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[TSL] Idra vs Nony Results and Interview

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[TSL] Idra vs Nony Results and Interview

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January 9th, 2010 21:09 GMT
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Results

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(P)(us)NonY< Outsider >(T)(us)IdrA
(P)(us)NonY< Andromeda >(T)(us)IdrA
(P)(us)NonY< Destination >(T)(us)IdrA
(P)(us)NonY< New Tornado>(T)(us)IdrA
 
(P)(us)Liquid`NonY1 - 3(T)(us)IdrA[Media]


(T)(us)IdrA[Media] advances to the PokerStrategy.com TSL Ro16


Battle Reports
by HnR)Insane

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A Day To Remember


(P)(us)NonY 0 - 0 (T)(us)IdrA

The two players met up on iCCup a few minutes early, eager to do battle. Both had high hopes for the day and came prepared to bring their A game. After a quick 5-4-3-2-1, we began a game that was...

Outside Of The Ordinary


IdrA landed his Command Center at the 9 o'clock, planning to swiftly demonstrate to his Protoss foe just what plans he had been developing in Korea. NonY brazenly responded by warping in his own Nexus, and the war was started! The game began quietly enough, with a one Factory expansion going up for IdrA versus NonY's 1 Gateway Robotics Facility → expand opening. IdrA's knowledge of this map showed with his SCV hopping tactics: first, he sent two SCVs north of his base. He then hopped one over, and began a Depot with it on NonY's part of the minerals, allowing him to sneak a scout into his base.

All was not well for the Protoss, however, as IdrA confidently responded to what he saw of the Protoss base by going for a quick second Factory and pushing out with 2 Vultures, 3 SCVs, 3 Tanks, 3 Marines–clearly a believer in the rule of threes. NonY's quick shuttle and 3rd expansion meant he did not have enough to stave off the attack, and he ended up losing his natural. After his attempted counterattack on IdrA with his Reaver failed to do much damage, he was significantly behind.

NonY kept pumping Shuttles at this point, along with Dragoons and Zealots, while taking both of his side expansions: his natural inaccessible due to IdrA's continued contain. IdrA easily took a third of his own, and NonY found himself having to try to do damage with a several-shuttle fleet or else be overrun.

IdrA defended admirably, and continued to pour on his own harassment. Eventually, NonY went for Carriers, and although he did break the contain, he was unable to fight IdrA's actual army and got overrun by the Terran mechanical juggernaut before building up a sufficiently large Carrier fleet of doom.

(P)(us)NonY 0 - 1 (T)(us)IdrA

After the game, the two exchanged a few comments about it. NonY lamented the fact that he had lacked the vespene to pull off what he had wanted to do. IdrA's response was that "G5 units" don't need gas anyway, referring to the mass army of Dragoons and Zealots ferried around by Shuttles.

After receiving a walloping blow in the first game, NonY definitely wanted some revenge–and what better a map on which to get it than Andromeda, foe of Terran commandants everywhere?

The Andromeda Storm


NonY started this game off with a 13 Nexus at the 7, and looked to overwhelm IdrA with the ferocity of a well-macroed force from Aiur. IdrA also quickly expanded twice off one Factory up at the 1, and the set was stage for a long macro based game between two diagonally situated players.

NonY made the first strike, first briefly attempting to break IdrA with a Shuttle with Zealots accompanying some Dragoons, but then settling to killing a few SCVs with Shuttle + Zealot harass, all while taking his fourth. IdrA prevented the attack and harass from doing much damage, and then set out to kill NonY's fourth with 15 Tanks and some Vultures.

The two combatants met in the middle, NonY up about 60 supply (170-120). NonY had come ready for a fist fight, and he wasn't backing down. His units joyfully clashed with the Terran combine, and chaos ensued as Dragoons collapsed, Zealots evaporated, and Tanks exploded. NonY managed to land some powerful storms with a few High Templar in a Shuttle, but eventually IdrA came out on top, and NonY was forced to fall back licking his wounds.

Running on 11 Gateways to IdrA's 8 Factories, NonY rebuilt his forces while attempting to stall the push and keep his fourth alive. They both continually rallied their forces towards the center and collided again and again. IdrA barely managed to kill the Protoss fourth Nexus, but the enraged Protoss army then killed the Terran attack definitively.

Although his attack had been stopped, IdrA had now taken a fourth and was looking strong at over 170 supply. At even supplies, the two met outside IdrA's fourth, but this time the Protoss flung themselves forward with even greater abandon. Storms crackled, and the entire screen was awash with lightning, explosions, and blue goo as NonY channeled the spirit of Reach himself and came gloriously pouring over the Terran army. When the air was silent once more, the Protoss found themselves victorious over the Terrans.

With the Terran fourth frantically evacuated, IdrA managed to hold on a few more minutes before eventually trying to come out again but getting overwhelmed by the Protoss numbers. IdrA characteristically silently left, and the players stood even once more.

(P)(us)NonY 1 - 1 (T)(us)IdrA

Before the next game began, IdrA asked NonY: did he feel guilty about playing like that on Andromeda? NonY merely expressed his love of the map, and next game was on!

Destination: Victory


IdrA began this game at the 6 by getting offensive gased. Executor NonY was not content to win merely by creating huge forces on Andromeda, but also intended to demonstrate his skill at guile and tricks. A Command Center went down before the Refinery in response, and the Terran looked to a lone Bunker at his choke to defend himself.

NonY followed up by expanding and hitting the Bunker from out of range with Dragoons. IdrA eventually forced him back, but the Protoss were not macroing and not expanding. Instead, two Stargates had already completed, and a Fleet Beacon was being warped in for Carriers!

With a four factory build before his third, the Commander was well set to respond, and he quickly set out to prevent the Protoss from getting a dangerous number of Carriers. The two forces met outside the Protoss' natural bridge. NonY's two Carriers, 9 Dragoons, and a few Zealots were unable to fight the 6 Tanks supported by a similar number of Goliaths and a few Marines.

After winning the battle, IdrA went forward and killed the Nexus with the long arm of a few Siege tanks, but then pulled back. Now on 3 bases to 1, he was content to build up for a bit rather than try to push it and risk letting NonY back into the game.

For a few minutes, NonY managed to struggle on, but his build had been pretty directly countered by what IdrA did, and he was unable to ever establish a good position this game.

(P)(us)NonY 1 - 2 (T)(us)IdrA

The players were silent after this game; IdrA had weathered the risk of a Carrier fleet by virtue of his build, and NonY knew he needed to bring his absolute best play to the next game in order to even up the series against the Terran dominion.

Terran and Toss Tornadoes


NonY started this game off like a tornado indeed, beginning at the 4 and not only manner pyloning his opponent but also harassing with a Zealot. IdrA defended flawlessly for a while, until suddenly the Protoss came barrelling up the Terran ramp with 2 Dragoons and a Zealot. The 3 Marines and SCV defenders were all killed in exchange for the Zealot, and for a mere second it looked as if IdrA might be in trouble.

He was unconcerned, however, and with a freshly minted Siege Tank repaired by several SCVs, NonY was sent packing; one of the Dragoons barely made it out with 10 life. A Nexus was the immediate response, and NonY continued to display spirit that would make a berserker proud. Within no time at all, the Protoss were again breaking into the Terran base: 5 Dragoons came in the front as a Reaver and 2 Zealots were dropped on top of the defending Siege Tanks.

Nearly all of the SCVs at the natural were killed, and one Reaver managed to slowly crawl away to safety as IdrA got things back in line within the Terran base. Reaver harassment attempts continued, but he was unable to seriously damage IdrA at this point, and the game turned into a macro fest–or so it would seem!

As IdrA took his third, NonY showed the reason for his own slightly delayed third: an army of Dragoons mixed with speed Zealots clashed with the Terran forces heading to the third. IdrA had barely seen it coming in time, and just managed to fight with his SCVs combined with his forces. In the end, the Protoss were killed to a man and the Terran barely emerged victorious. Had those SCVs been but a few seconds later, IdrA's forces would have been swept away.

The newly summoned Protoss army danced around outside Siege Tank range, but there were simply too many mechs for them to engage. IdrA relentlessly pushed forward, but when a group of Dragoons tried to backstab his third, he swiftly isolated and executed them for thinking such thoughts.

Over time IdrA solidified his position near NonY on the map, and NonY was forced to concede the game, and the match, to IdrA. He congratulated "You had to push so far, it was very impressive", and then left the game.

(P)(us)NonY 1 - 3 (T)(us)IdrA



Interview With The Winner


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PokerStrategy.com TSL:
Congrats on winning, how do you feel?

IdrA[Media]:
Pretty good, I expected to win but he was playing pretty abusive strategies so I got a little nervous a few times throughout the series.

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
Can you describe what happened in each game a bit, and how you felt at the critical moments?

IdrA[Media]:
Well the first game on outsider was pretty easy since I got a second scv scout in and saw he went 1 gate expo to his front expo so I just did a fac cc fac push and killed it, his reaver drop counter didnt do enough damage so I was able to just outmacro him from there. There weren't really any critical moments that game, beyond getting the scout scv in.

Second game he chose to take a freewin by going double nexus on andro. Got diagonal positions to make it even sillier. I timing pushed and killed his expo and a bunch of probes and won every battle, but then he made some units that kill everything and I lost. Critical moment there was him building his nexus. Very well done by him.

Third game he gas rushed me on desti, but went 1 gate expo followup so I was able to just go rax cc and end up in pretty even shape. I scanned really fast carriers and luckily I had gone 4 fac before 3rd cc, because I expected him to try to bust me with a shuttle when I moved out to take my third, so I was able to timing push him as the first carriers came out. I pretty much won when I saw the carriers that early.

Fourth game was probably the closest. I think he opened 1 gate reaver bulldog, did good damage with it. Killed maybe 2-3 tanks and 8-10 scvs, plus got his expo up pretty fast. He was in good shape there, but then he showed me speedlots really early and he got his third kinda late so I knew hed try to break my third, I saw it coming and got scvs blocking in time to defend. That kind of evened up the game and then I was just able to abuse the map to push into his natural and there wasn't much he could do about it. His reaver attack and then goon/speedlot attack were the two critical moments and I was pretty nervous at both, but luckily I managed to defend.

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
In the last game, you mentioned feeling nervous at both critical moments... did you ever think to yourself that you had actually lost, or was it just nervous that you might lose?

IdrA[Media]:
Just that they were dangerous situations, on the reaver bulldog I knew it was just 1 gate from his goon count so he wouldn't be able to kill me, and I knew the speedlot attack was coming and got the scvs out in time so I was pretty sure I could block it.

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
In all the games, we saw a pretty big lack of arbiters... were you expecting him to use arbiters in the match?

IdrA[Media]:
Well on Destination carriers are a better choice so that wasn't suprising, on outsider arbiters are ridiculously strong but he was so behind economically that it wouldnt've worked. He had to just bank on me not seeing carriers in time. Tornado arbiters definitely would have helped him but he chose to try to end it early instead of teching. Given that he was trying to avoid a management game with me it's not all that suprising that he didn't go arbiters.

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
NonY used to be known for his crisp build orders and relying upon his strong mechanics as his play. Were you expecting him to rely upon that style, or to try to play cheesily, maybe even with some kind of early DT play to try to catch you off guard?

IdrA[Media]:
I expected him to play really abusive econ builds, the way he did on outsider and andro. I think cheesy allins would have given him a better chance but thats never really been his style so while I was aware of them I didn't really think he'd use them.

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
How did you prepare for this match?

IdrA[Media]:
I didn't intend to prepare at all since we had a ranking league yesterday but my coach knew about my match and he actually told me not to play the league and just practice for tsl instead, even had (P)invade[fOu] skip the league as well to help. So I just practiced with him.

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
And how are you going to celebrate now? Perhaps buying invade some drinks?

IdrA[Media]:
It's just the qualifiers, I wasn't really planning on celebrating yet. Gotta save that for the finals.

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
You just played NonY several games. How do you think he'll do in his qualifier group ((Z)(bg)NeMu, (T)(de)HoRRoR in Q1, (Z)(fr)KenZy in Q2)

IdrA[Media]:
He'll win it easily. No one in that group is capable of outplaying him and he'll have a bo5 since hes into q3.

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
So, as I'm sure you're aware, your countryman G5 beat Cloud 2-0... how do you feel about that match? Any comments?

IdrA[Media]:
I'm very happy for G5, and I love the fact that Cloud is getting all butthurt about it on the forums since he's one the emo players who has a hissy fit every time someone says anything after a match.

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
Any final message to your fans, or perhaps a flame for your anti-fans?

IdrA[Media]:
Thanks for cheering for me, hope you enjoyed the match.

PokerStrategy.com TSL:
OK, thanks for the interview IdrA! good luck in the future rounds of the PokerStrategy.com TSL!

IdrA[Media]:
No problem, thanks


Congratulations to (T)(us)IdrA!




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Corr
Profile Joined January 2009
Denmark796 Posts
January 09 2010 21:12 GMT
#2
"Critical moment there was him building his nexus. Very well done by him."

Idra as we prefer him!
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 21:17:14
January 09 2010 21:12 GMT
#3
he made some units that kill everything and I lost. Critical moment there was him building his nexus. Very well done by him.


Classic.

I didn't intend to prepare at all since we had a ranking league yesterday but my coach knew about my match and he actually told me not to play the league and just practice for tsl instead, even had (P)invade[fOu] skip the league as well to help. So I just practiced with him.


That's very nice of the coach. Is invade[fOu] really good?
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
January 09 2010 21:14 GMT
#4
IdrA[Media]:
I didn't intend to prepare at all since we had a ranking league yesterday but my coach knew about my match and he actually told me not to play the league and just practice for tsl instead, even had (P)invade[fOu] skip the league as well to help. So I just practiced with him.


This made me smile . Pretty awesome that CJ is taking this seriously.
VeirenT
Profile Joined August 2008
United States181 Posts
January 09 2010 21:16 GMT
#5
nicenice, it's good that the coach devoted another player to practice with him!
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
January 09 2010 21:16 GMT
#6
Ah, IdrA, IdrA, IdrA....
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9933 Posts
January 09 2010 21:18 GMT
#7
another reason why cj is awesome. was invade annoyed at all?
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IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32271 Posts
January 09 2010 21:18 GMT
#8
hahahahahah
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CynanMachae
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Canada1459 Posts
January 09 2010 21:18 GMT
#9
Lol at the nexus comments, and yea, pretty nice of CJ coach to give him some time for TSL
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emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
January 09 2010 21:19 GMT
#10
I love the fact that Cloud is getting all butthurt about it on the forums since he's one the emo players who has a hissy fit every time someone says anything after a match.


lol
TryThis
Profile Joined February 2007
Canada1522 Posts
January 09 2010 21:19 GMT
#11
"I knew hed try to break my third, I saw it coming and got scvs blocking in time to defend."

i looked like such a lucky maynard to me while i was watching it, still that was a really close game.
gotta love idras comments
Dwell
pripple
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Finland1714 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 21:20:10
January 09 2010 21:19 GMT
#12
loooool at idra's comments of game2, hahahahaha ;D
CJ looking like a really nice team afterall, can't hate them anymore... oh well there's still SKT1 left!
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24632 Posts
January 09 2010 21:19 GMT
#13
Between Idra's superior experience and the support he's apparently getting he's undoubtedly going be a monster until the end.

Congrats on your win Greg.
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Salv
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada3083 Posts
January 09 2010 21:20 GMT
#14
Nice interview. Hilarious to see Idra mentioning other players hissy fits.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 21:21:05
January 09 2010 21:20 GMT
#15
games 2 and 4 were great with high level play from both guys. gg.

and congrats to idra
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 21:21:47
January 09 2010 21:21 GMT
#16
Allowing him to skip a tournament is no big deal; but actually allocating him another player solely to help him practice... awesome.
I wonder if CJ get a portion of your prize money if he wins?
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Zeburial
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden1126 Posts
January 09 2010 21:21 GMT
#17
was awesome to watch! ^_^ Go idra go!
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oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
January 09 2010 21:21 GMT
#18
On January 10 2010 06:09 Hot_Bid wrote:
but then he made some units that kill everything and I lost.


So, per Idra, templar under swarm would be "invincible units that kill everything"? The emotional maturity vs. Starcraft ability contrast is strong.

--oberon
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16957 Posts
January 09 2010 21:21 GMT
#19
Idra's really improved since last year. Congratulations on today.
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Bosu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3247 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 21:26:37
January 09 2010 21:23 GMT
#20
Idras interview skillz have improved 100x since his first scforall one. You should give lessons to the other pros on how to have a good interview.

Was a pretty great series. Usually I find foreigner Bo5 to be pretty boring, but this was as fun to watch as a lot of pro level games to me.
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emucxg
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Finland4559 Posts
January 09 2010 21:23 GMT
#21
On January 10 2010 06:21 oberon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 06:09 Hot_Bid wrote:
but then he made some units that kill everything and I lost.


So, per Idra, templar under swarm would be "invincible units that kill everything"? The emotional maturity vs. Starcraft ability contrast is strong.

--oberon

haha this one was the best
zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
January 09 2010 21:24 GMT
#22
Lol Idra is makes me giggle
Night gathers, and now my watch begins. It shall not end until my death. I shall take no wife, hold no lands, father no children. I shall wear no crown and win no glory. I shall live and die at my post. I am the sword in the darkness.
Suc
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia1569 Posts
January 09 2010 21:25 GMT
#23
I was kind of shocked at NonY losing on Tornado after that early advantage. Damn that scv transfer!!
Shatter
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1401 Posts
January 09 2010 21:25 GMT
#24
Very nice Idra. GJ on your win.
No_eL
Profile Joined July 2007
Chile1438 Posts
January 09 2010 21:25 GMT
#25
Second game he chose to take a freewin by going double nexus on andro. Got diagonal positions to make it even sillier. I timing pushed and killed his expo and a bunch of probes and won every battle, but then he made some units that kill everything and I lost.


lol
Beat after beat i will become stronger.
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
January 09 2010 21:27 GMT
#26
Idra is hilarious hahaha.
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 21:31:01
January 09 2010 21:30 GMT
#27
On January 10 2010 06:21 oberon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 06:09 Hot_Bid wrote:
but then he made some units that kill everything and I lost.


So, per Idra, templar under swarm would be "invincible units that kill everything"? The emotional maturity vs. Starcraft ability contrast is strong.

--oberon


Let's see.

Can't take a joke? Check.
Insult idra? Check.
Signed your post? Check.

You're awesome...
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dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
January 09 2010 21:32 GMT
#28
Idra sure gives fun interview.

Hat's off to CJ coach and best of luck to Nony.
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
January 09 2010 21:32 GMT
#29
Nice interview. I too am happy that CJ is working to help IdrA train.
Re-Play-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Dominican Republic825 Posts
January 09 2010 21:34 GMT
#30
yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhh thx for the interview
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faction123
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia949 Posts
January 09 2010 21:34 GMT
#31
"I knew hed try to break my third, I saw it coming and got scvs blocking in time to defend"

LOL
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[GiTM]-Ace
Profile Joined September 2002
United States4935 Posts
January 09 2010 21:34 GMT
#32
hahahah gotta love it
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Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
January 09 2010 21:34 GMT
#33
On January 10 2010 06:21 oberon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 06:09 Hot_Bid wrote:
but then he made some units that kill everything and I lost.


So, per Idra, templar under swarm would be "invincible units that kill everything"? The emotional maturity vs. Starcraft ability contrast is strong.

--oberon

I don't mind people saying this. But to call someone immature, and then sign your post...
Jaedong
Zalfor
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States1035 Posts
January 09 2010 21:39 GMT
#34
i think more people dislike idra than like him.
555, kthxbai
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
January 09 2010 21:39 GMT
#35
will the replays be released?
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14892 Posts
January 09 2010 21:41 GMT
#36
for the 304364356th time, no
nodule
Profile Joined February 2008
Canada931 Posts
January 09 2010 21:41 GMT
#37
nope, only vods
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5281 Posts
January 09 2010 21:43 GMT
#38
Am I the only one who is not really entertained by Idra's comments anymore?
It seems so childish.

I find Mistrzzz funny, because he's overdoing it, and you know he's not serious, so the joke is more on the people reacting as if he was serious.
But Idra sometimes makes me feel sad for him.
NarutO
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Germany18839 Posts
January 09 2010 21:44 GMT
#39
Greg fighting =] gotta love his interviews hehe.
CommentatorPolt | MMA | Jjakji | BoxeR | NaDa | MVP | MKP ... truly inspiring.
horang3
Profile Joined November 2009
United States261 Posts
January 09 2010 21:45 GMT
#40
Oh idra you never fail to be entertaining. to the person who thinks he's childish: I'm pretty sure that he doesn't really think that HT kill everything...
Do great work
DyEnasTy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3714 Posts
January 09 2010 21:46 GMT
#41
Congrats Idra on the win. And super awesome BR! I read every word.
Much better to die an awesome Terran than to live as a magic wielding fairy or a mindless sac of biological goop. -Manifesto7
Attris
Profile Joined September 2009
United States175 Posts
January 09 2010 21:49 GMT
#42
On January 10 2010 06:45 horang3 wrote:
Oh idra you never fail to be entertaining. to the person who thinks he's childish: I'm pretty sure that he doesn't really think that HT kill everything...


You give him too much credit with that statement.
Are you serious? |sRs| www.srejects.com
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
January 09 2010 21:50 GMT
#43
On January 10 2010 06:43 niteReloaded wrote:
Am I the only one who is not really entertained by Idra's comments anymore?
It seems so childish.

I find Mistrzzz funny, because he's overdoing it, and you know he's not serious, so the joke is more on the people reacting as if he was serious.
But Idra sometimes makes me feel sad for him.

i don't think idra is serious either

the entertaining part is the reactions of the people who think he is
I drop suckas like Plinko
Smix *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States4549 Posts
January 09 2010 21:53 GMT
#44
aw invade good sport
congrats to idra~
TranslatorBe an Optimist Prime, Not a Negatron // twitter @smixity
EvoChamber
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France2505 Posts
January 09 2010 21:56 GMT
#45
On January 10 2010 06:34 Avidkeystamper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 06:21 oberon wrote:
On January 10 2010 06:09 Hot_Bid wrote:
but then he made some units that kill everything and I lost.


So, per Idra, templar under swarm would be "invincible units that kill everything"? The emotional maturity vs. Starcraft ability contrast is strong.

--oberon

I don't mind people saying this. But to call someone immature, and then sign your post...

--Avidkeystamper



For real yo.
That's not awful writing, DAMMIT. It's perfectly sensical english construction.
wadadde
Profile Joined February 2009
270 Posts
January 09 2010 21:59 GMT
#46
Oh no, Idra's back to being 'funny'..
Being totally devoid of wit is a good talent to have I guess.
I can't even bring myself to finish reading this shit. That's a first..
DivinO
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States4796 Posts
January 09 2010 22:00 GMT
#47
Congrats IdrA. Good luck NonY!
LiquipediaBrain in my filth.
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
January 09 2010 22:02 GMT
#48
i'm still waiting for someone to ask him why he never says gg. his mom never gave him education at all? hahaha
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
Jonteman
Profile Joined November 2004
Sweden644 Posts
January 09 2010 22:03 GMT
#49
my hero!
Native
Profile Joined October 2007
Poland105 Posts
January 09 2010 22:05 GMT
#50
When next game will be streamed?
seppolevne
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada1681 Posts
January 09 2010 22:06 GMT
#51
Grats Idra! GL in the rest of the TSL.
J- Pirate Udyr WW T- Pirate Riven Galio M- Galio Annie S- Sona Lux -- Always farm, never carry.
ConceptX
Profile Joined December 2007
United States19 Posts
January 09 2010 22:09 GMT
#52
Oh no, Idra's back to being 'funny'..
Being totally devoid of wit is a good talent to have I guess.
I can't even bring myself to finish reading this shit. That's a first..


The only thing funnier than Idra's interviews are wadadde's increasingly predictable responses!! I love it!!
www.youtube.com/user/conceptxsc
HeaDStrong
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Scotland785 Posts
January 09 2010 22:13 GMT
#53
After reading rekrul's post on progaming houses thes attitued idra gets from the cj coaches made me smile.

great games!

loved artosis prediction on no gg on second game, i thought idra is done with that no gg thing, but apparently...
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
January 09 2010 22:20 GMT
#54
Along with congrats for Idra, of course, also big ups to the casting/tech team. There were some strange things going on (forever-banner, no game sound, random music showing up) but it was a good first run and I'm excited to see the production values once the round of 16 hits. Only thing I wasn't so fond of was the consensus that Nony should cheese in game 4.

--oberon
XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
January 09 2010 22:22 GMT
#55
gz to idra! What a lovely guy.
화이팅
bjornkavist
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada1235 Posts
January 09 2010 22:23 GMT
#56
TvP IMBAAAAAW
https://soundcloud.com/bbols
sword_siege
Profile Joined September 2002
United States624 Posts
January 09 2010 22:36 GMT
#57
On January 10 2010 07:20 oberon wrote:
Along with congrats for Idra, of course, also big ups to the casting/tech team. There were some strange things going on (forever-banner, no game sound, random music showing up) but it was a good first run and I'm excited to see the production values once the round of 16 hits. Only thing I wasn't so fond of was the consensus that Nony should cheese in game 4.

--oberon


I wonder who made this post. Hmm, let me check. Oh yes, now I see the signature at the bottom it was oberon!
cHicKeLoR
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany559 Posts
January 09 2010 22:36 GMT
#58
very impressive games. Especially game 2 was pretty sweet coz I did not see that coming :D

good job by cast & tech team. Cannot wait for the Ro. 16 to start
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
January 09 2010 22:40 GMT
#59
Game 2 and game 4 were some pretty sweet games.
And also, Idra's interviews are so great. I giggle like a little girl when I read them..
wat
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
January 09 2010 22:45 GMT
#60
<3 greg
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
January 09 2010 22:45 GMT
#61
Why the hell does Idra still have a bad attitude?
machinehead..
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
412 Posts
January 09 2010 22:45 GMT
#62
I have yet to see a legit 12 nexus win.... Good interview and well deserved wins.
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
January 09 2010 22:46 GMT
#63
Before the next game began, IdrA asked NonY: did he feel guilty about playing like that on Andromeda? NonY merely expressed his love of the map, and next game was on!

*sigh*
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
7mk
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Germany10157 Posts
January 09 2010 22:59 GMT
#64
On January 10 2010 06:18 intrigue wrote:
another reason why cj is awesome.

beep boop
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 23:04:22
January 09 2010 22:59 GMT
#65
On January 10 2010 07:45 machinehead.. wrote:
I have yet to see a legit 12 nexus win.... Good interview and well deserved wins.


While 12 nexus may be difficult to counter, you don't see Jaedong or Flash saying that their opponents "abused" x, y, or z to win. They don't make excuses, all is fair within the rules of the game, and whether or not the best player won, they don't bitch about it. It just doesn't make any sense to me why Idra always comes off as someone with a bad attitude, if he expects to make it as a pro he should consider his image (and keep the comments private, whether they are serious or not). It would increase the respect he gets from the community and other players.
NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
January 09 2010 23:00 GMT
#66
congrats to idra. i think him and i are one of the only pairs of trash talking people with which you can be sure it's all good-natured :D although his anger at 12nex and andro are probably sincere haha

without making any excuses, allow me to publish my recent schedule:
fall semester finals dec 8-12
travel home, visit family dec 13-17
wedding-related activities dec 18-20
honeymoon in hawaii dec 21-31
oh shit i have to play idra jan 1-7
play idra jan 8

i'll be playing better for Q3, and even better for the TSL
"Fucking up is part of it. If you can't fail, you have to always win. And I don't think you can always win." Elliott Smith ---------- Yet no sudden rage darkened his face, and his eyes were calm as they studied her. Then he smiled. 'Witness.'
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
January 09 2010 23:10 GMT
#67
"I timing pushed and killed his expo and a bunch of probes and won every battle, but then he made some units that kill everything and I lost."

LMAO
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 23:32:47
January 09 2010 23:10 GMT
#68
I really don't like Idra at all, i used to think he was a good respectful player who lost his temper at times and i thought that was funny, now it seems as though every strategy that is to his disadvantage is a "freewin". If it wearn't for that scv transfer during game 4 Idra would have lost to Nony 3-2....

I wish Idra would lose the last game in a Bo5 to cheese, i would really like to see those fireworks fly.
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
danbel1005
Profile Joined February 2008
United States1319 Posts
January 09 2010 23:11 GMT
#69
On January 10 2010 07:45 Wr3k wrote:
Why the hell does Idra still have a bad attitude?


cuz hes adopted
"EE HAN TIMING" Jaedong vs Stork [22 December, 2007] 2set @ Finals EVER OSL.
love1another
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1844 Posts
January 09 2010 23:19 GMT
#70
On January 10 2010 08:11 danbel1005 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 07:45 Wr3k wrote:
Why the hell does Idra still have a bad attitude?


cuz hes adopted

lmfao
"I'm learning more and more that TL isn't the place to go for advice outside of anything you need in college. It's like you guys just make up your own fantasy world shit and post it as if you've done it." - Chill
machinehead..
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
412 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 23:22:16
January 09 2010 23:20 GMT
#71
On January 10 2010 07:59 Wr3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 07:45 machinehead.. wrote:
I have yet to see a legit 12 nexus win.... Good interview and well deserved wins.


While 12 nexus may be difficult to counter, you don't see Jaedong or Flash saying that their opponents "abused" x, y, or z to win. They don't make excuses, all is fair within the rules of the game, and whether or not the best player won, they don't bitch about it. It just doesn't make any sense to me why Idra always comes off as someone with a bad attitude, if he expects to make it as a pro he should consider his image (and keep the comments private, whether they are serious or not). It would increase the respect he gets from the community and other players.


It was also kinda a light-hearted comment on my part as inherently terran players hate 12 nexus. But in honesty, if someone goes 12 nexus versus you and you didn't 8 rax, and you both play at the same level till the game is over -- the terran will lose. So when you are analyzing a loss, it's hard to give much credit if you feel you played better but they simply had the better build and rode out their eco advantage. It's not like Idra called Nony a bad player (nony is really good and he acknowledges that). I would rather have a progamer be honest about how he felt, than give some sugar coated answers. What's the point of even asking someone about their thoughts if you get mad if they tell you how they feel?
icydergosu
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
528 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 23:23:58
January 09 2010 23:22 GMT
#72
Great series of games, brilliant coverage. I hope they will meet again.
I am the Punishment of God. If you had not commited great sins, god would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.
Rufio
Profile Joined December 2009
241 Posts
January 09 2010 23:30 GMT
#73
Loved the commentary! Nice interview too.
"Rufio Rufio Ru Fi OOOooo" - The Lost Boys
Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 23:50:47
January 09 2010 23:33 GMT
#74
On January 10 2010 08:20 machinehead.. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 07:59 Wr3k wrote:
On January 10 2010 07:45 machinehead.. wrote:
I have yet to see a legit 12 nexus win.... Good interview and well deserved wins.


While 12 nexus may be difficult to counter, you don't see Jaedong or Flash saying that their opponents "abused" x, y, or z to win. They don't make excuses, all is fair within the rules of the game, and whether or not the best player won, they don't bitch about it. It just doesn't make any sense to me why Idra always comes off as someone with a bad attitude, if he expects to make it as a pro he should consider his image (and keep the comments private, whether they are serious or not). It would increase the respect he gets from the community and other players.


It was also kinda a light-hearted comment on my part as inherently terran players hate 12 nexus. But in honesty, if someone goes 12 nexus versus you and you didn't 8 rax, and you both play at the same level till the game is over -- the terran will lose. So when you are analyzing a loss, it's hard to give much credit if you feel you played better but they simply had the better build and rode out their eco advantage. It's not like Idra called Nony a bad player (nony is really good and he acknowledges that). I would rather have a progamer be honest about how he felt, than give some sugar coated answers. What's the point of even asking someone about their thoughts if you get mad if they tell you how they feel?


Its just a matter of wording things in a way that doesn't make you come off like a poor-sport. This is how I would have answered the questions:


IdrA[Media]:
Pretty good, I expected to win but he was playing pretty abusive strategies so I got a little nervous a few times throughout the series.


Pretty good, I was confident going into these games, but Nony was doing everything he could to gain an advantage in this matchup, and definitely made me nervous a few times during the series.


IdrA[Media]:
Second game he chose to take a freewin by going double nexus on andro. Got diagonal positions to make it even sillier. I timing pushed and killed his expo and a bunch of probes and won every battle, but then he made some units that kill everything and I lost. Critical moment there was him building his nexus. Very well done by him.


The second game was very challenging for me due to the map and cross position spawns. This allowed Nony to safely 12 nexus, giving him an early advantage. My timing push was effective, and I felt that I was playing very well, winning most of the battles; however, I lost the bulk of my force due to a strong break and effective psi storms, and could not recover.



IdrA[Media]:
I expected him to play really abusive econ builds, the way he did on outsider and andro. I think cheesy allins would have given him a better chance but thats never really been his style so while I was aware of them I didn't really think he'd use them.


I expected him to take advantage of the map layout and use strong economic builds the way he did on outside and ando. I think some more risky all in attacks could have succeeded against me, but knowing his style I did not anticipate him doing so.

See... its not very hard to make yourself not sound like a whiner. (Even if he was trying to be funny, I'm really not a fan of his attitude).
Thegilaboy
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2018 Posts
January 09 2010 23:34 GMT
#75
On January 10 2010 08:00 Liquid`NonY wrote:
congrats to idra. i think him and i are one of the only pairs of trash talking people with which you can be sure it's all good-natured :D although his anger at 12nex and andro are probably sincere haha

without making any excuses, allow me to publish my recent schedule:
fall semester finals dec 8-12
travel home, visit family dec 13-17
wedding-related activities dec 18-20
honeymoon in hawaii dec 21-31
oh shit i have to play idra jan 1-7
play idra jan 8

i'll be playing better for Q3, and even better for the TSL


Congrats are in order for you then too considering all of this! Thanks for the very entertaining games NonY
machinehead..
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
412 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 23:37:42
January 09 2010 23:36 GMT
#76
On January 10 2010 08:33 Wr3k wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 08:20 machinehead.. wrote:
On January 10 2010 07:59 Wr3k wrote:
On January 10 2010 07:45 machinehead.. wrote:
I have yet to see a legit 12 nexus win.... Good interview and well deserved wins.


While 12 nexus may be difficult to counter, you don't see Jaedong or Flash saying that their opponents "abused" x, y, or z to win. They don't make excuses, all is fair within the rules of the game, and whether or not the best player won, they don't bitch about it. It just doesn't make any sense to me why Idra always comes off as someone with a bad attitude, if he expects to make it as a pro he should consider his image (and keep the comments private, whether they are serious or not). It would increase the respect he gets from the community and other players.


It was also kinda a light-hearted comment on my part as inherently terran players hate 12 nexus. But in honesty, if someone goes 12 nexus versus you and you didn't 8 rax, and you both play at the same level till the game is over -- the terran will lose. So when you are analyzing a loss, it's hard to give much credit if you feel you played better but they simply had the better build and rode out their eco advantage. It's not like Idra called Nony a bad player (nony is really good and he acknowledges that). I would rather have a progamer be honest about how he felt, than give some sugar coated answers. What's the point of even asking someone about their thoughts if you get mad if they tell you how they feel?


If he replaced phrases like "he abused X" with "he did this, and it was difficult for me to y" it would make him look much more respectable and level headed.


If he ever makes proleague and gets an interview, I would tend to agree with you on that one. There is a balance to achieve in being professional but also being candid. But, really this isn't a professional event, and unless his team finds a problem in it, I wouldn't make a big deal about it.
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
January 09 2010 23:37 GMT
#77
I expected a "good talent toi have" comment somewhere in the games, was disappointed that there wasn't one.
[TLMS] REBOOT
Macavenger
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1132 Posts
January 09 2010 23:38 GMT
#78
On January 10 2010 08:00 Liquid`NonY wrote:
congrats to idra. i think him and i are one of the only pairs of trash talking people with which you can be sure it's all good-natured :D although his anger at 12nex and andro are probably sincere haha

without making any excuses, allow me to publish my recent schedule:
fall semester finals dec 8-12
travel home, visit family dec 13-17
wedding-related activities dec 18-20
honeymoon in hawaii dec 21-31
oh shit i have to play idra jan 1-7
play idra jan 8

i'll be playing better for Q3, and even better for the TSL

Nice

Congrats on the wedding Nony, and thanks for the great series today. Didn't play up to my hopes, but well beyond my expectations. Good luck in Q3, and looking forward to your games in the rest of the TSL.
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
January 09 2010 23:39 GMT
#79
--- Nuked ---
ccou
Profile Joined December 2008
United States681 Posts
January 09 2010 23:39 GMT
#80
O man, I can't believe I forgot about this. I think I was doing laundry or something as retarded. I'll have to watch the vods.

-Oberon
Wake up Mr. B!
Shatter
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1401 Posts
January 09 2010 23:40 GMT
#81
On January 10 2010 08:37 OpticalShot wrote:
I expected a "good talent toi have" comment somewhere in the games, was disappointed that there wasn't one.
Artosis did one in the stream when NonY got carriers.
Macavenger
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1132 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 00:06:21
January 09 2010 23:41 GMT
#82
Is the torrent failing for anyone else? It's hanging on Getting Torrent Info for me. Not sure if there's something busted, or maybe my aging client is failing and I need to find a new one.

Edit: yeah, it appears to have been my outdated client's problem.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
January 09 2010 23:43 GMT
#83
Dunno about comment with Cloud being "butthurt"... Idra is being butthurt after EVERY game he loses, but now since somebody told that his friend played bad (which was true) he calls it butthurt? Sounds like hypocrisy to me...
RandomAccount#49059
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States2140 Posts
January 09 2010 23:44 GMT
#84
--- Nuked ---
TeH_Mentalist
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Korea (South)244 Posts
January 09 2010 23:46 GMT
#85
I still wish Nony won
machinehead..
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
412 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-09 23:51:16
January 09 2010 23:50 GMT
#86
On January 10 2010 08:44 stormtemplar wrote:
Good job nony. Also, a strong counter (I think) to 12 nex is 14 CC. We then have to either kill you or expand again, neither of which is easy


You are not going to be able to say, "I see 12 nexus so I'm going to counter with 14 cc." The anger comes with the luck involved. 12 nexus at far positions is the best build a toss could have against terran, so if the players are around the same level, terran shouldn't win a large percentage of those games.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
January 09 2010 23:59 GMT
#87
lol idra ^_^ great interview guys, thanks
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Order
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Lithuania231 Posts
January 09 2010 23:59 GMT
#88
IdrA[Media]:
Pretty good, I expected to win but he was playing pretty abusive strategies so I got a little nervous a few times throughout the series.



seriously, I can't believe his arrogance level
Common Sense - so rare that it's a super power
machinehead..
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
412 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 00:05:00
January 10 2010 00:04 GMT
#89
On January 10 2010 08:59 Order wrote:
Show nested quote +
IdrA[Media]:
Pretty good, I expected to win but he was playing pretty abusive strategies so I got a little nervous a few times throughout the series.



seriously, I can't believe his arrogance level


If a current progamer doesn't have the confidence that he should/will beat a player that was in a pro house for a brief amount of time, then how will Idra be able to fare against fellow progamers if he doesn't even have that confidence against Nony? He is a pro and he needs to have confidence in his abilities. Not only that, but he should because he is pro due to those abilities.
SuperArc
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Austria7781 Posts
January 10 2010 00:08 GMT
#90
Wow, CJ coach is so awesome!!!
Snow - future of protoss! :) Nada = baller
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
January 10 2010 00:13 GMT
#91
On January 10 2010 08:59 Order wrote:
Show nested quote +
IdrA[Media]:
Pretty good, I expected to win but he was playing pretty abusive strategies so I got a little nervous a few times throughout the series.



seriously, I can't believe his arrogance level


Cry a river, seriously.

I hate boring people that don't say what they actually feel. That's exactly why I like Idra... because he actually shows freaking emotion. Manner this and manner that gets so boring after awhile
Python is garbage, number 1 advocate of getting rid of it.
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
January 10 2010 00:23 GMT
#92
On January 10 2010 09:13 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 08:59 Order wrote:
IdrA[Media]:
Pretty good, I expected to win but he was playing pretty abusive strategies so I got a little nervous a few times throughout the series.



seriously, I can't believe his arrogance level


Cry a river, seriously.

I hate boring people that don't say what they actually feel. That's exactly why I like Idra... because he actually shows freaking emotion. Manner this and manner that gets so boring after awhile

Problem is not in saying what you feel but in saying what you feel in redneckish way, you can say "he played like shit" and you can say "well, his play wasn't as good as it could be". Guess which one is nicer?
zekie
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada380 Posts
January 10 2010 00:27 GMT
#93
[B]
wedding-related activities dec 18-20
honeymoon in hawaii dec 21-31


congratulations on getting married, Nony

i just got married in July and its amazing isn't it?
ThunderGod
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
New Zealand897 Posts
January 10 2010 00:31 GMT
#94
Props to Nony for a competitive series.
"Certain forms of popular music nowadays, namely rap and hip hop styles, are just irritating gangsters bragging about their illegal exploits and short-sighted lifestyles." - Shiverfish ~2009
knyttym
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States5797 Posts
January 10 2010 00:32 GMT
#95
You had to push so far, it was very impressive


was this supposed to be some cute bm or was it actually congratulatory?
Ian Ian Ian
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
915 Posts
January 10 2010 00:35 GMT
#96
On January 10 2010 09:13 Jayme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 08:59 Order wrote:
IdrA[Media]:
Pretty good, I expected to win but he was playing pretty abusive strategies so I got a little nervous a few times throughout the series.



seriously, I can't believe his arrogance level


Cry a river, seriously.

I hate boring people that don't say what they actually feel. That's exactly why I like Idra... because he actually shows freaking emotion. Manner this and manner that gets so boring after awhile


This is also exactly why Idra has no friends

Imo Idra's the crybaby, not gg'ing every time he loses. Lol, gotta question how some people were raised.

And to give an arrogant interview after that is just sad. I can't believe Nony took that shit and then congratulated him, that takes character.
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
January 10 2010 00:39 GMT
#97
On January 10 2010 09:23 Kaniol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 09:13 Jayme wrote:
On January 10 2010 08:59 Order wrote:
IdrA[Media]:
Pretty good, I expected to win but he was playing pretty abusive strategies so I got a little nervous a few times throughout the series.



seriously, I can't believe his arrogance level


Cry a river, seriously.

I hate boring people that don't say what they actually feel. That's exactly why I like Idra... because he actually shows freaking emotion. Manner this and manner that gets so boring after awhile

Problem is not in saying what you feel but in saying what you feel in redneckish way, you can say "he played like shit" and you can say "well, his play wasn't as good as it could be". Guess which one is nicer?


Neither is. The 2nd one is pretty much a straight faced patronizing comment that would annoy me more than someone plain telling me I played like absolute crap.

On January 10 2010 09:35 Ian Ian Ian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 09:13 Jayme wrote:
On January 10 2010 08:59 Order wrote:
IdrA[Media]:
Pretty good, I expected to win but he was playing pretty abusive strategies so I got a little nervous a few times throughout the series.



seriously, I can't believe his arrogance level


Cry a river, seriously.

I hate boring people that don't say what they actually feel. That's exactly why I like Idra... because he actually shows freaking emotion. Manner this and manner that gets so boring after awhile


This is also exactly why Idra has no friends

Imo Idra's the crybaby, not gg'ing every time he loses. Lol, gotta question how some people were raised.

And to give an arrogant interview after that is just sad. I can't believe Nony took that shit and then congratulated him, that takes character.


I doubt he very much cares whether he has a lot of friends or no friends. It's not as if he's looking for friends within his fan base is it?

Nony and Idra have always bad mouthed each other, I mean really, this is NOTHING new.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24632 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 00:42:05
January 10 2010 00:41 GMT
#98
On January 10 2010 09:35 Ian Ian Ian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 09:13 Jayme wrote:
On January 10 2010 08:59 Order wrote:
IdrA[Media]:
Pretty good, I expected to win but he was playing pretty abusive strategies so I got a little nervous a few times throughout the series.



seriously, I can't believe his arrogance level


Cry a river, seriously.

I hate boring people that don't say what they actually feel. That's exactly why I like Idra... because he actually shows freaking emotion. Manner this and manner that gets so boring after awhile


This is also exactly why Idra has no friends
Lol who are you? You're completely wrong.

Don't shit up this thread with comments like that please.
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SoL[9]
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Portugal1370 Posts
January 10 2010 00:43 GMT
#99
Wedding???
Gratz i hope you do pass in groups gl
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GGQ
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Canada2653 Posts
January 10 2010 00:44 GMT
#100
On January 10 2010 09:32 kNyTTyM wrote:
Show nested quote +
You had to push so far, it was very impressive


was this supposed to be some cute bm or was it actually congratulatory?


bm

As IdrA mentioned in his interview, the push distance on that map was very short.
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
January 10 2010 00:44 GMT
#101
On January 10 2010 09:35 Ian Ian Ian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 09:13 Jayme wrote:
On January 10 2010 08:59 Order wrote:
IdrA[Media]:
Pretty good, I expected to win but he was playing pretty abusive strategies so I got a little nervous a few times throughout the series.



seriously, I can't believe his arrogance level


Cry a river, seriously.

I hate boring people that don't say what they actually feel. That's exactly why I like Idra... because he actually shows freaking emotion. Manner this and manner that gets so boring after awhile


This is also exactly why Idra has no friends

Imo Idra's the crybaby, not gg'ing every time he loses. Lol, gotta question how some people were raised.

And to give an arrogant interview after that is just sad. I can't believe Nony took that shit and then congratulated him, that takes character.


Agreed, Nony is a classy guy.
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
January 10 2010 00:46 GMT
#102
"Critical moment there was him building his nexus. Very well done by him."


hahahaha, classic.
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
January 10 2010 00:47 GMT
#103
I loved that turn into the second game with storms. Nony is 10/10!
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
January 10 2010 00:50 GMT
#104
wow, storms in game 2 gave me HUGE goosebumps
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blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
January 10 2010 00:52 GMT
#105
lol man you gotta love idra's quotes
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NonY
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
8748 Posts
January 10 2010 00:52 GMT
#106
On January 10 2010 09:35 Ian Ian Ian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 09:13 Jayme wrote:
On January 10 2010 08:59 Order wrote:
IdrA[Media]:
Pretty good, I expected to win but he was playing pretty abusive strategies so I got a little nervous a few times throughout the series.



seriously, I can't believe his arrogance level


Cry a river, seriously.

I hate boring people that don't say what they actually feel. That's exactly why I like Idra... because he actually shows freaking emotion. Manner this and manner that gets so boring after awhile


This is also exactly why Idra has no friends

i'm friends with idra :o
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Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 01:00:42
January 10 2010 00:56 GMT
#107
Omg Idra is such a fucking jerk... goddamnit... and that although he's NonY's friend if that wasn't pure sarcasm...

I hope someone will seriously wipe the floor with him this TSL. I'm looking forward to his silly excuses.
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FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11549 Posts
January 10 2010 00:59 GMT
#108
haha awesome move by the CJ coach :D
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PhOeniX[MinD]
Profile Joined August 2008
361 Posts
January 10 2010 01:00 GMT
#109
great games

i really hope Nony succed in Q3, gL.
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Entropic
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2837 Posts
January 10 2010 01:00 GMT
#110
People are getting too butthurt by Idra's comments... seriously. I don't see how they can induce so much rage for many people. I just see them as amusing and adds some spice to the SC scene.
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
January 10 2010 01:07 GMT
#111
On January 10 2010 10:00 Entropic wrote:
People are getting too butthurt by Idra's comments... seriously. I don't see how they can induce so much rage for many people. I just see them as amusing and adds some spice to the SC scene.


Yes lets take nothing serious, everything is a joke. >_>
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
January 10 2010 01:08 GMT
#112
Wow great series.. Both played really well and I even think Idra sort of acknowledges that nony did well in the interview Did not expect such close matches!
keV.
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States3214 Posts
January 10 2010 01:11 GMT
#113
Great interview! I thought the matches were the 16th for some reason =/ VODs will save me.
"brevity is the soul of wit" - William Shakesman
Piy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Scotland3152 Posts
January 10 2010 01:12 GMT
#114
On January 10 2010 08:39 ccou wrote:
O man, I can't believe I forgot about this. I think I was doing laundry or something as retarded. I'll have to watch the vods.

-Oberon


This made me laugh alot.

And Game 2 was painfully unbelievable.
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aeroH
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States1034 Posts
January 10 2010 01:16 GMT
#115
i wanted nony to win after his epic storms =/
Polygamy
Profile Joined January 2010
Austria1114 Posts
January 10 2010 01:21 GMT
#116
I feel like love or hate IdrA, its good for us all to support him as the only non Kor pro player...
XenOsky
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Chile2221 Posts
January 10 2010 01:24 GMT
#117
i wonder if idra reacts the same way when some korean nerd bashes him with high templars...
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BG1
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Canada1550 Posts
January 10 2010 01:24 GMT
#118
lol at the sensitive TLers.
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Xeofreestyler
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Belgium6767 Posts
January 10 2010 01:25 GMT
#119
On January 10 2010 10:07 Saturnize wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 10:00 Entropic wrote:
People are getting too butthurt by Idra's comments... seriously. I don't see how they can induce so much rage for many people. I just see them as amusing and adds some spice to the SC scene.


Yes lets take nothing serious, everything is a joke. >_>


interviews are serious business?
Graphics
Re-Play-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Dominican Republic825 Posts
January 10 2010 01:29 GMT
#120
joke
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 01:31:53
January 10 2010 01:30 GMT
#121
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RHoudini
Profile Joined October 2009
Belgium3627 Posts
January 10 2010 01:32 GMT
#122
On January 10 2010 06:43 niteReloaded wrote:
Am I the only one who is not really entertained by Idra's comments anymore?
It seems so childish.

+1.
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Neroin
Profile Joined March 2009
Germany173 Posts
January 10 2010 01:32 GMT
#123
Congratulations to Idra for winning and congratulations to Nony for showing an awesome series!

I love how the people at CJ are "interested but don't really care" when Idra plays in some "foreign tournaments" but when it's the TEAMLIQUID STARLEAGUE the coach tells him to practice instead of playing a ranking league and even gives him someone to practice with. Just awesome!
huameng
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States1133 Posts
January 10 2010 01:51 GMT
#124
Are the VODs going to be put on youtube soon? I can't download torrents here at school T_T
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G0dly
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States450 Posts
January 10 2010 01:52 GMT
#125
Ty to all the seeders on the torrent! I'm going to seed now =)
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nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
January 10 2010 01:54 GMT
#126
lol Europeans and their sense of humor =D
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Wr3k
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2533 Posts
January 10 2010 01:56 GMT
#127
On January 10 2010 10:24 BG1 wrote:
lol at the sensitive TLers.


Its just not entertaining anymore, and gives a bad name to foreign SC players.
intrudor
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada446 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 01:59:50
January 10 2010 01:59 GMT
#128
"Download the spoiler-free torrent here."

Thats true. Those are spoiler-free torrents because 5 videos are uploaded even though 4 games were needed in that best of 5. In this series, as Hot_Bid explains, the 5th video is deemed a "dummy" video because it's been carefully designed to hide the fact that the Bo5 didnt go to game 5. So really, for someone willing to watch the whole series, there's just no way to tell how many games were played and thats how the whole concept remains exciting at all points in time.. For instance, after the 3rd game, when Idra is in commands 2-1, the last two games are still surrounded by mystery. Is Nony going to pull some huge comeback? Or is Idra just gonna win game 4? The only little hitch is the fact that the aforementioned "dummy video" is 6 bytes in size.


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Ian Ian Ian
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
915 Posts
January 10 2010 02:11 GMT
#129
On January 10 2010 10:24 BG1 wrote:
lol at the sensitive TLers.


lol at the immature fanboys.

Learn to grow up and show some respect to your fellow competitors. Like really :/

When are people going to realize that having throwing a temper tantrum when you lose and bm when you win isn't cool..

Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2928 Posts
January 10 2010 02:17 GMT
#130
Idra and Nony both take the bm trash talk lightly; so should everyone else.

GL Nony and Idra, I'll be rooting for my fellow Americans in the TSL
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Matoo-
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
Canada1397 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 02:18:53
January 10 2010 02:17 GMT
#131
Can't believe Idra managed to create yet another shitstorm with a single interview. Haven't people got used to it already? It's been years seriously. And in this case it's even worse, did anyone read Nony's posts at all? Anyway go Idra and don't get eliminated too quickly please. :>

The stream was really nice as well, thanks TLnet!
Ian Ian Ian
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
915 Posts
January 10 2010 02:18 GMT
#132
On January 10 2010 11:17 Whiplash wrote:
Idra and Nony both take the bm trash talk lightly; so should everyone else.

GL Nony and Idra, I'll be rooting for my fellow Americans in the TSL


I can understand trash talk, but to be a dick like that in the interview is just un-called for and makes him look so un-professional
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
January 10 2010 02:25 GMT
#133
On January 10 2010 11:18 Ian Ian Ian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 11:17 Whiplash wrote:
Idra and Nony both take the bm trash talk lightly; so should everyone else.

GL Nony and Idra, I'll be rooting for my fellow Americans in the TSL


I can understand trash talk, but to be a dick like that in the interview is just un-called for and makes him look so un-professional


Not sugar-coating things while making jokes doesn't automatically make you a dick. It just means people who call you a dick are over-sensitive to comments that aren't even directed at them. Not like idra called your mom a stupid whore in the interview. He made jokes and didn't hold back.
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PeskyProbe
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom14 Posts
January 10 2010 02:32 GMT
#134
I dont think it is fair that Idra can act like he only lost that one game because of some imbalance, I am fairly sure even artosis said the maps actually were favoured to him. (the last three).
No doubt I am going to be called a "european without a sense of humour" but i mean even if i enjoyed bm it was hardly creative stuff, just leaving the game without gg, oooh inventive, i mean maybe a bm one liner would have been funny, but that leaving the game was just pointless, why he didnt acknowledge that Nony played well is a mystery.
Furthermore is it not fair that you use abusive builds occasionly? I thought the better players complained about imbalances less? All in all I am pretty annoyed that Idra has such a large advantage over the rest of competition, with playing in korea for over a year, surely that is imba?

It is a shame, Idra probably deserves to win since hes put the most work into it, but still he doesnt deserved to be respected for it if he cant be mature and type gg, it is very simple just 2 letters.
Basically grow up Idra, it is a game, if you are pissed gg and leave the game dont just leave the game it just creates unnecessary tension. If you feel you should have won, and then lose, deal with it. You are a big boy now (figuratively).

For anyone who thinks idra is just dandy, i think it is a fair assumption that a) you are american or b) you are a glory hunter. If you are in group a, fair enough nothing wrong with a sense of nationalism, but dont enable Idra to be bm just because you are proud that your countryman is the best (foreigner). And if you are b) maybe you should judge character before you say Idra's bm is "so fucking funny", I think you will agree he is just a small prick with an over inflated ego.

GG anyways.
Idra is a stereotype gaming should try to avoid, not embrace with both arms open.
nofAcedAgent
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States952 Posts
January 10 2010 02:32 GMT
#135
Great series, cheers to both the players.

I think one of the most pivotal moments in game 4 was actually when Nony sent 12+ zealots to deal with the 2 harrassing vultures at 7:00. Idra mentioned that in his interview, and it was obvious with the depot placements that he expected it. If he was able to hide his hand a little bit longer, perhaps things would have been different. But you can say that about anything i suppose..

ffswowsucks
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
Greece2294 Posts
January 10 2010 02:37 GMT
#136
I'm starting to like IdrA since he went to Korea, maybe Korea learn him some manners as well and in general to take things more lighty.
Terran in particular is a notoriously strong race for a no brain skillhand bot style.
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8552 Posts
January 10 2010 02:41 GMT
#137
You don't understand trash talk then.
Jaedong
nayumi
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Australia6499 Posts
January 10 2010 02:41 GMT
#138
On January 10 2010 11:32 PeskyProbe wrote:
I dont think it is fair that Idra can act like he only lost that one game because of some imbalance, I am fairly sure even artosis said the maps actually were favoured to him. (the last three).
No doubt I am going to be called a "european without a sense of humour" but i mean even if i enjoyed bm it was hardly creative stuff, just leaving the game without gg, oooh inventive, i mean maybe a bm one liner would have been funny, but that leaving the game was just pointless, why he didnt acknowledge that Nony played well is a mystery.
Furthermore is it not fair that you use abusive builds occasionly? I thought the better players complained about imbalances less? All in all I am pretty annoyed that Idra has such a large advantage over the rest of competition, with playing in korea for over a year, surely that is imba?

It is a shame, Idra probably deserves to win since hes put the most work into it, but still he doesnt deserved to be respected for it if he cant be mature and type gg, it is very simple just 2 letters.
Basically grow up Idra, it is a game, if you are pissed gg and leave the game dont just leave the game it just creates unnecessary tension. If you feel you should have won, and then lose, deal with it. You are a big boy now (figuratively).

For anyone who thinks idra is just dandy, i think it is a fair assumption that a) you are american or b) you are a glory hunter. If you are in group a, fair enough nothing wrong with a sense of nationalism, but dont enable Idra to be bm just because you are proud that your countryman is the best (foreigner). And if you are b) maybe you should judge character before you say Idra's bm is "so fucking funny", I think you will agree he is just a small prick with an over inflated ego.

GG anyways.

how about c) because Idra's BM realy makes things much better than they already are.

Now tell me, which battle report thread would you rather read:
1) One that is full of "omg nice game", "you two sounded like best friends!!! ^_^", "awesome sportsmanship", "both of you are winners in my book!!!!". *insert carebare pictures*

OR

2) HOLY FUCK THATS FUCKING RUDE!!! ... GFY IDRA YOU BM TWAT!!! ..... YOURE SUCH A DICK SOMETIMES .... LOL WAY TO GO IDRA, *insert Idra's random comment* LOL CLASSIC!!! .........

Iono about you guys, but imo since this is not a gentle men league so I would have to go for 2.
Sugoi monogatari onii-chan!
EchOne
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2906 Posts
January 10 2010 02:42 GMT
#139
On January 10 2010 10:59 intrudor wrote:
"Download the spoiler-free torrent here."

Thats true. Those are spoiler-free torrents because 5 videos are uploaded even though 4 games were needed in that best of 5. In this series, as Hot_Bid explains, the 5th video is deemed a "dummy" video because it's been carefully designed to hide the fact that the Bo5 didnt go to game 5. So really, for someone willing to watch the whole series, there's just no way to tell how many games were played and thats how the whole concept remains exciting at all points in time.. For instance, after the 3rd game, when Idra is in commands 2-1, the last two games are still surrounded by mystery. Is Nony going to pull some huge comeback? Or is Idra just gonna win game 4? The only little hitch is the fact that the aforementioned "dummy video" is 6 bytes in size.



What do you expect them to do, create a dummy file comprised of several megabytes of useless data? This is a waste of disk space, bandwidth, and peoples' time. I think they'd rather rely on people having the judgment not to check the file sizes. After all, tiny dummy files have been implemented for torrents of Korean series... for a while now.

Some torrent clients / file explorers will show you file sizes regardless, but that's just tough luck.
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PeskyProbe
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom14 Posts
January 10 2010 02:54 GMT
#140

how about c) because Idra's BM realy makes things much better than they already are.

Now tell me, which battle report thread would you rather read:
1) One that is full of "omg nice game", "you two sounded like best friends!!! ^_^", "awesome sportsmanship", "both of you are winners in my book!!!!". *insert carebare pictures*

OR

2) HOLY FUCK THATS FUCKING RUDE!!! ... GFY IDRA YOU BM TWAT!!! ..... YOURE SUCH A DICK SOMETIMES .... LOL WAY TO GO IDRA, *insert Idra's random comment* LOL CLASSIC!!! .........

Iono about you guys, but imo since this is not a gentle men league so I would have to go for 2.
[/QUOTE]

Ok first that is just not how a human being acts at all, for example, when you first meet people you do not be brutally honest, you do not say you are un-attractive little midget, no you say hello and greet them in a welcoming manner. Your two examples were gross hyperbole's the first one you made sound like a wet blanket, talking that is not how it would be. And the second one depicts everyone enjoying the bm which obv isnt true.

I agree humour is good, but he is our torch carrier he sets the example to the rest of the foreigner scene, and maybe a little bit of respect wouldnt hurt. And even if the other player doesnt mind doesnt mean i dont.

All i am saying, is a little maturity would be nice, even if you are going to be bm in your interview, you would still say he did the best he could with the practice availible, before the trash talking, so we know its all in good humour.
Idra is a stereotype gaming should try to avoid, not embrace with both arms open.
Ian Ian Ian
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
915 Posts
January 10 2010 02:58 GMT
#141
On January 10 2010 11:41 nayumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 11:32 PeskyProbe wrote:
I dont think it is fair that Idra can act like he only lost that one game because of some imbalance, I am fairly sure even artosis said the maps actually were favoured to him. (the last three).
No doubt I am going to be called a "european without a sense of humour" but i mean even if i enjoyed bm it was hardly creative stuff, just leaving the game without gg, oooh inventive, i mean maybe a bm one liner would have been funny, but that leaving the game was just pointless, why he didnt acknowledge that Nony played well is a mystery.
Furthermore is it not fair that you use abusive builds occasionly? I thought the better players complained about imbalances less? All in all I am pretty annoyed that Idra has such a large advantage over the rest of competition, with playing in korea for over a year, surely that is imba?

It is a shame, Idra probably deserves to win since hes put the most work into it, but still he doesnt deserved to be respected for it if he cant be mature and type gg, it is very simple just 2 letters.
Basically grow up Idra, it is a game, if you are pissed gg and leave the game dont just leave the game it just creates unnecessary tension. If you feel you should have won, and then lose, deal with it. You are a big boy now (figuratively).

For anyone who thinks idra is just dandy, i think it is a fair assumption that a) you are american or b) you are a glory hunter. If you are in group a, fair enough nothing wrong with a sense of nationalism, but dont enable Idra to be bm just because you are proud that your countryman is the best (foreigner). And if you are b) maybe you should judge character before you say Idra's bm is "so fucking funny", I think you will agree he is just a small prick with an over inflated ego.

GG anyways.

how about c) because Idra's BM realy makes things much better than they already are.

Now tell me, which battle report thread would you rather read:
1) One that is full of "omg nice game", "you two sounded like best friends!!! ^_^", "awesome sportsmanship", "both of you are winners in my book!!!!". *insert carebare pictures*

OR

2) HOLY FUCK THATS FUCKING RUDE!!! ... GFY IDRA YOU BM TWAT!!! ..... YOURE SUCH A DICK SOMETIMES .... LOL WAY TO GO IDRA, *insert Idra's random comment* LOL CLASSIC!!! .........

Iono about you guys, but imo since this is not a gentle men league so I would have to go for 2.


I'd rather see 1..

If progaming is going to become a recognized sport you have to realize you can't have immature kids like that acting like douchebags and expect people not to criticize him.

I don't understand how you can honestly defend someone who acts like such a prick like that. Totally beyond me. I really thought the average age of the forum wasn't thirteen. If your going to compete at a professional level you should be acting professional.
Gao Xi
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Hong Kong5178 Posts
January 10 2010 02:59 GMT
#142
If Idra doesn't win the TSL, wouldn't CJ be really pissed for wasting time? Cause it seems that they're going out of their way to help Idra.
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mmp
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2130 Posts
January 10 2010 03:04 GMT
#143
On January 10 2010 11:32 PeskyProbe wrote:
Furthermore is it not fair that you use abusive builds occasionly? I thought the better players complained about imbalances less? All in all I am pretty annoyed that Idra has such a large advantage over the rest of competition, with playing in korea for over a year, surely that is imba?

It is a shame, Idra probably deserves to win since hes put the most work into it, but still he doesnt deserved to be respected for it if he cant be mature and type gg, it is very simple just 2 letters.


Idra is the shit and you know it.
I (λ (foo) (and (<3 foo) ( T_T foo) (RAGE foo) )) Starcraft
LxRogue
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1415 Posts
January 10 2010 03:05 GMT
#144
I think a lot of TLers and a lot of SC fans in general have just looked the other way at IdrA, hoping that he would eventually grow up and maybe show some respect or maturity, if not humility.

IMO, he's a massive embarrassment for American SC. He's been playing for years and still acts like a 12-year-old on xbox live when he has to face other humans.
errol1001
Profile Joined April 2008
454 Posts
January 10 2010 03:12 GMT
#145
On January 10 2010 12:05 LxRogue wrote:
I think a lot of TLers and a lot of SC fans in general have just looked the other way at IdrA, hoping that he would eventually grow up and maybe show some respect or maturity, if not humility.

IMO, he's a massive embarrassment for American SC. He's been playing for years and still acts like a 12-year-old on xbox live when he has to face other humans.


I question whether you actually play on xbox live with that statement.. And an embarrassment would be if he didn't get this good with his time spent in korea. Not putting on a facade in interviews, and showing some personality... not as far as I'm concerned.

I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
January 10 2010 03:14 GMT
#146
On January 10 2010 11:58 Ian Ian Ian wrote:
If progaming is going to become a recognized sport you have to realize you can't have immature kids like that acting like douchebags and expect people not to criticize him.


Professional sports are filled with people who make jokes and complain. They're the people who get paid even more because they put fans in the stands and can make story lines for games interesting rather than just the games themselves. Boring personalities and stock answers are just that; boring.
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errol1001
Profile Joined April 2008
454 Posts
January 10 2010 03:14 GMT
#147
On January 10 2010 11:59 Gao Xi wrote:
If Idra doesn't win the TSL, wouldn't CJ be really pissed for wasting time? Cause it seems that they're going out of their way to help Idra.


No, it would be rather short-sighted to consider practicing a waste of time whenever it doesn't result in a first place finish.
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
January 10 2010 03:16 GMT
#148
How is it that people are still getting offended by Idra's antics?
May the BeSt man win.
Ian Ian Ian
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
915 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 03:20:11
January 10 2010 03:18 GMT
#149
On January 10 2010 12:14 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 11:58 Ian Ian Ian wrote:
If progaming is going to become a recognized sport you have to realize you can't have immature kids like that acting like douchebags and expect people not to criticize him.


Professional sports are filled with people who make jokes and complain. They're the people who get paid even more because they put fans in the stands and can make story lines for games interesting rather than just the games themselves. Boring personalities and stock answers are just that; boring.


When you actually participate in a professional sport you'd understand. Players like that are looked down upon so much.

Attitude problems and immaturity are not cool, and usually once people grow up, they realize this.

I'm not saying that people don't like the drama, they do. But it's still fucking sad as hell to see. I'm watching thesport to watch the sport, I could care less about the drama. Go watch the hills please :/
Nal_rAwr
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2611 Posts
January 10 2010 03:19 GMT
#150
On January 10 2010 06:14 Kennigit wrote:
Show nested quote +
IdrA[Media]:
I didn't intend to prepare at all since we had a ranking league yesterday but my coach knew about my match and he actually told me not to play the league and just practice for tsl instead, even had (P)invade[fOu] skip the league as well to help. So I just practiced with him.


This made me smile . Pretty awesome that CJ is taking this seriously.

i'd hardly call leaving behind a noobtoss that nobody has heard of (who is 3-13 in prelims and minors)
"taking it seriously" xD
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CTStalker
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada9720 Posts
January 10 2010 03:20 GMT
#151
man. nony's storms in game 2 were great
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I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
January 10 2010 03:21 GMT
#152
[B]On January 10 2010 12:18 Ian Ian Ian wrote:[/B

When you actually participate in a professional sport you'd understand. Players like that are looked down upon so much.

Attitude problems and immaturity are not cool, and usually once people grow up, they realize this.

I'm not saying that people don't like the drama, they do. But it's still fucking sad as hell to see


What's that? Create a straw man argue based around an assumption? There's a shocker.

I'm not speaking from the stance of a participant in the activity; I'm speaking as a spectator. I want to be entertained and amused when I'm watching a sport or e-sport. Personalities make the game more interesting and a bunch of fucking robotic answers coming out of people that are lying through their teeth to pretend to be nice or not angry makes for bad entertainment.

People who complain about this crap are the same people who complained about end zone dances in the NFL and ruined it for everybody else.
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iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
January 10 2010 03:24 GMT
#153
i dont know why anyone is offended by this, its not like idra is going to bm in pro games
besides its pretty obvious hes kind of kidding around in this interview
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 03:27:48
January 10 2010 03:26 GMT
#154
On January 10 2010 12:19 Nal_rAwr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 06:14 Kennigit wrote:
IdrA[Media]:
I didn't intend to prepare at all since we had a ranking league yesterday but my coach knew about my match and he actually told me not to play the league and just practice for tsl instead, even had (P)invade[fOu] skip the league as well to help. So I just practiced with him.


This made me smile . Pretty awesome that CJ is taking this seriously.

i'd hardly call leaving behind a noobtoss that nobody has heard of (who is 3-13 in prelims and minors)
"taking it seriously" xD


Lol?

It's a huge deal they acknowledge it and make accommodations for him.

Artosis mentioned it during the cast and I wondered if I heard correctly... I was in disbelief CJ would do something like this for a foreigner for a completely foreign event. It shows CJ really cares about Idra and him doing well in TSL.

We all heard horror stories of Ret's brief time on Estro with hostilities/problems towards teammates or not getting many games in house. And Idra's early days in Korea where he just massed on iccup cuz nobody in the house would play him... It's quite amazing CJ recognizes Idra in this way and to actually be told to skip a league for TSL is quite amazing and means alot.

It's really encouraging for me to hear news like this and you sit there trivializing it stupidly.
Ian Ian Ian
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
915 Posts
January 10 2010 03:27 GMT
#155
On January 10 2010 12:21 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
[B]On January 10 2010 12:18 Ian Ian Ian wrote:[/B

When you actually participate in a professional sport you'd understand. Players like that are looked down upon so much.

Attitude problems and immaturity are not cool, and usually once people grow up, they realize this.

I'm not saying that people don't like the drama, they do. But it's still fucking sad as hell to see


What's that? Create a straw man argue based around an assumption? There's a shocker.

I'm not speaking from the stance of a participant in the activity; I'm speaking as a spectator. I want to be entertained and amused when I'm watching a sport or e-sport. Personalities make the game more interesting and a bunch of fucking robotic answers coming out of people that are lying through their teeth to pretend to be nice or not angry makes for bad entertainment.

People who complain about this crap are the same people who complained about end zone dances in the NFL and ruined it for everybody else.


You really shouldn't be watching starcraft games and expecting to be entertained by some sweet drama llama action.

I guess it's just a difference in taste. I see this stuff and think wow, act less like a 10 year old please. You see it and think hilarious. w/e

"What's that? Create a straw man argue based around an assumption? There's a shocker." -Don't even know what your trying to say here.
errol1001
Profile Joined April 2008
454 Posts
January 10 2010 03:29 GMT
#156
On January 10 2010 12:24 iamho wrote:
i dont know why anyone is offended by this, its not like idra is going to bm in pro games
besides its pretty obvious hes kind of kidding around in this interview


It's absurd to get offended by two friends acting like friends..
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
January 10 2010 03:33 GMT
#157
On January 10 2010 12:27 Ian Ian Ian wrote:You really shouldn't be watching starcraft games and expecting to be entertained by some sweet drama llama action.

I guess it's just a difference in taste. I see this stuff and think wow, act less like a 10 year old please. You see it and think hilarious. w/e

"What's that? Create a straw man argue based around an assumption? There's a shocker." -Don't even know what your trying to say here.


I don't watch starcraft expecting, demanding, or anticipating drama. It's like doing the laundry and finding a $20 in one of the pockets. I wasn't looking for it but I'll be damned if I'm not happy I found it. For the record: I don't find Idra hilarious. I think his antics are often times amusing and give an otherwise boring interview something interesting.

A straw man argument is creating an argument against a position I don't actually hold or believe it. Your argument being that I don't compete in professional games or sports of anykind. This is a false assumption which you attempted to use.
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alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
January 10 2010 03:44 GMT
#158
lololol nice interview rofl.
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tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
January 10 2010 03:54 GMT
#159
Oh QQ, everyone, great (T)(us)IdrA interview, and clearly in good humor.

Congrats on the win, and congrats to (P)(us)NonY as well for his play.
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LxRogue
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States1415 Posts
January 10 2010 03:57 GMT
#160
On January 10 2010 12:12 errol1001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 12:05 LxRogue wrote:
I think a lot of TLers and a lot of SC fans in general have just looked the other way at IdrA, hoping that he would eventually grow up and maybe show some respect or maturity, if not humility.

IMO, he's a massive embarrassment for American SC. He's been playing for years and still acts like a 12-year-old on xbox live when he has to face other humans.


I question whether you actually play on xbox live with that statement.. And an embarrassment would be if he didn't get this good with his time spent in korea. Not putting on a facade in interviews, and showing some personality... not as far as I'm concerned.



I am only saying that he is immature. He's not "putting on a show" or just trolling, he is flat out immature and unsportsmanlike. It's obvious to anyone watching that he isn't trying to entertain, he just can't control his temper. There's nothing wrong with trash talk or hype or personality, but I have never so much as seen IdrA be respectful to a single opponent.

I don't deny the he has gotten better in Korea, It's just sad that the lone representative of foreign starcraft can't even say "GG".
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
January 10 2010 04:04 GMT
#161
LOL AT THE PEOPLE CRYING BECAUSE OF IDRA BM'ING.

Seriously, be happy you guys get to watch the TSL, and stop bitching about Idra. No one cares.
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Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
January 10 2010 04:09 GMT
#162
On January 10 2010 13:04 HazMat wrote:
LOL AT THE PEOPLE CRYING BECAUSE OF IDRA BM'ING.

Seriously, be happy you guys get to watch the TSL, and stop bitching about Idra. No one cares.


ummmm wrong, without Idra's idiocy this wouldn't be interesting at all to me
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Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 10 2010 04:10 GMT
#163
What the fuck? The last thing we need is bland, stereotypical korean interviews (-_-). Just enjoy idra's funny comments. At least he injects humor into his interviews
Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3097 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 04:17:30
January 10 2010 04:14 GMT
#164
I am only saying that he is immature. He's not "putting on a show" or just trolling, he is flat out immature and unsportsmanlike. It's obvious to anyone watching that he isn't trying to entertain, he just can't control his temper. There's nothing wrong with trash talk or hype or personality, but I have never so much as seen IdrA be respectful to a single opponent.

I don't deny the he has gotten better in Korea, It's just sad that the lone representative of foreign starcraft can't even say "GG".


This. Idra is a very good player. I respect him for that. However, I really, really, really wish he'd get his act together in this regard.

I mean, it's not like the only alternative to being a jerk is giving flat, Korean "I practiced this build a lot, and it worked so I'm happy. I hope to show good performances in upcoming games. Thanks to (Z)n.die.SoO for helping me practice." One can show personality and be entertaining in other ways than being a poor sport and badmouthing anyone who beats you. If you don't believe me, just look at Stork, or even Nony.

Because the Idra BM thing is just really, really getting old. It was funny and kind of cute at first, but now that Idra is the unquestioned best foreigner in the world and thus the most visible figure in foreign Starcraft...well, now it's just embarrassing.

I really do wish all the best to Idra, though, and I'd love to be able to give my full, 100% support to him as he plows his awesome Nerdish way through professional Starcraft. But until he can grow up a bit and stop this childish nonsense, I'm not going to be able to do that.
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zergpower123
Profile Joined December 2009
United States197 Posts
January 10 2010 04:21 GMT
#165
Just read the interview, Idra showed respect for Nony which was great, in fact I didn't sense any BM in the interview. Props to Idra for that unless I am missed something that everyone is getting angry about.
Sc2ggRise
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States607 Posts
January 10 2010 04:25 GMT
#166
GG!
Random_0
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1163 Posts
January 10 2010 04:35 GMT
#167
Don't you think Idra would win more if he mixed up his play a little? I mean, 1 fac cc every time?
viewer
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada662 Posts
January 10 2010 04:40 GMT
#168
Good job Idra.
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 04:45:17
January 10 2010 04:40 GMT
#169
Haha Idra there is one thing that I enjoy more than seeing you play and kick ass, and that is seeing you give an interview. ^_^' Of course reading the obligatory ridiculous hate posts of people that feel the need to vent their hate every time the name Idra pops up is also amusing.
Also gratz to Nony for putting up a good fight considering his practice time and being a good sport in general, the bm in jest was very enjoyable.
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Astrogation
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States477 Posts
January 10 2010 04:53 GMT
#170
I enjoy seeing how Idra flamers spend paragraphs justifying their hatred towards him as if think they are contributing to this interview discussion or that sensible people actually care.
machinehead..
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
412 Posts
January 10 2010 05:07 GMT
#171
I feel like there are some "unfair" things in pvt and when I use them I think of them as "abusive" things. If your goal is to win games you are always trying to abuse the advantage you feel your race has over theirs. I wouldn't call it bm, but rather indifference in articulating the same concept in a way that will appease more people. You are not going to please everyone no matter what you do, so it's not a big deal to begin with.
R4ptur3d
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada206 Posts
January 10 2010 05:08 GMT
#172
im Happy for Idra and that CJ is taking this seriously I mean it is alot of money
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 05:18:38
January 10 2010 05:18 GMT
#173
Idra was never BM towards Nony in this interview, he showed his hatred towards 13 nexus but that's nothing new. I don't know why all the hate comments about Idra are in this particular thread.

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SiDX
Profile Joined July 2009
New Zealand1975 Posts
January 10 2010 05:20 GMT
#174
great series. great play by both.
MasterDana
Profile Joined March 2008
United States114 Posts
January 10 2010 05:40 GMT
#175
Well played Idra!
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grobo
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Japan6199 Posts
January 10 2010 05:49 GMT
#176
Nice interview!
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zerglingsfolife
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1694 Posts
January 10 2010 05:53 GMT
#177
Come on guys, without personality Combat Ex - Chill would have been just another series.

It's good for the game.
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JohnColtrane
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Australia4813 Posts
January 10 2010 06:02 GMT
#178
omg the interview was great haha

thanks guys
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JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
January 10 2010 06:17 GMT
#179
On January 10 2010 13:35 Random_0 wrote:
Don't you think Idra would win more if he mixed up his play a little? I mean, 1 fac cc every time?

nope…you've got to realize, his winrate against foreigners with this build is probably around 90%.
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Invictus
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Singapore2697 Posts
January 10 2010 06:37 GMT
#180
I don't get all the nerdrage about idra lolol. Why don't everyone just chill and just sit back and enjoy the games he gives us with some popcorn and a drink to go? Simplifies things so much.
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Sigh
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada2433 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 06:41:21
January 10 2010 06:40 GMT
#181
" he decided to get a free win by going double nexus on andro" LOL amazing interview.
Glad NonY took at least one game off Idra!
Congratz IdrA!
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Kaolla
Profile Joined January 2003
China2999 Posts
January 10 2010 06:59 GMT
#182
quite funny interview...
respect to idra hehe
its me
Jaksiel
Profile Joined November 2008
United States4130 Posts
January 10 2010 07:06 GMT
#183
I love how Nony has posted that he and Idra are friends and they trash talk each other, yet Idra is the evil one and Nony is a saint.
Zero fighting.
crate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2474 Posts
January 10 2010 07:07 GMT
#184
Entertaining series, congrats on the win IdrA, you deserved it with how well you played.

Nice try from NonY, otherworldly storms in game 2, but IdrA just outclassed him.

I didn't really find the interview particularly entertaining or noteworthy tbh, and I don't really consider leaving game 2 without saying "gg" a cardinal sin or anything. Not like IdrA was building bm CCs and calling NonY a "fucking skilless newbie".
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Harem
Profile Joined November 2007
United States11390 Posts
January 10 2010 07:08 GMT
#185
On January 10 2010 16:06 Jaksiel wrote:
I love how Nony has posted that he and Idra are friends and they trash talk each other, yet Idra is the evil one and Nony is a saint.

In a similar line of thought, people lambast Idra for not gg'ing when Nony himself is well known to do the same thing.

Awesome interview though.
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Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
January 10 2010 07:19 GMT
#186
On January 10 2010 10:30 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
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Sexiest DL Speed <3


Wow the fastest i've ever had on one torrent was 1.7 MB
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da_head
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada3350 Posts
January 10 2010 07:30 GMT
#187
idra's a joker. even though i was cheering for my fellow toss, i didn't mind that idra won. he played well and deserved the win.
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StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
January 10 2010 07:39 GMT
#188
Building a nexus is a very good talent toi have!

On a more serious note. The games were really nice. You could see that Nony purposely tried to play a macro game and use strange timings to catch Idra off guard.
Psyqo
Profile Joined November 2007
United States401 Posts
January 10 2010 07:51 GMT
#189
Amazing series. Very good casts and VODs too.
gbglass
Profile Joined December 2009
Sweden29 Posts
January 10 2010 07:59 GMT
#190
gg

Unrelated question is there more vods on the torrent tracker with english commentators?
God hates Sweden
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
January 10 2010 08:22 GMT
#191
On January 10 2010 06:18 intrigue wrote:
another reason why cj is awesome. was invade annoyed at all?


I'd assume he was pissed as fuck lol
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
January 10 2010 08:26 GMT
#192
The day IdrA stops being honest is the day I stop caring about foreign SC.
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jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
January 10 2010 08:30 GMT
#193
On January 10 2010 17:22 GreEny K wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 06:18 intrigue wrote:
another reason why cj is awesome. was invade annoyed at all?


I'd assume he was pissed as fuck lol


punishment for losing pretty much every dream league game he plays in i imagine
number1gog
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1081 Posts
January 10 2010 08:45 GMT
#194
My take on this thread:

Idra and Nony: "We're really good at Starcraft, and it's fun to talk shit. GGs."
Everyone reading the thread: "I'm nowhere near as good as these guys as Starcraft, but OMG Idra so BM rage rage rage."

Grow up guys. It's obvious Idra has a ton of respect for Nony. Take it as good natured ribbing between to friends.
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Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
January 10 2010 08:46 GMT
#195
Which was the moment he went 750APM? xD

"You could fry an egg on his head"
Revolutionist fan
Probe.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States877 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 08:55:21
January 10 2010 08:54 GMT
#196
Great games and funny interview. IdrA deserved to win those games he played better overall. It's great to see that Nony is in really good shape still and i expect him to make it far in this TSL. Im hoping they meet again for another epic B05.

GL Idra and GL Nony in the rest of TSL2.

Rooting for Nony though
meow
stevethemacguy
Profile Joined September 2008
United States137 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 08:57:59
January 10 2010 08:55 GMT
#197
On January 10 2010 08:00 Liquid`NonY wrote:
without making any excuses, allow me to publish my recent schedule:
fall semester finals dec 8-12
travel home, visit family dec 13-17
wedding-related activities dec 18-20
honeymoon in hawaii dec 21-31
oh shit i have to play idra jan 1-7
play idra jan 8

i'll be playing better for Q3, and even better for the TSL


Well you played great for such a tough schedule. A lucky* scv transfer saved Idra from a game 5 imo. Don't worry, you'll have another chance in the finals! (assuming, no "cheesy newbs" beat Idra before then). Thanks for the entertaining games. NonY Fighting!!

EDIT: *though to be fair, that was very quick thinking on Idra's part to use those scvs to block, nice play
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johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2227 Posts
January 10 2010 09:07 GMT
#198
TSL inevitably brings influx of low-post-count users bitching about idra being BM. I missed that actually .
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
January 10 2010 09:16 GMT
#199
Hey does anyone know what a "ranking league" is?

And can anyone link me to where Cloud "is getting all butthurt about it on the forums" I'd like to have a laugh and follow the drama

thanks!
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Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
January 10 2010 09:42 GMT
#200
but then he made some units that kill everything and I lost

I find it funny :D
Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
January 10 2010 09:44 GMT
#201
On January 10 2010 09:52 Liquid`NonY wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 09:35 Ian Ian Ian wrote:
On January 10 2010 09:13 Jayme wrote:
On January 10 2010 08:59 Order wrote:
IdrA[Media]:
Pretty good, I expected to win but he was playing pretty abusive strategies so I got a little nervous a few times throughout the series.



seriously, I can't believe his arrogance level


Cry a river, seriously.

I hate boring people that don't say what they actually feel. That's exactly why I like Idra... because he actually shows freaking emotion. Manner this and manner that gets so boring after awhile


This is also exactly why Idra has no friends

i'm friends with idra :o


haha I don't understand why people bother to post all these stupid repetitive comments about idra's attitude. Everyone wants to sit there and defend nony by getting furious over idra's behaviour and not only doesn't the guy care they're actually friends. You just make this thread boring, for every decent comment about how much the games rocked there's endless tears because ppl can't get over that idra has some attitude. You don't like it, fine, make a blog! and then u can all comment in the blog and congratulate yourselves on how much more mature and lovable you are than idra
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Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
January 10 2010 09:53 GMT
#202
i beg to differ, the people whining about idra's bm actually make the thread more entertaining
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bitchaRd[raGe]
Profile Joined August 2008
Russian Federation376 Posts
January 10 2010 10:11 GMT
#203
such a douchebag
SKT1!
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
January 10 2010 10:21 GMT
#204
What is with all these low post idiots whining about Idra bm.
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ilbh
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Brazil1606 Posts
January 10 2010 10:26 GMT
#205
Can someone explain me what did nony mean with his last phrase?

"You had to push so far, it was very impressive"

english is not my mother language... so, please... thanks in advance.
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johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2227 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 10:41:56
January 10 2010 10:39 GMT
#206
On January 10 2010 19:26 ilbh wrote:
Can someone explain me what did nony mean with his last phrase?

"You had to push so far, it was very impressive"

english is not my mother language... so, please... thanks in advance.

It was irony, little friendly BM from Nony (The push distance was actually pretty small, that means great advantage for terran)
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 10:45:01
January 10 2010 10:44 GMT
#207
All the people calling us douches because we're complaining about Idra's BM don't realize that he's the pussy by actually BMing all the time. He just can't take losses like a man and every time he opens his mouth he has to brag about how he's better than anyone else etc. That's just idiotic, unprofessional and not entertaining at all.

The only thing that's funny, but in a pathetic way, is how his analysis of the games he lost is always the same. "Well XXX secured a totally imba unbeatable early advantage by abusing this and that. After that I won EVERY BATTLE, my harassment was better, I totally wiped the floor with him, but then he just did this and that and he won. Congratz to him for being a cheesy zero skill bitch"
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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4719 Posts
January 10 2010 11:43 GMT
#208
That was a nice series. Wished Nony would have hidden the Stargates on Destination better, could have become a closer match then. And the Storms in game 2 were awesome.

Really, really entertaining Bo5. Good luck to both in the TSL.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Sad[Panda]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States458 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 11:57:17
January 10 2010 11:50 GMT
#209
Jesus christ I really dont understand how anyone can still bitch about idra t.t; when i first started following foreigners sure I didn't like him but at one point I said oh well hes fucking idra what the hell? Amirite? Its not like it fucking matters at this point I think he does most of it just to keep up the image and even if he BM's in a foreign tournament its not like he can really BM in Korea like a few of you infer that he would, due to language barriers and rules against it its pretty much impossible if he wants to stay there. Not to mention personally I find the glass half empty outlook to be great to do well in a competitive scene if you take second place you still lose meaning you still have to improve somewhere and have something to prove and even if he makes stupid outward remarks like this its PAINFULLY obvious that hes been doing just that in korea improving and proving to everyone that hes not wasting his time if you dont like him suck it up imo its starcraft he plays well what else do you need ignore his remarks and just watch him play.

@Lol at nony saying "i'm friends with idra :o" 6 pages in just to have another 5 more pages of rage ensue rofl

Edit: oh right derailed rofl

Game 2 storms gave me a hardon

Game 1's perfect play by Idra was rediculously amazing to me

Game 4 was so nailbiting baller that I thought that was a good game to go out on

I liked the rub it in manner pylons and gas steals too :D
( O.O) ("\(t.t )/") ~ I'm just looking for someone to hug
Korean-MILF
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Norway65 Posts
January 10 2010 11:58 GMT
#210
[QUOTE]On January 10 2010 16:07 crate wrote:

Nice try from NonY, otherworldly storms in game 2, but IdrA just outclassed him.

It`s fair enough that he won, but outclassed? I think Nony outclassed Idra in the game at Andro, and the game on Tornado was just a random maynard away from Nony taking another game imo. If Nony practices more until next time, I think he will face Idra in the finals, and if he plays straight up like he did on Andro and Tornado, i have no doubt that he can win the entire thing.
MistrZZZ momma is so fat even boxer cant micro her
TeWy
Profile Joined December 2009
France714 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 12:05:42
January 10 2010 12:01 GMT
#211
Idra obviously is a narcissist perverse.
He feels superior, omnipotent, omniscient, invincible, immune, above any kind of moral laws.

The reason why he doesn't type GG or show respect to his opponent after losing is that his ego doesn't permit him to consider his loses.
Sure he probably isn't enough fucked up to completly distort the reality and consider that they litteraly didn't happen, but he will always be firmly convinced that they were due to some kind of out of control imbalances/random factors/cheesy strats, that there was almost nothing in his power that he could have done. Just look at his post G5 match interview.
It's only after a win that he will try to act funny, and you will probably never hord a single self-mockery from his mouth, only condescending mockeries toward his opponent.

Of course he knows how to hide the worse parts of his pathological behaviour, but what we can hord/see of him is enough.
Korean-MILF
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Norway65 Posts
January 10 2010 12:02 GMT
#212
On January 10 2010 19:44 Mooncat wrote:

The only thing that's funny, but in a pathetic way, is how his analysis of the games he lost is always the same. "Well XXX secured a totally imba unbeatable early advantage by abusing this and that. After that I won EVERY BATTLE, my harassment was better, I totally wiped the floor with him, but then he just did this and that and he won. Congratz to him for being a cheesy zero skill bitch"


Hahahaha sooooo true Made my day
MistrZZZ momma is so fat even boxer cant micro her
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2227 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 12:10:59
January 10 2010 12:10 GMT
#213
On January 10 2010 20:58 Korean-MILF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 16:07 crate wrote:

Nice try from NonY, otherworldly storms in game 2, but IdrA just outclassed him.
.

It`s fair enough that he won, but outclassed? I think Nony outclassed Idra in the game at Andro, and the game on Tornado was just a random maynard away from Nony taking another game imo. If Nony practices more until next time, I think he will face Idra in the finals, and if he plays straight up like he did on Andro and Tornado, i have no doubt that he can win the entire thing.

Sorry, but you probably watched different series, even in second game Nony was massively behind, but then clutch storms saved him. Idras play is on another level.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
January 10 2010 12:13 GMT
#214
Some of these comments are just hilarious. You're actually gonna psycho-analyze the guy now? How pathetically insecure do you have to be to get butthurt over a few unsympathetic comments?

I'm gonna analyze you now. You're whole life you do stuff just because you're told to. You don't think for yourself you just follow because you're too scared to stand out of be unique. Being a sheep makes you feel security and without that you're lost. Then some guy on the internet comes along and start saying stuff that you're not used to.... "OMG this guy doesn't use manners like I'm used to; I can't handle this". So then you go and channel you're rage into some bullshit explanation about how he's fucked up but you're just so together because you understand manners which is all the world is about right?
The truth is an intelligent person understands that actually manners don't really mean anything. They are a way of getting along with people... but what if you don't actually CARE whether people like you or not. In fact maybe you'd rather people who just blindly follow rules DON'T like you, because they're too stupid to be friends with anyway.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2227 Posts
January 10 2010 12:14 GMT
#215
On January 10 2010 21:01 TeWy wrote:
Idra obviously is a narcissist perverse.
He feels superior, omnipotent, omniscient, invincible, immune, above any kind of moral laws.

The reason why he doesn't type GG or show respect to his opponent after losing is that his ego doesn't permit him to consider his loses.
Sure he probably isn't enough fucked up to completly distort the reality and consider that they litteraly didn't happen, but he will always be firmly convinced that they were due to some kind of out of control imbalances/random factors/cheesy strats, that there was almost nothing in his power that he could have done. Just look at his post G5 match interview.
It's only after a win that he will try to act funny, and you will probably never hord a single self-mockery from his mouth, only condescending mockeries toward his opponent.

Of course he knows how to hide the worse parts of his pathological behaviour, but what we can hord/see of him is enough.

Are you serious? Why do you feel the need to use such strong words about person, u don't even know IRL. What is your problem?
Sad[Panda]
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States458 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 12:19:38
January 10 2010 12:18 GMT
#216
On January 10 2010 21:01 TeWy wrote:
Idra obviously is a narcissist perverse.
He feels superior, omnipotent, omniscient, invincible, immune, above any kind of moral laws.


The reason why he doesn't type GG or show respect to his opponent after losing is that his ego doesn't permit him to consider his loses.
Sure he probably isn't enough fucked up to completly distort the reality and consider that they litteraly didn't happen, but he will always be firmly convinced that they were due to some kind of out of control imbalances/random factors/cheesy strats, that there was almost nothing in his power that he could have done. Just look at his post G5 match interview.
It's only after a win that he will try to act funny, and you will probably never hord a single self-mockery from his mouth, only condescending mockeries toward his opponent.

Of course he knows how to hide the worse parts of his pathological behaviour, but what we can hord/see of him is enough.

On January 10 2010 21:14 johanes wrote:
Are you serious? Why do you feel the need to use such strong words about person, u don't even know IRL. What is your problem?


I wonder if he realizes that all of these words he used to describe idra can also be used to describe him just because of this post . . .
( O.O) ("\(t.t )/") ~ I'm just looking for someone to hug
Lovin
Profile Joined May 2009
Denmark812 Posts
January 10 2010 12:22 GMT
#217
IdrA's interview skillz r furreal! AngryMan Hwaiting!
AKA SuddenSalad
TeWy
Profile Joined December 2009
France714 Posts
January 10 2010 12:23 GMT
#218
On January 10 2010 21:14 johanes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 21:01 TeWy wrote:
Idra obviously is a narcissist perverse.
He feels superior, omnipotent, omniscient, invincible, immune, above any kind of moral laws.

The reason why he doesn't type GG or show respect to his opponent after losing is that his ego doesn't permit him to consider his loses.
Sure he probably isn't enough fucked up to completly distort the reality and consider that they litteraly didn't happen, but he will always be firmly convinced that they were due to some kind of out of control imbalances/random factors/cheesy strats, that there was almost nothing in his power that he could have done. Just look at his post G5 match interview.
It's only after a win that he will try to act funny, and you will probably never hord a single self-mockery from his mouth, only condescending mockeries toward his opponent.

Of course he knows how to hide the worse parts of his pathological behaviour, but what we can hord/see of him is enough.

Are you serious? Why do you feel the need to use such strong words about person, u don't even know IRL. What is your problem?


Since my older brother is a sociopath, I've always been very interested in Psychology.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
January 10 2010 12:29 GMT
#219
On January 10 2010 21:23 TeWy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 21:14 johanes wrote:
On January 10 2010 21:01 TeWy wrote:
Idra obviously is a narcissist perverse.
He feels superior, omnipotent, omniscient, invincible, immune, above any kind of moral laws.

The reason why he doesn't type GG or show respect to his opponent after losing is that his ego doesn't permit him to consider his loses.
Sure he probably isn't enough fucked up to completly distort the reality and consider that they litteraly didn't happen, but he will always be firmly convinced that they were due to some kind of out of control imbalances/random factors/cheesy strats, that there was almost nothing in his power that he could have done. Just look at his post G5 match interview.
It's only after a win that he will try to act funny, and you will probably never hord a single self-mockery from his mouth, only condescending mockeries toward his opponent.

Of course he knows how to hide the worse parts of his pathological behaviour, but what we can hord/see of him is enough.

Are you serious? Why do you feel the need to use such strong words about person, u don't even know IRL. What is your problem?


Since my older brother is a sociopath, I've always been very interested in Psychology.

That doesn't give you the right to be an idiot. Idra is not a narcissist perverse.
Possibly he has an Asperger personality (which is a difference, not a weakness) but that's about it.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
selboN
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States2523 Posts
January 10 2010 12:29 GMT
#220
Great interview, love how he will actually tell us what he thinks, not just a "politically correct" retort.
"That's what happens when you're using a mouse made out of glass!" -Tasteless (Referring to ZergBong)
TeWy
Profile Joined December 2009
France714 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 12:33:41
January 10 2010 12:30 GMT
#221
On January 10 2010 21:13 Klive5ive wrote:
Some of these comments are just hilarious. You're actually gonna psycho-analyze the guy now? How pathetically insecure do you have to be to get butthurt over a few unsympathetic comments?

I'm gonna analyze you now. You're whole life you do stuff just because you're told to. You don't think for yourself you just follow because you're too scared to stand out of be unique. Being a sheep makes you feel security and without that you're lost. Then some guy on the internet comes along and start saying stuff that you're not used to.... "OMG this guy doesn't use manners like I'm used to; I can't handle this". So then you go and channel you're rage into some bullshit explanation about how he's fucked up but you're just so together because you understand manners which is all the world is about right?
The truth is an intelligent person understands that actually manners don't really mean anything. They are a way of getting along with people... but what if you don't actually CARE whether people like you or not. In fact maybe you'd rather people who just blindly follow rules DON'T like you, because they're too stupid to be friends with anyway.


I never said that being overwhelmingly ego-centric and acting like an immature 10 year old kid is a bad thing, but this is how things are.
There is a vast difference between taking your distance with the "right-thinking moral", and rejecting any kind of moral laws that your ego doesn't like. One is a proof of intelligence, the other is pathological.
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
January 10 2010 12:35 GMT
#222
On January 10 2010 21:30 TeWy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 21:13 Klive5ive wrote:
Some of these comments are just hilarious. You're actually gonna psycho-analyze the guy now? How pathetically insecure do you have to be to get butthurt over a few unsympathetic comments?

I'm gonna analyze you now. You're whole life you do stuff just because you're told to. You don't think for yourself you just follow because you're too scared to stand out of be unique. Being a sheep makes you feel security and without that you're lost. Then some guy on the internet comes along and start saying stuff that you're not used to.... "OMG this guy doesn't use manners like I'm used to; I can't handle this". So then you go and channel you're rage into some bullshit explanation about how he's fucked up but you're just so together because you understand manners which is all the world is about right?
The truth is an intelligent person understands that actually manners don't really mean anything. They are a way of getting along with people... but what if you don't actually CARE whether people like you or not. In fact maybe you'd rather people who just blindly follow rules DON'T like you, because they're too stupid to be friends with anyway.


I never said that being overwhelmingly ego-centric and acting like an immature 10 year old kid is a bad thing, but this is how things are.
There is a vast difference between taking your distance with the "right-thinking moral", and rejecting any kind of moral laws. One is a proof of intelligence, the other is pathological.

You just listed a pretty normal guy as having a severe medical condition... that's proof of your lack of intelligence as far as I'm concerned.
A quick google shows me that narcissist perverse suffer from paranoid delusions....
THINK before you post.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
January 10 2010 12:36 GMT
#223
Haha "spoilerfree VODs" First thing I noticed was that game 5 was 6 B big.. after game 3 I'll know who wins
TeWy
Profile Joined December 2009
France714 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 12:39:31
January 10 2010 12:38 GMT
#224
On January 10 2010 21:35 Klive5ive wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 21:30 TeWy wrote:
On January 10 2010 21:13 Klive5ive wrote:
Some of these comments are just hilarious. You're actually gonna psycho-analyze the guy now? How pathetically insecure do you have to be to get butthurt over a few unsympathetic comments?

I'm gonna analyze you now. You're whole life you do stuff just because you're told to. You don't think for yourself you just follow because you're too scared to stand out of be unique. Being a sheep makes you feel security and without that you're lost. Then some guy on the internet comes along and start saying stuff that you're not used to.... "OMG this guy doesn't use manners like I'm used to; I can't handle this". So then you go and channel you're rage into some bullshit explanation about how he's fucked up but you're just so together because you understand manners which is all the world is about right?
The truth is an intelligent person understands that actually manners don't really mean anything. They are a way of getting along with people... but what if you don't actually CARE whether people like you or not. In fact maybe you'd rather people who just blindly follow rules DON'T like you, because they're too stupid to be friends with anyway.


I never said that being overwhelmingly ego-centric and acting like an immature 10 year old kid is a bad thing, but this is how things are.
There is a vast difference between taking your distance with the "right-thinking moral", and rejecting any kind of moral laws. One is a proof of intelligence, the other is pathological.

You just listed a pretty normal guy as having a severe medical condition... that's proof of your lack of intelligence as far as I'm concerned.
A quick google shows me that narcissist perverse suffer from paranoid delusions....
THINK before you post.


O sorry, i wasn't aware that he was a "normal guy".
Since your premisses contradict my conclusion, I guess I'm wrong...
Well I will think more and try my best to reach your intellectual level next time.
Saturnize
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2473 Posts
January 10 2010 12:39 GMT
#225
On January 10 2010 21:13 Klive5ive wrote:
Some of these comments are just hilarious. You're actually gonna psycho-analyze the guy now? How pathetically insecure do you have to be to get butthurt over a few unsympathetic comments?

I'm gonna analyze you now. You're whole life you do stuff just because you're told to. You don't think for yourself you just follow because you're too scared to stand out of be unique. Being a sheep makes you feel security and without that you're lost. Then some guy on the internet comes along and start saying stuff that you're not used to.... "OMG this guy doesn't use manners like I'm used to; I can't handle this". So then you go and channel you're rage into some bullshit explanation about how he's fucked up but you're just so together because you understand manners which is all the world is about right?
The truth is an intelligent person understands that actually manners don't really mean anything. They are a way of getting along with people... but what if you don't actually CARE whether people like you or not. In fact maybe you'd rather people who just blindly follow rules DON'T like you, because they're too stupid to be friends with anyway.


Your quote falls under that category. Way to spin it.
"Time to put the mustard on the hotdog. -_-"
Klive5ive
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom6056 Posts
January 10 2010 12:40 GMT
#226
On January 10 2010 21:38 TeWy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 21:35 Klive5ive wrote:
On January 10 2010 21:30 TeWy wrote:
On January 10 2010 21:13 Klive5ive wrote:
Some of these comments are just hilarious. You're actually gonna psycho-analyze the guy now? How pathetically insecure do you have to be to get butthurt over a few unsympathetic comments?

I'm gonna analyze you now. You're whole life you do stuff just because you're told to. You don't think for yourself you just follow because you're too scared to stand out of be unique. Being a sheep makes you feel security and without that you're lost. Then some guy on the internet comes along and start saying stuff that you're not used to.... "OMG this guy doesn't use manners like I'm used to; I can't handle this". So then you go and channel you're rage into some bullshit explanation about how he's fucked up but you're just so together because you understand manners which is all the world is about right?
The truth is an intelligent person understands that actually manners don't really mean anything. They are a way of getting along with people... but what if you don't actually CARE whether people like you or not. In fact maybe you'd rather people who just blindly follow rules DON'T like you, because they're too stupid to be friends with anyway.


I never said that being overwhelmingly ego-centric and acting like an immature 10 year old kid is a bad thing, but this is how things are.
There is a vast difference between taking your distance with the "right-thinking moral", and rejecting any kind of moral laws. One is a proof of intelligence, the other is pathological.

You just listed a pretty normal guy as having a severe medical condition... that's proof of your lack of intelligence as far as I'm concerned.
A quick google shows me that narcissist perverse suffer from paranoid delusions....
THINK before you post.


O sorry, i wasn't aware that he was a "normal guy".
Since your premisses contradict my conclusion, I guess I'm wrong...
Well I will think more and try my best to reach your intellectual level next time.

Good you do that.
Don't hate the player - Hate the game
Korean-MILF
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Norway65 Posts
January 10 2010 13:01 GMT
#227
On January 10 2010 21:10 johanes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 20:58 Korean-MILF wrote:
On January 10 2010 16:07 crate wrote:

Nice try from NonY, otherworldly storms in game 2, but IdrA just outclassed him.
.

It`s fair enough that he won, but outclassed? I think Nony outclassed Idra in the game at Andro, and the game on Tornado was just a random maynard away from Nony taking another game imo. If Nony practices more until next time, I think he will face Idra in the finals, and if he plays straight up like he did on Andro and Tornado, i have no doubt that he can win the entire thing.

Sorry, but you probably watched different series, even in second game Nony was massively behind, but then clutch storms saved him. Idras play is on another level.


Not when you think about the massive difference in activity. Yes, Idra is at another level than every foreigner, but when Nony comes back from inactivity and plays not nearly as many games as Idra does, and still takes a game, almost two. And as the commentators said in the game at Desti, the timing window Idra had to set up that tank\goli\turret contain was minimal...by all means, all creds to Idra, but 5-10 seconds there could easily have changed the outcome of that game. Nony is overall a much much better player than Idra, and Idra doesn`t have the talent that is required to be "that good" at BW, only mass games.
MistrZZZ momma is so fat even boxer cant micro her
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
January 10 2010 13:15 GMT
#228
On January 10 2010 21:01 TeWy wrote:
Idra obviously is a narcissist perverse.
He feels superior, omnipotent, omniscient, invincible, immune, above any kind of moral laws.

The reason why he doesn't type GG or show respect to his opponent after losing is that his ego doesn't permit him to consider his loses.
Sure he probably isn't enough fucked up to completly distort the reality and consider that they litteraly didn't happen, but he will always be firmly convinced that they were due to some kind of out of control imbalances/random factors/cheesy strats, that there was almost nothing in his power that he could have done. Just look at his post G5 match interview.
It's only after a win that he will try to act funny, and you will probably never hord a single self-mockery from his mouth, only condescending mockeries toward his opponent.

Of course he knows how to hide the worse parts of his pathological behaviour, but what we can hord/see of him is enough.

Jeeeeesus christ man......

CHILL.

OUT.
edahl
Profile Joined February 2008
Norway483 Posts
January 10 2010 13:35 GMT
#229
Good games! Well done ^^
Native
Profile Joined October 2007
Poland105 Posts
January 10 2010 13:45 GMT
#230
Ekhm, once more: when will be next stream?:>
TeWy
Profile Joined December 2009
France714 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 13:58:21
January 10 2010 13:53 GMT
#231
On January 10 2010 22:15 hifriend wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 21:01 TeWy wrote:
Idra obviously is a narcissist perverse.
He feels superior, omnipotent, omniscient, invincible, immune, above any kind of moral laws.

The reason why he doesn't type GG or show respect to his opponent after losing is that his ego doesn't permit him to consider his loses.
Sure he probably isn't enough fucked up to completly distort the reality and consider that they litteraly didn't happen, but he will always be firmly convinced that they were due to some kind of out of control imbalances/random factors/cheesy strats, that there was almost nothing in his power that he could have done. Just look at his post G5 match interview.
It's only after a win that he will try to act funny, and you will probably never hord a single self-mockery from his mouth, only condescending mockeries toward his opponent.

Of course he knows how to hide the worse parts of his pathological behaviour, but what we can hord/see of him is enough.

Jeeeeesus christ man......

CHILL.

OUT.


Ok English is not my mother tongue, I may sound too categorical and rigorous, but it doesn't matter, you got my point.
Idra's behaviour is pathological, and it is not anything new, it is something old and deep inside of him.
Take a loot at this, March 2008, if you don't consider this to be fucked-up then idk what to add.

ToT vs MEDIA 22 March 2008
After last week's 4-0 respectively 5-0 win against 3D (the 2on2 has been claimed since they did not contact us since 3 weeks for their postponed 2on2) we face Media today which will be for sure harder.



ToT vs Media
1on1:
ToT)XiaOzI( < NonY[Media] 0-2
ToT)GOsia( > IdrA[Media] 2-1
ToT)ClouD( > Redeemer[Media] 2-0

ToT)Arew( vs Ret[Media] 2-0
2on2:
ToT)Mondragon( ToT)XiaOzI( > Redeemer[Media] IdrA[Media] 2-0
Draw & Replays: here
4-1

Good luck to all.

The missing 1on1 is postponed.

To make this newspost a little bit more funnier we gathered only some quotes of IdrA, they are definitely worth a laugh.

IdrA at the beginning in 2nd game:
"must be nice to have an invincible unit"

Crymode on? Just try to use vessels or spider mines, I heard they are good

IdrA in 2nd game:
"Dont you hate when newbies win"

Comment if Rafa wouldn't feel bad ... hahahaha ...

IdrA after 2nd game, someone asking for result:
"2-0 technically but 1-1 since he made ultralisk one game"

Oh my god Rafa, how do you dare to make ultras? You must be a hacker ...

IdrA at the end of 3rd game:
"goddamn newbie"

Yeah, everyone is newbie when he beats you, I don't even want to know what you consider yourself then.

IdrA in channel after losing 1-2 to Rafa:
"gay little newbie just keep dropping and macroing off with no econ! Fucking stupid idiotic game"

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

Sorry IdrA, but today I had to do it, it's just too damn pathetic.

All in all it was a very mannered clanwar tho, just IdrA decided to go nuts once again. GGs

Source: http://www.tot-gaming.com/index.php?include=news_detail&id=74
ocoini
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
648 Posts
January 10 2010 13:57 GMT
#232
Well, I get bored of saying gg aswell..
These games were pretty entertaining, mainly because Nony and Idra have been "our" bisu and flash for the last year
Street Vendor Crack Down Princess-Cop!
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2227 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 14:02:53
January 10 2010 14:01 GMT
#233
On January 10 2010 22:53 TeWy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 22:15 hifriend wrote:
On January 10 2010 21:01 TeWy wrote:
Idra obviously is a narcissist perverse.
He feels superior, omnipotent, omniscient, invincible, immune, above any kind of moral laws.

The reason why he doesn't type GG or show respect to his opponent after losing is that his ego doesn't permit him to consider his loses.
Sure he probably isn't enough fucked up to completly distort the reality and consider that they litteraly didn't happen, but he will always be firmly convinced that they were due to some kind of out of control imbalances/random factors/cheesy strats, that there was almost nothing in his power that he could have done. Just look at his post G5 match interview.
It's only after a win that he will try to act funny, and you will probably never hord a single self-mockery from his mouth, only condescending mockeries toward his opponent.

Of course he knows how to hide the worse parts of his pathological behaviour, but what we can hord/see of him is enough.

Jeeeeesus christ man......

CHILL.

OUT.


Ok English is not my mother tongue, I may sound too categorical and rigorous, but it doesn't matter, you got my point.
Idra's behaviour is pathological, and it is not anything new, it is something old and deep inside of him.
Take a loot at this, March 2008, if you don't consider this to be fucked-up then idk what to add.

Show nested quote +
ToT vs MEDIA 22 March 2008
After last week's 4-0 respectively 5-0 win against 3D (the 2on2 has been claimed since they did not contact us since 3 weeks for their postponed 2on2) we face Media today which will be for sure harder.



ToT vs Media
1on1:
ToT)XiaOzI( < NonY[Media] 0-2
ToT)GOsia( > IdrA[Media] 2-1
ToT)ClouD( > Redeemer[Media] 2-0

ToT)Arew( vs Ret[Media] 2-0
2on2:
ToT)Mondragon( ToT)XiaOzI( > Redeemer[Media] IdrA[Media] 2-0
Draw & Replays: here
4-1

Good luck to all.

The missing 1on1 is postponed.

To make this newspost a little bit more funnier we gathered only some quotes of IdrA, they are definitely worth a laugh.

IdrA at the beginning in 2nd game:
"must be nice to have an invincible unit"

Crymode on? Just try to use vessels or spider mines, I heard they are good

IdrA in 2nd game:
"Dont you hate when newbies win"

Comment if Rafa wouldn't feel bad ... hahahaha ...

IdrA after 2nd game, someone asking for result:
"2-0 technically but 1-1 since he made ultralisk one game"

Oh my god Rafa, how do you dare to make ultras? You must be a hacker ...

IdrA at the end of 3rd game:
"goddamn newbie"

Yeah, everyone is newbie when he beats you, I don't even want to know what you consider yourself then.

IdrA in channel after losing 1-2 to Rafa:
"gay little newbie just keep dropping and macroing off with no econ! Fucking stupid idiotic game"

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

Sorry IdrA, but today I had to do it, it's just too damn pathetic.

All in all it was a very mannered clanwar tho, just IdrA decided to go nuts once again. GGs

Source: http://www.tot-gaming.com/index.php?include=news_detail&id=74


Now you bring up 2 years old things as evidence? Come on, thats pathetic. Just write that you hate idra, that is the whole idea of your posts anyway and it would be also acceptable and short.
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 10 2010 14:08 GMT
#234
On January 10 2010 22:53 TeWy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 22:15 hifriend wrote:
On January 10 2010 21:01 TeWy wrote:
Idra obviously is a narcissist perverse.
He feels superior, omnipotent, omniscient, invincible, immune, above any kind of moral laws.

The reason why he doesn't type GG or show respect to his opponent after losing is that his ego doesn't permit him to consider his loses.
Sure he probably isn't enough fucked up to completly distort the reality and consider that they litteraly didn't happen, but he will always be firmly convinced that they were due to some kind of out of control imbalances/random factors/cheesy strats, that there was almost nothing in his power that he could have done. Just look at his post G5 match interview.
It's only after a win that he will try to act funny, and you will probably never hord a single self-mockery from his mouth, only condescending mockeries toward his opponent.

Of course he knows how to hide the worse parts of his pathological behaviour, but what we can hord/see of him is enough.

+ Show Spoiler +
Jeeeeesus christ man......

CHILL.

OUT.


Ok English is not my mother tongue, I may sound too categorical and rigorous, but it doesn't matter, you got my point.
Idra's behaviour is pathological, and it is not anything new, it is something old and deep inside of him.
Take a loot at this, March 2008, if you don't consider this to be fucked-up then idk what to add.

Show nested quote +
ToT vs MEDIA 22 March 2008
After last week's 4-0 respectively 5-0 win against 3D (the 2on2 has been claimed since they did not contact us since 3 weeks for their postponed 2on2) we face Media today which will be for sure harder.



ToT vs Media
1on1:
ToT)XiaOzI( < NonY[Media] 0-2
ToT)GOsia( > IdrA[Media] 2-1
ToT)ClouD( > Redeemer[Media] 2-0

ToT)Arew( vs Ret[Media] 2-0
2on2:
ToT)Mondragon( ToT)XiaOzI( > Redeemer[Media] IdrA[Media] 2-0
Draw & Replays: here
4-1

Good luck to all.

The missing 1on1 is postponed.

To make this newspost a little bit more funnier we gathered only some quotes of IdrA, they are definitely worth a laugh.

IdrA at the beginning in 2nd game:
"must be nice to have an invincible unit"

Crymode on? Just try to use vessels or spider mines, I heard they are good

IdrA in 2nd game:
"Dont you hate when newbies win"

Comment if Rafa wouldn't feel bad ... hahahaha ...

IdrA after 2nd game, someone asking for result:
"2-0 technically but 1-1 since he made ultralisk one game"

Oh my god Rafa, how do you dare to make ultras? You must be a hacker ...

IdrA at the end of 3rd game:
"goddamn newbie"

Yeah, everyone is newbie when he beats you, I don't even want to know what you consider yourself then.

IdrA in channel after losing 1-2 to Rafa:
"gay little newbie just keep dropping and macroing off with no econ! Fucking stupid idiotic game"

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

Sorry IdrA, but today I had to do it, it's just too damn pathetic.

All in all it was a very mannered clanwar tho, just IdrA decided to go nuts once again. GGs

Source: http://www.tot-gaming.com/index.php?include=news_detail&id=74

Ahaha nice comments
I really think he says it for fun...As a terran I can relate to nerdraging after losing in certain circumstances. Seriously...like in Idra v Nony game 2...after getting stormed like that i woulda been hella pissed
iG.Zeep
Profile Joined May 2008
Mexico253 Posts
January 10 2010 14:09 GMT
#235
wow, TeWy is a fucking pro
gj
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
Korean-MILF
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Norway65 Posts
January 10 2010 14:54 GMT
#236
On January 10 2010 23:08 DoX.) wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 22:53 TeWy wrote:
On January 10 2010 22:15 hifriend wrote:
On January 10 2010 21:01 TeWy wrote:
Idra obviously is a narcissist perverse.
He feels superior, omnipotent, omniscient, invincible, immune, above any kind of moral laws.

The reason why he doesn't type GG or show respect to his opponent after losing is that his ego doesn't permit him to consider his loses.
Sure he probably isn't enough fucked up to completly distort the reality and consider that they litteraly didn't happen, but he will always be firmly convinced that they were due to some kind of out of control imbalances/random factors/cheesy strats, that there was almost nothing in his power that he could have done. Just look at his post G5 match interview.
It's only after a win that he will try to act funny, and you will probably never hord a single self-mockery from his mouth, only condescending mockeries toward his opponent.

Of course he knows how to hide the worse parts of his pathological behaviour, but what we can hord/see of him is enough.

+ Show Spoiler +
Jeeeeesus christ man......

CHILL.

OUT.


Ok English is not my mother tongue, I may sound too categorical and rigorous, but it doesn't matter, you got my point.
Idra's behaviour is pathological, and it is not anything new, it is something old and deep inside of him.
Take a loot at this, March 2008, if you don't consider this to be fucked-up then idk what to add.

ToT vs MEDIA 22 March 2008
After last week's 4-0 respectively 5-0 win against 3D (the 2on2 has been claimed since they did not contact us since 3 weeks for their postponed 2on2) we face Media today which will be for sure harder.



ToT vs Media
1on1:
ToT)XiaOzI( < NonY[Media] 0-2
ToT)GOsia( > IdrA[Media] 2-1
ToT)ClouD( > Redeemer[Media] 2-0

ToT)Arew( vs Ret[Media] 2-0
2on2:
ToT)Mondragon( ToT)XiaOzI( > Redeemer[Media] IdrA[Media] 2-0
Draw & Replays: here
4-1

Good luck to all.

The missing 1on1 is postponed.

To make this newspost a little bit more funnier we gathered only some quotes of IdrA, they are definitely worth a laugh.

IdrA at the beginning in 2nd game:
"must be nice to have an invincible unit"

Crymode on? Just try to use vessels or spider mines, I heard they are good

IdrA in 2nd game:
"Dont you hate when newbies win"

Comment if Rafa wouldn't feel bad ... hahahaha ...

IdrA after 2nd game, someone asking for result:
"2-0 technically but 1-1 since he made ultralisk one game"

Oh my god Rafa, how do you dare to make ultras? You must be a hacker ...

IdrA at the end of 3rd game:
"goddamn newbie"

Yeah, everyone is newbie when he beats you, I don't even want to know what you consider yourself then.

IdrA in channel after losing 1-2 to Rafa:
"gay little newbie just keep dropping and macroing off with no econ! Fucking stupid idiotic game"

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

Sorry IdrA, but today I had to do it, it's just too damn pathetic.

All in all it was a very mannered clanwar tho, just IdrA decided to go nuts once again. GGs

Source: http://www.tot-gaming.com/index.php?include=news_detail&id=74

Ahaha nice comments
I really think he says it for fun...As a terran I can relate to nerdraging after losing in certain circumstances. Seriously...like in Idra v Nony game 2...after getting stormed like that i woulda been hella pissed


Why do you get pissed and goes nerdraging when the opponent is just that much better?
MistrZZZ momma is so fat even boxer cant micro her
Cheerio
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Ukraine3178 Posts
January 10 2010 15:15 GMT
#237
lol at people loling at Idra's "jokes"
kernl
Profile Joined October 2008
84 Posts
January 10 2010 15:16 GMT
#238
Idra probably is the strongest foreigner, so what's the big deal with the result. At least NonY showed that Idra is not invincible. I mean, everybody can put down a 13 Nexus, if that's what it takes to beat Idra, others will as well!

I actually don't like any of the two players, insulting people that beat you doesn't quite make me a fan. But as for Idra, I'd suggest to just don't care and let him enjoy his time right now, since he's presumably going to live the life of a socially unintegrated loser nerd as soon as people stop caring about bw, I mean just look at him.
desu
neustadt
Profile Joined November 2007
Germany37 Posts
January 10 2010 15:27 GMT
#239
On January 10 2010 21:36 Necosarius wrote:
Haha "spoilerfree VODs" First thing I noticed was that game 5 was 6 B big.. after game 3 I'll know who wins


Same here
NiGoL
Profile Joined September 2008
1868 Posts
January 10 2010 15:31 GMT
#240
why do people take BM over the internet SO damn serious?
who cares if idra BMS? he just wants to make drama, thats all that is to it.
i dont think idra is that serious when doing it after all?

so just live on guys.
http://www.twitter.com/NiGoLBW playing league on a competitive level
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
January 10 2010 15:32 GMT
#241
On January 10 2010 23:54 Korean-MILF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 23:08 DoX.) wrote:
On January 10 2010 22:53 TeWy wrote:
On January 10 2010 22:15 hifriend wrote:
On January 10 2010 21:01 TeWy wrote:
Idra obviously is a narcissist perverse.
He feels superior, omnipotent, omniscient, invincible, immune, above any kind of moral laws.

The reason why he doesn't type GG or show respect to his opponent after losing is that his ego doesn't permit him to consider his loses.
Sure he probably isn't enough fucked up to completly distort the reality and consider that they litteraly didn't happen, but he will always be firmly convinced that they were due to some kind of out of control imbalances/random factors/cheesy strats, that there was almost nothing in his power that he could have done. Just look at his post G5 match interview.
It's only after a win that he will try to act funny, and you will probably never hord a single self-mockery from his mouth, only condescending mockeries toward his opponent.

Of course he knows how to hide the worse parts of his pathological behaviour, but what we can hord/see of him is enough.

+ Show Spoiler +
Jeeeeesus christ man......

CHILL.

OUT.


Ok English is not my mother tongue, I may sound too categorical and rigorous, but it doesn't matter, you got my point.
Idra's behaviour is pathological, and it is not anything new, it is something old and deep inside of him.
Take a loot at this, March 2008, if you don't consider this to be fucked-up then idk what to add.

ToT vs MEDIA 22 March 2008
After last week's 4-0 respectively 5-0 win against 3D (the 2on2 has been claimed since they did not contact us since 3 weeks for their postponed 2on2) we face Media today which will be for sure harder.



ToT vs Media
1on1:
ToT)XiaOzI( < NonY[Media] 0-2
ToT)GOsia( > IdrA[Media] 2-1
ToT)ClouD( > Redeemer[Media] 2-0

ToT)Arew( vs Ret[Media] 2-0
2on2:
ToT)Mondragon( ToT)XiaOzI( > Redeemer[Media] IdrA[Media] 2-0
Draw & Replays: here
4-1

Good luck to all.

The missing 1on1 is postponed.

To make this newspost a little bit more funnier we gathered only some quotes of IdrA, they are definitely worth a laugh.

IdrA at the beginning in 2nd game:
"must be nice to have an invincible unit"

Crymode on? Just try to use vessels or spider mines, I heard they are good

IdrA in 2nd game:
"Dont you hate when newbies win"

Comment if Rafa wouldn't feel bad ... hahahaha ...

IdrA after 2nd game, someone asking for result:
"2-0 technically but 1-1 since he made ultralisk one game"

Oh my god Rafa, how do you dare to make ultras? You must be a hacker ...

IdrA at the end of 3rd game:
"goddamn newbie"

Yeah, everyone is newbie when he beats you, I don't even want to know what you consider yourself then.

IdrA in channel after losing 1-2 to Rafa:
"gay little newbie just keep dropping and macroing off with no econ! Fucking stupid idiotic game"

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

Sorry IdrA, but today I had to do it, it's just too damn pathetic.

All in all it was a very mannered clanwar tho, just IdrA decided to go nuts once again. GGs

Source: http://www.tot-gaming.com/index.php?include=news_detail&id=74

Ahaha nice comments
I really think he says it for fun...As a terran I can relate to nerdraging after losing in certain circumstances. Seriously...like in Idra v Nony game 2...after getting stormed like that i woulda been hella pissed


Why do you get pissed and goes nerdraging when the opponent is just that much better?

because its frustrating as hell when you lose a massive lead you have due to unfortunate mispositioning and units that you know are there yet cant hit. Sure props to the other guy and its probably terrans 'fault' but it still sucks
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
January 10 2010 15:35 GMT
#242
Never realized that everyone on TL.net possessed psychology PhDs.
motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
January 10 2010 15:50 GMT
#243
Dear TeWy: If you do not possess a strong command of the English language, as you yourself have admitted, why do you believe that you can interpret Idra's comments in any way remotely resembling precision?
ModeratorGood content always wins.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7858 Posts
January 10 2010 16:05 GMT
#244
Arrogant nerd is funny.

Or maybe is it a bit sad?
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Belano
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden657 Posts
January 10 2010 16:43 GMT
#245
GG and WP both players! I'm really happy to see NonY in such a good shape. Congratulations, IdrA, to a well deserved spot in the ro16!
Bring back 1 supply roaches.
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
January 10 2010 16:52 GMT
#246
hahahahaha

what is up with people trying to psychoanalyze idra based on an interview he gave after winning a starcraft match? seriously people, relax
I drop suckas like Plinko
Khyrandor
Profile Joined February 2009
Czech Republic158 Posts
January 10 2010 17:08 GMT
#247
[image loading]
fan of Chill, ToT)Mondragon(, ret, Jaedong, Day[9], DjWHEAT, White-Ra, Jinro, R1CH and TL and after TSL3 Ro32 Mondragon again... R.I.P. ToT
errol1001
Profile Joined April 2008
454 Posts
January 10 2010 17:15 GMT
#248
Unless Idra acts like he is walking on eggshells, this is going to happen every time. The interview is NOT BM. It has some joking and the use of some terms that can be misinterpreted. Saying that he expected Nony to use some abusive builds contains absolutely no judgment of Nony. If your grasp of English is limited, however, you might feel the need to post in this thread flaming Idra.
Titusmaster6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States5937 Posts
January 10 2010 17:28 GMT
#249
Congrats Idra that was legit haha.
Shorts down shorts up, BOOM, just like that.
meegrean
Profile Joined May 2008
Thailand7699 Posts
January 10 2010 17:36 GMT
#250
This was a fun series to watch and I enjoyed it. The storms in game 2 were... ouch.
Brood War loyalist
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
January 10 2010 17:54 GMT
#251
On December 17 2009 02:31 Idra_Interview:
1) Europeans are far too touchy. Life is much more enjoyable if you relax a bit.


I think instead of analyzing Idra's personality you analyze this quote and fucking take heed of it.
" i havent been playin sc2 but i woke up w/ a boner and i really had to pee... and my crisis management and micro was really something to behold. it inspired me to play some games today" -Liquid'Tyler
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-10 17:59:27
January 10 2010 17:56 GMT
#252
wow thats nice of his choach to do that. great games..
Entusman #51
zazen
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Brazil695 Posts
January 10 2010 18:44 GMT
#253
As I was reading the interview, I was shocked it took so long until he actually flamed someone. Glad he did flame Cloud after all.

Grats to IdrA.
"The quest for nexus has brought many men of genius to insanity... HUEHUEHUE!"
Odeyuken
Profile Joined June 2009
France94 Posts
January 10 2010 18:45 GMT
#254
I hope ret wins vs IdrA at some point without doing a single thing. I really do.
vol
Profile Joined October 2008
United States52 Posts
January 10 2010 18:57 GMT
#255
I am curious. What number of viewers did the stream peak at?
Gumbo
Profile Joined February 2009
Canada807 Posts
January 10 2010 18:57 GMT
#256
On January 10 2010 22:53 TeWy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 10 2010 22:15 hifriend wrote:
On January 10 2010 21:01 TeWy wrote:
Idra obviously is a narcissist perverse.
He feels superior, omnipotent, omniscient, invincible, immune, above any kind of moral laws.

The reason why he doesn't type GG or show respect to his opponent after losing is that his ego doesn't permit him to consider his loses.
Sure he probably isn't enough fucked up to completly distort the reality and consider that they litteraly didn't happen, but he will always be firmly convinced that they were due to some kind of out of control imbalances/random factors/cheesy strats, that there was almost nothing in his power that he could have done. Just look at his post G5 match interview.
It's only after a win that he will try to act funny, and you will probably never hord a single self-mockery from his mouth, only condescending mockeries toward his opponent.

Of course he knows how to hide the worse parts of his pathological behaviour, but what we can hord/see of him is enough.

Jeeeeesus christ man......

CHILL.

OUT.


Ok English is not my mother tongue, I may sound too categorical and rigorous, but it doesn't matter, you got my point.
Idra's behaviour is pathological, and it is not anything new, it is something old and deep inside of him.
Take a loot at this, March 2008, if you don't consider this to be fucked-up then idk what to add.

Show nested quote +
ToT vs MEDIA 22 March 2008
After last week's 4-0 respectively 5-0 win against 3D (the 2on2 has been claimed since they did not contact us since 3 weeks for their postponed 2on2) we face Media today which will be for sure harder.



ToT vs Media
1on1:
ToT)XiaOzI( < NonY[Media] 0-2
ToT)GOsia( > IdrA[Media] 2-1
ToT)ClouD( > Redeemer[Media] 2-0

ToT)Arew( vs Ret[Media] 2-0
2on2:
ToT)Mondragon( ToT)XiaOzI( > Redeemer[Media] IdrA[Media] 2-0
Draw & Replays: here
4-1

Good luck to all.

The missing 1on1 is postponed.

To make this newspost a little bit more funnier we gathered only some quotes of IdrA, they are definitely worth a laugh.

IdrA at the beginning in 2nd game:
"must be nice to have an invincible unit"

Crymode on? Just try to use vessels or spider mines, I heard they are good

IdrA in 2nd game:
"Dont you hate when newbies win"

Comment if Rafa wouldn't feel bad ... hahahaha ...

IdrA after 2nd game, someone asking for result:
"2-0 technically but 1-1 since he made ultralisk one game"

Oh my god Rafa, how do you dare to make ultras? You must be a hacker ...

IdrA at the end of 3rd game:
"goddamn newbie"

Yeah, everyone is newbie when he beats you, I don't even want to know what you consider yourself then.

IdrA in channel after losing 1-2 to Rafa:
"gay little newbie just keep dropping and macroing off with no econ! Fucking stupid idiotic game"

zzzzzzzzzzzzz

Sorry IdrA, but today I had to do it, it's just too damn pathetic.

All in all it was a very mannered clanwar tho, just IdrA decided to go nuts once again. GGs

Source: http://www.tot-gaming.com/index.php?include=news_detail&id=74


Get a fucking life, jesus. Idra is bm, just stfu and enjoy it.
Si vis pacem, para bellum.
hifriend
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
China7935 Posts
January 10 2010 19:22 GMT
#257
On January 11 2010 02:54 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2009 02:31 Idra_Interview:
1) Europeans are far too touchy. Life is much more enjoyable if you relax a bit.


I think instead of analyzing Idra's personality you analyze this quote and fucking take heed of it.

I had to go through the thread trying to disprove this statement. Turns out you're pretty much right. T_T
0mgVitaminE
Profile Joined February 2009
United States1278 Posts
January 10 2010 19:41 GMT
#258
Haha Chill "nony hwaiting!" before 4th game. xD
Really impressed by Nony throughout the series, if not for those SCV's Nony could have won, and I think he would have had a good chance in the 5th game.

Great series

Rematch gogogo
Hi there. I'm in a cave, how bout you?
Probe.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States877 Posts
January 10 2010 19:43 GMT
#259
Idra is the best foreigner ever. He is the only one in korea right now, he's hella gosu, he has some of the funniest comments ever, and he makes drama so that it's more entertaining to watch. How can you not love the guy?
meow
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2227 Posts
January 10 2010 20:50 GMT
#260
On January 11 2010 04:43 Probe. wrote:
Idra is the best foreigner ever. He is the only one in korea right now, he's hella gosu, he has some of the funniest comments ever, and he makes drama so that it's more entertaining to watch. How can you not love the guy?

Exactly, imagine foreign SC without idra, it would be well mannered and... hella boring
Tuke
Profile Joined January 2009
Finland1666 Posts
January 10 2010 22:26 GMT
#261
Nice to see CJ coach supporting idra so much
TeamLiquid CJ Entusman #42
Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
January 10 2010 22:43 GMT
#262
I'm having a hard time downloading the VODs. PLEASE SEED!!
XK ßubonic
Demand2k
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Norway875 Posts
January 10 2010 23:02 GMT
#263
I love Idra's bm, couldn't care less if he means it or if he's being sarcastic
It's legit as good comedy either way.
Zplut
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany90 Posts
January 10 2010 23:34 GMT
#264
On January 10 2010 07:45 Wr3k wrote:
Why the hell does Idra still have a bad attitude?

Because that`s the only thing that makes him really stand out the only interesting thing to observe in his games is the lower left corner of the screen

Also funny all those guys who like when people are "straight forward" you know there`s a different between beeing earnest and beeing a dick I want to see you guys after a iccup game when your opponent calls you "insert childish insult or arrogant phrase" you can tell me that you dont care or ignore that fine... but you can`t tell me that you really think "oh what a nice guy to tell me his opinion in such a straight forward manner"

Then again trashtalking with a friend while playing is funny as hell and I can 100% understand that but he`s doing it with everybody and I haven`t really seen trashtalk in those games it was just a no gg leave and whine

I think Idra should actually bring out a list of strategies and units that are allowed to play against him
would be as short as his temper I guess
Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18918 Posts
January 11 2010 01:50 GMT
#265
Oh man, Idra is such a good troll/progamer. Look at him make all of these people rage.
Good games, Good job idra, and good job casting. I was surprised Nony was able to hang with Idra as well as he did (especially looking at his schedule).
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FlameSworD
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
January 11 2010 02:40 GMT
#266
hes sayin he transfered scvs knowing nony would try to break when he moved for third yeah right.....
skyhighftw on iccup
Bub
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States3518 Posts
January 11 2010 03:03 GMT
#267
Got the VODs, watched them, and enjoyed every one of them. Good plays, especially the storms in Game2. Good win IdrA!

Ya, some people should lighten up.. the talking is just all in fun eh
XK ßubonic
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 03:53:42
January 11 2010 03:53 GMT
#268
oooohhh the bm

if idra knew he was probably going to lose on andromeda (and then did lose), why no gg?
:)
ForTheSwarm
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States556 Posts
January 11 2010 04:36 GMT
#269
On January 10 2010 06:19 pripple wrote:
loooool at idra's comments of game2, hahahahaha ;D
CJ looking like a really nice team afterall, can't hate them anymore... oh well there's still SKT1 left!


More SKT1 Hate! Ha ha
Whenever I see a dropship, my asshole tingles, because it knows whats coming... - TheAntZ
Mobius
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada1268 Posts
January 11 2010 05:44 GMT
#270
On January 11 2010 07:26 Tuke wrote:
Nice to see CJ coach supporting idra so much

yea, definately.
Entusman #51
.ten
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden11 Posts
January 11 2010 08:27 GMT
#271
I don't like that Idra doesn't GG, it's not that respectful. Even tho it's kind om entertaining with some drama in the starcraft scen. ^ ^
To me, Starcraft's just a game. ...like love.
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
January 11 2010 09:25 GMT
#272
On January 11 2010 12:53 synapse wrote:
oooohhh the bm

if idra knew he was probably going to lose on andromeda (and then did lose), why no gg?


a loss to units that kill everything doesn't count
I drop suckas like Plinko
Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
January 11 2010 10:26 GMT
#273
On January 10 2010 06:21 Klive5ive wrote:
Allowing him to skip a tournament is no big deal; but actually allocating him another player solely to help him practice... awesome.
I wonder if CJ get a portion of your prize money if he wins?

So I know I'm responding to a post from the first page, but I don't think anybody ever responded to this (sorry if someone did.)

Imo, IdrA winning tsl2 would look really really good for CJ, since if he does then a player that hasn't even made their A-team yet won one of the biggest foreigner tournaments ever. (definitely the biggest in some time)

I also have theories about this all tying into sc2, but I'll leave that for another day.
intotherainx
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States504 Posts
January 11 2010 13:15 GMT
#274
BEAT UR KIDS OR THEY WILL TURN OUT LIKE IDRA!!!!!!
Beaudereck
Profile Joined October 2008
Canada140 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-13 21:50:00
January 11 2010 17:13 GMT
#275
Units that kill everything ?
I didn't know protoss had tanks, mines, and irradiate.
Interesting.
Opopos
knf
Profile Joined May 2008
Sweden282 Posts
January 11 2010 17:49 GMT
#276
The Bad Boy of foreign Starcraft continues to stay in character, but since he's got skills to match no one can be disappointed. GG and well played by both, it was good to see that NonY could put up a good fight, units that kill everything or not
I was born to fast expand!
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-11 23:45:01
January 11 2010 23:42 GMT
#277
On January 10 2010 11:11 Ian Ian Ian wrote:
Learn to grow up and show some respect to your fellow competitors. Like really :/

grow up [...] Like really :/

Haha. The irony!

Anyway thumbs up to you guys who are angry at Idra. We've all been there... For me, it happened was when I was 12.

Units that kill everything ?
I didn't know protoss had tanks, mines, and irradicate.
Interesting.

Tanks only shoot ground units, mines only hit ground units with some exceptions, and irradiate* only affects bio units. Nice try.

*: correct spelling
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Mystlord *
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10264 Posts
January 12 2010 03:03 GMT
#278
Haha nice Idra. You always inject humor into SC, whether it's intentional or not...

CJ coach = win.

And was the SCV transfer really timed? I didn't see if he got a scan off on Nony's forces or something.
It is impossible to be a citizen if you don't make an effort to understand the most basic activities of your government. It is very difficult to thrive in an increasingly competitive world if you're a nation of doods.
IdrA
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States11541 Posts
January 12 2010 03:19 GMT
#279
On January 12 2010 12:03 Mystlord wrote:
Haha nice Idra. You always inject humor into SC, whether it's intentional or not...

CJ coach = win.

And was the SCV transfer really timed? I didn't see if he got a scan off on Nony's forces or something.

vultures ran into the units as they were coming in, the maynarded scvs were there but if you watch the mini map i brought extra scvs from my natural as well
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ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-01-12 23:08:31
January 12 2010 23:06 GMT
#280
I love to hate Idra, i'm sure if he talked irl like he does online he'd have been getting punched out his entire life.

Although i do think he's a good player and is probably just trolling 3/4 of the time he says bm shit.
U Gotta Skate.
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7858 Posts
January 13 2010 09:21 GMT
#281
On January 13 2010 08:06 ghermination wrote:
I love to hate Idra, i'm sure if he talked irl like he does online he'd have been getting punched out his entire life.

Although i do think he's a good player and is probably just trolling 3/4 of the time he says bm shit.

Everybody would. That's the problem with nerds: they are protected by their computer screen. So they never learn how to behave like human beings.

Point being, Idra doesn't have any humour. He is just sarcastic and arrogant. Humour is makinng fun of yourself. The day Idra makes one funny comment about himself, I'll start to respect him. Till then, I'll keep considering that he is just an idiot.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
LarJarsE
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1378 Posts
January 13 2010 21:09 GMT
#282
IdrA, no offense, but you are quite boring in interviews. Maybe if you were just a tad bit BM like you really are when you play people, it would increase the entertainment value
since 98'
Probe.
Profile Joined May 2009
United States877 Posts
January 14 2010 05:55 GMT
#283
On January 12 2010 12:19 IdrA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2010 12:03 Mystlord wrote:
Haha nice Idra. You always inject humor into SC, whether it's intentional or not...

CJ coach = win.

And was the SCV transfer really timed? I didn't see if he got a scan off on Nony's forces or something.

vultures ran into the units as they were coming in, the maynarded scvs were there but if you watch the mini map i brought extra scvs from my natural as well


I re watched the game and this is correct. It wasn't an accident that Idra had scvs there. Also high templar don't kill everything. They can't kill buildings.
meow
Kentucky
Profile Joined November 2009
United States63 Posts
January 14 2010 09:01 GMT
#284
Maynard didn't invent the transfer

TillerMaN invented it in WC2, Maynard copied him then took credit for it in SC

You Tillered your SCVs
Kentucky
Profile Joined November 2009
United States63 Posts
January 14 2010 09:09 GMT
#285
I've really turned into a big Idra fan

Not so much in 2008 but I totally root for him in every match now and really want to see him do well
Tom Phoenix
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
1114 Posts
January 14 2010 18:53 GMT
#286


Considering the popularity of this video, I thought it would only be appropriate to immortalise the moment from Game 2 as well. So here you go:

+ Show Spoiler +


On that note, I would like to thank the person on TL who`s bright idea was to release the VOD`s in ASF format. It made my life much more difficult.
You and your "5 years of competitive RTS experience" can take a hike. - FrozenArbiter
Demand2k
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Norway875 Posts
January 15 2010 17:26 GMT
#287
On January 13 2010 18:21 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2010 08:06 ghermination wrote:
I love to hate Idra, i'm sure if he talked irl like he does online he'd have been getting punched out his entire life.

Although i do think he's a good player and is probably just trolling 3/4 of the time he says bm shit.

Everybody would. That's the problem with nerds: they are protected by their computer screen. So they never learn how to behave like human beings.

Point being, Idra doesn't have any humour. He is just sarcastic and arrogant. Humour is makinng fun of yourself. The day Idra makes one funny comment about himself, I'll start to respect him. Till then, I'll keep considering that he is just an idiot.


Who are you to define humour?
LF9
Profile Joined November 2009
United States537 Posts
January 15 2010 22:55 GMT
#288
Who cares how good his humor is? He's a professional SC player, not a professional comedian. And until that stops being true, I will judge him by the ability he shows in the game and little else. That should be true for the rest of you, as well, unless you know him on a personal level in the way that someone like Artosis might.
adamisuber
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada35 Posts
January 16 2010 05:25 GMT
#289
Who cares how good his humor is? He's a professional SC player, not a professional comedian. And until that stops being true, I will judge him by the ability he shows in the game and little else. That should be true for the rest of you, as well, unless you know him on a personal level in the way that someone like Artosis might.

Idra= epic troll

Honestly the amount of people he seems to infuriate with sheer words makes all his posts worth reading.

On a side note, Nony you are a bad ass moffug, and I'm rooting for you to go far.
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