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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
October 19 2009 16:03 GMT
#41
On October 20 2009 01:02 Matoo- wrote:
How can anyone take both this article and the riplexa one 100% seriously and get so worked up over it? Some of the comments here and in the other thread are just sick, lol.

Ding ding ding.
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intrigue
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Washington, D.C9934 Posts
October 19 2009 16:03 GMT
#42
samsung? SAMSUNG?!?!??! oh dear lord you kids are going to be sad. ohhhhh is there a more loathsome team
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baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-19 16:08:00
October 19 2009 16:07 GMT
#43
I think you're misunderstanding what's a "bandwagon" fan. The term has more to do with changing your rooting interest based on how a team plays, rather than being a fan of a good team. It's fine to be a T1 fan and not be considered a bandwagoner. But you're a bandwagon fan if you rooted for Oz in 07, Khan in 08, and T1 in 09. That's just pointless.

Anyway, kind of disagree that winning matters the most when it comes to player fandom. I started liking Stork back when he was slumping last year. And I continued to watch FBH fail time after time in TvP. I started rooting for estro when Artosis began to talk about them on SCForAll. And rooted for them continuously despite them usually losing their matches.
Meh
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4734 Posts
October 19 2009 16:07 GMT
#44
That article is basically exactly my opinion on that matter. I Really liked it (kinda self-explanatory).
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Whiplash
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States2929 Posts
October 19 2009 16:08 GMT
#45
I became a Bisu fan when I first started watching sc and I saw him own Savior on blitz-X and I didn't even realize it was some big game
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Japakazol
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States102 Posts
October 19 2009 16:08 GMT
#46
On October 20 2009 01:02 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2009 00:58 Japakazol wrote:
On October 20 2009 00:55 Hot_Bid wrote:
On October 20 2009 00:54 Japakazol wrote:
On October 20 2009 00:50 Hot_Bid wrote:
On October 20 2009 00:46 Japakazol wrote:
Great article, and a much needed deathblow to the maudlin nonsense that riptide vomits up on a regular basis.

I think riptide was mostly right in his article, except for the part about bandwagoning being bad. His articles are great and the JD-Effort PL preview was the best intro I've ever read. I don't know what you mean by my article being a "deathblow" to anything, and I don't appreciate you insulting a fellow writer that I respect.

It's great you liked my article but please stfu.


Now, a vent. Dear fanboys comparing Jaedong/Bisu/Flash mechanics to those of The Emperor, The Dreamer and The Maestro - stop it. Nothing screams I'M A TOOL WITH ABSOLUTELY NO GRASP OF PROGAMING than a post that even begins to compare players of two eras, especially in terms of mechanics. Judging any of the old pros based on how they play now (or how other people play now) is like comparing the mars rover to Apollo 11. BUT BUT BUT THE MARS ROVER IS THE MOST ADVANCED...

Yeah, nobody cares, noob.


Seems like the first part of your article--"no it wasnt better in the old days, etc."-- is a direct rebuttal to this excerpt (which I'm guessing riptide wrote but it could have been plexa I suppose).

Yes, and disagreeing civilly with another writer (who I am friends with and I obviously respect) is the same as dealing a "deathblow" and calling his writing "vomit" right? Don't use my article as an excuse to post your ignorant and hateful opinions. There are ways to disagree without flaming like an idiot.


Hahaha easy now. A "deathblow" is simply a way of saying that I think your arguments knock his down definitively. And I didn't allege that you called his writing vomit; that's all me. And stop acting like I just committed a hate crime by criticizing bad writing. It's gonna be okay. It's an article about starcraft.

Ah yes, it's "just about starcraft" yet you are somehow worked up enough about it to call writers tools, call writing "vomit" and "nonsense." Because that sort of language and discussion is "taking it easy" and treating it lightly because its an article about StarCraft. Take your own advice.


You're right, hot_bid. I forgot that one day, my grandchildren's grandchildren will gather around and hear stories about us. We, who lived in the Age of Boxer, Emperor of Terran. They will speak of us in hushed tones, we proud few who wrote articles about those shining figures of destiny who spent 10-12 hours a day playing starcraft. History will remember them, and will remember us for our part in their glory. I am sorry that I did not use proper tones of respect and passion when describing these events.
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dekuschrub
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2069 Posts
October 19 2009 16:10 GMT
#47
hahahah amazing readddd

bandwagon4life

FLASH KILL EVERYONE
eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
October 19 2009 16:10 GMT
#48
Good read, I'm gonna take it as more humorous than serious though, assuming that is what you were aiming for.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
October 19 2009 16:10 GMT
#49
I love ad hominem spewing idiots.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
October 19 2009 16:11 GMT
#50
On October 20 2009 01:08 Japakazol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2009 01:02 Hot_Bid wrote:
On October 20 2009 00:58 Japakazol wrote:
On October 20 2009 00:55 Hot_Bid wrote:
On October 20 2009 00:54 Japakazol wrote:
On October 20 2009 00:50 Hot_Bid wrote:
On October 20 2009 00:46 Japakazol wrote:
Great article, and a much needed deathblow to the maudlin nonsense that riptide vomits up on a regular basis.

I think riptide was mostly right in his article, except for the part about bandwagoning being bad. His articles are great and the JD-Effort PL preview was the best intro I've ever read. I don't know what you mean by my article being a "deathblow" to anything, and I don't appreciate you insulting a fellow writer that I respect.

It's great you liked my article but please stfu.


Now, a vent. Dear fanboys comparing Jaedong/Bisu/Flash mechanics to those of The Emperor, The Dreamer and The Maestro - stop it. Nothing screams I'M A TOOL WITH ABSOLUTELY NO GRASP OF PROGAMING than a post that even begins to compare players of two eras, especially in terms of mechanics. Judging any of the old pros based on how they play now (or how other people play now) is like comparing the mars rover to Apollo 11. BUT BUT BUT THE MARS ROVER IS THE MOST ADVANCED...

Yeah, nobody cares, noob.


Seems like the first part of your article--"no it wasnt better in the old days, etc."-- is a direct rebuttal to this excerpt (which I'm guessing riptide wrote but it could have been plexa I suppose).

Yes, and disagreeing civilly with another writer (who I am friends with and I obviously respect) is the same as dealing a "deathblow" and calling his writing "vomit" right? Don't use my article as an excuse to post your ignorant and hateful opinions. There are ways to disagree without flaming like an idiot.


Hahaha easy now. A "deathblow" is simply a way of saying that I think your arguments knock his down definitively. And I didn't allege that you called his writing vomit; that's all me. And stop acting like I just committed a hate crime by criticizing bad writing. It's gonna be okay. It's an article about starcraft.

Ah yes, it's "just about starcraft" yet you are somehow worked up enough about it to call writers tools, call writing "vomit" and "nonsense." Because that sort of language and discussion is "taking it easy" and treating it lightly because its an article about StarCraft. Take your own advice.


You're right, hot_bid. I forgot that one day, my grandchildren's grandchildren will gather around and hear stories about us. We, who lived in the Age of Boxer, Emperor of Terran. They will speak of us in hushed tones, we proud few who wrote articles about those shining figures of destiny who spent 10-12 hours a day playing starcraft. History will remember them, and will remember us for our part in their glory. I am sorry that I did not use proper tones of respect and passion when describing these events.

It's okay, I forgive you, I know that Samsung fans in general have trouble seeing reality for how it is.
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
October 19 2009 16:14 GMT
#51
On October 20 2009 01:10 eMbrace wrote:
Good read, I'm gonna take it as more humorous than serious though, assuming that is what you were aiming for.

Thanks.

I guess now that you agree with parts of an article, it magically becomes not "petty," it suddenly "deserves" to be on the front page, and people shouldn't "just ignore it."
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
Japakazol
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States102 Posts
October 19 2009 16:14 GMT
#52
On October 20 2009 01:11 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2009 01:08 Japakazol wrote:
On October 20 2009 01:02 Hot_Bid wrote:
On October 20 2009 00:58 Japakazol wrote:
On October 20 2009 00:55 Hot_Bid wrote:
On October 20 2009 00:54 Japakazol wrote:
On October 20 2009 00:50 Hot_Bid wrote:
On October 20 2009 00:46 Japakazol wrote:
Great article, and a much needed deathblow to the maudlin nonsense that riptide vomits up on a regular basis.

I think riptide was mostly right in his article, except for the part about bandwagoning being bad. His articles are great and the JD-Effort PL preview was the best intro I've ever read. I don't know what you mean by my article being a "deathblow" to anything, and I don't appreciate you insulting a fellow writer that I respect.

It's great you liked my article but please stfu.


Now, a vent. Dear fanboys comparing Jaedong/Bisu/Flash mechanics to those of The Emperor, The Dreamer and The Maestro - stop it. Nothing screams I'M A TOOL WITH ABSOLUTELY NO GRASP OF PROGAMING than a post that even begins to compare players of two eras, especially in terms of mechanics. Judging any of the old pros based on how they play now (or how other people play now) is like comparing the mars rover to Apollo 11. BUT BUT BUT THE MARS ROVER IS THE MOST ADVANCED...

Yeah, nobody cares, noob.


Seems like the first part of your article--"no it wasnt better in the old days, etc."-- is a direct rebuttal to this excerpt (which I'm guessing riptide wrote but it could have been plexa I suppose).

Yes, and disagreeing civilly with another writer (who I am friends with and I obviously respect) is the same as dealing a "deathblow" and calling his writing "vomit" right? Don't use my article as an excuse to post your ignorant and hateful opinions. There are ways to disagree without flaming like an idiot.


Hahaha easy now. A "deathblow" is simply a way of saying that I think your arguments knock his down definitively. And I didn't allege that you called his writing vomit; that's all me. And stop acting like I just committed a hate crime by criticizing bad writing. It's gonna be okay. It's an article about starcraft.

Ah yes, it's "just about starcraft" yet you are somehow worked up enough about it to call writers tools, call writing "vomit" and "nonsense." Because that sort of language and discussion is "taking it easy" and treating it lightly because its an article about StarCraft. Take your own advice.


You're right, hot_bid. I forgot that one day, my grandchildren's grandchildren will gather around and hear stories about us. We, who lived in the Age of Boxer, Emperor of Terran. They will speak of us in hushed tones, we proud few who wrote articles about those shining figures of destiny who spent 10-12 hours a day playing starcraft. History will remember them, and will remember us for our part in their glory. I am sorry that I did not use proper tones of respect and passion when describing these events.

It's okay, I forgive you, I know that Samsung fans in general have trouble seeing reality for how it is.


Yeah. My life is, for the most part, seen through the lens of Samsung fanhood. Stork's crazy aggressive style of play entertained me when I watched vods, and I felt reality instantly melt away and become a swirling kaleidoscope of fantasy. My life changed forever the day I signed up at team liquid and clicked that fateful dropdown menu.
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r3z3nd3
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil522 Posts
October 19 2009 16:15 GMT
#53
Can't agree more with you. To live in the past isn't something healthy.
Born to fast expand
KiLL_ORdeR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States1518 Posts
October 19 2009 16:15 GMT
#54
When I went back to log in so i could post on this thread, i noticed the little CJ stickers p-shopped on the trucks. Nice little touch...

Okay, real post: Great article, I hate it when people hate "noobs" for liking newer players. I remember watching my first ever pro match, it was Mind vs. Effort on neo Medusa in GOM season 3, ro.32. I remember that Tasteless was hilarious, SDM screwed up so many english words, and kept talking about hotdogs, and i remember looking at the way Effort controlled his army, and I was in awe.

Then i remember watching Flash play in the GOMTV SI, and I instantly fell in love with the way he played. I didn't know the outcomes of any of the games, so it felt like a fresh tournament to me, and there was just something about FlaSh that i though was incredible, and he motivated ( and still motivates me) to play Terran.

On October 20 2009 00:26 DrainX wrote:
No other player will ever take the place that Savior has in my heart. I won't ever let any new player get that much of my love. The pain when the stars finally fall is just too great =(


This is why the elitists hate noobs. They're jealous of us guys. We have our stars that are peaking. I mean hell, i don't even think we've seen the best of FlaSh, Jaedong, or Bisu, but those guys have to watch the shells of the former stars they once loved. It'd be like watching Joe Montana play for the Chiefs after starting for 14 years and winning 4 super bowls with the 49ers, or watching Wayne Gretzky play with the Rangers at the age of 40, when in his prime he scored 92 goals in an 82 game season. But now you have Tom Brady and Sidney Crosby, and the game is moving on.

I've heard people talk about stagnation in the Pro scene, because there are so many good player. I think it's the contrary. With so many good players, it forces the best players to have to play that much better, just to retain their average place in the rankings, resulting in all of us seeing better games. Because there are more players, there are more leagues, more upsets, and more surprises.

The SC proleague is at it's peak right now, and I'm personally trying to enjoy it the best I can, because although i am excited for SC2, nobody knows what it will do to the proleague, although I am optimistic.
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baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
October 19 2009 16:16 GMT
#55
On October 20 2009 01:03 intrigue wrote:
samsung? SAMSUNG?!?!??! oh dear lord you kids are going to be sad. ohhhhh is there a more loathsome team


Meh, I'd rather root for a team with players that actually have some personality, and act like the young adults they are. Rather than a team who make their players put on a poker face 24/7 and refusing to gg 10 minutes after the game's effectively over.
Meh
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17695 Posts
October 19 2009 16:23 GMT
#56
I understand bandwagoning and all this stuff... But CJ?! Come on!
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Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36390 Posts
October 19 2009 16:24 GMT
#57
On October 20 2009 01:23 Manit0u wrote:
I understand bandwagoning and all this stuff... But CJ?! Come on!
+ Show Spoiler +
You're always welcome on the T1 side, Hot_Bid

Yeah, who needs to learn to paint and paint pictures when you can just buy paintings. At least the overpriced, washed up version of them.
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mdb
Profile Blog Joined February 2003
Bulgaria4059 Posts
October 19 2009 16:26 GMT
#58
haha, I aint no progamer,I am D-, from my point of view its not that important if a player controls 1 group of marines and has 1000/2000 in the bank or controls 3 gruops of mutas and has 5/5 in the bank.
For me the real enjoyment from watching SC is when someone lifts his CC to avoid scouting, hallucinate his arbiters to do crazy recall or maelstrom bunch of guardians and devouiers and storm them to win the game.
now is much much more boring
Mooncat
Profile Joined October 2007
Germany1228 Posts
October 19 2009 16:27 GMT
#59
Nice write-up. Though I don't think it was a mistake to send sAviOr out in the ace match. Call me insane as you like, but I don't think the coach would have sent him out if he didn't have any sort of indicator this might be a good idea. We have no idea how he's doing in practice whatsoever.

The only thing sad about today's ace-match was the "not-GGing" part. But that's a part of CJ tradition so... fuck it ;>

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qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-19 16:32:24
October 19 2009 16:29 GMT
#60
Well put.
edit:
On October 20 2009 01:14 Hot_Bid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2009 01:10 eMbrace wrote:
Good read, I'm gonna take it as more humorous than serious though, assuming that is what you were aiming for.

Thanks.

I guess now that you agree with parts of an article, it magically becomes not "petty," it suddenly "deserves" to be on the front page, and people shouldn't "just ignore it."

That's not fair: of course the content of an article has an impact on what people think of it. It's not inconsistent to think of Plexa's elitist article as petty and your populist article as broad-minded or whatever.

How do you think articles should be judged?
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