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[TSL] White-Ra, Cloud, G5 Interviews - Page 3

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Niggurath
Profile Joined December 2008
Chile103 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-27 16:15:35
December 27 2009 16:15 GMT
#41
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icyF
Profile Joined June 2008
Finland305 Posts
December 27 2009 16:19 GMT
#42
On December 27 2009 23:06 bugsybins wrote:
This White-ra guy is like an old man sitting atop a mountain and staring at stuff, chuckling and thinking "Oh, if only if they knew...".

Haha! Exactly my thoughts!

Really nice content once again!
Pyrthas
Profile Joined March 2007
United States3196 Posts
December 27 2009 16:59 GMT
#43
It's been said before, but still: It's frustrating that Ret, Cloud, and G5 are in the same group.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
December 27 2009 17:07 GMT
#44
On December 27 2009 23:06 bugsybins wrote:
This White-ra guy is like an old man sitting atop a mountain and staring at stuff, chuckling and thinking "Oh, if only if they knew...".


That (P)(ua)White-Ra interview was amazing.
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
DeViOuS
Profile Joined December 2009
United States22 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-12-27 17:14:46
December 27 2009 17:13 GMT
#45
G5 to look past FlaF? I mean I know you have no idea who he is, but you should know to NEVER look past anyone in a Tournament.
Team [Siege] / Less QQ, more pew pew.
oberon
Profile Joined May 2009
United States1320 Posts
December 27 2009 17:29 GMT
#46
"Either way I think IdrA will win this tournament with 90% certainty."

Argh. Stats-man ANGRY!

I think people greatly underestimate the role of chance in tournaments like this (same deal as the OSL/MSL/whatever). If someone is really good at a specific matchup in Korea, they tend to have a 70%+ win-rate. Let's give Idra an 85% win-rate in all three matchups, and a 95% chance at making the RO16. To win the tournament, he'll need to qualify for the RO16, then win 5 consecutive matches: 0.95 * (0.85^5) = 0.422, or less than 43%.

Obviously, this isn't a slight on Idra -- the point is that even 16 players is a lot, and all of the people who make the RO16 are going to be good. To have a 90% chance of winning, even just starting from the RO16, a player would need over a 97% winrate against other RO16 players.

Having now wandered wildly off-topic -- these interviews are always awesome. Are we going to all the groups before group play starts?
sYz-Adrenaline
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States1850 Posts
December 27 2009 17:40 GMT
#47
My god 3 of my favorite toss's in 1 interview, Ty TL
Can you feel the rush?
sAfuRos
Profile Joined March 2009
United States743 Posts
December 27 2009 18:36 GMT
#48
On December 28 2009 02:29 oberon wrote:
"Either way I think IdrA will win this tournament with 90% certainty."

Argh. Stats-man ANGRY!

I think people greatly underestimate the role of chance in tournaments like this (same deal as the OSL/MSL/whatever). If someone is really good at a specific matchup in Korea, they tend to have a 70%+ win-rate. Let's give Idra an 85% win-rate in all three matchups, and a 95% chance at making the RO16. To win the tournament, he'll need to qualify for the RO16, then win 5 consecutive matches: 0.95 * (0.85^5) = 0.422, or less than 43%.

Obviously, this isn't a slight on Idra -- the point is that even 16 players is a lot, and all of the people who make the RO16 are going to be good. To have a 90% chance of winning, even just starting from the RO16, a player would need over a 97% winrate against other RO16 players.

Having now wandered wildly off-topic -- these interviews are always awesome. Are we going to all the groups before group play starts?



While this is statistically sound this doesn't really work for application to a tournament like this -.-
sAfuRos // twitch.tv/sAfuRos // contact for coaching
Re-Play-
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Dominican Republic825 Posts
December 27 2009 18:38 GMT
#49
nice interview
P1: Best rank? P2:1st time iccup, P1:really? P1 looks at the account of P2 WOW B+ last season ^^
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
December 27 2009 19:18 GMT
#50
On December 28 2009 03:36 sAfuRos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2009 02:29 oberon wrote:
"Either way I think IdrA will win this tournament with 90% certainty."

Argh. Stats-man ANGRY!

I think people greatly underestimate the role of chance in tournaments like this (same deal as the OSL/MSL/whatever). If someone is really good at a specific matchup in Korea, they tend to have a 70%+ win-rate. Let's give Idra an 85% win-rate in all three matchups, and a 95% chance at making the RO16. To win the tournament, he'll need to qualify for the RO16, then win 5 consecutive matches: 0.95 * (0.85^5) = 0.422, or less than 43%.

Obviously, this isn't a slight on Idra -- the point is that even 16 players is a lot, and all of the people who make the RO16 are going to be good. To have a 90% chance of winning, even just starting from the RO16, a player would need over a 97% winrate against other RO16 players.

Having now wandered wildly off-topic -- these interviews are always awesome. Are we going to all the groups before group play starts?



While this is statistically sound this doesn't really work for application to a tournament like this -.-


Oh? And why's that?
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
Welmu
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Finland3295 Posts
December 27 2009 19:19 GMT
#51
BTW, White-Ra new mantoss!? ^.^
Progamertwitter.com/welmu1 | twitch.com/Welmu1
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
December 27 2009 19:29 GMT
#52
On December 28 2009 04:19 Welmu wrote:
BTW, White-Ra new mantoss!? ^.^


No, not new mantoss

there will never be another
jaedong forever~
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
December 27 2009 19:35 GMT
#53
Looking forward for more interviews. Let's go Cloud!
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Belano
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Sweden657 Posts
December 27 2009 19:49 GMT
#54
White-Ra is made of WIN!
Bring back 1 supply roaches.
Belladona
Profile Joined July 2009
Chile127 Posts
December 27 2009 19:53 GMT
#55
<3 Alex
ex ToT, ESC, mouz
Xxio
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada5565 Posts
December 27 2009 20:13 GMT
#56
yay more interviews!
I had no idea White-Ra was still this good, awesome
KTY
Soulforged
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Latvia935 Posts
December 27 2009 20:33 GMT
#57
On December 28 2009 04:29 onihunter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 28 2009 04:19 Welmu wrote:
BTW, White-Ra new mantoss!? ^.^


No, not new mantoss

there will never be another


Stork's the new mantoss.
White-Ra's the badass toss, and been so for a long time.
thopol
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Japan4560 Posts
December 27 2009 20:50 GMT
#58
Thanks for more excellent interviews. I appreciate hearing from the big name players, but it'd be nice to get to know some of the dark horse players as well.
imbecile
Profile Joined October 2009
563 Posts
December 27 2009 21:04 GMT
#59
White-Ra is doing it right. Not dodging Koreans, beating Boxer and staying home to actively advance the gaming scene there.
s[O]rry
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
Canada398 Posts
December 27 2009 21:05 GMT
#60
White-ra is so cool.
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