010 07:07 G.s)NarutO wrote:On January 17 2010 07:06 PredY wrote:On January 17 2010 07:03 G.s)NarutO wrote:
iNfeRnaL is so much better than that guy but chokes again in a tourney... Andro will make it 2-2. I hope he wins Tornado-_- no he is not... they are pretty even beautiful games, absolutely top level HAHAHAHAH! Thats a good joke, how are they pretty even? iNfeRnaL is 90-95% win vs GosI[Terran] in practice. Like 20-3 in the last games? How is that even... Its just because its a tournament-_- and that's what matters the most you know. performing on the big stage Doesn't make my statement wrong. iNfeRnaL is superior.
i dont wanna argue man. but if you dont perform in tournaments then you are not big player
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Andro game, 2-1 for GosI.
INfernal, P, at 11
GosI, T, at 5
P scouts cross, does 12 nex at min only. T does supply, rax, no gas into CC and gas nat. No action yet and P reacting by taking gas only and doing faster tech. Not really cutting probes, gonna have sick econ if 3rd allowed online without interruption.
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On January 17 2010 07:10 Liquid`NonY wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 07:03 G.s)NarutO wrote:
iNfeRnaL is so much better than that guy but chokes again in a tourney... Andro will make it 2-2. I hope he wins Tornado-_- how did he choke in that game? it seems like the game went like he planned but it just didnt work. 1) EMP was ready for arbiter 2) gosi[terran] left no opening for an effective use of the all ground army of infernal 3) gosi[terran] had an effective counterattack while carriers powered up imo infernal was playing safe and waiting for gosi[terran] to make a big mistake, but no big mistake ever happened. if protoss plays like infernal just did on destination, or most any 2 player map, then a solid terran player has the advantage
Since I really respect you and you are really a good protoss I'll reply. I think he shouldn't burn so much units when switching to carriers, he did 6 port - carrier, that was overkill. Also he didn't have quiet enough high templars to make up for his ground army disadvantage.
Usually iNfeRnaL is a bit more concentrated on balancing his army unit wise. He knew if he burns so many units and builds 6 carriers at once, he can't match terrans ground army and did it anyway. Thats where he choked in my opinion. Trust me I know iNfeRnaL's A-Game and saw him playing In_Dove, Sea[Shield] and many other progamers, his A-Game is scary and thats not even close to his A-Game. Even in that Fighting Spirit game were he won and showed a few really good moves, it wasn't close to his A-Game and he will be really angry even if he wins 3-2. He went 10-4 or 11-4 vs Strelok yesterday and was so angry he lost 4 games.
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<in unison>OH MY GAWWWWD</in unison>
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4 rax incoming for GosI. Gonna see an mnm tank rush if I know my TvP builds.
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JIJIyO
Canada1957 Posts
OHHHHHH MYYYYYYYY GODDDDDDDD in unison.
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On January 17 2010 07:12 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Naruto please stop pretending practice matters. You are not superior by winning practice you are superior by winning the games that matter.
Thats simply wrong Nazgul, but I won't argue with you since you just will ban me. You are superior if you are the better player, 1 series doesn't matter. Check his WCG results.. he lost to so many players that are a lot worse etc.
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Arb tech incoming for infernal, which gets countered quite hard by mnm tank, since you don't have energy for stasis. Unless he gets DTs and manages to burn all of GosIs scanner energy.
P 30 supply ahead and adding more gates though.
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has infernal seen the marines and medics?
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On January 17 2010 07:16 PredY wrote:
has infernal seen the marines and medics?
Now yes, he will try to get time and then hopefully rape.
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Artosis calling it a build order win. I say that if Infernal gets enough speedzeals the rush CAN be countered with good goon micro.
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On January 17 2010 07:14 G.s)NarutO wrote:
Thats simply wrong Nazgul, but I won't argue with you since you just will ban me. You are superior if you are the better player, 1 series doesn't matter. Check his WCG results.. he lost to so many players that are a lot worse etc.
Winning 1 series doesn't mean you're better at all that's not what I try to say, but practice doesn't matter one bit.
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Infernal's observer died. The anticipation from gosl[terran]'s coming mnm attack is high.
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Deserved win, but still the worse player won.
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GosI rolling over Infernal...
Who's the "better player", again?
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ffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!
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this is just sad.
the only entertaining play by gositerran in this series wins him the whole thing
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So he decides to counter then stops at the middle and goes back
meh still had food left for 5th game
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GG
GosI[Terran] 3 - 1 Infernal
FUCK
SHIT
FUCK
DAMN IT.
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Sick games today. Really fun watching.
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Gosl you got yourself a fan, sick push!
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Fuck this shit-_- I bet even JianFei (who doesn't choke in tourneys) but has inferior PvT will win easily vs Terran-_-;;
Oh well, ggs.
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terran won 3-!? :o
well i knew juan is good like rly good
infernal too, thats why i wanted to see this match
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wow i was rooting for infernal but gositerran was a baller, that was one of the sexiest plays i've seen in this tournament so far
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Fuck yeah, I love MnM strats vs Toss. Awesome game!
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should have countered T's main and made pure DT imo
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yea i thought he was gonna counter .... but he comes back prob going in terran base and sniping scans could be good but as always infernal failing in imporant games
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Good play by GosI. Props for doing good builds when needed, but would've loved to see infernal go through. I like his style.
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On January 17 2010 07:20 Holgerius wrote:
Fuck yeah, I love MnM strats vs Toss. Awesome game!
+1
All four games were great.
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On January 17 2010 07:20 DanteStyle wrote:
naruto such a crybaby :/
Shut up.
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i was rooting for Infernal so much and he played really good. I must say Gosi[Terran] really surprised me, played very well
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On January 17 2010 07:20 DanteStyle wrote:
naruto such a crybaby :/
Ye right, if you know how passionate a player is and how much he puts into it, who the better player is and then he loses in such a fashion. Remember I'm his teammate and also tried to help as much as I can so I'm frustrated myself, not even mentioning how Pat feels now.
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Infernal T-T
He said tune into the recordings but where will they be? youtube?
and gogo mondragon!
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GosI is going to get far in this tournament, no doubt...
i predicted this actually :|
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kolll just read me like a book through the entire series
first game was the only game where i really played straight up and i won
he was smarter gamer in this series thats for sure, i wish him the best of luck in tsl. good friend and awesome gamer!
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this was WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GG!!!!
+ Show Spoiler +somebody give me DL link for this SC song, it's LOL!!! fgreat :D
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gj to terran putting infernal in his place (maybe naruto more), I usually cheer for protoss but I had a feeling that [terran] could do it
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On January 17 2010 07:22 NiGoL wrote:
GosI is going to get far in this tournament, no doubt...
i predicted this actually :|
NiGoL check how iNfeRnaL loses in lots of tournaments to superior players who gets knocked out the round after. JianFei is probably Terrans next opponent. JF is really good PvT but not as good as iNfeRnaL if you ask me, but I'm sure he will win.
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Omg i wanna see that last game again. o.0
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On January 17 2010 07:22 MorroW wrote:
kolll just read me like a book through the entire series
first game was the only game where i really played straight up and i won
he was smarter gamer in this series thats for sure, i wish him the best of luck in tsl. good friend and awesome gamer!
Thanks for producing good games. As Tasteless and Artosis said, you did your homework and produced entertaining games. Kolll was just a notch smarter as you said.
And thumbs up for the awesome attiude, I wish more high level games could embrace that.
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iNfeRnaL
Germany1908 Posts
Honestly, this was soooooooooooooo fucking well played by Gosi Terran.
I've been raping Terrans left and right in practice and Juan just played soooooo much better today than all of them did.
He clearly was the better player today, I did not choke or anything, I did 2 decision making mistakes in the last two games and that's what did cost me the games.
I do think the games were very entertaining and I want to thank everybody for cheering on me / following me in the TSL2.
It was a pleasure for me to be a part of this sweet tournament and I sure do hope there will be a TSL3.
@Silv: We both know I'm good at practice but I told you often enough that I know its not practice that matters the most.
He's definitely the better player because he's showing better results than I am.
How can you even doubt that, he was 2nd in ASL and is now in the Ro16 of TSL while I am not.
All that is left for me to say at this point is - good luck to everybody in the Ro16, congratulations to Juan and GREAT WORK to all the admins, TSL is simply the best tournament ever.
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Damnit I'm not sure I've ever been so sad about a player losing
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So Awesome. Great matches. Thanks for the casts Tasteless / Artosis.. and TL. Had a big crowd crowded around our TV all day so into it.
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Oh well at least we now know artosis wasnt full of shit ^^
definitely very very strong play by terran
On January 17 2010 07:24 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Honestly, this was soooooooooooooo fucking well played by Gosi Terran.
I've been raping Terrans left and right in practice and Juan just played soooooo much better today than all of them did.
He clearly was the better player today, I did not choke or anything, I did 2 decision making mistakes in the last two games and that's what did cost me the games.
I do think the games were very entertaining and I want to thank everybody for cheering on me / following me in the TSL2.
It was a pleasure for me to be a part of this sweet tournament and I sure do hope there will be a TSL3.
@Silv: We both know I'm good at practice but I told you often enough that I know its not practice that matters the most.
He's definitely the better player because he's showing better results than I am.
How can you even doubt that, he was 2nd in ASL and is now in the Ro16 of TSL while I am not.
All that is left for me to say at this point is - good luck to everybody in the Ro16, congratulations to Juan and GREAT WORK to all the admins, TSL is simply the best tournament ever.
this lightens up my mood a bit
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On January 17 2010 07:24 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Honestly, this was soooooooooooooo fucking well played by Gosi Terran.
I've been raping Terrans left and right in practice and Juan just played soooooo much better today than all of them did.
He clearly was the better player today, I did not choke or anything, I did 2 decision making mistakes in the last two games and that's what did cost me the games.
I do think the games were very entertaining and I want to thank everybody for cheering on me / following me in the TSL2.
It was a pleasure for me to be a part of this sweet tournament and I sure do hope there will be a TSL3.
@Silv: We both know I'm good at practice but I told you often enough that I know its not practice that matters the most.
He's definitely the better player because he's showing better results than I am.
How can you even doubt that, he was 2nd in ASL and is now in the Ro16 of TSL while I am not.
All that is left for me to say at this point is - good luck to everybody in the Ro16, congratulations to Juan and GREAT WORK to all the admins, TSL is simply the best tournament ever.
As much as I like you, you are talking bullshit Pat and you know it. So I don't care if you want to throw away all we talked about, go on and lose me as ally and friend.
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well its good to see good sportsmanship from both losing players in here, pretty nice after all the drama we've had
gg all
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Shit, I wanted Infernal to win. But I didn't expect Terran to play so well. GGs
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Don't know why Naruto is making a whole bunch of drama out of this...?
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Hard luck infernal, and hopefully you'll go far in future competitions. You gave us amazingly entertaining games.
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Nice infernal i like your atitude but i still think you are the better player just not today... You had few mistakes and gosi played good sc using good bo's which is so rare in nonkorean sc.
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On January 17 2010 07:23 G.s)NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 07:22 NiGoL wrote:
GosI is going to get far in this tournament, no doubt...
i predicted this actually :| NiGoL check how iNfeRnaL loses in lots of tournaments to superior players who gets knocked out the round after. JianFei is probably Terrans next opponent. JF is really good PvT but not as good as iNfeRnaL if you ask me, but I'm sure he will win.
I think infernal could have been nervous, iknow hes very good. But juan is good too thats why i knew this match would be cool to see.
Well Jianfei is really good too, i think anything can happen mate. We´ll just see.
But i think some good games can be played in that serie too tho.
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On January 17 2010 07:28 Jyvblamo wrote:
Don't know why Naruto is making a whole bunch of drama out of this...?
iNfeRnaL practices his ass off, went like 80% win vs Strelok, 90% vs HoRRoR, 90% vs me, and vs any other terran... he puts so much passion and time into it and than chokes, I'm just frustrated as ally and friend of him.
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haha
wow infernal you did a good show and are a respectable loser
i hope you two meet again some time soon
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On January 17 2010 07:24 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Honestly, this was soooooooooooooo fucking well played by Gosi Terran.
I've been raping Terrans left and right in practice and Juan just played soooooo much better today than all of them did.
He clearly was the better player today, I did not choke or anything, I did 2 decision making mistakes in the last two games and that's what did cost me the games.
I do think the games were very entertaining and I want to thank everybody for cheering on me / following me in the TSL2.
It was a pleasure for me to be a part of this sweet tournament and I sure do hope there will be a TSL3.
@Silv: We both know I'm good at practice but I told you often enough that I know its not practice that matters the most.
He's definitely the better player because he's showing better results than I am.
How can you even doubt that, he was 2nd in ASL and is now in the Ro16 of TSL while I am not.
All that is left for me to say at this point is - good luck to everybody in the Ro16, congratulations to Juan and GREAT WORK to all the admins, TSL is simply the best tournament ever.
Great words spoken there mate! thanks for entertaining games man!
ggs!
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On January 17 2010 07:22 KsBerzerk wrote:
Infernal T-T
He said tune into the recordings but where will they be? youtube?
and gogo mondragon!
Yea all the broadcasted TSL games will be posted on the Nevake account on youtube.
Great games everyone, props to the winners! Also I must say the observer was really good this time, no complaints at all.
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Niceee try of Infernal killinng all Scanners off in Game 2. Just a sidenote but totally high level.
Infernal this was awesome. Keep on playing this way in tournaments and you will win one sooner or later!! =)
GGs for GosI. Sorry I cannot root for you from now on since you kicked my favorite German P :-p
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Sooo how did mana vs castro end
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
Infernal classy as always Really good games.
+ Show Spoiler +Naruto could take a page out of the classy book
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I never said Terran is bad or anything. He's good, he's greedy, he risks stuff with that no gas expansion etc. Thats because iNfeRnaL is not really agressive. Try that no gas expansion vs a 10/15 gate without scouting.
I know you have to risk something to win, but still... I don't like that stuff.
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On January 17 2010 07:32 Kennigit wrote:Infernal classy as always Really good games. + Show Spoiler +Naruto could take a page out of the classy book
I don't care, I'm raged-_- and sad, and you should understand that. I don't care if iNfeRnaL fakes everyone by acting all happy and stuff, he's sad too and I know it-_-
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On January 17 2010 07:32 Kennigit wrote:Infernal classy as always Really good games. + Show Spoiler +Naruto could take a page out of the classy book
^^ This. Great games today and an enjoyable cast for each game.
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embrace your little puppy, momsy
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On January 17 2010 07:33 G.s)NarutO wrote:
I never said Terran is bad or anything. He's good, he's greedy, he risks stuff with that no gas expansion etc. Thats because iNfeRnaL is not really agressive. Try that no gas expansion vs a 10/15 gate without scouting.
I know you have to risk something to win, but still... I don't like that stuff.
yeah you are really right there, juan is a risky player but he mostly gets a win out of it, which means he probably knows what hes doing. Infernal should have played maybe more agressively there but well? Its not easy to be what do u call it "after smart" we say that in sweden lol :|
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On January 17 2010 07:33 G.s)NarutO wrote:
I never said Terran is bad or anything. He's good, he's greedy, he risks stuff with that no gas expansion etc. Thats because iNfeRnaL is not really agressive. Try that no gas expansion vs a 10/15 gate without scouting.
I know you have to risk something to win, but still... I don't like that stuff.
thats called preparation as you said they practice with eachother so gosi just used superior bo's against infernal. Prob infernal could go for some fast dt or smth at least one game but thats all to the player style.
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On January 17 2010 07:35 NiGoL wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 07:33 G.s)NarutO wrote:
I never said Terran is bad or anything. He's good, he's greedy, he risks stuff with that no gas expansion etc. Thats because iNfeRnaL is not really agressive. Try that no gas expansion vs a 10/15 gate without scouting.
I know you have to risk something to win, but still... I don't like that stuff. yeah you are really right there, juan is a risky player but he mostly gets a win out of it, which means he probably knows what hes doing. Infernal should have played maybe more agressively there but well? Its not easy to be what do u call it "after smart" we say that in sweden lol :|
outsmarting someone?
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Infinite respect for that reaction Infernal. Truly words of class.
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On January 17 2010 07:37 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Infinite respect for that reaction Infernal. Truly words of class.
I don't want to be bad mannered or anything. I didn't say a bad word about Juan.. its just-_- the frustation.. seems like no one can understand :/
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On January 17 2010 07:39 G.s)NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 07:37 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Infinite respect for that reaction Infernal. Truly words of class. I don't want to be bad mannered or anything. I didn't say a bad word about Juan.. its just-_- the frustation.. seems like no one can understand :/
Everybody understands frustration. But it's easy to be calm, collected, and nice when you win. The question is if you can do it during the bad times.
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About that: I think playing a daring and innovative build to counter fast nexus, that is otherwise supposed to give protoss a freewin so easily that even Idra fell for it, deserves full credit. I don't think it was more risky than entering a game on Andromeda with iNfeRnaL
iNfeRnaL is a great player, impressive both in play and attitude, and I would have really liked him to make top 16, but that build and Terrans decision making was just genius.
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On January 17 2010 07:24 iNfeRnaL wrote:
Honestly, this was soooooooooooooo fucking well played by Gosi Terran.
I've been raping Terrans left and right in practice and Juan just played soooooo much better today than all of them did.
He clearly was the better player today, I did not choke or anything, I did 2 decision making mistakes in the last two games and that's what did cost me the games.
I do think the games were very entertaining and I want to thank everybody for cheering on me / following me in the TSL2.
It was a pleasure for me to be a part of this sweet tournament and I sure do hope there will be a TSL3.
@Silv: We both know I'm good at practice but I told you often enough that I know its not practice that matters the most.
He's definitely the better player because he's showing better results than I am.
How can you even doubt that, he was 2nd in ASL and is now in the Ro16 of TSL while I am not.
All that is left for me to say at this point is - good luck to everybody in the Ro16, congratulations to Juan and GREAT WORK to all the admins, TSL is simply the best tournament ever.
now that is great to see, props to you mate. even though I was cheering for Gosi Terran, I thought you played great, just tough luck on that Destination game and then the MnM timing push (god I love seeing that build played when it's successful ). thanks for the very entertaining games!
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On January 17 2010 07:39 G.s)NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 07:37 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Infinite respect for that reaction Infernal. Truly words of class. I don't want to be bad mannered or anything. I didn't say a bad word about Juan.. its just-_- the frustation.. seems like no one can understand :/
I do ^^
Maybe the problem was that infernal practiced too much against people like horror and strelok. Who most likely wont have tried to copy gosi terran's style to help infernal, but were also very focused on their own TSL matches.
Just a wild guess though.
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On January 17 2010 07:39 I_Love_Bacon wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 07:39 G.s)NarutO wrote:On January 17 2010 07:37 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Infinite respect for that reaction Infernal. Truly words of class. I don't want to be bad mannered or anything. I didn't say a bad word about Juan.. its just-_- the frustation.. seems like no one can understand :/ Everybody understands frustration. But it's easy to be calm, collected, and nice when you win. The question is if you can do it during the bad times.
I'm not mannered when I win and I'm not mannered when I lose and I really don't care. And you can call me as bad mannered as you want, but I never said anything bad about juan... ;;;
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On January 17 2010 07:40 7mk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 07:39 G.s)NarutO wrote:On January 17 2010 07:37 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Infinite respect for that reaction Infernal. Truly words of class. I don't want to be bad mannered or anything. I didn't say a bad word about Juan.. its just-_- the frustation.. seems like no one can understand :/ I do ^^ Maybe the problem was that infernal practiced too much against people like horror and strelok. Who most likely wont have tried to copy gosi terran's style to help infernal, but were also very focused on their own TSL matches. Just a wild guess though.
HoRRoR has to play Nony btw.
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Naruto, you really look a bit immature when you have been posting the same things for the last 10 pages, followed by Infernal making a very classy post, and then you continue to whine on his behalf? Maybe you should give him the courtesy of telling us what he wants without you putting words in his mouth. We can all appreciate the hard work he put in and how disappointed he must be. Dwelling on that would be understandable if he posted it, but it's seems pretty out of place for a practice partner to be going on and on about it.
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Really classy post by Infernal.
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<3 Infernal, the games got me on the edge of my seat, thanks!
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On January 17 2010 07:44 radar14 wrote:
Naruto, you really look a bit immature when you have been posting the same things for the last 10 pages, followed by Infernal making a very classy post, and then you continue to whine on his behalf? Maybe you should give him the courtesy of telling us what he wants without you putting words in his mouth. We can all appreciate the hard work he put in and how disappointed he must be. Dwelling on that would be understandable if he posted it, but it's seems pretty out of place for a practice partner to be going on and on about it.
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On January 17 2010 07:46 jonich0n wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 07:44 radar14 wrote:
Naruto, you really look a bit immature when you have been posting the same things for the last 10 pages, followed by Infernal making a very classy post, and then you continue to whine on his behalf? Maybe you should give him the courtesy of telling us what he wants without you putting words in his mouth. We can all appreciate the hard work he put in and how disappointed he must be. Dwelling on that would be understandable if he posted it, but it's seems pretty out of place for a practice partner to be going on and on about it. .
Yeah sorry-_-
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On January 17 2010 07:39 G.s)NarutO wrote:Show nested quote +On January 17 2010 07:37 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
Infinite respect for that reaction Infernal. Truly words of class. I don't want to be bad mannered or anything. I didn't say a bad word about Juan.. its just-_- the frustation.. seems like no one can understand :/
Think your not getting the support because you come off as a whiny kid, with your "my dad is stronger then your dad" arguments, with no backing other then hes good in practise. Guess what, you dont win money in practise, you dont get ranked in practise, so just get over it. Having a potential and being able to release your full potential are 2 different things.
The games were indeed great, and both parts played really really well. I especially enjoyed the game on Destination, was so close it was impossible to tell how it would turn out, and I guess I changed my mind like 10 times during that game. 2 great players, sucks that only 1 could advance
Hopefully we will se more of Infernal in TSL3
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Could someone stream the replays here on TL.net plz? :|
btw are the replays out yet?
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Props all around:
-To all four players for playing interesting, exciting games
-To both losers for being classy
-To the TL admins, for choosing to broadcast these matches instead of the ones involving favorites -- as they predicted, the more even games were a blast to watch.
Two potential improvements:
-Was there something wrong with the mics? I'd say the casters were sitting too close to them, but I kinda suspect those two have this sorta thing down by now.
-The discussion of players/maps could probably be cut down a bit.
Overall, very psyched about tomorrow's casts and the upcoming RO16.
--oberon
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Germany / USA16648 Posts
I don't think it was the mics, everything sounded fine to me from in Ventrilo. We'll try to figure that out for sure tho!
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On January 17 2010 08:50 Carnac wrote:
I don't think it was the mics, everything sounded fine to me from in Ventrilo. We'll try to figure that out for sure tho!
I'm obviously no sound guy -- didn't think transmission could add that sort of problem. Even with that, it seemed things went smoother (technically) than the Idra/Nony cast, so I'm psyched to see how professional things will look by the time the "real" TSL starts.
--oberon
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As for the mics sound it sounded like typical too low bitrate issue. Perhpas you by accident lowered the value of transmission somewhere? (I understand that the commentators audio went to video broadcast and was broadcasted from there, considering the delay. Then, commentators audio was mixed with game audio?) This may be not the reason, just saying that it sounds like that when the bitrate is very low.
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Someone make a stream of it TL.net sucks for me.
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Could someone please restream this over livestream ?
Campus internet hates tl
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Maybe I'm a dumbass but I think it's kind of hard to find the stream tbh. What's the link to the official TL stream?
One more thing, I understand it's only 2 days but the VOD:s from Saturdays commentary aren't uploaded. I think would be a good thing to get them out ASAP if you don't want people to loose interest. I don't mean to be rude at all, just saying.
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I second Foucault on this one.
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Agree with Foucault and War_Minister above me. I've spent the last 5 mins trawling the site for replay packs/vods of round 3 and still haven't found them. Managed to get the (btw awesome) games of Morrow vs Koll but that was because I searched youtube... the only link I could find on TL was the torrent.
Morrow vs Koll can be seen at: http://www.youtube.com/user/nevake#p/u/8/rMzQKriByEE
edit: Aha! The Saturday rep packs can be found here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=110166
and the Sunday rep packs here:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=110217
I blundered into links to these posts by mistake and have discovered that they all live in the News section of the forum rather than the TSL section. I think it would be really helpful for people like me if there were just posts there pointing people in the right direction.Looking forward to knockout stages!
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Eh?
The green bar links you to it if you click for results
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Ah good point. I didn't notice that. But I thought the most obvious place to look was the TSL section of the forum and it's not there and there aren't really any links from there either.
edit: fixed here to there
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GosI[Terran] vs mTw.iNfeRnaL was cast but I still can't find a link to the vod either here or even in youtube. Can anybody help me out?
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Thanks a lot to theSAiNT!
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EPT
eX-v1o)MorroW
mouz.Kolll
GosI[Terran]
mouz.Fenix
iG.Casper
Shaman
mouz.MaNa
Ret
DuskBin.Sen
mouz.Strelok
[Pan]KabaL
Liquid`NonY
mouz.Sziky
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