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RinoZerg
Profile Joined May 2008
Australia130 Posts
September 14 2009 22:01 GMT
#241
KESPA is a complete failure of a sporting governing body. The broadcasters have control? That can never be good for the growth of the sport. They will always squeeze out the competition and have no reason to improve conditions for the players. Where are the players going to go?

The only chance I can see of this being fixed is Blizzard somehow buying/forcing the broadcasters out of KESPA and creating an independant governing body for starcraft or Blizzard creating a new sporting body with GOM.

Fingers crossed.
yarders
Profile Joined August 2009
United Kingdom194 Posts
September 14 2009 22:10 GMT
#242
On September 15 2009 05:49 Dametri wrote:
Lot of first-time posters and very low-count posters posting in this thread. The general consensus from them also seems to be "fuck, gomtv is what brought me into e-sports in the first place!"
It seems to me that gomtv did way more for the foreign community than just about anything else that's happened in the past... 9 years or so (as evidenced by the tens of thousands of views of season 2 videos).
I'd love to hear from these types of fans exactly how they feel about watching games between foreigners with english commentary. The future of SC lies with the foreign community (or so I feel), and gomtv has been the best thing for the foreign community since SC's inception (and still could be if there is enough interest in foreigners playing each other )


Yup I got into the pro-scene through Gom as well. Alot of hardcore long time posters seem to be saying there not that bothered because the Gom league wasn't that good/high quality anyway. Well that may be true but Gom has helped bring thousands of casual foreigners like myself into e-sports. I felt like it has set the scene for e-sports to explode globally with SC2. I imagined watching games not on the internet but on TV in the future. Now it seems like all the good work has been undone and this may never happen.

As regards to watching foreigners with english commentary, I believe Gom already had a foreigner tournament (the valor tournament). I see the valor tournament final has about 40 times fewer views than the intel classic. I would watch a foreigner tournament but it will be like watching 2nd division football. Somehow it just wont be the same knowing your not watching the best.
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-14 22:12:26
September 14 2009 22:12 GMT
#243
All i can say wasup with the hate Korea? I guess the plan was.

First we hit the kpop industry then we hit eSports with GOM Season 4 canceled.
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
September 14 2009 22:16 GMT
#244
hmm maybe KeSPA should be less interested in being super profitable.
if you give people what they want they'll generally flock to you and BAM $$$ rolls in.
KeSPA needs to appeal to the foreign community else they'll be locked to a korean market which is very tiny, they need to reach out to china/states/euro.
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-14 22:41:25
September 14 2009 22:25 GMT
#245
Until I see Tasteless or SDM saying this on camera I don't believe it, Someone probably just stolen SDM twitter account is posting random crap.

EDIT: could someone get into contact with tasteless and SDM and confirm this and get more details?
"Dark Pleasure" | | I survived the Locust war of May 3, 2014
koOl
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada254 Posts
September 14 2009 22:31 GMT
#246
urgh..how awful...gom season 1 was really the first tournament i watched fully
hihi
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
September 14 2009 22:51 GMT
#247
MYLOSTTEMPLE
is it true?
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
ImbaTosS
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom1704 Posts
September 14 2009 22:52 GMT
#248
I know several people who have been brought into the incredible sporting world of SC through GOM, largely because it offers the very rare opportunity for actually well informed English commentary. I don't know what gives anyone below B/B- rank the right to commentate on games played by the best (many commentators can sound very ignorant to well informed listeners), and SDM and especially Tasteless brought insightful and interesting, not to mention funny commentary to the game, making it accessible to n00bs. Gomtv was a brilliant vessel, even if it was below OSL/MSL/PL standards. The SC community will, I think, feel a definite blow in losing it, if these reports are true.
EleGant[AoV]
Felby
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway81 Posts
September 14 2009 22:56 GMT
#249
wow

speechless
Raydog
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States632 Posts
September 14 2009 22:57 GMT
#250
do sdm/tasteless do any other commentating? either as a team or solo..

cuz i enjoy watching starcraft, but I like it more when I hear english commentary rather than korean
Shew
lighter
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States152 Posts
September 14 2009 23:03 GMT
#251
T_T

This sucks. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK KESPA

aers *
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1210 Posts
September 14 2009 23:10 GMT
#252
GOM is part of the reason I'm here too (technically Blizzcon '07's tournament is the real reason). I and a group of people I know got into SC because of watching the tournament every Saturday night.

Really won't be the same without it :/
Badred
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada129 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-14 23:20:57
September 14 2009 23:18 GMT
#253
Is anyone actually sad because we're losing a quality tournament?

I have a feeling the real reason there's so much rage is because what we're actually losing is quality English commentary of korean pro Starcraft. If MBC or OGN hired Tastless, SDM, Artosis or whoever to do some English commentary for the next season of pro-league or star-league games, I think we'd all settle down pretty quickly. Amiright?

Hint, hint, hint. *nudges MBC/OGN*
QQplay
Profile Joined February 2009
United States229 Posts
September 14 2009 23:32 GMT
#254
/RAGE
/QQ
Stupid Kespa.
TheFallofTroy
Profile Joined May 2009
Canada780 Posts
September 14 2009 23:33 GMT
#255
On September 14 2009 17:47 p4NDemik wrote:
Honestly I won't miss the tournament as a whole very much - there's just so many games being played when PL/MSL/OSL all get running at full speed, and GOM was never something I would make time to watch. I will however miss the chances to see unique/old-timer gamers in proper televised matches and not just prelims.


This is exactly how I feel about this.

I mean, GOM was good, but it always came after MSL/OSL/PL in prestige and excitement. Hopefully something good comes from this and we can get more English commentary on MSL/OSL/PL.
^_^V
Gnaix
Profile Joined February 2009
United States438 Posts
September 14 2009 23:48 GMT
#256
kespa's the best!
one thing that sc2 has over bw is the fact that I can actually manage my hotkeys
l10f *
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3241 Posts
September 14 2009 23:49 GMT
#257
Why would teams suddenly not decide to participate? It's not like any situation changed from last season.
Writer
Gnaix
Profile Joined February 2009
United States438 Posts
September 14 2009 23:51 GMT
#258
Because kespa owns the teams, that's why.
one thing that sc2 has over bw is the fact that I can actually manage my hotkeys
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-14 23:52:30
September 14 2009 23:52 GMT
#259
On September 15 2009 08:33 Machine[eh] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 14 2009 17:47 p4NDemik wrote:
Honestly I won't miss the tournament as a whole very much - there's just so many games being played when PL/MSL/OSL all get running at full speed, and GOM was never something I would make time to watch. I will however miss the chances to see unique/old-timer gamers in proper televised matches and not just prelims.


This is exactly how I feel about this.

I mean, GOM was good, but it always came after MSL/OSL/PL in prestige and excitement. Hopefully something good comes from this and we can get more English commentary on MSL/OSL/PL.

I'd argue that there's already an overabundance of English commentary on non-GOM leagues. The demand GOM satisfied wasn't English commentary in general, but live, professional (in terms of mic quality, the casters' presence at GOM's studio), and conveniently available English commentary.

I am downplaying GOM's importance a bit, so I'd like to check myself by saying that, especially after reading all of the comments from new BW fans who were drawn by the tournament, I agree that it's been the most significant development in the foreign BW scene in the past few years. GOM bridged the gap between foreigner and Korean like no other tournament.
✌
G3nXsiS
Profile Joined July 2009
United States656 Posts
September 14 2009 23:52 GMT
#260
As usual......... FUCK KESPA thats all I can say.
Hope is the first step on the road to dissapointment
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